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Eli’s struggles may be due to “tired arm”

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Two-time Super Bowl champion Eli Manning has struggled the past three weeks. Not a ton has been made of it because the G-Men have won two of the three games. But Eli has not played well, and it’s been evident both on the field and in the box scores.

Manning’s struggles were especially noticeable in Weeks Eight and Nine. Against the Cowboys and Steelers, Manning combined to complete just 25-of-54 passes (46.3 percent) for 317 yards (5.87 YPA), no touchdowns, and two interceptions.

NFL Films guru Greg Cosell mentioned on Friday’s Yahoo! Week Ten preview podcast that Manning’s struggles may be due to a “tired arm,” 318 throws into his ninth NFL season. And not only has it been evident on game tape, but Cosell and ESPN’s Ron Jaworski confirmed with someone in the know that Eli’s arm is tired.

“Ron Jaworski and I were having this conversation this week,” Cosell said. “I looked at Eli on Monday; Jaws looked at Eli on Wednesday. And he made a very interesting comment. It really struck me, and I would defer to Jaws on this because I’ve never taken snaps in the NFL. … It looks to him like Eli’s arm is a little tired. And that he’s not driving the ball at the intermediate and deeper levels the way we’ve come to expect. Because Eli has a strong arm.

“And we even got that sort of confirmed by someone who’s a lot closer to the situation. His arm’s a little bit tired right now. He’s missed some throws that he would normally make.”

The Giants aren’t going to bench Manning, so they’ll likely just sit back and hope he snaps out of it.

New York visits Cincinnati in Week Ten.

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46 Responses to “Eli’s struggles may be due to “tired arm””
  1. papasbasement says: Nov 9, 2012 5:20 PM

    I also have a tired arm, but it has nothing to do with football.

  2. mazblast says: Nov 9, 2012 5:21 PM

    Please don’t bother to consider the possibility that the defenses have had anything to do with his poor performances.

  3. stevemo says: Nov 9, 2012 5:34 PM

    “The Giants aren’t going to bench Manning, so they’ll likely just sit back and hope he snaps out of it.”

    Why is this line even here? This is one of the best in the NFL we’re talking about, fresh off another championship…

  4. keepingitrealdumb says: Nov 9, 2012 5:36 PM

    “The Giants aren’t going to bench Manning, so they’ll likely just sit back and hope he snaps out of it.”

    =============================
    what? snap out of it? that is your solution to fatigue is to snap out of it? who writes this stuff?

    REST is how you deal with fatigue .. not ‘snapping out of it’

  5. baloneyjohn says: Nov 9, 2012 5:36 PM

    Straighten it out. Us that drafted him for FF are dying.

  6. adantsa says: Nov 9, 2012 5:40 PM

    If Jaws says it, it must be true cause that guy studies the tape. I know this because every sentence that comes out of his mouth starts with “I’ve studied the tape and….”

  7. Kelsch Design says: Nov 9, 2012 5:47 PM

    My wife has a tired mouth too, but that never stopped her before!

  8. scrp2 says: Nov 9, 2012 5:50 PM

    “And we even got that sort of confirmed”

    As long as the “tired arm” is “sort of confirmed” then I think we have something created from nothing.

  9. bigbwoy000 says: Nov 9, 2012 5:54 PM

    Knowing Eli he could be dinged up & he’s keeping that to himself. No one can deny the dude is tough, he never comes out & never misses games. Even after SF beat him into the ground in the NFC Champ game, he just popped back up time & time again.

  10. golonger says: Nov 9, 2012 5:54 PM

    ..OMG….tired arm?…we are 8 games into the season…are you serious. Always some off-the-wall excuse for the brothers Manning! LOL

  11. Mr. Wright 212 says: Nov 9, 2012 6:08 PM

    mazblast says: Nov 9, 2012 5:21 PM

    Please don’t bother to consider the possibility that the defenses have had anything to do with his poor performances.
    ————

    It doesn’t. He’s missed easy throws and open guys — which the defense “has something to do with”.

  12. cooklynn17 says: Nov 9, 2012 6:15 PM

    Dudes getting 100 million dollars, please suck it up. No excuses just results.

  13. jeffa43 says: Nov 9, 2012 6:18 PM

    Did the dead arm occur before or after Timmons leveled him?

    Funny, same thing happened to Sanchez in week 2.

  14. bigbluecrew420 says: Nov 9, 2012 6:46 PM

    Could it be because of all the rings hes got to carry???

  15. tiproast says: Nov 9, 2012 6:50 PM

    There’s a team out there that gives their QB a day off of practice each week to keep the number of throws under control.

    Of course, if a player misses a practice he must be listed on the injury report for the upcoming game that week (league policy). So the player gets listed as P (shoulder).

    Of course, the team gets accused of lying every week, but it seems a small price to pay for having a QB with a live arm on Sunday.

  16. dbones750 says: Nov 9, 2012 7:05 PM

    What!? Throwing the football is what he does. If this pansy “tired arm” is affecting him at all, stop letting him pass during the week. Let him save it for the 4th qtr, when the GMen need it.

  17. jerseyshoregiant says: Nov 9, 2012 7:06 PM

    Jaworski is a tool and has been flat out wrong or grossly inaccurate in so many cases its funny.

  18. grogansheroes says: Nov 9, 2012 7:31 PM

    Let the excuses begin. Let me ask a question: if Eli had to play against the Giants defense in the Super Bowl, and Brady played against the Patriot defense, what do you think the score would be? Prolly 45-0 Pats.

  19. mjkelly77 says: Nov 9, 2012 7:44 PM

    Overrated. Lucky he plays on a very good team.

  20. joedavis291 says: Nov 9, 2012 7:57 PM

    tired arm Lombardi Trophies must be heavy

  21. jerrygogo says: Nov 9, 2012 7:58 PM

    How to help “tired arm”:

    Bungles then Bye.

    ELIte!!!!!!

  22. pftfollower says: Nov 9, 2012 8:06 PM

    Well, that means Archie will start shooting his mouth off any minute now.

    Seriously, any other player would’ve been hated or at least labeled selfish or self entitled for refusing to play for the team that drafted him. Somehow Eli got a pass and wasn’t subject to any blowback.

    Hey harbaughs, who’s got it better than you?

    The meanings, that’s who

  23. 3beeps says: Nov 9, 2012 8:14 PM

    Or it could be the fact that Hakeem Nicks was hurt in the first OTA back in June and Mario Manningham is out in San Francisco asking himself why Alex Smith.

    Rueben Randle was drafted as a purportedly NFL-ready WR, instead he has been invisible. Domenik Hixon — injury prone. Ramses Barden — 4 years and he’s still wondering what this talk about “Option Routes” is all about.

    Running Backs that don’t catch the ball well, a TE that has to stay in to help the shaky OL.

    But they “confirmed with someone in the know that Eli’s arm is tired”
    Who’d they talk to…..Adam Schein ?!?!?

  24. zack2482 says: Nov 9, 2012 8:49 PM

    Excuses, excuses. This is the real Manning.

  25. bluewinger says: Nov 9, 2012 9:04 PM

    If Eli has a tired arm it’s from that offensive co-ordinator Gilbrite. Killdrive can’t find a screen or the short pass. Eli gets pressure and Gilbrite continues to have him throw deep. And Gilbrite, try running the ball little more.
    Even a blind squirrell can find a nut or 2 just like killdrive did in the Superbowls.
    When the gmen backs are up against the wall , Gilbrite will go back to the run.

  26. saintsfan26 says: Nov 9, 2012 9:30 PM

    tired arm my ***. The dude is a fraud. He has never lived up to the hype. His defense has carried him his whole career. Eli will never be an elite QB like Brees.

  27. nfl fan says: Nov 9, 2012 9:30 PM

    If Jaws says it, it must be true cause that guy studies the tape. I know this because every sentence that comes out of his mouth starts with “I’ve studied the tape and….”
    —————————————————–
    “I’ve never won a Super Bowl”

  28. fuglyflorio says: Nov 9, 2012 9:47 PM

    Yes, let’s defer to known Giants hater … The envious Ron Jaworski.

  29. mtx1992 says: Nov 9, 2012 10:04 PM

    Brees, Brady and Rodgers all have more attempts than Eli, but they don’t have a “tired arm”.

  30. roadtrip3500 says: Nov 9, 2012 10:26 PM

    When did anyone ever say Eli Manning had Dave Parker’s right arm? He’s not one of the QBs with a cannon; he just happens to be clutch when it counts. If he hits Cruz for another go-pattern TD in Cincy like the game-winner against Washington, this tired arm talk will magically disappear.

  31. lj6917 says: Nov 9, 2012 10:37 PM

    Kevin Gilbrides awful offense is option based. Eli and his receivers have to be on the same page. They are given 3 routes and have to know what he is thinking in order for it to be effective. The receivers are young and due to injury it’s a revolving door. Eli doesn’t complain, doesn’t blame anyone, just goes about his business. Stop trolling and judging the guy because you all wish you had a qb that did the same.

  32. peytonsneck18 says: Nov 9, 2012 10:46 PM

    never hear peyton say his neck is sore, and he has a legitimate reason too

  33. wferg1121 says: Nov 9, 2012 10:59 PM

    It could be, I know some of his throws are off because his receivers are running wrong routes. Martellus Bennet claimed responsibility for one of Eli’s passes that was intercepted in the skins game. I also think Cruz and him were not on the same page last week. The Giants offense has option routes that WR’s pick whether to go inside/outside or deep based on coverage, and I think the WR are more to do with his recent performance and INT’s than anyone else. Every year he is breaking in new TE’s or new recievers.

  34. 2fleas says: Nov 9, 2012 11:11 PM

    Easy E will be ok.

  35. enrifer says: Nov 9, 2012 11:30 PM

    Tired arm? I thought he was married…

  36. hedleykow says: Nov 9, 2012 11:37 PM

    This is the tiredest article I have read all day.

  37. CKL says: Nov 9, 2012 11:48 PM

    Tiproast is a wise, wise man. :)

  38. n0hopeleft says: Nov 10, 2012 12:02 AM

    Lets all mark this story down, set a reminder, and revisit it in January.

    Please with the tired arm, thats ridiculous.

    The Giants and Eli have never played dominant, lights out football during this time of year, yet they’ve won 2 out of the last 5.

    If they dont defend their title, or at least make the playoffs, it wont be because of a tired arm.

  39. cliffleesbeard says: Nov 10, 2012 12:10 AM

    The good old NOODLE ARM

  40. Little Earthquake says: Nov 10, 2012 12:18 AM

    No, don’t you get it? He’s resting now so the Giants can run the tables Week 15 through the Super Bowl. This is how they do things.

  41. jibberator says: Nov 10, 2012 12:34 AM

    Eli just isn’t that good…overrated and is carried by his team. If it wasn’t for Cruz being able to catch all his garbage throws he wouldn’t be anywhere.

  42. dougy1970 says: Nov 10, 2012 1:41 AM

    Giants have a bye after this week. This should end the tired arm issue, assuming that it is one.

  43. joetoronto says: Nov 10, 2012 5:37 AM

    If you want to see a weak arm, get a load of Andy Dalton.

    He can’t throw a deep ball on the money if his life depended on it.

  44. jaymc1988 says: Nov 10, 2012 7:46 AM

    bluewinger says:
    Nov 9, 2012 9:04 PM
    If Eli has a tired arm it’s from that offensive co-ordinator Gilbrite. Killdrive can’t find a screen or the short pass. Eli gets pressure and Gilbrite continues to have him throw deep. And Gilbrite, try running the ball little more.
    Even a blind squirrell can find a nut or 2 just like killdrive did in the Superbowls.
    When the gmen backs are up against the wall , Gilbrite will go back to the run
    ______________

    ^^ TRUEEEE!

    _ _ _ _
    enrifer says:
    Nov 9, 2012 11:30 PM
    Tired arm? I thought he was married…

    _________

    point proven LOL

    on another note i hate this tired arm excuse, i hope hes hurt (well not hope, but u know) bec if hes suffering from “tired arm” that is NOT a good look. when have u ever herd a qb suffering from tired arm week 9 lmao. sad sad excuse and im a giants fan

  45. philk0731 says: Nov 10, 2012 8:26 AM

    I’ll take a QB who isn’t good with 2 Superbowl MVP’s any day!

  46. richwizl says: Nov 10, 2012 9:15 AM

    Maybe he does have attired arm, why not? The Giants are in a good position to give him some rest. They are probably good enough to win a couple games with their 2nd QB, if necessary. This guy is a terrific QB and plenty tough. I’m a Pats fan, but wouldn’t mind having Eli if Brady were not around. Give the guy a week off and evaluate him; the Bengals aren’t that tough.

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