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Reid’s exit likely, but not yet a certainty

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When the Eagles built a 3-1 record via a trio of close wins that could have easily gone the other way, Philly fans didn’t think their team was getting enough credit.

Five straight losses later, the Eagles were in hindsight getting too much credit.

But while the bulk of the blame will go to coach Andy Reid, it’s not yet a given that owner Jeffrey Lurie will fire the 14-year coach.  If the Eagles fail to show improvement down the stretch, it will be.  But if there’s an uptick, Lurie could decide to give Reid another chance.

Forgotten in the notorious “8-8 will get Reid fired” press conference from Lurie was the asterisk he applied for a rash of injuries.  A rash of injuries on the offensive line has contributed to the poor performance of the team.

Also, keep in mind the notion that Lurie will want the team to be desirable to a new coach.  With no franchise quarterback, a looming cap problem in 2013, a nucleus of players that is getting closer to (and above) 30, and a not-so-hot drafts in 2010 and 2011, a coach with options may opt not to come to Philly.

And so Lurie still may opt to keep Reid.  The key could be coaxing the kind of performance from rookie quarterback Nick Foles to make Lurie believe that the team’s interests will be best served by keeping Reid around.

Again, the chances of that happening are shrinking every week.  But while the fans and the media are presuming it’s a done deal, Reid’s still not done yet.

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52 Responses to “Reid’s exit likely, but not yet a certainty”
  1. acoman89 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:14 AM

    if reid stays there will be a riot in philly

  2. ncs115 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:15 AM

    No it’s a done deal. These last 5 years have been absolutely pathetic and at this point, Eagles fans are now in the worst possible mindset you can be as a fanbase….completely apathetic

  3. scoops1 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:23 AM

    It’s over. Enjoy coaching the Browns, Andy

  4. eagleswin says: Nov 12, 2012 8:24 AM

    From Rotoworld :

    An Eagles source told Yahoo! Sports that coach Andy Reid will likely keep his job heading into Week 11 against the Redskins.
    The source indicated that it’s within the realm of possibility for Reid to lose his job in-season, even if a firing isn’t imminent. “Don’t see it before we’re eliminated,” the Eagles source said. The source did say Reid “probably” won’t be fired “’til the season is over.” The Eagles are expected to fire their entire coaching staff in January, although GM Howie Roseman is believed to be safe.

  5. eagleswin says: Nov 12, 2012 8:26 AM

    When the Eagles built a 3-1 record via a trio of close wins that could have easily gone the other way, Philly fans didn’t think their team was getting enough credit.

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    Interesting, I found it to be quite the opposite. Fans were stressed about how bad the Eagles looked during those wins, all the turnovers and sacks. The media kept telling everyone not to panic as they were 3-1 regardless of how bad they looked during the games.

    Now that their record reflects the level of play the media is revising history.

  6. flavordave says: Nov 12, 2012 8:27 AM

    Lurie will retain Reid for the year out of respect. Rest assured hes gone the day the season officially ends. He will be hired elsewhere that same week and then its their problem. Good luck to that team when they realize he talks the talk but cant walk the walk. But hey, he’ll do “a better job putting players in the right position to make plays”. lol And for the fans out there that think Eagles fans are nuts after 14 years of “just good enough to make the playoffs” to want him to leave, I wish him upon your team.

  7. kvanhorn87 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:29 AM

    You have all been predicting cap demise for 10 years. No problems here, check the numbers and the consequences for cutting these players loose.

  8. sterilizecromartie says: Nov 12, 2012 8:30 AM

    Reid is gone if they miss the playoffs. Period. Trust me. Lurie gave his ultimatum last year and Reid has failed. The team wasn’t playing well even before the rash of injuries to the O-Line. They barely beat the Browns the very first week. That was a sign that this team, and coach, were not very good. I live near Philly and if they give Reid another chance there may be a riot. They have had it with him and Vick.

    That being said, the fanbase does need to chill on this “Foles is the future” talk. As much as Reid and Vick are tied together, so are Reid and Foles. If a new coach comes in, he is going to want to hand pick “his guy” at QB. I’ll be shocked if he saddles himself up with Nick Foles. I’d bet “the field” if I were to bet on who will be starting at QB week one in Philly in 2013 before I’d bet on Vick or Foles.

  9. frankgarrett says: Nov 12, 2012 8:32 AM

    When he get’s fired . Report that .. Tired of speculation

  10. rg3andthensome says: Nov 12, 2012 8:38 AM

    How about the Cowboys is my bet….No way JG keeps going down there. And my beloved Skins need a Def Coor.!

  11. roth19 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:40 AM

    He should be fired today.

    Everything is his fault. He hired Juan Castillo has DC. He brought in Vick and made him the QB of the franchise. He is calling the worst pass/run ratio.

    Jim Johnson made this team good all those years with his defense. Since his departure you now see what kind of coach Andy really is.

    I don’t like the Eagles though, so keep him around!!!

  12. suprinelolskins says: Nov 12, 2012 8:41 AM

    I’d say a HC job in Philly is more attractive, Owner gives his HC time, large scope for personnel input, willing to spend in FA and the ability to dump the likes of Nnamdi, Jenkins, Babin and Vick for little penalty

  13. eagleswin says: Nov 12, 2012 8:45 AM

    Also, keep in mind the notion that Lurie will want the team to be desirable to a new coach. With no franchise quarterback, a looming cap problem in 2013, a nucleus of players that is getting closer to (and above) 30, and a not-so-hot drafts in 2010 and 2011, a coach with options may opt not to come to Philly.

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    I’m glad that someone in the press finally admits that Vick is not a franchise QB. Regardless, with both Vick, Nnamdi (and Bell although that should be a given) expected be cut this offseason the eagles clear over 35 mill of cap space.

  14. raiderlyfe510 says: Nov 12, 2012 8:52 AM

    Firing a QB guru, in a QB driven league(I hate that phrase), like Andy Reid would be a big mistake. All he needs is what my man Hue Jackson needed…a Defense Coordinator.

    Eagle fans want Gruden. I’m probably Gru’s biggest fan, but he hasn’t ever developed a QB. Reid developed countless QB. 4 or 5 NFC championship appearances and a Superbowl appearance.

    Well if the Eagles to fire the man, hopefully Reggie Mckenzie is smart enough to fire or underachieving Head Coach and make a full court press to hire Reid.

  15. drybass says: Nov 12, 2012 8:55 AM

    Looming cap issues? Eagles are carrying a large sum into next season and there are going to be some major cuts. As far as age goes; most likely Vick will be cut, Babin gone if Washburn goes, Landri gone, Tapp gone, McBriar gone then add in the 2013 draft class and Eagles could easily be one of the youngest teams in the NFL next year

  16. jwil444 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:02 AM

    This is a tough business. Lost in all of this is the fact just a few short months ago, Reid lost his son tragically. At some point maybe Reid will decide, he’s had enough of Philly as well.

  17. captainwisdom8888 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:04 AM

    I have never jumped on the fire Andy bandwagon in years past, but NOW is the time, plain and simple.

    We need a new culture in Philadelphia. The culture right now reeks of mediocrity. We’re waiting around to lose every game, nobody looks hungry to make a statement.

    Dawkins…up ur taekwondo workouts, we need ya in 2013

  18. stiffmcgriff says: Nov 12, 2012 9:04 AM

    Reid will get axed at the end of the season. So will Pat Shurmur of the Browns.

    Jon Gruden will take over Philly.

    Reid will take over Cleveland.

  19. rdefranc27 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:09 AM

    Anyone know what “looming cap problem” he is referring to? Cap space is one thing the Eagles have never had a problem with, and if they cut Vick at the end of the year that would seem to free up a lot of dough.

    I agree with the “no quarterback and bad recent drafts” argument, but I don’t get the cap space reference. Plus they still have one of the youngest rosters in the league, it just doesn’t happen to be playing very well right now.

    Overall I think Philadelphia would still be an attractive destination for a coach depending on the ultimate authority that is going to be given to the new coach. Andy has had tremendous authority over football operations, so that must be seen as a plus to a coaching candidate.

  20. fivetwos says: Nov 12, 2012 9:11 AM

    Wasn’t Philly a “dream team” only about 15 months ago?

  21. jbell33139 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:12 AM

    Just like we lost to Pitt and Det, we could have easily beaten them.

  22. dadsource says: Nov 12, 2012 9:13 AM

    Come to Jacksonville, Andy. The expectations can’t be any lower, and we be THRILLED with 8-8!

  23. fuglyflorio says: Nov 12, 2012 9:16 AM

    Don’t worry. Whoever the next coach of the Dream Team turns out to be … he’ll instantly be ‘the best coach in the NFL’.

  24. greatminnesotasportsmind says: Nov 12, 2012 9:16 AM

    You can always get Brad Childress and prevent him from ruining Trent Richardson’s career

  25. andrewproughcfe says: Nov 12, 2012 9:20 AM

    @acoman89 – ” if reid stays there will be a riot in philly”

    ========================

    Its Philly. Somebody’s going to burn a cop car and tear down street lights regardless of what happens to Reid.

  26. stevemo says: Nov 12, 2012 9:31 AM

    Reid makes Foles look great like he does with everyone, new coach comes in and expects a Franchise QB and gets AJ Feeley. Justice for Reid.

  27. packerbadger says: Nov 12, 2012 9:41 AM

    Well, at least Reid got a Super Bowl ring…..in Green Bay!!!

  28. phillyphan72 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:44 AM

    Andy has shopped for the groceries and the meal came out terrible…next please

  29. jaxisgreat says: Nov 12, 2012 9:46 AM

    Pulled for the Cowboys last night for the first time in my life ! The largest Blue City in America VS a Red city run by the Blank Panthers. It was a no braner !

  30. jaxisgreat says: Nov 12, 2012 9:48 AM

    The Eaglesshould change thier name to the Black Panthers.

  31. redskinsguy77 says: Nov 12, 2012 9:49 AM

    “Lurie will retain Reid for the year out of respect. Rest assured hes gone the day the season officially ends. He will be hired elsewhere that same week and then its their problem. Good luck to that team when they realize he talks the talk but cant walk the walk. But hey, he’ll do “a better job putting players in the right position to make plays”. lol And for the fans out there that think Eagles fans are nuts after 14 years of “just good enough to make the playoffs” to want him to leave, I wish him upon your team.”

    The irony is that Reid will be a hot commodity when he hits the open market, and like so many players that Reid has shipped out of Philly, he will never have the same success he had in Philly.

  32. xrateplaya says: Nov 12, 2012 10:09 AM

    Hope all those foles supporters can shut up.. That guy sucked yesterday his one good throw was a blown coverage

  33. sxt004 says: Nov 12, 2012 10:10 AM

    Are you kidding me? When aren’t the Eagles fans beyond upset about something. They could go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs and the fans would cry for reids head. They did it when McNabb was there, they’ve been doing it to Reid, and the next guy up will be the same. They asked for Foles and look what the kid did. Philly fans turn their backs on their team at the drop of a hat. Worst fans and people in the US

  34. jaxisgreat says: Nov 12, 2012 10:13 AM

    The Eagles should change thier name to the Black Panthers.

  35. jaxisgreat says: Nov 12, 2012 10:13 AM

    Pulled for the Cowboys last night for the first time in my life ! The largest Blue City in America VS a Red city run by the Blank Panthers. It was a no brainer !

  36. 16x8equal49ers says: Nov 12, 2012 10:29 AM

    Without Reid this team will be worse, and stay bad for a while I mean we are talking about the Eagles, historically a losing franchise before this era.

  37. shlort says: Nov 12, 2012 10:32 AM

    Lots of people talking about the cap space. Here is the deal. The Eagles lured all these “stars” to Philly with big contracts that were loaded heavy on the back end. That means these players are due big money next season and the Eagles wont be able to afford it and stay under the cap. The Eagles could restructure deals, but will the players agree? Probably not. The Eagles put all their eggs in one basket, and an overhaul of the team is coming fast.

  38. jbaxt says: Nov 12, 2012 10:34 AM

    So Reid will go to Cleveland, KC will hire Mangini, then after Reid gets fired in Cleveland KC will pick him up…

    Fire Pioli before the off-season!

  39. jb0621 says: Nov 12, 2012 10:43 AM

    I agree 100% with eagleswin! No one in Philly thought the team was not getting enough credit at 3-1. Most of us thought they deserved to be 0-4. Injuries have definitely had an impact on this season, but Reid is more to blame.

    1) When they brought in Demetress Bell and saw he was terrible this preseason, it was Reid who was too arrogant to go out and sign/trade for more help. All of this from a team that is in the top two in salary cap space yet again.

    2) The awful play-calling is on Reid (1st and goal and 3 straight passing plays!?)

    3) Reid blatantly refuses to run the ball or change his scheme despite not having the personnel to run it effectively. That is the definition of stubborn.

    THAT is why he needs to go!

  40. takemytalentstosoutheuclid says: Nov 12, 2012 10:46 AM

    So, their drafts went to sh#t when Heckert left? Hmmmmm…..

  41. janvanflac says: Nov 12, 2012 10:50 AM

    I have always been a Reid supporter.
    But things have clearly gotten toxic, best to move on for all involved.

  42. patriotsdefense says: Nov 12, 2012 11:00 AM

    AND introducing the new headcoach of your Los Angeles Chargers: Andy Reid

  43. greymares says: Nov 12, 2012 11:30 AM

    I have been telling you people all year Reid is not going anywhere. Lurie never said he was going to be fired. He said 8 & 8 was not acceptable, he never said what action he would take and I guarantee that Reid will be here because there were to many circumstances he couldn’t control

  44. ianijm says: Nov 12, 2012 11:39 AM

    I totally disagree. This is one of those “CYA” articles written just in case Reid stays so some guy can say, “I called it!” after the fact.

    Reid is absolutely gone. Lurie has been publicly embarrassed multiple times this season on national television and he knows well enough how his “8-8 isn’t good enough” comment was interpreted.

    Bottom line is … well … the bottom line. This team is losing fans in droves right now and it’s only going to get worse until he fires Reid. Lurie wants to make money first and foremost and in the NFL you do that by winning games. Reid is gone.

  45. tennesseeoilers says: Nov 12, 2012 11:40 AM

    As a die-hard Titans fan and a Charlotte, NC resident, I can tell you with certainty that Andy Reid would be welcomed with open arms by Titans and Panthers fans and become an instant rock star the moment he moved to Nashville or Charlotte. Both cities have come within one play of a Super Bowl title, and we know Andy could get us back.

  46. snowpea84 says: Nov 12, 2012 11:44 AM

    I’m sorry….but who didn’t think the Eagles were getting enough credit early in the season? Most Eagles fans were down on the team the whole time, or at least not excited about them by week 4.

  47. kenny328usa says: Nov 12, 2012 11:48 AM

    I live in Philly and listen to sports talk radio all day every day. And when they were 3-1 I didn’t hear 1 person say that they weren’t getting enough credit. In fact most fans were still pretty skeptical of the team after a couple of 1 point wins. So cool it with the hyperbole Mike, philly fans get enough of a bad name without your lies.

  48. fmwarner says: Nov 12, 2012 11:57 AM

    janvanflac says: Nov 12, 2012 10:50 AM

    I have always been a Reid supporter.
    But things have clearly gotten toxic, best to move on for all involved.
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    These are my feelings as well. But make no mistake – the fact that Reid deserves to be fired this year doesn’t mean these yahoos were right all along when they chanted “Fire Andy” after each of the last 9 years. He’s a great coach who will do well somewhere else just like he did in Philly. His time’s just run out here.

  49. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 12, 2012 12:39 PM

    Please don’t get Gruden, I don’t want the Eagles to take advantage of the opportunity to be the best in the division and become relevant!

  50. orivar says: Nov 12, 2012 3:07 PM

    Reid will be gone. Though at this point it’s probably the best for Reid, career wise and life wise. People still keep forgetting that after going through years of having one of his sons addicted to heroin, it ended with him losing him.

    Despite having a terrible run/pass ratio, Reid is a good coach, who needs people who oppose him (Childress) rather than have his playing style and suck (Morhinweg). Forgetting the sports aspect, I think Reid really needs a change of scenery, too many recent memories here.

  51. fmwarner says: Nov 12, 2012 5:05 PM

    thestrategyexpert says: Nov 12, 2012 12:39 PM

    Please don’t get Gruden, I don’t want the Eagles to take advantage of the opportunity to be the best in the division and become relevant!
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    Don’t worry. If they get Gruden, they’ll never have to worry about being relevant.

  52. 5ringsgoing6 says: Nov 14, 2012 7:38 PM

    I always thought that he was a walrus.

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