Tonight could be the end of the line for Norv

AP

The Chargers have lost three straight games.  The Chargers face on Thursday night the one-win Chiefs.

If the Chargers lose, coach Norv Turner could be done.

Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego believes that owner Dean Spanos will indeed pull the plug on the Norv Turner experiment, if the Chargers fall to 3-5 by losing to the 1-6 Chiefs.  Acee also believes that the job would then go to special-teams coordinator Rich Bissacia for the balance of the season.

And if Bissacia turns the team around, who knows?  He could secure the job beyond 2012 — and in turn save G.M. A.J. Smith’s.

If nothing else, it gives us a reason to watch tonight’s game.  Surely, it may be the only reason.  But it’s still a reason.

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90 responses to “Tonight could be the end of the line for Norv

  1. Norv and A.J. should get axed now. How A.J. held is job this long is amazing.

    How do you let talent like Brees, Sproles, and Jackson walk away and get nothing in return?

    Spanos screwed up by siding with A.J. over Schottenheimer. You don’t let a coach go that rebuilt that team into a 14-2 contender.

  2. What’s the point?

    So what if they beat the one win Chiefs?

    Why does beating a team barely worse then your own save your job?

    Sincerely,

    Disgruntled Chargers Fan

  3. Forgive me for not following the comings and goings of San Diego coaching personell, but isn’t this the same STC that headed up the horrendous Charger ST unit the past few years? And if so, why is he in line to become the interim head coach?

  4. Norv Turner has had the longest short leash of all-time. At this point I don’t think he’d know what to do if people liked him.

  5. More important…. If KC happens to go up 3 -0 early, that will be the first lead KC has had this year (with time still on the clock).

    If anyone could fall behind to the Chiefs, the Chargers can.

    Which makes me think… If Cassel holds on to the ball, and if Romo & Jason Garret did not speak different languages.

    You would really see Baltimore for what they are.

    Norv will survive tonight… It will be close, cuz our local SD peewee football has a qb with a stronger arm then Rivers.. Just sayin.

  6. i said this at the end of last season… so let’s wait and see… when aj is still there, firing norv is nothing but making norv a scapegoat for aj’s poor draft choices.

  7. while norv shouldnt even be a head coach right now a.j.smith should take the advice of that miami fan when he told gm ireland you should fire yourself

  8. It should be the end of the line for Rivers too. Over-rated, bad team mate, hot head, plus, the guy has the strangest throwing motion I have ever seen in any QB

  9. And it could be the end of the line for Romeo and Pioli.

    Oh right…the Chefs ownership is that smart.

    m3phitic is right with his comment:

    What’s the point?

    So what if they beat the one win Chiefs?

    Why does beating a team barely worse then your own save your job?

    Sincerely,

    Disgruntled Chargers Fan

  10. Hearing the name Norv Turner is more than enough to make most NFL fans laugh and Chargers fans cry.

  11. Norvell….just like any other turkey necked turkey, will have his head lopped off before the end of November….just sayin’……..

  12. As a fan of another team…

    GO CHARGERS!

    Anything to keep Norv Turner as San Diego’s head coach!

  13. It all comes down to them beating the CHIEFS? Sad… just sad. There are going to be a lot of empty seats at the Q through the rest of the year.

  14. We heard the Norv is gone last year, and he is still coaching. I would love to see him gone. He is a pretty good coordinator but a less than good head coach.

    We will see what happens.

  15. AJ saves his job by firing Norv? Shouldn’t he be fired first for getting rid of Marty and hiring Norv?

  16. Sad to see Norv fired before Smith. Norv shouldn’t be in this position because AJ should have never fired Schottenheimer. Marty wanted to keep Brees……
    Turner let go of Marty (HOF) Brees (HOF) Tomlinson (HOF) Michael Turner, Darren Sproles, Vincent Jackson….let them all walk. What a terrible GM. Worst in the NFL.

  17. Don’t care either way but if your special teams coord is the most qualified coach on your team to take over the HC job you have issues.

  18. i pray every night when i lay my head down that i wake up a fan of some other team…….i truly love and Hate the chargers. please fire them both win or loss! A win against the Chiefs should not be a job saver.

  19. It seems every year the NFL fires a bunch of head coaches which in turn means a lot of ass’t coaches are out of jobs. I think in most cases it is the General Managers who should get fired as they have the say (most of the time) on who make up the roster and I do not care how good you can coach if you do not have the players you have nothing.

  20. Wait, so if the Chargers lose and Turner is axed, AJ can still potentially keep his job? Does Spanos not realize that AJ is the biggest part of the problem?

    And to all those saying the Chargers should have kept Brees: He snapped his shoulder in half. Dr. James Andrews said in an ESPN segment that only 5% come back from that injury to play at a high level. Not even the Dolphins wanted Brees…they chose Culpepper over him, when Brees so desperately didn’t want to become a Saint.

  21. I think either 1 of these teams would take Marty Schottenheimer back over who they have now.

    Seriously, are there 2 worse head coaches than Turner and Crennel?

    As a Chiefs fan I can say I didnt appreciate Marty while he was in KC. Year in and year out we had good teams. Yes, we fell short and choked in the playoffs but with Crennel we’ll have a top 3 pick every year as long as he is here.

    Bring Back Marty.

  22. It’s such a catch 22 for us Bolt fans. We want our team to win but if they win and by a big chance they make it to the playoffs then Norv stays. If they lose then Norv is gone. We don’t want the team to lose but that’s the only way Norv is gone.

  23. Chargers always play well when Norvell’s job is on the line… hope this is one of those night! Or hope they get embarassed too… either or!

  24. @lightofkolob

    Schottenheimer never said he wanted to keep Brees. Brees was gone…it was a no-brainer. You have a severly injured QB, and a young up-and-comer who you (basically) drafted in the first round; who do you choose?

    Schottenheimer was fired because he tried to hire his brother as DC, and this, amongst other things, rubbed AJ the wrong way.

    And Michael Turner is most defnitely not a HOFer. And again, they couldn’t justify keeping Turner over the face of the franchise, when it wasn’t 100% clear that Tomlinson had lost it.

  25. I hope it is. Watching from MN has been very painful to do and watching the dismantling of a pretty good team has to be hair pulling for you charger fans. Going from a 14-2 season with super ego marty to this is bad. Dropping sproles, jackson, etc. what do the mgmt and norv think was gonna happen? Why not tie rivers hands behind his back and slap him repeatedly? It’s that ridiculous.

  26. Why is Spanos even messing around with hiring anyone other than Kevin Acee for the job? He’s obviously the most qualified person for the position. No wonder why coaches want to punch these guys in the mouth

  27. As a huge kc fan, I hope everyone gets fired including pioli and I have stuck up for him until this past week. Crennel is an absolute horrible coach. These players have no passion no fight. They are lazy hence having almost 30 turnovers this year. They are pathetic except Charles. That’s it. The defense is alright but when your on the field all game long its just a matter of time before you give up points. Dabol the offensive cord is horrid. Lets run run pass punt. Run run pass punt. Run run pass punt. Pass run run punt. No creativity. I’m absolutely sick of this team. An for the first time in my life I hope they lose so we can draft a qb. Get a new coach new gm. Maybe we could look forward to next year. Ehhh

  28. CHARGERS ARE THE MOST DUMMIS TEAM IN AMERICA HOW THE HELL CAN YOU LET GO OF Schottenheimer, are you freaking serious you bunch of idiots..all i can say is some one had a big eggo problem and it finally can end tonite lets go CHIEFS..norv good OC only period not coach what the hell he do with DA RAIDERS not a dam thing and then in SF….as a OC he did ok then here come the DUMB BOLTS hello idiots you got marty…by the way RAIDER fans like to thank for getting rid of marty lmfao well the whole AFC west did …lol

  29. Until they get rid of AJ Smith they have no chance. Im not saying Norv is the answer but Smith has ruined this franchise.

  30. I know the players won’t do it but man do I wish they would lay down tonight, if just to save me from the torture of hearing/reading headlines “NORV’S BACK FOR ANOTHER WEEK” or even worse
    “NORV BACK ANOTHER YEAR”

  31. rabidbillsfan says:Nov 1, 2012 1:37 PM

    Forgive me for not following the comings and goings of San Diego coaching personell, but isn’t this the same STC that headed up the horrendous Charger ST unit the past few years? And if so, why is he in line to become the interim head coach?

    —————-
    No he’s the one who actually turned it around, this is only his second year with the team.

  32. There should be a farwell ceramony for Norv, Pioli, Romeo and A.J. at tonight’s game on National TV. Ahhh.. It would be grand 🙂

  33. If Norv does get fired tonight (or at some other point before the season ends), he would have been fired mid-season by two different teams. That’s an achievement.

  34. Hey Chargers,

    Y’all can have Ron Rivera back if you’d like. We’ll even include the 37 Chargers players he brought with him at no charge, just pay separate processing & handling.

    Sincerely,

    Disgruntled Panthers Fan

  35. Given his records with the Raiders and Redskins, I’ve never been able to figure out why Norv was hired in the first place.

  36. “the Norv Turner experiment”

    Experiment? He’s been there forever and he’s not a first time head coach in the league. Have you been hiding in a cave?

  37. norv turner and aj smith to afc fans is like romo and jerry jones for us.. i want romo (or turner in this case) to do good enough to keep his starting job until hes to old bec you know he/they will never win the big dance. jerry jones just needs to step aside, be quiet and stop puttin pressure on his team..i was upset to see wade phillips go to i loved that he was still dallas HC… GO GMEN

  38. As a Charger fan we are rooting for a roller coaster ending with Norv. It would be a disaster to hand the reins over to Rich Bissacia – then have him get a couple of lucky wins and get the job full time

    We need Norv, AJ, Rich – everyone gone!!! And a redl coach and GM in there

  39. Norv & AJ are now one and the same. You keep both or get rid of both. One or the other cannot survive.

    Norv had some early success (with what was still Marty’s team with Tomlinson and a few others in their prime). But, the team has gotten progressively worse in terms of player talent, coaching, preparation, etc and they’re looking at three straight years out of the playoffs if they continue down the path they’re on.

    The NFL is the entertainment business and ownership is offering a product that the community is now apathetic about. Not good unless they’re moving the team and they just don’t care.

  40. Pack your bags and pick up the new address cards from the post office.
    You are moving on out. Maybe not tonight, but soon

  41. Norm is lame. Even when he had better teams he always got outcoached when the chips were down. Marty Shottenheimer was the same. Browns and Chargers coaching most memorable of Marty. If I wrote this blurb many years ago, you could just substitute his name in for Norm’s. Same type of guy.

  42. Romeo Crennel response to a possible Chargers loss tonight

    “I’m not quite sure about that either”!

  43. What a lowly state we have come to, both sets of fans are rooting for the other team to win, in hopes that it will be the catalyst that gets their own coach and GM fired. But alas…here we are.

  44. even if sd wins, norv might be fired the next day

    if you’re going to make an in-season change, the best time to do it is right after a thursday night game due to the long preperation time afterwards.

  45. At this point, any of the internal staff as interim would be just as ineffectual (or moreso) than Norv. I wanted him (and AJ) gone last year, but I would rather him finish the season and then get a front line coach.

  46. The ‘Norv getting fired’ stories have resulted in a ‘boy who cried wolf’ reaction from most of us. Not saying he deserves to keep his job – just stop warning me about it, and let me know when it actually happens. Thanks.

  47. Rich Bissacia is a GREAT coach.
    He had as much to do with leading the Bucs on their championship run as Gruden, Kiffen, and Rod Marinelli.
    He got out of Tampa because he could see the writing on Raheem’s wall.

  48. “if you’re going to make an in-season change, the best time to do it is right after a thursday night game due to the long preperation time afterwards.”

    No, at the bye week. It’s too easy but hey why not.

  49. who would want to coach in san diego after the fans bury their coaches likes its cat poop. norv isnt all the problem and shouldnt be on the hot seat. PR should be on the hot seat.. smith should be fired for his last comments, but ultimately coaches as long as they call the right plays, manage the clock, and the intangible things they are fine.. but when theres no leadership from the qb position that can transition to the def side of the ball its not gonna work.. case in point the cowboys, alot of talent no leadership, then the broncos not as much talent as sd and yet manning makes them produce and that creates productivity on both sides of the ball.. as a RAIDERS fan i hope they do sink but i get tired of complaining sd fans.. they didnt embrace martyball because after all its pointless to go 14-2 and not win a ring, but then what did marty ever win? yet all we hear is they shouldnt have let him go.. wah wah wah, next they let players go.. everyone does.. its football.. you want to try to run a organization like the steelers and pats, teams thats not known for bloated salaries.. win a dam ring first then you can do that..

  50. Is it bad that as a Chargers fan, I am wishing they lose tonight? I can’t stand AJ or Norv; I’m sad that Rivers has to deal with such a janky organization. Bad O-line, Ineffective D-line, weak secondary, Average WRs, no backup TE to Gates, bad drafts, oft-injured RB, release of good players like others have previously noted; how can Spanos stand such incompetence?

  51. Who cares who wins tonight? Both of these teams need to replace their GMs, replace their head coaches and blow up their rosters.

    I love the Chiefs but at this point, it’s like watching your dog suffer with cancer. Just put them to sleep, already.

    And I’m sure Chargers fans feel the same way about their team.

  52. r81ders says: Nov 1, 2012 2:52 PM

    CHARGERS ARE THE MOST DUMMIS TEAM IN AMERICA HOW THE HELL CAN YOU LET GO OF Schottenheimer, are you freaking serious you bunch of idiots..all i can say is some one had a big eggo problem and it finally can end tonite lets go CHIEFS..norv good OC only period not coach what the hell he do with DA RAIDERS not a dam thing and then in SF….as a OC he did ok then here come the DUMB BOLTS hello idiots you got marty…by the way RAIDER fans like to thank for getting rid of marty lmfao well the whole AFC west did …lol
    ————–
    “DUMMIS”? I feel compelled to apologize to the Internet for the above comments. Not as a Raider fan, either. Just as a person that successfully completed the fourth grade. Yikes.

  53. Whooppee, Nerf’s boys beat the crummy Chiefs last night. Now SD is sure to keep him around for the rest of the season and probably beyond. This has become a running gag in the NFL as every year we have to endure Nerf cranking out half-baked efforts from his Chargers teams. How can SD’s brass not get it when it’s so obvious?

  54. Lived in SD my whole life. Will never root for a San Diego team.. EVER! hope we lose the chargers to LA, the Padres are a farm team, and I pray we never get a basketball team because they’ll choke too but I digress. The stupid Chargers will wind up in the post season as a wild card (or worse the AFC Championship) and nothing will come of Norv’s pink slip dilemma. Not the die hard fans of the game, but the fair-weather fans that dont follow the team will spend the next year deficating from the mouth about how they almost went back to the Superbowl.. All in all, this is a total non story about a non-threating football team. Beg Gruden to come outta retirement so you can witness what a SB coach can do to a team with some potential.

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