Minnesota governor threatens to undo stadium deal

AP

The Vikings could eventually be back in play for L.A.

As the team’s new stadium moves from blueprint to bricks and mortar, the politician who helped push the deal through a reluctant legislature isn’t happy.  And he has threatened in a roundabout way to nix the project.

The problems arise from the team’s willingness to play home games in London while the new stadium is being constructed, along with the notion that a portion of the team’s contribution toward the stadium costs could be raised via season-ticket holders.

“The project’s strong support came from many regular Minnesotans, not just rich Minnesotans, because they believed the Vikings are also their team. If a new stadium were to betray that trust, it would be better that it not be built,” Governor Mark Dayton wrote in a letter to owners Zygi and Mark Wilf, via the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

“This Private contribution is yours, not theirs,” Dayton added, opting for an underline in lieu of an exclamation point.  “I said this new stadium would be a ‘People’s Stadium,’ not a ‘Rich People’s Stadium.’  I meant it then, and I mean it now.”

Unless they work this out, it could end up being “No People’s Stadium.”  And the Vikings could be playing at Farmer’s Field.

62 responses to “Minnesota governor threatens to undo stadium deal

  1. Lifelong Vikings fan and I have to say that Minnesota DOES NOT deserve the franchise. I’ll root for them regardless of their zip code. Ziggy pack your bags and tell these idiots to try and sell tickets to watch the lakes freeze over. What a pack of fools the Minnesota legislators are!!!!

  2. Dayton, when asked on two occasions about the Vikings portion of the stadium cost, said this…

    “I don’t care how they get their money.”

    Not that I disagree with his current frustration, but you said it loud and clear, Mr. Dayton.

  3. 1) I can see why he’s upset about the London games/timing. When the Vikings post this on their website…”According to CSL, the economic activity from a new stadium will generate over $26 million per year in tax revenue and over $145 million in direct spending by Vikings fans inside the State of Minnesota.”…. then they immediately start planning ‘home games’ in London that take away from that revenue… it would be a burn for me too.

    2) That said Mr. Dayton – it doesn’t appear that they were mandated to stipulate where their contribution would come from. That’s YOUR bad.

    3) Lastly Mr. Dayton… sports venues in general are marching quickly away from ‘The People’. You’re in denial on that.

  4. The Wilfs are best to listen here, Dayton and his DFLers just regained control of both the house and senate here in MN and I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch to think that he can’t garner the support needed to undo the deal.

  5. This is really unfortunate for the state of Minnesota. Coming from someone who is originally from Buffalo and a diehard Bills fan, I don’t want any fan base to lose their team and the threat of one leaving is just as worse. I think this will eventually get taken care of, as it seems the governors concern is “betraying the trust of the people of Minnesota.” I don’t know about any people from Minnesota, but if I lived there and was a diehard Vikes fan, I would take any betrayal just keep the Vikings in Minnesota.

  6. “This Private contribution is yours, not theirs”

    If they raise prices and people don’t buy the tickets, the private contribution is the Wilf’s. If they raise prices and people buy tickets anyway, the money goes to the Wilf’s who can’t use it on anything else once they contribute it.

    Either way, the obligation is on the Wilf’s. If they choose to raise prices and people choose to pay it, then government shouldn’t get in the way of people being able to choose how to spend their money.

  7. Love the Vikings, don’t love paying $2,000 just so I’m allowed to buy tickets.

    I felt this was wrong when other teams around the league started to do this; it isn’t fair to the fans who truly love the team, but can’t afford to see them in person.

  8. The current issue has nothing to due with London.

    The current issue at hand is regarding stadium seat licensing. The Vikings recently sent an e-mail to season ticket holders probing their thoughts regarding the possibility of seat licensing in the new stadium.

  9. I felt this was wrong when other teams around the league started to do this; it isn’t fair to the fans who truly love the team, but can’t afford to see them in person.
    _______________________________

    Couldn’t agree more. I always thought that the term “PSL” was sideways for “blackmail”. Then again, I’ve felt that the NFL stopped caring about the individual fans years ago. As for Gov. Dayton, I don’t live in Minnesota
    and know nothing about him, but he sounds to me like just another gas-bag politician trying to curry favor with voters.

  10. Um, iamjimmyjack, just as good as the LA Rams, LA Raiders, LA Chargers?

    Problem with any team moving to LA is they have to live in trailers like any other roving circus. The only sure thing is they would move again. You are nothing now but the NFL’s version of the boogieman.

  11. What is it with you weens who come on here and post that LA Vikings crap? Is it some secret desire to have the Vikings in LA? The Jags not good enough for you? Seems like the USC footballs arent the only thing in LA having the air let out of it!

  12. Cannot stand Dayton. He; one of is the biggest dork’s on the planet. With that said, I agree with him. However, how does he and why does he think the Vikes Org. would not raise ticket prices? Of course they would want to recoup some of the money for the stadium.

    Besides, the non fans reading this, the Wilfts had a perfect piece of land outside the twin cities and plans to open shopping mall across the street, own the parking rights and make it similar to what the Packers have going. The good ol boys in the twin cities quashed that so the Wilfs end up with a stadium, no shopping, no parking so they took it on the chin in this deal too all because of politic’s: got to keep the team downtown.

  13. Okay calm down!

    Nowhere does the Gov. threaten to undo the deal. He makes vague references towards it being better off not built if the Vikings “betray the trust” of Minnesotans. Lip service. PSL’s are written into the bill. Too late.

    He does say he would try to block their use…again…too late Mark.

  14. wutdafuhk says: Nov 13, 2012 11:27 AM

    Anytime London is mentioned in conjunction with the NFL, Goodell should be tied to a post and whipped.
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    Took longer than usual for some mouth breathing but freaker to bring Goodell up.

  15. Saber rattling by a spineless twit. Dayton knows that if he were to quash the stadium deal he’d run out of the state in no time. Its all about his legacy and he’s not going to go down in history as the governor that chased the team out of town. The PSL deal that was “leaked” recently was nothing more than a trial balloon by the team to see what public reaction was. As one of the local radio guys said yesterday, it equates to licking your finger and sticking it in the air to see which way the wind is blowing. They can do PSL’s to sell seats, but once they get to a point where they can’t sell them, then the price will go down so that the rest of us can afford them. Its simple supply and demand economics, but of course its been proven time and again that most libs have no idea how economics work.

  16. What is this rhetoric about “rich” Minnesotans vs “regular” Minnesotans? What is that fool talking about?

  17. Dayton is famous for this kind of crap. Would not surprise me in the least. Just let it go, it’s one game…

  18. Love the Vikings, don’t love paying $2,000 just so I’m allowed to buy tickets.

    I felt this was wrong when other teams around the league started to do this; it isn’t fair to the fans who truly love the team, but can’t afford to see them in person.

    ————————————————–

    Have we lost all perspective on what a free market is? If the demand is there, prices will rise. That’s not unfair. In fact, it’s exactly the opposite. It’s completely fair. When the price exceeds the demand, price will drop. Just because you or I can’t afford it anymore doesn’t make it unfair.

    If someone is willing to pay you $10,000 for your used car, but the guy over there wanted it too, but could only afford $5,000, is it unfair for you to sell it for the higher price?

  19. Good for the governor ! About time these billionaires weren’t able to get away with extorting stadiums from everyday people and laughing all the way to the bank.

  20. peopletrains says:
    Nov 13, 2012 10:57 AM
    Glad Dayton is sticking up for the common man.
    ———————–

    He’s just ticked off the State might lose out of tax money – he talks out of both sides of his mouth when he’s talking about the “common man”.

    I agree with the sentiment of his letter but I don’t buy that this has anything to do with Dayton caring about the fans.

  21. This is nothing but posturing to limit the seat license gouging. This came in response to a survey, and the Vikes have even admitted if there is a license at all, it will be limited in amount and location (Lester Bagley specifically said they can’t expect even close to the same numbers as out east). The stadium construction legislation has already been signed into law anyhow, and the State is making a ton of dough off the electronic pulltabs. Again, this is nothing but an excuse for brain dead Packer fans to type the words “LA Vikings”.

  22. I am so sick and tired of politicians acting like they care about the common man. They say stuff like this all the time in order to appease voters and get re-elected. I dont agree with games played over in London but my Dolphins did it a few years ago, the Pats and Rams this year. Someone has to do it so why not the Vikings, must be another liberal state hard up for cash so they will bash anyone that gets in the way of raising it.

  23. As for playing in London, I don’t have a big issue with it. During the next few years its going to be a mess around the construction area (at least until they play at TCF) so it’s no loss. The seat fee came from a survey the team sent to season ticket holder’s only to guage its support. The response has been overwhelming bad. The team will end up dropping the idea.

  24. I know this is how business is done in today’s NFL, however I have to say that adding a $5000 fee to my season ticket package would make it impossible for me to purchase tickets.

  25. The argument is about that the Vikings want a state board to sell the PSLs, thus avoid taxes. If the Vikings sell them the state would generate tax revenue on the sale. The governor says he will work to prevent that.

    The London game are in question because the agreement calls for only 3 games outside the area in a fifteen year period. Vikings are claiming these games don’t count because they were agreed too before the stadium agreement is final.

    As for Wilf getting bad end of the deal because he didn’t get his prime location, well if he didn’t public money he would of had his location.

  26. Even though my Bills might be in a similar boat someday, I’m against taxpayer dolloars going to build stadiums for billionaire owners. They provide little economic benefit for the community aamount to nothing more than corporate welfare.

  27. L.A. resident here, waiting to buy my L.A. AP Vikings jersey to go along side my great Lakers Kobe jersey 🙂

  28. I also see people on this page getting hot and bothered because Dayton is a “Liberal” and Minnesota is a “Liberal State”. If you hate “liberals” and love fiscal responsibly so darn much, try nominating a fiscal conservative that doesn’t have their social issues trapped in the 19th century.

    If you can find one.

  29. since when can the government dictate what and how much a private enterprise charges…… How much control do they want?? Just because the made a donation to the building doesn’t give them any control of the operation. Blue states never fail to amaze me…

  30. whatjusthapped says:
    Nov 13, 2012 12:57 PM
    LA isn’t interested in the Vikings, they are holding out for a pro football team.
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    Why? So that they can ignore it like every other team they’ve had out there?

  31. azarkhan says:
    Nov 13, 2012 12:01 PM
    What is this rhetoric about “rich” Minnesotans vs “regular” Minnesotans? What is that fool talking about?
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    He’s talking about himself versus the rest of us schlubs.

  32. How do you think Governor Dayton will stop this? Maybe he will use his time machine to go back in time? The stadium is law. Dayton has no power in stopping this. This is why we live in American, where people can’t change things on a whim. I 100% agree with Dayton and he is using the editorial as a way in shaming the vikings. Maybe you should go back and spend some time refreshing yourself on the law.

  33. Typical liberal politician telling a business owner how he can spend the money he’s entitiled to earn. I get the london thing but telling a corporation how they can raise revenues to pay their bills is communist. BTW, wouldn’t it be a rich people’s stadium if only zygi paid for it with the others coming from all the people who pay taxes in minnesota and normally the top 5% pay about 80 percent of all taxes….

    Don’t worry minnesota with our government thinking this way and football players no longer allowed to practice and be hit none of us will have the money or want to watch football at stadiums anymore..

  34. rmosss says:
    Nov 13, 2012 11:26 AM
    If they move to L.A. they would have to drop the Vikings name. Sorta like what happened to the Oilers and North Stars.

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    Yeah, just like when the Minneapolis Lakers moved to LA. Oh, wait…

  35. azarkhan says:
    Nov 13, 2012 12:01 PM
    What is this rhetoric about “rich” Minnesotans vs “regular” Minnesotans? What is that fool talking about?
    _____
    He’s trying to divide the citizens along economic status lines and get them to fight each other. It’s also called wealth-envy and class warfare. Same bull that’s been shoveled by politicians since 1860, when the politicians used wealth-envy and class warfare to get the 16th amendment passed so it would be lawful for the government to steal part of your paycheck (they called it an income tax). Nothing has changed in 150 years.

  36. Dear fans of Vikings (and any other team needing a new stadium):

    The PSL is our fault. We started it. I wish we hadn’t, but we’re all stuck with them now. Please accept our apologies.

    Sincerely,
    Panthers fans

  37. Have we lost all perspective on what a free market is? If the demand is there, prices will rise. That’s not unfair. In fact, it’s exactly the opposite. It’s completely fair. When the price exceeds the demand, price will drop. Just because you or I can’t afford it anymore doesn’t make it unfair.

    ________________________________

    About 51.5% of the voting public has lost all perspective on what a free market is.

  38. Absolutely nobody likes losing home dates to the silly London game. Since they’re not going to stop the overseas games, the next best thing would be for the NFL to arrange a big event to fill that empty date. Hold it at the stadium, the workers all get paid, concessions are sold, area restaurants and businesses would still benefit from spillover traffic, etc. Maybe a fan appreciation thing where former greats are honored, build it around youth games and community events.

    But right now the NFL basically thumbs its nose at the fans and cities who lose that home date.

  39. Here we go. Hope and change. ” rich Minnesotanns”. Liberal Socialism is alive and in the U.S. hope and extra change in equal quantities for every member of mother Russia I mean America.

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