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	<title>Comments on: Poll of players: Rex Ryan is NFL&#8217;s most overrated coach</title>
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		<title>By: doctorfootball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[doctorfootball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 07:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a fan of Belichick or Ryan, but c&#039;mon! This shows me how little the players know about coaching. Belichick has 3 Super Bowls on his resume. Regardless of &quot;Spygate&quot;, which was overblown. And Rex Ryan, has taken his team to two AFC Championship games in 3 seasons, and has never had a losing record. Maybe he&#039;s not a great coach, but overrated? I don&#039;t hear people talking about how great a coach Ryan is. So who&#039;s overrating him? Belichick&#039;s 3 rings are enough to say he&#039;s not overrated. The fact that he hasn&#039;t won another ring just shows how difficult it is to do so. Belichicks&#039; taken his team to 5 Super Bowls and won 3. That takes great coaching plus great players. Not just one or the other.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of Belichick or Ryan, but c&#8217;mon! This shows me how little the players know about coaching. Belichick has 3 Super Bowls on his resume. Regardless of &#8220;Spygate&#8221;, which was overblown. And Rex Ryan, has taken his team to two AFC Championship games in 3 seasons, and has never had a losing record. Maybe he&#8217;s not a great coach, but overrated? I don&#8217;t hear people talking about how great a coach Ryan is. So who&#8217;s overrating him? Belichick&#8217;s 3 rings are enough to say he&#8217;s not overrated. The fact that he hasn&#8217;t won another ring just shows how difficult it is to do so. Belichicks&#8217; taken his team to 5 Super Bowls and won 3. That takes great coaching plus great players. Not just one or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pisano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 05:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus he has the biggest mouth, and always puts his foot in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus he has the biggest mouth, and always puts his foot in it.</p>
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		<title>By: cubancigar10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cubancigar10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 02:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to a survey of 50 fans that never viewed or attended a football game in their life, it was concluded that Rex is a relatively unknown commodity n0t worthy of mention.

So there ya have it folks all wrapped up in one neat little bundle.  The survey participants had to be bribed into participating with jello shots of vodka and orange juice presented to them in relatively frequent intervals.

Mares eat oats,
and does eat oats, 
but little lambs eat ivy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to a survey of 50 fans that never viewed or attended a football game in their life, it was concluded that Rex is a relatively unknown commodity n0t worthy of mention.</p>
<p>So there ya have it folks all wrapped up in one neat little bundle.  The survey participants had to be bribed into participating with jello shots of vodka and orange juice presented to them in relatively frequent intervals.</p>
<p>Mares eat oats,<br />
and does eat oats,<br />
but little lambs eat ivy</p>
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		<title>By: mnomalley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mnomalley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 02:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[who else wants to see rex ryan vs andy reid sumo wrestle]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who else wants to see rex ryan vs andy reid sumo wrestle</p>
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		<title>By: jimthebuilder27</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 01:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rex Ryan, Norv Turner, and Pete Carroll yes.  Bill Belichick, no way!

How does Marvin Lewis not make this list??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex Ryan, Norv Turner, and Pete Carroll yes.  Bill Belichick, no way!</p>
<p>How does Marvin Lewis not make this list??</p>
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		<title>By: patriotinvasion</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[patriotinvasion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 01:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[georgeremus says:
Nov 6, 2012 4:09 PM
Belichick is overated because he hasn’t won anything since Spygate. It’s easy to win when you cheat.

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I guess if you consider the best record in the NFL, 2 AFC Championships, and 2 Eli final minute drives away from 2 more rings with a completely new team and significantly worse defense than he had from 2001-2004 not winning anything, than yea.

27 other teams haven&#039;t won a Super Bowl since &quot;spy-ESPN-created-story-gate&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>georgeremus says:<br />
Nov 6, 2012 4:09 PM<br />
Belichick is overated because he hasn’t won anything since Spygate. It’s easy to win when you cheat.</p>
<p>________</p>
<p>I guess if you consider the best record in the NFL, 2 AFC Championships, and 2 Eli final minute drives away from 2 more rings with a completely new team and significantly worse defense than he had from 2001-2004 not winning anything, than yea.</p>
<p>27 other teams haven&#8217;t won a Super Bowl since &#8220;spy-ESPN-created-story-gate&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dougydougdoug</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[blacknyellablacknyella:

You know, the whole topic of who has made the Pats dominant is really a fascinating study.

On the one hand, no one is every going to say that Brady is anything other than a first ballot HOF player. Arguably, based on stats alone, he&#039;s potentially one of the best to have ever played the game.

But on the other hand, when he went down for the entire season, the pats went a very convincing 11-5 with Cassel at the helm. Clearly, as evidenced by his play (or lack thereof) in KC, Cassel was most certainly NOT the reason the Pats did so well in Brady&#039;s absence. Much of that credit simply must be given to Bellycheat.

Conversely, with Shanahanahanan, there is little doubt that his two rings are a result of Elway&#039;s level of play. The guy could never win a playoff game again, without number 7. He&#039;s also proving to be just as big a flop in DC. Even with his new prized QB, the Skins are still a loathsome loser of a team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blacknyellablacknyella:</p>
<p>You know, the whole topic of who has made the Pats dominant is really a fascinating study.</p>
<p>On the one hand, no one is every going to say that Brady is anything other than a first ballot HOF player. Arguably, based on stats alone, he&#8217;s potentially one of the best to have ever played the game.</p>
<p>But on the other hand, when he went down for the entire season, the pats went a very convincing 11-5 with Cassel at the helm. Clearly, as evidenced by his play (or lack thereof) in KC, Cassel was most certainly NOT the reason the Pats did so well in Brady&#8217;s absence. Much of that credit simply must be given to Bellycheat.</p>
<p>Conversely, with Shanahanahanan, there is little doubt that his two rings are a result of Elway&#8217;s level of play. The guy could never win a playoff game again, without number 7. He&#8217;s also proving to be just as big a flop in DC. Even with his new prized QB, the Skins are still a loathsome loser of a team.</p>
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		<title>By: pftcensorssuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sackexchange says:Nov 6, 2012 6:09 PM 

randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing the same coach that got bounced out of clev. Not a master mind just lucky also three quarters of those guys you mentioned are A a product of playing with Brady or B would not start on a good D any where in t he league except maybe the Raiders.
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You do realize that Belichick took the Patriots to 11-5 without Brady in 2008, with that Hall of Famer they have in Kansas City now ...... right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sackexchange says:Nov 6, 2012 6:09 PM </p>
<p>randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing the same coach that got bounced out of clev. Not a master mind just lucky also three quarters of those guys you mentioned are A a product of playing with Brady or B would not start on a good D any where in t he league except maybe the Raiders.<br />
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You do realize that Belichick took the Patriots to 11-5 without Brady in 2008, with that Hall of Famer they have in Kansas City now &#8230;&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: sactogary</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sactogary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the most overrated poll of the season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the most overrated poll of the season.</p>
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		<title>By: cypressballs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cypressballs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whenever the term overrated comes up. The answer should always be the Cowboys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever the term overrated comes up. The answer should always be the Cowboys.</p>
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		<title>By: sschmiggles</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sschmiggles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Belichick has completely rebuilt the Pats since 2007, and they&#039;re still a top 5 franchise. 

The last few drafts have been excellent (Gronk, Hernandez, Spikes, Jones, Solder, Vollmer, you can put McCourty there, he&#039;s solid this year, etc) and our depth is good every year. 

Everyone also chooses to forget signings like Brian Waters, Andre Carter and Mark Anderson who he got for chump change last year, because of Ochocino and Fat Al. Brandon Lloyd at 4M /year this year.  

BenJarvus, Ryan Wendell (starting center), Dan Conolly (starting right guard), just to name a few, this guy digs up depth in places that no other GM does

Yeah, Belichick really sucks at team-building]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Belichick has completely rebuilt the Pats since 2007, and they&#8217;re still a top 5 franchise. </p>
<p>The last few drafts have been excellent (Gronk, Hernandez, Spikes, Jones, Solder, Vollmer, you can put McCourty there, he&#8217;s solid this year, etc) and our depth is good every year. </p>
<p>Everyone also chooses to forget signings like Brian Waters, Andre Carter and Mark Anderson who he got for chump change last year, because of Ochocino and Fat Al. Brandon Lloyd at 4M /year this year.  </p>
<p>BenJarvus, Ryan Wendell (starting center), Dan Conolly (starting right guard), just to name a few, this guy digs up depth in places that no other GM does</p>
<p>Yeah, Belichick really sucks at team-building</p>
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		<title>By: axespray</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[axespray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[man .... Coach McCarthy and Coach Lovie didn&#039;t get any votes for underrated/or overrated ?

c&#039;mon man... two pretty good coaches - give &#039;em some recognition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man &#8230;. Coach McCarthy and Coach Lovie didn&#8217;t get any votes for underrated/or overrated ?</p>
<p>c&#8217;mon man&#8230; two pretty good coaches &#8211; give &#8216;em some recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: ripster65</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ripster65]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure why Jim Harbaugh is in there.  20-6 since coming to the NFL and he totally turned the 49ers around instantly with pretty much the same personel from the year before he got there.  What&#039;s over rated?  The fact that he didn&#039;t go to and win the Super Bowl  his first year coaching a team that hadn&#039;t had a winning record in 8 years before he got there?  Please!  Those 3 people are idiots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why Jim Harbaugh is in there.  20-6 since coming to the NFL and he totally turned the 49ers around instantly with pretty much the same personel from the year before he got there.  What&#8217;s over rated?  The fact that he didn&#8217;t go to and win the Super Bowl  his first year coaching a team that hadn&#8217;t had a winning record in 8 years before he got there?  Please!  Those 3 people are idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: bospat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bospat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Duh!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duh!</p>
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		<title>By: radrntn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[radrntn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow thats  a shock, next think i will probably hear is something like jamarcus russell is a bust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow thats  a shock, next think i will probably hear is something like jamarcus russell is a bust.</p>
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		<title>By: azarkhan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[azarkhan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sackexchange: randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing 
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Without Starr, Lombardi is nothing, without Montana, Walsh is nothing, without your keyboard, you&#039;re nothing, blah, blah, blah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sackexchange: randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing<br />
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Without Starr, Lombardi is nothing, without Montana, Walsh is nothing, without your keyboard, you&#8217;re nothing, blah, blah, blah.</p>
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		<title>By: j0esixpack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j0esixpack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally, Rex can say he&#039;s better than Belichick at something!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, Rex can say he&#8217;s better than Belichick at something!</p>
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		<title>By: meditatingamigo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you kidding me?  Rex Ryan is only over rated in New York.  The media there doesn&#039;t get out much.  The rest of the country knows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me?  Rex Ryan is only over rated in New York.  The media there doesn&#8217;t get out much.  The rest of the country knows.</p>
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		<title>By: blacknyellablacknyella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blacknyellablacknyella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seeing mike tomlin&#039;s name pop up here made me realize that there are only a handful of coaches who could even be considered for this dubious title.  i mean, seriously, most coaches aren&#039;t even &#039;rated&#039; so how could they be &#039;overrated?  can you accuse any of the following coaches as being ovverated?:  pat shurmur, marvin lewis, mike munchak, chuck pagano/bruce arians, mike mularkey, gary kubiak, dennis allen, john fox, romeo crennel, chan gailey, joe philbin, ken whisenhunt, joe vitt, greg schiano, ron rivera, leslie frazier, lovie smith, jim schwartz, or jason garrett?  i mean, none of them have really ever accomplished anything so nobody will ever accuse any of them of being &quot;overrated.&quot;  none of them have ever done anything worthy of praise so nobody is going to play the &quot;overrated&quot; card on any of &#039;em.  

this poll is nonsense.  3 of the top 4 have appeared in multiple super bowls and each have won at least one.  and the other one, reid, was a mainstay in the conference title game and even coached in a super bowl.    

with that said, i think belichik and shanahan have had the luxury of having two of the greatest quarterbacks in nfl history turn them from mediocre coaches into &quot;geniuses.&quot;  we&#039;ve seen little from shanahan B.E. or A.E.  i expect more of the same if belichik sticks around A.T.B.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seeing mike tomlin&#8217;s name pop up here made me realize that there are only a handful of coaches who could even be considered for this dubious title.  i mean, seriously, most coaches aren&#8217;t even &#8216;rated&#8217; so how could they be &#8216;overrated?  can you accuse any of the following coaches as being ovverated?:  pat shurmur, marvin lewis, mike munchak, chuck pagano/bruce arians, mike mularkey, gary kubiak, dennis allen, john fox, romeo crennel, chan gailey, joe philbin, ken whisenhunt, joe vitt, greg schiano, ron rivera, leslie frazier, lovie smith, jim schwartz, or jason garrett?  i mean, none of them have really ever accomplished anything so nobody will ever accuse any of them of being &#8220;overrated.&#8221;  none of them have ever done anything worthy of praise so nobody is going to play the &#8220;overrated&#8221; card on any of &#8216;em.  </p>
<p>this poll is nonsense.  3 of the top 4 have appeared in multiple super bowls and each have won at least one.  and the other one, reid, was a mainstay in the conference title game and even coached in a super bowl.    </p>
<p>with that said, i think belichik and shanahan have had the luxury of having two of the greatest quarterbacks in nfl history turn them from mediocre coaches into &#8220;geniuses.&#8221;  we&#8217;ve seen little from shanahan B.E. or A.E.  i expect more of the same if belichik sticks around A.T.B.</p>
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		<title>By: protagoras111</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tbd3,
If you were trying to prove something with that list of recent draftees, you only reenforced my belief that the Pats have been at best average drafters.  Starting games does not mean that they were good draft picks. McCourty is a great example. 1st round pick who starts because they&#039;ve blown all their other DB picks. Most teams start all kinds of players that they drafted. You can&#039;t start a team full of free agent signings. If you want to see how a good set of drafts look, see the Texans drafts 2006 onwards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tbd3,<br />
If you were trying to prove something with that list of recent draftees, you only reenforced my belief that the Pats have been at best average drafters.  Starting games does not mean that they were good draft picks. McCourty is a great example. 1st round pick who starts because they&#8217;ve blown all their other DB picks. Most teams start all kinds of players that they drafted. You can&#8217;t start a team full of free agent signings. If you want to see how a good set of drafts look, see the Texans drafts 2006 onwards.</p>
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		<title>By: sackexchange</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing the same coach that got bounced out of clev.  Not a master mind just lucky also three quarters of those guys you mentioned are A a product of playing with Brady or B would not start on a good D any where in t he league except maybe the Raiders.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>randallflagg52 its so funny with out Brady he is nothing the same coach that got bounced out of clev.  Not a master mind just lucky also three quarters of those guys you mentioned are A a product of playing with Brady or B would not start on a good D any where in t he league except maybe the Raiders.</p>
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		<title>By: tbd3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 23:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[randallflagg52 says:
Nov 6, 2012 4:20 PM

To all you Pats fans, the reason Belichick was on the list is for a supposed defensive genius, his defense is a joke. Oh, and his personnel moves (draft picks, trades, free agent signings) have been pretty bad lately.
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The comment about his poor personnel moves is simply not true. The last four drafts have yielded; Sebastian Vollmer (late second), Julian Edelman (7th), Devin McCourty (1st), Rob Gronkowski (2nd), Brandon Spikes (2nd), Aaron Hernandez (4th), Zolan Mesko (5th), Nate Solder (1st), Stevan Ridley (3rd), Marcus Cannon (5th), Chandler Jones (1st), Donta Hightower (1st), Tavon Wilson (2nd), Alfonzo Dennard (7th).

It is admittedly early to include players like Wilson and Dennard, but all fourteen of those players have started games this year. That list doesn&#039;t even include solid contributors like Jermaine Cunningham, Brandon Deaderick, Myron Pryor, and so on.

Of course there have been some picks that didn&#039;t pan out, most noticeably in the secondary, but show me any team that hasn&#039;t had their share of bad picks - especially with the multitude that the Patriots have every year.

As for free agency and trades, you&#039;re clearly swayed by high profile additions that didn&#039;t work out like Haynesworth and Chad Johnson. How about Leigh Bodden, who greatly aided the defense when healthy? Rob Ninkovich, one of the better defensive players for the Pats the last two years? Kyle Love and Ryan Wendell, undrafted free agent acquisitions that are now solid contributors on each line? Brian Waters, who made the Pro Bowl?

Belichick&#039;s supposedly poor record of personnel moves is a myth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>randallflagg52 says:<br />
Nov 6, 2012 4:20 PM</p>
<p>To all you Pats fans, the reason Belichick was on the list is for a supposed defensive genius, his defense is a joke. Oh, and his personnel moves (draft picks, trades, free agent signings) have been pretty bad lately.<br />
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<p>The comment about his poor personnel moves is simply not true. The last four drafts have yielded; Sebastian Vollmer (late second), Julian Edelman (7th), Devin McCourty (1st), Rob Gronkowski (2nd), Brandon Spikes (2nd), Aaron Hernandez (4th), Zolan Mesko (5th), Nate Solder (1st), Stevan Ridley (3rd), Marcus Cannon (5th), Chandler Jones (1st), Donta Hightower (1st), Tavon Wilson (2nd), Alfonzo Dennard (7th).</p>
<p>It is admittedly early to include players like Wilson and Dennard, but all fourteen of those players have started games this year. That list doesn&#8217;t even include solid contributors like Jermaine Cunningham, Brandon Deaderick, Myron Pryor, and so on.</p>
<p>Of course there have been some picks that didn&#8217;t pan out, most noticeably in the secondary, but show me any team that hasn&#8217;t had their share of bad picks &#8211; especially with the multitude that the Patriots have every year.</p>
<p>As for free agency and trades, you&#8217;re clearly swayed by high profile additions that didn&#8217;t work out like Haynesworth and Chad Johnson. How about Leigh Bodden, who greatly aided the defense when healthy? Rob Ninkovich, one of the better defensive players for the Pats the last two years? Kyle Love and Ryan Wendell, undrafted free agent acquisitions that are now solid contributors on each line? Brian Waters, who made the Pro Bowl?</p>
<p>Belichick&#8217;s supposedly poor record of personnel moves is a myth.</p>
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		<title>By: clickablecontent</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can someone really be defined as &quot;overrated&quot; if he&#039;s universally viewed as such?  Wouldn&#039;t that just make him &quot;poorly rated&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone really be defined as &#8220;overrated&#8221; if he&#8217;s universally viewed as such?  Wouldn&#8217;t that just make him &#8220;poorly rated&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: protagoras111</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hooterdawg says:
Nov 6, 2012 3:40 PM
Since when does The Sporting News have any credibility? Few realize it even exists anymore. That being said, the poll would make more sense as a poll of peers: other coaches. Who seriously thinks that players have any idea what makes a good coach from their outside perspective.

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Oh, goodness. How is an NFL player a reasonable judge of who is and isn&#039;t a good NFL coach? I&#039;m not going to even bother responding to your inane question. You have no hope for intelligence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hooterdawg says:<br />
Nov 6, 2012 3:40 PM<br />
Since when does The Sporting News have any credibility? Few realize it even exists anymore. That being said, the poll would make more sense as a poll of peers: other coaches. Who seriously thinks that players have any idea what makes a good coach from their outside perspective.</p>
<p>+++</p>
<p>Oh, goodness. How is an NFL player a reasonable judge of who is and isn&#8217;t a good NFL coach? I&#8217;m not going to even bother responding to your inane question. You have no hope for intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: randallflagg52</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ampats says: 
Nov 6, 2012 4:57 PM 
raidernation210,

I challenge you to produce proof on this site documenting that taping of a walkthru actually occured.Not an accusation but proof since you cannot substaniate this BS claim.

The tuck rule is still an NFL rule today,live with reality.

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Yeah, no taping occured. Goodell just punished that pats for no reason. Go back to crying about the Red Sox, put down your Sam Adams, and take off the tin foil hat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ampats says:<br />
Nov 6, 2012 4:57 PM<br />
raidernation210,</p>
<p>I challenge you to produce proof on this site documenting that taping of a walkthru actually occured.Not an accusation but proof since you cannot substaniate this BS claim.</p>
<p>The tuck rule is still an NFL rule today,live with reality.</p>
<p>===================================</p>
<p>Yeah, no taping occured. Goodell just punished that pats for no reason. Go back to crying about the Red Sox, put down your Sam Adams, and take off the tin foil hat.</p>
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		<title>By: sactogary</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is the dumbest thing yet. Overrated means they are not as good as their ratings indicate. Overrated compared to WHAT? Since there are no official (or unofficial) ratings referenced, how can anyone be overrated?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the dumbest thing yet. Overrated means they are not as good as their ratings indicate. Overrated compared to WHAT? Since there are no official (or unofficial) ratings referenced, how can anyone be overrated?</p>
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		<title>By: rbilotta</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I always find these polls useless.  I&#039;ve seem them for other sports and the answers aren&#039;t really who is overrated, it usually who seems overexposed and maybe dislike from their media apperances.  I mean the quote “Some of the things he does in front of the cameras are way over the top&quot; - what he does in the camera has nothing to do if is a good coach or even an overrated coach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find these polls useless.  I&#8217;ve seem them for other sports and the answers aren&#8217;t really who is overrated, it usually who seems overexposed and maybe dislike from their media apperances.  I mean the quote “Some of the things he does in front of the cameras are way over the top&#8221; &#8211; what he does in the camera has nothing to do if is a good coach or even an overrated coach.</p>
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		<title>By: bamasleeper13</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I vote for Jerry Jones as the most overrated coach.. Oh wait! He isn&#039;t a coach!]]></description>
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		<title>By: ilovefoolsball</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t you have to be &quot;considered&quot; good to be overrated?]]></description>
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		<title>By: nm124</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 22:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pretty funny that Belichick was ranked number 2, even though he took a team to the Super Bowl last year. Any other coach who had done the same wouldn&#039;t be anywhere near this list.

Must be some pretty jealous NFL players out there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty funny that Belichick was ranked number 2, even though he took a team to the Super Bowl last year. Any other coach who had done the same wouldn&#8217;t be anywhere near this list.</p>
<p>Must be some pretty jealous NFL players out there&#8230;</p>
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