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Wade Phillips: Difference in fines evidence of unfair system

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Texans defensive coordinator Wade Phillips said Thursday he didn’t understand the discrepancy in the NFL’s fine system, considering the vastly different amounts from a pair of hits he saw firsthand.

Phillips said he didn’t get that Texans linebacker Tim Dobbins was fined three times as much as Jets guard Matt Slauson was for a cut block which ended the season of Texans linebacker Brian Cushing.

I don’t understand the fine system when Cushing gets put out for the season on an illegal play — I know Dobbins hit the guy,” Phillips said, via Tania Ganguli of the Houston Chronicle. “I  understand that. It’s his first offense. [Matt] Schaub got hit way worse than that in the ballgame. . . .

“I just don’t see the fairness in all of it. It’s only defensive players basically. If a linebacker gets put out for the season, it’s 10,000 dollars, but it’s 30,000 if the quarterback gets hit.”

Phillips also pointed out that because Cutler continued to play, it was hard to pinpoint that Dobbins’ hit caused his concussion.

“And, the guy made an 11-yard run the next play  and tried to run over our defensive back and then he played the next series and had a 19-yard run in that series. When did he get a concussion? You can’t say he got it then for sure,” Phillips said. “

“When he’s throwing the ball, you still have to be careful. You can’t determine if he’s one yard or two yards across the line of scrimmage. . . . If he’s in a throwing motion, we’ve got to be careful. I’m not saying the guy shouldn’t be fined, I’m just saying I don’t understand the fine system. Because it’s on national TV and the Chicago quarterback got a concussion, now it’s a big fine.”

In a roundabout way, Phillips was echoing the sentiments of Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher earlier in the day, who said cut blocks such as the one that ended Cushing’s season are as big a deal as concussions.

But what both also have to know is that there aren’t nearly 4,000 players suing the league for cut block-related health problems right now.

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19 Responses to “Wade Phillips: Difference in fines evidence of unfair system”
  1. fuglyflorio says: Nov 15, 2012 3:07 PM

    Obviously someone hasn’t been paying attention to all the controversy surrounding concussions.

  2. comeonnowguys says: Nov 15, 2012 3:11 PM

    Phillips also pointed out that because Cutler continued to play, it was hard to pinpoint that Dobbins’ hit caused his concussion.

    That’s almost as ridiculous as Dobbins saying, “He ran into me.”

  3. cwwgk says: Nov 15, 2012 3:13 PM

    Good to see he agrees that Dobbins deserved to be fined.

  4. panamon says: Nov 15, 2012 3:13 PM

    When the player that targets a QB’s head and knocks him out says it was good that happened and discusses his “knockout punch” things may not be the exact same situation.

    It’s not comparing injuries, and absolutely not national TV. Wade should know what his players are saying before drawing an arbitrary conclusion with a strong lack of evidence.

  5. billhicks666 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:15 PM

    Preach, Wade! You’re absolutely right!

  6. mcoomer146 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:17 PM

    Any injury is bad but not all require a fine. Cutler played after his concussion but the Texans were fined. In all truth, the Bears staff should have been fined for not recognizing it.

  7. jjackwagon says: Nov 15, 2012 3:34 PM

    Wade…you are not far removed from being an abysmal failure as the HC in Dallas. You should probably just shut up and coach for awhile.
    Outside Houston, nobody really cares what you think.

  8. htown1035 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:37 PM

    fuglyflorio says: Nov 15, 2012 3:07 PM

    Obviously someone hasn’t been paying attention to all the controversy surrounding concussions.

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    Obviously you didn’t read closely – he’s saying that if the fine was so large because it caused a concussion, then why was Cutler still in the game and running and throwing and looking fine for the next few plays. He doesn’t disagree with the fine or that the hit was illegal, just the amount of the fine.

  9. htown1035 says: Nov 15, 2012 3:39 PM

    jjackwagon says: Nov 15, 2012 3:34 PM

    Wade…you are not far removed from being an abysmal failure as the HC in Dallas. You should probably just shut up and coach for awhile.
    Outside Houston, nobody really cares what you think.
    =============================

    Obviously you do since you posted about it. Obviously someone does since an article was written about it.
    Why bother posting at all?

  10. htowntexan says: Nov 15, 2012 3:53 PM

    Amen. It happened on National TV to one of the leagues darlings (the Bears), so the commish had to say something big. The league could care less about teams and players outside of the mid/upper east coast, Chicago, and San Fran.

  11. 34sweetness says: Nov 15, 2012 3:54 PM

    When did Schaub get hit “way worse” than the cheap shot Donbins took on Cutler?

  12. juanhughjazz says: Nov 15, 2012 3:55 PM

    The NFL has been like this for years. Some teams deserve to get calls and some don’t. Some players deserve to get protected, some don’t.

    All you have to do is look at the discrepancy between the leagues reaction on the Cutler headshot and the Calvin Johnson headshot.

    It’s discouraging(especially because I root for a team that hasn’t been anointed deserving.

  13. ncm42 says: Nov 15, 2012 4:01 PM

    “Texans linebacker Tim Dobbins was fined three times as much as Jets guard Matt Slauson was for a cut block which ended the season of Texans linebacker Brian Cushing.”

    Why would Dobbins be fined for Slauson’s hit on Cushing?

  14. prmpft says: Nov 15, 2012 4:10 PM

    that and maybe the arbitrary attempt to dismantle an entire franchise based on here-say evidence. yeah, i’d say there’s a chance that fairness has no place in this commissioner’s office.

  15. sb44champs says: Nov 15, 2012 4:16 PM

    “But what both also have to know is that there aren’t nearly 4,000 players suing the league for cut block-related health problems right now.”
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    You don’t have to convince the Who Dat Nation, we know first hand…. It cost us our head coach for the season!!!

  16. sb44champs says: Nov 15, 2012 4:20 PM

    “But what both also have to know is that there aren’t nearly 4,000 players suing the league for cut block-related health problems right now.”
    ============================
    Just because the NFL dropped the ball with past concussions shouldn’t mean they drop the hammer even harder on some players/teams for their own negligence…

  17. contraisloosebuthole says: Nov 15, 2012 5:51 PM

    Wasn’t Cutler past the line of scrimmage. Isn’t he a runner at that point?

  18. chi01town says: Nov 15, 2012 6:23 PM

    phillips knew Dobbins would get fined so why pretend like the 30,000
    hurt so much? and if it did then that
    should tell Dobbins to stop launching him self at QB’s cause that means he dont make the money to pay for it.

  19. texasdyack says: Nov 15, 2012 8:26 PM

    an abysmal failure? so thats why he had a winning record in dallas…

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