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Rex on overrated poll: I finally beat Belichick

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Those who weren’t suffering from poll fatigue on Tuesday afternoon might have seen one conducted among NFL players by the Sporting News that left Jets coach Rex Ryan as the most overrated head coach in football.

Ryan heard about it and spoke to reporters about it during Wednesday’s press conference. Ryan met the results with good humor and found a way to see the bright side.

“My first thought was I looked and saw who was second. Hey, I finally beat Belichick. I got him. I knew it would take time, but I finally got him,” Ryan said, via Manish Mehta of the New York Daily News. “Like it hasn’t been a tough enough year. Nah, I wasn’t offended by it. At the end of the year, we’ll see who’s overrated.”

Ryan also said that he thinks he’d score well in a poll asking which coaches players would most like to play for, placing himself and Mike Tomlin at the top of the list. The players who have come to New York to play with Ryan have only done well enough to go 3-5 in their first eight games of the season. That’s a pretty good recipe for winding up high on a list of overrated coaches.

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28 Responses to “Rex on overrated poll: I finally beat Belichick”
  1. ironhawk says: Nov 7, 2012 3:47 PM

    I still can’t believe Belichick was second. He’s the most successful coach in NFL history. He’s won more games than anyone. He took over a crap team and spun them into gold. He took the Pats from a team that was lucky to even be mentioned in the press to the most talked about sports team on the planet Earth.

  2. ancylostoma says: Nov 7, 2012 3:49 PM

    “At the end of the year, we’ll see who’s overrated.”

    LOL

  3. firejc says: Nov 7, 2012 3:49 PM

    At least he has a sense of humor. His mistake was not bringing P-Money to his team. Both Mannings on New York teams, they would rename Madison avenue Manning avenue. He also wouldn’t be struggling with an average at best QB and a FB playing QB2.

  4. crownofthehelmet says: Nov 7, 2012 4:05 PM

    ironhawk says:

    I still can’t believe Belichick was second.
    ——————————————————–
    That’s because you’re in denial about Tom Brady carrying BB through those SB wins, and that whole cheating thing.

  5. bobhk says: Nov 7, 2012 4:06 PM

    ironhawk says:
    Nov 7, 2012 3:47 PM
    I still can’t believe Belichick was second. He’s the most successful coach in NFL history. He’s won more games than anyone. He took over a crap team and spun them into gold. He took the Pats from a team that was lucky to even be mentioned in the press to the most talked about sports team on the planet Earth.
    ——–
    My haven’t we drunk some Pats kool aid. Belichick is good, probably best in the last few years, but “most successful”? Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi, and others would disagree.

  6. bobhk says: Nov 7, 2012 4:07 PM

    Also, most talked about team in planet earth?? Highly doubt it. Several soccer teams have a much much bigger following.

  7. jonsilver1947 says: Nov 7, 2012 4:07 PM

    firejc:

    Perhaps you weren’t paying attention when the Jets almost stood on their collective heads trying to get Manning in March…he didn’t want to come…

  8. NakedCowboy! says: Nov 7, 2012 4:14 PM

    He is lining up a def coordinator position in NE next season…

  9. mvp43 says: Nov 7, 2012 4:15 PM

    Unfortunately Rex, Super Bowls rings outweigh how much players like playing for you.

  10. wolfmanpatriot says: Nov 7, 2012 4:24 PM

    That was a very good response from Rex. He does say and do some stupid stuff, yet, it is things like this that make him tolerable, if not almost likable.

    In fact. Since he coaches for the jests, it funny comments like this extend his stay there, I am all for it!

  11. wolfmanpatriot says: Nov 7, 2012 4:29 PM

    My haven’t we drunk some Pats kool aid. Belichick is good, probably best in the last few years, but “most successful”? Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi, and others would disagree.
    ——–

    Wrong. They that are still alive agree that BB has by far had the most successful run. And with less to work with. Especially with free agency and a tightwad owner.

  12. hehateme2 says: Nov 7, 2012 4:36 PM

    “He’s the most successful coach in NFL history. He’s won more games than anyone.? from ironhawk”

    New to football we see. You know it started before 2001. Don Shula is the winningest coach in NFL history and owned the pats for decades.

    These comments are foolish and make the fanbase look dumb.. I mean, dumber.

  13. grandpoopah says: Nov 7, 2012 4:39 PM

    That’s actually pretty funny. Well done for once, Rexy!

  14. flash1283 says: Nov 7, 2012 4:44 PM

    My haven’t we drunk some Pats kool aid. Belichick is good, probably best in the last few years, but “most successful”? Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi, and others would disagree.

    —-
    Walsh- 8-24 without Montana.

  15. east96st says: Nov 7, 2012 4:55 PM

    “Ryan also said that he thinks he’d score well in a poll asking which coaches players would most like to play for…”

    I believe that 100%. I would love to play for Rex. Look how awful Sanchez is and Rex supports and defends him. Basically, you’re guaranteed to keep your job no matter how poorly you perform. Who wouldn’t want a free pass to screw up from the boss?

  16. geniusesq says: Nov 7, 2012 4:56 PM

    M – E – S – S Mess Mess Mess!

  17. geniusfan says: Nov 7, 2012 5:02 PM

    Belichick is definitely one of the most successful coaches in NFL history. I don’t think he’s the most successful but you can’t deny he’s up there with Walsh, Landry, Noll etc. The guy has been to five Super Bowls winning three and this is the salary cap era things are a lot harder now then they were 20-30 years ago.

    Don’t forget about Belichick’s time in New York either, his game-plan for Super Bowl 25 is in the hall of fame for a reason. Parcells hasn’t won a Super Bowl without Belichick coaching his defense either, just saying.

    Some Patriots fans may be homers but in the same vein a lot of people who comment here hate the Patriots so their comments are just as jaded and warped by bias.

  18. patriotenvy says: Nov 7, 2012 5:03 PM

    bobhk says:
    Nov 7, 2012 4:06 PM
    “My haven’t we drunk some Pats kool aid. Belichick is good, probably best in the last few years, but “most successful”? Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi, and others would disagree.”

    Okay, post free agency. Stricter and more rules. ect… It’s a lot tougher to stay on top these days.

  19. bobhk says: Nov 7, 2012 5:25 PM

    wolfmanpatriot says:
    Nov 7, 2012 4:29 PM
    My haven’t we drunk some Pats kool aid. Belichick is good, probably best in the last few years, but “most successful”? Landry, Walsh, Shula, Lombardi, and others would disagree.
    ——–

    Wrong. They that are still alive agree that BB has by far had the most successful run. And with less to work with. Especially with free agency and a tightwad owner.
    —–
    Very clever. Only Shula is alive. Why don’t you pull a quote from him saying that.

    @flash1283 says: Walsh- 8-24 without Montana.

    Belichick w/o Brady 41-55. Sucked for much longer.

    By all means ignore the fact that Walsh actually traded (fleeced TB) for Young and had a lot to do with his HOF career. Belichick has been riding on Brady’s coattails.

  20. yousuxxors says: Nov 7, 2012 5:52 PM

    Its not rexs fault that he has no talent around him.

  21. daubs17 says: Nov 7, 2012 7:12 PM

    Belichick is such a great, HOF worthy coach? Really? How’d Bill do in Cleveland? How did Bill do before Brady? Eric Mangini came on Colin Cowherd’s show and told him that in Week 3 in 2001, him and Belichick were telling their wives to start getting their houses ready to sell because they thought their firing was imminent.

    Lets get one thing straight. Belichick was another coach in a long line of failed coaches in NE and was most likely on his way out before Brady came along. He’s not an offensive coach, and his supposed specialty of defense is….well, hows that going for them so far?

    I just don’t understand the fans and the media putting Belichick on this pedestal like he’s this great coach when he was nothing more than a probably below average coach before Brady.

    You can build any team around a player like Brady, who is probably in the top 2 or 3 QBs in NFL history. The real question is could you build any team around Bill Belichick and achieve the same success? Good luck. Love the comment above too about Belichick spinning the Pats into gold and the most talked about sports team on the planet. Totally absurd.

  22. flash1283 says: Nov 7, 2012 7:33 PM

    @bobhk

    Ignore the fact that BB kept Brady on the active roster as the 4th string QB. Ignore the fact that NO team keeps 4 QB’s on the active roster.
    Ignore the fact that BB new Brady was the best QB they had but could not start him because they just gave Bledsoe a huge contract.
    Ignore the fact that when Bledsoe got hurt Brady went from 4th string to starter.

    I’m not saying that Walsh wasn’t a GREAT coach, but every coach who was or is considered great has or had a Great QB or defense. They go hand and hand. So when people say BB is only good because of TB it’s a little unfair or as you say ” riding Brady’s coat tails “

  23. flash1283 says: Nov 7, 2012 8:03 PM

    daubs17 says:
    Nov 7, 2012 7:12 PM
    Belichick is such a great, HOF worthy coach? Really? How’d Bill do in Cleveland? How did Bill do before Brady? Eric Mangini came on Colin Cowherd’s show and told him that in Week 3 in 2001, him and Belichick were telling their wives to start getting their houses ready to sell because they thought their firing was imminent.

    Lets get one thing straight. Belichick was another coach in a long line of failed coaches in NE and was most likely on his way out before Brady came along. He’s not an offensive coach, and his supposed specialty of defense is….well, hows that going for them so far?

    I just don’t understand the fans and the media putting Belichick on this pedestal like he’s this great coach when he was nothing more than a probably below average coach before Brady.

    You can build any team around a player like Brady, who is probably in the top 2 or 3 QBs in NFL history. The real question is could you build any team around Bill Belichick and achieve the same success? Good luck. Love the comment above too about Belichick spinning the Pats into gold and the most talked about sports team on the planet. Totally absurd.

    0 3

    ——
    Lets see, who was the head coach in Clev the last time they won a playoff game? Oh yeah, BB.

    Then you say he was another in a long line of failed coaches in NE and on his way out. He had ONLY been there 1 year before Brady so no he wasn’t “on his way out”

    And as I said above it was BB who kept TB on the active roster as the 4th QB.

    It just sad that people are so jealous they are not man enough to give credit.

    I have asked before, how can all these people (coaches, former players) how can they ALL be wrong about BB but you have it all figured out.

  24. daubs17 says: Nov 7, 2012 8:56 PM

    So BB won a playoff game in Cleveland so that deserves this kind of notoriety? Look up Belichick’s career with Cleveland. Nevermind, I’ll save you the trouble… 36-44. Yeah theres your HOF stats for ya

    Maybe you should reread my post. I’m not the one who said he was on his way out, Belichick himself said it, according to Eric Mangini.

    And yes, thanks for proving my point. His ONE year there he went 5-11. So that season combined with his Cleveland years gave him a 41-55 head coaching record, lest we forget their 2 losses to open 2001 before Brady started. Doesn’t exactly sound like a level playing field between that track record and the ensuing 5 Superbowl appearances and 3 Superbowl wins now does it?

    Nothing to do with jealousy AT ALL. I have much respect for Tom Brady because he is such a fantastic player., and he is the one that deserves the credit for transcending the NE Patriots, not Belichick.

    Same idea with Phil Jackson, but to a lesser extent because he’s ACTUALLY a good coach. Amazing coaching stats and championship seasons, but for gods sake look at the teams the guy had and the players he coached. Like I said before, you could send Brady to any team today and they would instantly be a 110% better team. You honestly think the same for Belichick? Hell he’s almost spoiling Brady’s last few years in NE while he’s still at the top of his game with the D he ‘s been fielding

  25. bobhk says: Nov 7, 2012 9:29 PM

    flash1283 says:
    Nov 7, 2012 7:33 PM
    @bobhk

    Ignore the fact that BB kept Brady on the active roster as the 4th string QB. Ignore the fact that NO team keeps 4 QB’s on the active roster.
    Ignore the fact that BB new Brady was the best QB they had but could not start him because they just gave Bledsoe a huge contract.
    Ignore the fact that when Bledsoe got hurt Brady went from 4th string to starter.

    I’m not saying that Walsh wasn’t a GREAT coach, but every coach who was or is considered great has or had a Great QB or defense. They go hand and hand. So when people say BB is only good because of TB it’s a little unfair or as you say ” riding Brady’s coat tails “

    —————
    @flash1283

    I was responding to the other poster who said that Walsh was 8-24 without Montana. Belichick had a pretty bad record without Brady too.

    BTW, Walsh did do well in finding a HOF successor.

    Incidentally, if Belichick had such a clue that Brady was that good, he would not have been a 4th stringer. If he’d seen greatness in Brady, Bledsoe’s huge contract would have gone to the bench.

    Look, Belichick is great. But I have an issue with guys claiming Belichick is the greatest in history. Not really…

  26. csilojohnson says: Nov 7, 2012 11:51 PM

    Cheaters lose all acomplishments. Even if they dont get caught. Ask Lance. BB was caught. Multiple times. Just because the NFL chooses to ignore it doesnt mean it didn’t happen. Sorry Pats fans. At least you have one ring without an asterix.

  27. ytsejamer1 says: Nov 8, 2012 7:03 AM

    daubs17…you are so far off the mark with BB and the Pats. Please stop before you make more of a fool of yourself.

    The Pats in 2000 after the mess that the Kraft, previous “GM”, and Carroll left, were a horrendous group. They had a bunch of overweight, overpaid, crybabies…BB had to use that first year to get rid of the dead wood on that team. There was plenty to get rid of and within that one year, they laid the basis for their continued success throughout the decade to follow. (Drafting Brady in 2000, Seymour in 2001, signing Vrabel, OTIS, T-Buck,and other former Parcells/Belichick players)

    As for what BB did in Cleveland…he set up two franchises for continued success…the Ravens and the Patriots. He had a plan and a vision for the way to setup a pro-football program in the salary cap era. There are things he learned he could have improved upon of course…but by and large, he was laying a solid foundation. If you have an issue with the Browns record, you should have taken it up with Art Modell.

    What he has done with the Pats since he arrived is rivaled by no one. The Steelers for all their success has “cycled” up and down…being lights out one or two years, then trash the next. Even Coughlin in NY has almost been fired multiple times due to the up and down nature of his teams. The Patriots have YET to really experience that. Considering the brain drain in Foxborough, having scouts, executives, and outstanding coordinators poached by other teams…he continued to guide the franchise to HALF THE SUPERBOWLS in the last decade.

    Is he the best coach? Yes… Is he the best GM? Heck no…BB the GM has failed BB the coach at times. His inability to develop WR (Branch and Givens were the last ones that turned into good players) and of course, defensive backs is the achilles heel of his tenure. Even with that, it’s a remarkable feat.

  28. pastabelly says: Nov 8, 2012 8:59 AM

    flash1283 says:Nov 7, 2012 7:33 PM

    @bobhk

    Ignore the fact that BB kept Brady on the active roster as the 4th string QB. Ignore the fact that NO team keeps 4 QB’s on the active roster.
    Ignore the fact that BB new Brady was the best QB they had but could not start him because they just gave Bledsoe a huge contract.
    Ignore the fact that when Bledsoe got hurt Brady went from 4th string to starter.

    I’m not saying that Walsh wasn’t a GREAT coach, but every coach who was or is considered great has or had a Great QB or defense. They go hand and hand. So when people say BB is only good because of TB it’s a little unfair or as you say ” riding Brady’s coat tails “
    ===============================
    Yup, most coaches would cut Brady and then gone back to Bledsoe when healthy. Belichick also had the balls to trade Bledsoe within the division. Belichick was also the first to figure out the management of a team through the salary cap. He also had a lot to do with the defense that stopped the Bills juggernaut offense in the Super Bowl and did the same with the Pats against the Greatest Show on Turf. He has been involved in more Super Bowls as an assistant and head coach than anyone in the history of the game.

    I tend to think people voting for him as “overrated” are people who just don’t like him personally. There is no doubt that he is one of the most polarizing figures in NFL history. But he certainly isn’t overrated.

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