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Dayton says Vikings weren’t “forthright” on stadium PSLs

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The PSL soap opera continues to unfold in Minnesota.

Governor Mark Dayton, who sent a nasty letter to owners Zygi and Mark Wilf on Tuesday regarding the team’s plan to use Personal Seat Licenses to help fund the franchise’s $477 million share of the new stadium, overlooked the fact that the stadium bill that he signed into law allows the team to use that device.

Per the Minneapolis Star Tribune, Dayton said Thursday that the team wasn’t “forthright” regarding the possibility of “hefty” PSLs, and that Dayton believes that stadium authority will prevent the team from passing along significant charges to the season-ticket holders.

Still, the document says what it says.  And if the Vikings believe the open market will support the payment of significant PSLs, which can be bought and sold like stock by season-ticket holders, then the Vikings have the right to try to use them.

If it works, it works.  If it doesn’t, then the Vikings will have to come up with other ways to pay for the stadium.

Regardless, Dayton agreed to a stadium deal that allows the device, and it just seems goofy for him to be complaining about it now.

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37 Responses to “Dayton says Vikings weren’t “forthright” on stadium PSLs”
  1. kmart0319 says: Nov 15, 2012 1:09 PM

    He should just use the Pelosi line of “We had to approve the bill to see what was in it”. Dayton is a disgrace to MN but do you expect from a state that voted in “The Body” as a governor and a comedian as a senator?

  2. titogetmesometissue says: Nov 15, 2012 1:10 PM

    Dear Mr. Wilf — If $477M of taxpayer money and a $300M “loan” from the NFL that you will never pay back is not enough for you, sell the team back to the gang of 10 and get out. We don’t need you.

  3. lightcleric says: Nov 15, 2012 1:12 PM

    Read stuff before you sign it next time???

  4. lessfrazier says: Nov 15, 2012 1:16 PM

    Just when you think Mark Dayton can’t say anything dumber, his lips keep moving.

    He signed the agreement; he needs to just shut up. He can’t change it now. Typical dummycrat – didn’t read what he signed.

  5. samanthasteeleruinedmyqb says: Nov 15, 2012 1:16 PM

    I think everyone is overreacting to this PSL thing. The Vikings just sent out a survey to research how PSLs would go over. If they do it, it would obviously be just on the most desirable seats and suites. They have not announced that they will require “hefty” PSLs on season tickets. The market wouldn’t sustain that so it won’t happen.

  6. racksie says: Nov 15, 2012 1:18 PM

    I’m not surprised that Zygi is trying to pass his share of the bill on to the fans. His next move, when fan outrage makes the PSL plan a bad idea, will br asking the state for more money. Which is why Dayton is going public like this. It’s basically a statement to Zygi saying “don’t come to the state for more money”.

  7. rmzthefirst says: Nov 15, 2012 1:21 PM

    Ha ha ha…. I never read anything I sign either…!

  8. barroomhero80 says: Nov 15, 2012 1:27 PM

    Someone shut him up

  9. faultylogic29 says: Nov 15, 2012 1:28 PM

    Just another slimy politician pandering to anti-stadium voters. He knows exactly what the team was planning to do when he agreed to the deal.

    I was hoping to get a break from this type of stuff after the election.

  10. dukemarc says: Nov 15, 2012 1:34 PM

    titogetmesometissue says:
    Nov 15, 2012 1:10 PM
    Dear Mr. Wilf — If $477M of taxpayer money and a $300M “loan” from the NFL that you will never pay back is not enough for you, sell the team back to the gang of 10 and get out. We don’t need you.
    ——————-

    So it’s Ziggy’s fault that Dayton and the other goofballs in St. Paul didn’t take the time to read and vet the agreement?

  11. titogetmesometissue says: Nov 15, 2012 1:52 PM

    @dukemarc

    I have a friend that works at city hall and know for a fact that it was understood that the SBLs would only be put in place on the luxury suites. Now, they are trying to broaden that to regular seats – who knows what they will try to pull next. Dayton is just calling them to the carpet to keep them in line. I support him fully.

  12. shiftyvision says: Nov 15, 2012 1:54 PM

    To be expected. Dayton is drunk… constantly. Just listen to the man try and “speak”. Bobble head slurring empty suit…

  13. gtodriver says: Nov 15, 2012 1:56 PM

    I’m a season ticket holder and a Minnesota taxpayer. I knew the bill allowed for the sale of PSLs. It was well reported in the media- any informed person should have known it also

    Dayton should have been well informed prior to signing the bill.

    What we have here is a lousy governor grandstanding for the liberal masses that voted for him.

    PSLs are not new to Minnesota. The Twins Target Field has sections that had PSLs.

    I fully expect some sections in this new stadium to have PSLs.

  14. drbob117 says: Nov 15, 2012 2:06 PM

    You mean the way the state wasn’t forthright when they built stadiums/arenas for the Gophers, Wild, Twins and T-Wolves over the last decade or so, but not for the Vikings? The way you weren’t forthright when the Vikings had a deal in another county and you insisted the stadium be in Minneapolis against the teams wishes? The way you tried to piggyback a road project on to the cost of the Vikings Arden Hills location to rig the process toward Minneapolis? You are right though, they shouldn’t have issued PSLs , they should have moved the team when they had the chance.

  15. mtheparrothead says: Nov 15, 2012 2:11 PM

    Translation: I didn’t read what I signed. Sounds about right for a politician

  16. minnesconsin says: Nov 15, 2012 2:13 PM

    Also — everyone saying Dayton should’ve known about this in advance. Are you really that dumb? Of course Dayton “knew about it.” We all did. He’s angry because the team is taking a proactive stance on this as if they have the authority to introduce PSLS, which they do not — only the stadium commission has that authority.

  17. ruvelligwebuike says: Nov 15, 2012 2:24 PM

    Dayton is an idiot, but so is Zygi. Did he forget he was in Minnesota? Good luck selling PSL’s. His primary focus should be selling tickets period if they lose two in a row on any given year.

  18. pack13queens0 says: Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM

    Just move them to Los Angeles where they belong & they’ll actually be appreciated. Over 40% of NFL fans in Minnesota are Packer fans anyway.

  19. thegreatgabbert says: Nov 15, 2012 2:58 PM

    Thou shalt not be unforthright towards thy brethren.

  20. thegreatgabbert says: Nov 15, 2012 3:00 PM

    Governor Dayton remains a huge Brett Favre fan to this day and is often seen at public gatherings wearing the #4 Viking jersey.

  21. jimbo75025 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:05 PM

    pack13queens0 says:
    Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM
    Just move them to Los Angeles where they belong & they’ll actually be appreciated.
    ————
    So by “appreciated” you mean that large ticket prices will be paid by those who “want to be seen” at the game for a few years until the novelty wears off and/or a few losing seasons are in the books? What then?

  22. contra74 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:06 PM

    pack13queens0 says:Nov 15, 2012 2:33 PM

    Just move them to Los Angeles where they belong & they’ll actually be appreciated. Over 40% of NFL fans in Minnesota are Packer fans anyway.
    —-
    Again, why do they belong there? Lets see if you can honestly answer that without the packer shades on. This will be interesting.

  23. vikesandravens78 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:27 PM

    That’s our governor… But then again, what should I expect living in a state that would elect Al Fraken as a senator?

  24. vikingfan1971 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:29 PM

    pack13queens
    the team belongs here in MN you are just scared of the competition the vikings put on you guys,
    I will never become a packer fan if the team ended up moving,
    and for the other part they are appreciated here in MN

  25. samanthasteeleruinedmyqb says: Nov 15, 2012 3:39 PM

    titogetmesometissue says:Nov 15, 2012 1:52 PM

    I have a friend that works at city hall and know for a fact that it was understood that the SBLs would only be put in place on the luxury suites.
    _______

    I find that very hard to believe. You have a friend?

  26. icecubeusedtobeangry says: Nov 15, 2012 3:40 PM

    He wont answer the question, he will just log into his second account and agree with himself.

  27. green41563 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:40 PM

    That super-rich industrialists like Zygi Wilf are able to soak the public coffers for hundreds of millions of dollars to fund their private enterprises is ostensive of everything that’s wrong with this country.

    If you’re a conservative, then you can’t believe that public money should be used for private business. And if you’re a liberal, you can’t think that public money should be given to the top one percent. Point being: this sort of thing has virtually no public support but gets rammed through by greedy owners and corrupt pols.

  28. millerhour says: Nov 15, 2012 3:41 PM

    The psl’s were going to be in place wherever they “used them to pay for their contribution” or not. Its not like the wilfs said “oh crap, we don’t want to pay for this, we’ll stick it to the consumer” if they wouldn’t have allowed them in minny the Vikings would shortly be calling somewhere else home. Newsflash, people don’t make business decisions where they will eventually net a loss…

  29. dukemarc says: Nov 15, 2012 3:59 PM

    titogetmesometissue says:
    Nov 15, 2012 1:52 PM
    @dukemarc

    I have a friend that works at city hall and know for a fact that it was understood that the SBLs would only be put in place on the luxury suites. Now, they are trying to broaden that to regular seats – who knows what they will try to pull next. Dayton is just calling them to the carpet to keep them in line. I support him fully.
    ——————————–

    Of course you support him fully, his tax payer funded assistance programs are probably supporting you fully.

  30. titogetmesometissue says: Nov 15, 2012 5:35 PM

    @dukmarc

    Why am I not surprised that you don’t support helping out the lesser advantaged, but will bend over and hand over hundreds of millions to a billionaire?

    I love my Vikes, but would rather owners, who reap the benefits when they sell the team (not to mention all the millions of dollards in profit they make by running the team), pay for their own ventures without taking corporate welfare. Zygi is obviously a much better owner than Red, but he got a good deal from Dayton, the city of Minneapolis, and the legislature and he should honor the spirt of that deal. Which included limited SBLs from the luxury suites and not regular season ticket holders.

  31. vikingamericann says: Nov 15, 2012 5:51 PM

    Free market you offer PSLs on top of season tickets COSTCO offers 70 inch HD TV. I know where my money is going.

  32. faultylogic29 says: Nov 15, 2012 6:19 PM

    For the record, I’m a Packers fan, and I absolutely cannot stand when other Packers fans say the Vikings should move out of Minnesota. The thought of having a rivalry with the “Los Angeles Vikings” is terrible. I’d rather hate a team that’s nearby.

    Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, I can think of probably a dozen teams with fans worse, specifically more fair weather, than the Vikings. Vikings fans just tend to be very ‘woe is me’.

  33. pack13queens0 says: Nov 15, 2012 7:31 PM

    I will explain why they belong in Los Angeles. Because there, sellouts & a waiting list for season tickets would be guaranteed. Minnesota doesn’t have real football fans that LA does. Vikings are the only team in the NFL that needs corporate help selling out games. The other 31 teams all have no problem at all.

  34. vikingsgohard says: Nov 15, 2012 9:17 PM

    pack13queens0 <—what an idiot !!.. All the other teams have no problem selling out ??… Chargers,dolphins,Jags just to name a few that have. Been close too if not actually blacked out Goof!

  35. pack13queens0 says: Nov 16, 2012 12:48 AM

    No I’m pretty sure they’ve never had home games blacked out before. Vikings are the only team in the NFL that ever has.

  36. hardrockfootballfanatic says: Nov 16, 2012 3:46 PM

    There have been other teams who have had home games blacked out before.

    I wish the league would go on and just add two more franchises so other cities wouldn’t be held hostage so much by claiming they were considering Los Angeles who couldn’t support the teams they had in the past.

    I have no doubts the Vikings weren’t “forthright” because most of the taxpayers in Minnesota weren’t in favor of a new stadium to begin with. Here’s an idea for you. Get rid of the roof and you save millions of dollars right there.

  37. Frazier28/7 says: Nov 16, 2012 6:59 PM

    Wow you Packer fans have problems, and your fake 9 championships.

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