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Pats send fourth-round pick to Bucs, get seventh-rounder with Talib

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The trade of Aqib Talib from the Buccaneers to the Patriots has involved a fourth-round pick going from New England to Tampa Bay, and a seventh-round pick going from Tampa Bay to New England.

Shortly after word broke that Talib had been traded, the Buccaneers announced that they had sent both Talib and a seventh-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft to New England in exchange for the Patriots’ fourth-round pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

The Buccaneers now own eight selections in the 2013 draft: one each in rounds one, two, three, five, six and seven, and two in round four.

The Patriots, who in the past had earned a reputation for stockpiling future picks, are now down their fourth-round pick in the 2013 NFL draft for Talib, plus their fifth-round pick, which they sent to the Redskins for Albert Haynesworth, and their sixth-round pick, which they sent to the Bengals for Chad Ochocinco. The Patriots can only hope the Talib trade works out better than the Haynesworth and Ochocinco trades.

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59 Responses to “Pats send fourth-round pick to Bucs, get seventh-rounder with Talib”
  1. bucrightoff says: Nov 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    Kudos Mark Dominik, a 4th for a player you weren’t going to bring back anyways is outstanding.

  2. baloneyjohn says: Nov 1, 2012 5:08 PM

    Good riddance. Another druggie gone

  3. purplengold says: Nov 1, 2012 5:10 PM

    I like Bill’s cut-off hoodie.

  4. kingsoldo says: Nov 1, 2012 5:11 PM

    What a damn STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!! god i love this trade and if you think this a a bad trade then you clearly dont know the ability of this corner.

    TALIB-McCourty on the sides babyyy

  5. raylewis52 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:17 PM

    ARE YOU SERIOUS ! How do the pats keep getting stronger and stronger with all these steals and have 2 first round picks every dang draft !! Life is not fair.

  6. rjbell4 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:20 PM

    With the new rookie wage scale, Bill realized he doesn’t need to stock pile picks and get multiple later round picks. It’s now more worthwhile to trade up and pick earlier, which is what he did twice in the last draft.

  7. bucrightoff says: Nov 1, 2012 5:22 PM

    Or, Kingsoldo, we’re Bucs fans who’ve seen him play consistently and realized that he’s good, but not elite. Nowhere close. And when you factor in the knucklehead element, we stole a 4th from the Pats. Sorry yo.

  8. anotheryx says: Nov 1, 2012 5:22 PM

    Eh…. he is still suspended right?

  9. milkmandanimal says: Nov 1, 2012 5:22 PM

    If Tampa wasn’t going to re-sign him, then they got a good deal, but the guy’s been their best corner since about five minutes after he was drafted. CB has been a weak position for a while, and now it’s even weaker. Hope Freeman can keep putting the points up, because that defense is going to keep giving up a lot.

  10. ckualii says: Nov 1, 2012 5:25 PM

    kingsoldo says: Nov 1, 2012 5:11 PM

    What a damn STEAL!!!!!!!!!!!! god i love this trade and if you think this a a bad trade then you clearly dont know the ability of this corner.

    TALIB-McCourty on the sides babyyy

    ——————————————–

    McCourty being moved to Safety.

  11. ampats says: Nov 1, 2012 5:27 PM

    This is a smart move by the Bucs and what may be a great trade for New England. Talib was gone anyway and the Bucs were looking at a 5th round compensatory pick . The Patriots may be renting Talib but he immediately upgrades the secondary at corner and if things work out could be a long term aquisition.He has shown the ability to play CB at Pro Bowl levels

    Its a win for Tampa and a TBD for New England

  12. wjmoffatt says: Nov 1, 2012 5:27 PM

    Patriots and Bucs fans should thank god for Greg Schiano, otherwise these deal doesn’t get done. His relationship with Bill is the foundation here.
    Now this is a great trade for both franchises, Pats got a good CB, at least an upgrade for their secondary and yet his still 26, plus if it doesn’t look like it’ll work out they can let him walk in FA. Bucs, well we as fans have seen what we’ve done with fourth round picks in the Dominique era; Mike Williams, and used last year to trade around for Doug Martin and LaVonte David.

  13. livingsacrifice86 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:28 PM

    I’m a huge pats fan but if you’re excited about talib-mccourty on the outsides something is wrong. I actually think talib is pretty talented. Mccourty on the other hand has been a HUGE disappointment

  14. skoobyfl says: Nov 1, 2012 5:30 PM

    The company picnics may never be the same.

  15. Richard Dickson says: Nov 1, 2012 5:36 PM

    This sets up the Bucs to trade back into the first or second next year using that extra fourth-rounder.

  16. patsfiend says: Nov 1, 2012 5:37 PM

    rjbell4 says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:20 PM
    With the new rookie wage scale, Bill realized he doesn’t need to stock pile picks and get multiple later round picks. It’s now more worthwhile to trade up and pick earlier, which is what he did twice in the last draft.
    —–
    EXACTLY. Bill adapts to the new rules (you could say “exploits” the new rules) faster than anyone else, every time.

    So now we have our answer on Sterling Moore.

  17. realpro14 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:38 PM

    A Steal…!!!….patriots gave up beans for a player of talib caliber……this is direct competition to what Peyton has been doing in Denver….Tampa didnt want him anyway so they win too…but his ball skills are definitely New England-est….

  18. jeff2380 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:39 PM

    Kingsoldo calm down I am a life long bucs fan. And have watched this guy continually get burned every game. Just watch highlights of the bucs giants game this year. And see what Hakeem did to him I think he had a career day agains talib in man coverage. So don’t get to excited cause soon you will be cussing at the tv why did we trade for this bum. I am happy he is gone and even happier we got a 4th rd pick for him

  19. deathonwings410 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:40 PM

    Could be a huge signing if Talib doesnt commit a driveby before the playoffs start.

  20. itsmammoth says: Nov 1, 2012 5:40 PM

    “Hello, Tampa? This is Bill… mind if I screw you guys over really fast?”

    “Oh, no problem! Sure thing Bill!”

  21. werliaros says: Nov 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    Kingsoldo,

    We are well aware of Talib’s abilities. The ability to knock out a cabbie old enough to be his grandfather, throw his mother under the bus to save his a#s, getting into trouble multiple times a year, and , of course, when you really need it, that perfectly timed personal foul. Just wait until you hear his first interview. I would have given you a fourth rounder to take him.

  22. dd393 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:43 PM

    Was there a bail bondsman thrown in?

  23. gobuccs1280 says: Nov 1, 2012 5:55 PM

    Good luck Pats keeping him on the field. Hasn’t played a complete season since we got him. I know Talib has talent, but he is injury prone and makes lots of bad legal decisions.

  24. patsfanvt says: Nov 1, 2012 5:57 PM

    Whoa we’re giving up a lot more than I expected. I guess desperate times call for desperate measures.

  25. pftcensorssuck says: Nov 1, 2012 5:59 PM

    fourth round pick = bag of footballs

    Pats have nothing to lose on this trade

  26. tjigger says: Nov 1, 2012 6:06 PM

    anotheryx says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:22 PM
    Eh…. he is still suspended right?
    ——————————-

    He’s out till week 11..

  27. mcoomer146 says: Nov 1, 2012 6:11 PM

    This is odd considering the legal troubles Talib has had. BB doesn’t usually make decisions like this.

  28. spoilerfutbol says: Nov 1, 2012 6:13 PM

    And now Belichick trade his 2nd round for a 3rd and a 4th round. Then trade his 3rd for a 4th and 5th.
    Then trade his 4th and 3rd 2013 round for a new Hoodie

  29. tedmurph says: Nov 1, 2012 6:14 PM

    Fourth rounder is a lot, but Pats don’t have a 5th or 6th this yr and never would have gotten him thru waivers, so they didn’t have much choice. An upgrade(over Arrington and MCole) they needed to make. Now Talib is playing for a contract. If he performs, he may get one. If he doesn’t or misbehaves and gets cut, he’s lucky to get invited to training camp next yr. Low risk, high reward. Unless they get lucky, a 4th rnd draft pick isn’t gonna impact this team mush anyway.

  30. sschmiggles says: Nov 1, 2012 6:16 PM

    bucrightoff says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:22 PM
    Or, Kingsoldo, we’re Bucs fans who’ve seen him play consistently and realized that he’s good, but not elite. Nowhere close. And when you factor in the knucklehead element, we stole a 4th from the Pats. Sorry yo.
    _________________________

    You may not be aware of this, but “good” is a huge upgrade from everyone except McCourty on the Pats.

    I’ll risk a 4th round pick for a good corner any day. What do you have to lose?

    Ochocinco and Haynesworth didn’t work out, but I guess people forgot about knuckleheads like Randy Moss and Corey Dillon.

  31. meytonpanning says: Nov 1, 2012 6:17 PM

    Guys, it’s Bill Belicheck. If any coach can turn a trouble maker into a consistent performer, it’s him.

    This is coming from a Manning fan (in case the name isn’t obvious). I may not like Bill, but he’s certainly good at whipping trouble makers into shape.

  32. sschmiggles says: Nov 1, 2012 6:19 PM

    livingsacrifice86 says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:28 PM
    I’m a huge pats fan but if you’re excited about talib-mccourty on the outsides something is wrong. I actually think talib is pretty talented. Mccourty on the other hand has been a HUGE disappointment
    _______________________

    Only to the pink hats. He’s actually top 10 in the league in pass deflections this year. People are getting wrapped up in a few glaring mistakes he’s made, but in reality he’s been solid. Not elite, but much better than last year, especially in man coverage.

  33. chc4 says: Nov 1, 2012 6:21 PM

    People acting like Talib is a great player which he’s not. Very talented but has never lived up to his hype. That said he’s an upgrade for NE but that’s not saying much.

  34. bobhk says: Nov 1, 2012 6:24 PM

    pftcensorssuck says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:59 PM
    fourth round pick = bag of footballs

    Pats have nothing to lose on this trade
    ————–
    Hardly! Fourth round picks have produced many good players. If Talib bombs (quite likely) Belichick will wish he had that pick back.

  35. unchainedangel says: Nov 1, 2012 6:26 PM

    So this is the answer to solidifying the defense in time for the playoffs.

  36. lifelongfinfan says: Nov 1, 2012 6:30 PM

    High Risk, High Reward on this one. He is extremely talented, but can’t seem to stay out of trouble. On the other hand he could be a cancer in the locker room. I love the trade for the Pats though. More for next year than this year.

  37. 6ball says: Nov 1, 2012 6:32 PM

    .

    Are the Patriots better off with Talib or the fourth round pick?

    Are the Bucs better off with the additional pick or the player?

    I think this is win – win.

    .

  38. lifelongfinfan says: Nov 1, 2012 6:33 PM

    How did haynesworth work out? Bill couldn’t whip him into shape. Time will tell on this trade folks.

  39. Steeley McBeam says: Nov 1, 2012 6:39 PM

    No one wants to own up to that bust of a pick Ras-I Dowling?

  40. emaix80 says: Nov 1, 2012 6:49 PM

    Pats fans – Dont worry about the 4th Round Pick – Bucs would end up taking an undersized D Lineman, Linebacker, or D Back..

    Rich get richer… Only the Pats can pull of moves like this.. Some work (Dillon and Harrison) and some don’t (Haynesworth and Ocho Cinco).. In the end, the Patriots will always be successful with Belichick and Brady.. All they need is players to mold into their way of thinking.. The rest is history.. We are always Super Bowl contenders.. Not just playoff contenders..

  41. rjkilla says: Nov 1, 2012 6:59 PM

    he’ll be missing a whole season due to suspension once he gets in trouble again…which will happen

  42. tedmurph says: Nov 1, 2012 7:04 PM

    Steeley McBeam says:Nov 1, 2012 6:39 PM

    No one wants to own up to that bust of a pick Ras-I Dowling?

    ———————————————————-

    I hear he’s gonna work out with Limas Sweed this offseason.

  43. zackattack006 says: Nov 1, 2012 7:05 PM

    Great trade by Tamba Bay!!!

  44. bobhk says: Nov 1, 2012 7:08 PM

    lifelongfinfan says:
    Nov 1, 2012 6:30 PM
    High Risk, High Reward on this one. He is extremely talented, but can’t seem to stay out of trouble. On the other hand he could be a cancer in the locker room. I love the trade for the Pats though. More for next year than this year.

    ————
    He’s a free agent at the end of this season (unless Pats re-sign him).
    The grade card for this unknown for now.

  45. bratbeach says: Nov 1, 2012 7:11 PM

    Steeley McBeam says:
    Nov 1, 2012 6:39 PM
    No one wants to own up to that bust of a pick Ras-I Dowling?

    —-

    Huh? “Own up”? Pretty much everyone has been calling him a bust since his return to IR. There were also some people calling him a bust last year already.

  46. andylucksneck says: Nov 1, 2012 7:23 PM

    Its so funny how quickly pats fans jump on a bum’s bandwagon. What has Talib done besides violate substance abuse and get into legal trouble? Belli isn’t going to turn this dude around, and they gave up a high pick for him. Terrible deal for the pats.

  47. deflatedfootball says: Nov 1, 2012 7:24 PM

    Anyone posting on this story is an upgrade for the Pats at CB at this point. The fact that he is actually great talent can be significant if the dude just plays football and stays out of trouble.

    If he can help that awful secondary go on a deep playoff run then the draft pick and the potential to not re-sign him will be worth a fourth.

  48. grogansheroes says: Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM

    sschmiggles says:
    Nov 1, 2012 6:19 PM
    livingsacrifice86 says:
    Nov 1, 2012 5:28 PM
    I’m a huge pats fan but if you’re excited about talib-mccourty on the outsides something is wrong. I actually think talib is pretty talented. Mccourty on the other hand has been a HUGE disappointment
    _______________________

    Only to the pink hats. He’s actually top 10 in the league in pass deflections this year. People are getting wrapped up in a few glaring mistakes he’s made, but in reality he’s been solid. Not elite, but much better than last year, especially in man coverage.
    —————————————————–
    If McCourtey’s been so great, why has he been moved to safety?

  49. azarkhan says: Nov 1, 2012 7:37 PM

    The cornerbacks may be Talib and Alfonso Dennard. Dennard played all 63 snaps against the Rams. BTW, he was considered a risk in the draft, which is why the Pats got him in the 7th round.

  50. CKL says: Nov 1, 2012 7:39 PM

    Not that I like this trade (I don’t, I hate bringing a knucklehead to a young defense especially) but the other thing to consider is that a 4th round pick probably doesn’t have as much of a chance to make the Pats team as he would to make the Bucs team. So it COULD be a win-win, but right now it’s a win for the Bucs for sure. We all know that much as BB likes/respects Schiano, he doesn’t listen to him (Winslow).

  51. scalfor3 says: Nov 1, 2012 7:40 PM

    Awesome for Tampa: they weren’t going to keep Talib anyway and manage to get something decent for him.

    Potentially awesome for New England: Even if he never became the shutdown corner he was billed as in the draft, Talib is a good player and a huge upgrade at New England’s biggest position of need. Unlike Ocho or Haynesworth, he is only 26 and in the last year of his rookie deal. If he plays well for the high profile Patriots, he will make himself a nice pile of money in free agency somewhere. If he doesn’t, he might be out of chances in the league. He has every reason to be a good soldier for a few months, which is all the Pats need for this trade to be worth it.

  52. robertocfg says: Nov 1, 2012 7:54 PM

    “grogansheroes says:
    Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM

    If McCourtey’s been so great, why has he been moved to safety?”

    Because Pat Chung and Steve Gregory have been injured, so the next in line are Tavon Wilson and Nate Ebner, both rookies. McCourty has not flashed like his rookie year with all those INT’s, but he’s done a solid job. Yes, he’s had some mistakes, but he’s been reliable. It has more to do with the fact that he has experience at safety from the end of last season.

  53. tbd3 says: Nov 1, 2012 8:57 PM

    grogansheroes says:
    Nov 1, 2012 7:30 PM

    If McCourtey’s been so great, why has he been moved to safety?

    ————————————

    Because Patrick Chung and Steve Gregory have both been injured, you buffoon.

  54. joebloww says: Nov 1, 2012 8:58 PM

    Unless Talib films opponents’ practices for Bill, he won’t be much help.

  55. 1historian says: Nov 1, 2012 9:07 PM

    Bill Belichick is the only guy who has the Balls and the Brains to do something like this. If it works it works, if it doesn’t it doesn’t.

    I know there’s a lot of you out there who aren’t too fond of him, but – get used to it – we Pats’ fans love him and you can bet he couldn’t care less about your opinion of him.

    (P.S. – neither could we)

  56. dolphins512 says: Nov 1, 2012 9:22 PM

    Probably a win-win in my view.

    Bucs dump a trouble maker who has been inconsistent and had his share of off the field problems and the Pats get some secondary help that they need.

  57. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 1, 2012 10:53 PM

    Assuming Talib is smart enough to learn the Pats’ defense this is a good trade for both teams.

    It usually seems to take about half a year for any new player to get comfortable in the system and really start understanding where and what they are supposed to be doing on any given play.

    So, by the playoffs he should be fitting in well and hopefully playing up to his hype instead of down to his off the field issues.

  58. falstaffsmind says: Nov 2, 2012 8:43 AM

    For his part, Talib announced that he looks forward to being repeatedly suspended from a perennial Superbowl contender.

  59. gisellichek says: Nov 2, 2012 10:23 AM

    Fingers are crossed… I am feeling like we are due for a win in these scap heap deals …

    Our secondary is a bunch of green nose kids … I don’t care what this guy has done off the field … Please let him be the real deal…

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