Comments on: Players missing games for babies being born raises plenty of questions http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 20 Jun 2013 03:05:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Samuel http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2109692 Sat, 10 Nov 2012 04:51:18 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2109692 So what are the designated days of the year NFL players are allowed to have sex to coincide with your theory?

]]> By: briarjohn http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2108275 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 05:01:24 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2108275 To be fair to Florio, as a former lawyer, he comes from a profession in which they regularly ask you to neglect your family. Regularly working 12-15, 16, 17, hell even 18 hour days/60 to 80 hour week is not uncommon for lawyers. Yes, technically firms are supposed to give you time for your personal life at some point, but that’s more in theory than practice. I’m not saying I agree with him, but I understand that he might be coming from a different context than the 9-5 crowd. It’s just a different culture that comes with a different perspective. For many in the legal profession, your a lawyer first and a father second.

]]> By: femalethatluvsthesteelers http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2107859 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:07:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2107859 In the delivery room, I found that my husband was in the way! He actually became ill. Go and play the game and bring home the check. It is more important to provide a fund for college and be there as the child grows up than simply to be a spectator. I won’t let him be there when I deliver our second.

]]> By: scd7 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106940 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:23:29 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106940 To those saying this is up to the owner or team, it may not be. Federal law provides that an employer must give time off for family events (like a birth or adoption) if that employee has worked for the employer for 12 months or more (and they do not have to be consecutive months). So unless the CBA specifically states otherwise (and I’m no lawyer but not sure it can conflict with federal rights laws) it’s Tilman’s choice, no one else.

Is it fair or right to the team? Well I’m mixed on that and it depends on the situation. Did they just randomly say “lets make a baby now” and give no thought to when the baby would be due and they just elected not to do any planning then I have to somewhat agree they should have at least tried to be planned. After all he is a critical part of the organization. And how many other people do try to plan birth dates around something? I know we did. However, if ‘it just happened’ or they’ve been trying for quite awhile and finally succeeded then hey, the family is more important and kudo’s to him for being there and this is a non-issue.

]]> By: tramonisland http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106783 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:11:50 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106783 Being a Packer fan I hope she goes into labor at 6pm and the baby comes out at 10pm on Sunday. The Texans need to win this game.

]]> By: tramonisland http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106742 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:54:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106742 Good thing Cromartie doesn’t agree with this, otherwise he’d be tied up every Sunday.

]]> By: oldirtyman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106717 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:42:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106717 When did everyone turn into such bleeding hearts, i saw my first child born and it was gross, play the game you are not going to miss anything special

]]> By: patriotenvy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106545 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 12:23:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106545 If it is in their contract fine. There are people with far less lucrative jobs that miss their childs birth all the time. All the time with the men in the U.S. Military. Tyla Rattray raced the Southwick National motocross the day his son was born in 2010 and won the race, but wasn’t at the post race press conference because he was at the airport. NFL players think they are so special.

]]> By: larryboodry http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106453 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 04:55:30 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106453 bluenoser23 says:

“Perhaps Tillman should have his baby momma schedule a c-section on any other day of the week besides game day. Problem solved.”

I know you meant no harm or disrespect, and I really hate political-correctness, but that phrase – baby momma – really irks me. They’re married, she is his WIFE…JMHO. :D

]]> By: femalethatluvsthesteelers http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106432 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 04:37:54 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106432 If you leave your wife to go watch a game, that’s almost unforgiveable. If you leave your wife to PLAY a game (that is their job) then that is different. I would rather have my husband play and bring home that 100k check than to watch the birth.

]]> By: bluenoser23 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106401 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:52:43 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106401 The Bears should give him a choice – play the game and get paid or we’ll grant you an authorized but unpaid leave of absence.

I don’t mind if he wants to be present for the birth of his child but to expect to be paid for missing work (especially when you only “work” 16 games a year) is a bit much.

Perhaps Tillman should have his baby momma schedule a c-section on any other day of the week besides game day. Problem solved. :-)

]]> By: peavey2 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106400 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:51:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106400 Good Grief. This isn’t a choice between family and employment. The father is there as a spectator. Make time to be there when your children grow up, that’s way more important than being there for an event that the child will not remember. I see it as the same as I don’t visit my parents graves. I made a point of spending time with them while they were alive.

]]> By: eyeh8goodell http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106353 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 03:06:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106353 I don’t care what my employer thinks or says, i’m there when my kid is born. Period. Pro football is entertainment. Anybody who says or thinks there’s something wrong with that needs to make an appointment with the local psychologist about your disgustingly misplaced priorities.

]]> By: femalethatluvsthesteelers http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106309 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 02:19:36 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106309 Being a female I agree that the players should play the game. It is easy to time the birth of a child other than a game day. Players only have to play 16 games and a few pre-games all year. They can either plan accordingly or schedule the birth accordingly.

The birth of a child is a great accomplishment. But these days there is no excuse of a birth on a game day unless it is extremely necessary.

Play on boys!

]]> By: jayperry18 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106260 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:38:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106260 Lets not forget that his planned absence is completely supported by his coach and his teammates.

There is a reason why players want to play for Lovey, he has his head screwed on right.

]]> By: blspears http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106107 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:42:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106107 If you leave your wife to have a baby and play a football game she will remember that for a very long time. Thats pretty awful. I commend those players that put their families first.

]]> By: mattyk72 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106085 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:22:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106085 Yeah they are well paid but so are a lot of people. In the end it’s just a game.

Family trumps all.

]]> By: homerx http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106078 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:17:42 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106078 Family first, enough said. This is what’s wrong with our country these days.

]]> By: thepeoplesjunk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106066 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:10:45 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106066 If it was me, there wouldn’t even be a consideration…. I would be there for the birth of my child. Most of us work our whole lives and your child is only going to be born once. I guess it comes down to your priorities. Does a job, even a high paying one, come before your family? My wife is 7 months pregnant now and I just had this conversation with my boss. If they are going to fire you for missing work for the birth of your child, then you weren’t long for that job anyway.

]]> By: oister78 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106059 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 23:08:12 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106059 What if a player’s child is being born during the Superbowl? I don’t think Tom Brady is going to see Gisele pop one out if this was the case. I could just hear Belichick now………..”Hoyer,,,,,, err,…… um…. Mallet,….ummm,,,, somebody get in there for Brady”.

]]> By: cowboysmb3dw28 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106037 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:51:51 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106037 Personal opinion*

]]> By: cowboysmb3dw28 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106034 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:50:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106034 These guys signed a contract to play in the NFL, and that contract includes playing on Sunday. I know it would suck to miss the birth of your child but not everyone gets the right to just take a day off work to be there. Guess what? I signed a contract too.. and guess what? I’m in the army now. If I’m deployed when my wife gives birth.. I’m not gonna be able to just come home to be there. Just because these guys are rich and famous doesn’t give them the right to just decide to take a day off of work like that I don’t think. Just my personal decision. But the NFL is a whole world of it’s own.

]]> By: tokyomanblastersmom http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106027 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:47:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106027 I have a mixed feeling on this one:

Bears: your commitment is to football; you should be on the field.

Every other NFL team: get your priorites straight — no need to play this game (against Chicago), go be with your family!

See? :-)

Seriously, though – family should always come first. The birth of your daughter is a once-in-a-lifetime event, while this is just a regular season
(albeit primetime) game.

It’s not even a Conference game! Peanut’s doing the absolute right thing here…

]]> By: mistrezzrachael http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106019 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:43:37 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106019 Great gig for guys like jets’ Cromartie….9 days off per year

]]> By: ghostofgilchrist http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2106001 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:32:41 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2106001 Cromartie could have missed 1/2 a season!

]]> By: theflyingtad http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2105994 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:25:28 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2105994 If Antonio Cromartie would have timed it right, he could have sat out the rest of the season.

]]> By: devrick http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2105985 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:19:17 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2105985 What if it’s a Travis Henry or Antonio Cromartie situation? Do they get to miss four or five games a season?

]]> By: gooch80 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2105979 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:17:19 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2105979 I had the second post on this thread and mentioned nachos and people “thumbs down”ed nachos……really?? who the hell doesn’t like nachos?

]]> By: luckyarmpit http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2105974 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:14:22 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2105974 I think the point is that professional athletes that get paid *A LOT* of money to perform 16 times a year on the world’s biggest stage should at least make a good faith effort to plan their… family planning… around the regular NFL season. Sure, accidents happen and sure, sometimes you can’t help it, especially if a couple has had problems getting pregnant. At least make an effort to plan around the regular season. But yes, by all means, if your child is born during the regular season you should absolutely be there.

]]> By: rufustfireflyjr http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/players-missing-games-for-babies-being-born-raises-plenty-of-questions/#comment-2105955 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 22:03:59 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1507441#comment-2105955 chocopoppy says:
Nov 7, 2012 4:08 PM
“I’d give the player an excused absence if he was married. If he is simply a baby daddy, no way — fine him a game check.

Despite the election yesterday, we need people actually taking on responsibility in this country.”

Yeah, let’s do everything we can to discourage unwed fathers from bonding with their offspring. That’ll make it more likely that they’ll take on the responsibility of supporting their kids. Oh, wait . . .

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