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Bill Belichick takes some heat for Rob Gronkowski’s injury

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Patriots All-Pro tight end Rob Gronkowski suffered a broken arm on the extra point that gave New England its 59th point in Sunday’s 59-24 win over Indianapolis. That has some people asking: Why did Bill Belichick have Gronkowski in the game?

Longtime Boston sports columnist Ron Borges made the point on Comcast SportsNet New England that Belichick’s use of such an important player as Gronkowski on such an unimportant play as an extra point late in the fourth quarter of a game in which the Patriots are leading by 34 points is a mistake.

“I’ve never understood some of these decisions that get made, to use some of these guys on special teams,” Borges said. “Why are you doing this? I don’t get it. . . . I’ve never understood it. It’s very head-scratching. If it were me I wouldn’t have him on extra points, period.”

If whoever the Patriots put on the extra point team in Gronkowski’s absence over the next few weeks misses a block, and the Patriots have an extra point blocked because of it, then perhaps Belichick would be vindicated. But it seems awfully unlikely that Gronkowski’s absence would hurt the Patriots on special teams. What will hurt the Patriots is that they’re now going to be without one of their best players, probably for a month or two.

In fairness to Belichick, however, Gronkowski is a good blocker, and it makes sense to have him on the field goal unit for that reason, and teams use the same players on extra points as they do on field goals. You could argue that Gronkowski should be pulled from field goals and extra points when the game is no longer in doubt, but Belichick is far from the only coach who would simply leave in the same extra-point personnel that he’d been using all game, no matter the score.

Belichick might, however, be the only coach in the NFL who would have his starting quarterback throwing passes well into the fourth quarter with a four-touchdown lead. Tom Brady stayed in the game even after the Patriots went up 45-17 in the fourth quarter and put it out of reach, and Brady completed a 13-yard pass to Wes Welker with five minutes remaining in the game, with the Patriots leading 52-24. In my own opinion, having Brady risking an injury by throwing a pass late in the fourth quarter with the Patriots up by 28 is more egregious than leaving Gronkowski on the field for an extra point.

But Belichick doesn’t care about my opinion, Borges’ opinion or any other opinion. He has always had an unusual approach to blowouts, in that he’d rather step on the opponent’s throat than pull his starters and give his second-stringers some live game action. That’s his right, and even Gronkowski’s injury probably isn’t going to change his mind.

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  1. packfntk says: Nov 19, 2012 11:27 AM

    I don’t care if he is a set blocking TE for extra points. You are up by that much, get your studs off the field and on the bench drinking hot cocoa.

  2. blue18hutthutt says: Nov 19, 2012 11:30 AM

    Karma.

  3. nogoodell says: Nov 19, 2012 11:31 AM

    I’ll play devil’s advocate.. What if he’s not out there and kicker gets hit and breaks a leg?

  4. marima07 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:34 AM

    It’s a bogus presumption. All NFL teams leave in their same PAT units, despite a big lead, because they don’t have a second-team PAT unit to substitute. It was one of those fluke injuries.

    Headline should be: Borges seizes any opportunity he can (no matter how bogus) to rip Belichick.

  5. toledoohoh says: Nov 19, 2012 11:34 AM

    You fail to mention that Gronk wasn’t involved in the offensive series prior to the extra point. It seems an important point to leave out.

  6. kacapaco says: Nov 19, 2012 11:35 AM

    This is stupid. He is a tough footballer who was there for relatively simple job of protecting PAT. Injuries are part of the game and those who say ‘he shouldn’t be there’ are Morons.

  7. heyitsmejosh says: Nov 19, 2012 11:36 AM

    the patriots have let teams back in games late all season and have struggled on offense in the 4th. 2 of their loses they had a pretty good lead going into the 4th and blew. Belichick wanted the team to play a full 60 minutes because they havent yet this season. thats the reason they were all still in there.

    i dont see anyone bashing the colts for keeping their starters playing in a game that was obviously lost, what if andrew luck got hurt?

  8. mazblast says: Nov 19, 2012 11:37 AM

    Arrogance. Pure arrogance. Someday some DC is going to retalitate with a late-game play against the Patriots offense called “Go for Brady’s knees”.

  9. jagsfan1 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:37 AM

    Ok…come on with it Pats fans…let’s hear all your outrage that ANYONE has the NERVE to second guess the recent 2 Time Super Bowl Loser.

  10. marima07 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:37 AM

    I don’t care if he is a set blocking TE for extra points. You are up by that much, get your studs off the field and on the bench drinking hot cocoa.
    ———————
    O-linemen are extremely valuable to a team’s success, but they have to play despite the score – and in fact they have to play harder when a backup QB is in, to protect him. So that puts them even more at risk. Studs play all positions, not just TE, WR or RB.

  11. justintuckrule says: Nov 19, 2012 11:38 AM

    It’s amazing how we hold these coaches in such high regard for being “smart”. Even if the PAT gets blocked, what, the Pats win by 38 instead of 39? Dumb.

    Here’s another one I’ll never get…..calling your final timeout 4 seconds before the 2 min. warning hits.

    Last night….3rd down upcoming and Tomlin calls T.O. at 2:04. To me, all this does is guarantee that Balt will have an open playbook to pick up the first because even if they run or pass, the clock will stop. Smart strategy would be to keep your last t.o., lose the measly 4 secs to the 2 m.w., and force Balt to make the decision of running the ball to force Pitt to use its last t.o. or pass but now risk that a dropped pass will stop the clock and leave Pitt with a final t.o.

    Am I the only one who has thought this??

  12. joetoronto says: Nov 19, 2012 11:38 AM

    “In my own opinion, having Brady risking an injury by throwing a pass late in the fourth quarter with the Patriots up by 28 is more egregious than leaving Gronkowski on the field for an extra point.”

    Of course, but both are wrong and two wrongs don’t make one right.

    Brady, Gronk and others shouldn’t have been out there late in the game, up by 4 TD’s, period.

  13. bobothegreatest says: Nov 19, 2012 11:38 AM

    You get a new kicker!

    Bobo

  14. Stiller43 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:39 AM

    I hate BB, but this is dumb. He’s been on at least 150+ fg and pat attempts in his nfl career, and nothing has happened.

  15. jetblackninja says: Nov 19, 2012 11:39 AM

    Belichick Isteaching the team to grab and shake, it’s late in the season and you need to learn to finish teams off. The patriots have sucked late in games this season and he needed to get to end

  16. nflofficeadmin says: Nov 19, 2012 11:39 AM

    What’s more frequent an injury on a PAT try or a fake field goal/PAT. …Bill is right on this one..

  17. enasty610 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:40 AM

    Nogoodell that’s a joke right? I’m pretty sure anyone with common sense would rather lose a replaceable kicker then the best te in football. Good old belicheat just is a erogant ass he always runs up the score and risks his players. How many superbowl victories since the got caught cheating??????? 0

  18. justintuckrule says: Nov 19, 2012 11:40 AM

    nogoodell says:
    Nov 19, 2012 11:31 AM
    I’ll play devil’s advocate.. What if he’s not out there and kicker gets hit and breaks a leg?
    —————————-
    Then the result would be that the more valuable polock would still be healthy.

  19. azarkhan says: Nov 19, 2012 11:41 AM

    Borges who? People can whine all they want. Belichick couldn’t care less, and with his record of wins and Super Bowl appearances, he doesn’t have to.

  20. Akula says: Nov 19, 2012 11:41 AM

    It should say ” long time Belicheck hater ” anything Borges has to say about Belicheck is tainted beyond all repair. Anyone with half a brain about Boston sports knows that very well….as I am sure PFT does.

  21. 2dollarpbrs says: Nov 19, 2012 11:42 AM

    Has Borges ever wrote an article that didn’t criticize Bill Bellicheck?

  22. phillyfan63 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:42 AM

    The answer is simple and I can’t believe both of you missed the point…Gronkowski is a matchup nightmare and should the patriots ever fake an extra point/field goal, throwing the ball up to him would be the best possible play, and if you wait until then to put him in, the other team will notice

  23. tommyjcaps says: Nov 19, 2012 11:43 AM

    Come on…

    Injuries are extremely rare on XP or FG…I totally understand questioning why Welker or Brady were in on offense…but questioning why Gronk was in on an XP is just trying way to hard to be a monday morning QB. Hindsight is 20/20. Without knowing the outcome of the play there would have been zero reason for the Patriots to NOT have Gronk in.

  24. redzona says: Nov 19, 2012 11:43 AM

    No way Brady was coming out of that game. You know dang well he wanted Luck to know, get your Tebow on.

  25. jjackwagon says: Nov 19, 2012 11:44 AM

    ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY BELICHEAT…Do not question his decisions!!!

    SILENCE…INFIDELS!!!!

    He does these things because he is smarter than everyone!!

  26. wwwfugu says: Nov 19, 2012 11:45 AM

    Dude devoured the Colts, but left one little scrap of meat and what do you know, the vultures are fighting over it.

    That’s F%$king hilarious.

  27. whatnojets says: Nov 19, 2012 11:45 AM

    Bellicheck is just a plain old JERK!!

    Hope the lose all the remaining games!!!

  28. bigsuede says: Nov 19, 2012 11:46 AM

    LOL- There are ONLY 46 players active every game!!! What is the coach to do- it isnt like there are backups upon backups waiting to come in- this isnt college football.

    Personally I think the whole 53 person roster should be able to play. Why limit teams?

  29. Patskrieg dot com says: Nov 19, 2012 11:46 AM

    “marima07 says:
    Nov 19, 2012 11:34 AM
    Headline should be: Borges seizes any opportunity he can (no matter how bogus) to rip Belichick.”

    ^ Nailed it.

  30. folkcrusader says: Nov 19, 2012 11:46 AM

    Belicheat loves to keep his foot on the gas even when the game is long over. There are pros and cons to this approach the most obvious of which is you don’t let teams back in to the game. One con is people can get hurt on meaningless plays.

    On the up side they guaranteed a win. On the down side, they are a noticeably different team without Gronk.

  31. justintuckrule says: Nov 19, 2012 11:46 AM

    cont…from my previous comment re: timeout at 2:04.

    Also….if Balt gets the first down, game over. However, if Pitt holds its t.o., even if Balt picks up the 1st down at the 2 m.w., Pitt can get the ball back by using its last t.o. on the first play (albeit, they’ll get it back with about 20 secs after Balt runs on 2nd and 3rd). Still, that small opportunity is better than nothing….all for the sake of saving 4 seconds.

  32. skito13 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:47 AM

    Billy Bel will get his…
    No one likes having their nose rubbed in it.
    No excuses pure attitude.

  33. dabears7190 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:47 AM

    When the defense no longer has anything to play for and the offense is attempting to further embarrass you, what else is there to play for the defense to do except to possibly injure someone on the opposing offense, whether accidental or not so accidental.

    The smart play is to get your starters off the field and run the clock.

    When the smoke clears, the 40 point victory is not what will be remembered when Brady gets his leg swept.

  34. patsfan22 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:48 AM

    Where do we stop? Do we pull Welker, Jones, Spikes, Mayo and Wilfork too?

    I can understand taking the quarterback out if the game is over and the opposition is playing aggressively but do you pull the entire first string receiving corps/defense because you’re worried about them getting hurt?

    Gronkowski is an amazing blocker so he should be on the PAT team, throwing guys out on special teams that don’t usually play there is a recipe for disaster.

    This is football and injuries happen, it’s part of the game. I was a little surprised Brady was still out there late in the 4th quarter but as quoted later in the press conference “we’re not even close to where we want to be” so he probably wanted to work on some things.

  35. justrunit11 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:48 AM

    People fail to understand that this teams defense is so bad. Remember how buffalo almost came back last week? How about the JETS before?

  36. justintuckrule says: Nov 19, 2012 11:50 AM

    @phillyfan63 – The Earth must be off axis because I’ve never given props to a Philly fan, but your fake fg point about Gronk is an apt one. Nice work.

  37. billsin20xx says: Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM

    This year I have lost a ton of respect for Belicheck with his running up the score and not disciplining the dirty play of Mayo and Spikes.
    You can play the game as gentleman, you don’t have to be animals.

  38. grandpoopah says: Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM

    I was watching the end of the game and wondering whether someone might get hurt. This article didn’t even mention the fact that the Pats were up 28 points with 5 minutes to go and actually called a timeout inside the red zone in order to adjust their play call to what eventually turned into that Welker TD pass. At that point, the starters should have been on the bench, they should not have been calling timeouts, and they should not have been passing and trying to run up the score.

  39. hedleykow says: Nov 19, 2012 11:52 AM

    Belichick takes heat like the devil celebrates Christmas. He’s really not all that much into the amateur opinions and beliefs of others. Go ahead, bet against him!

  40. geniusfan says: Nov 19, 2012 11:53 AM

    “But Belichick doesn’t care about my opinion, Borges’ opinion or any other opinion.”

    Nor should he. He’s been to five Super Bowls with the Patriots he’s the best coach of his generation bar none. Borges hates Belichick’s guts you can’t take a column from him seriously.

    Every team has starters in on their extra point unit, there are only 46 active players on a game-day roster their is no such thing as a back up extra point team.

    But since it’s the Patriots and it’s an easy and lazy story for people to come up with people are going to make a big deal out of it.

  41. sinestrojoe says: Nov 19, 2012 11:53 AM

    For all of those arguing Gronk should have been in the game at that point…at what point do you take your studs out if it’s a blowout either way?

  42. footballfan58 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:53 AM

    Jagsfan1 . . . . . really???? You should be paying attention to your own team’s shortcomings. And to everyone with their panties in a bind over this – the Pat’s are realizing they have to play 60 minutes of football, not 30 or 45 or even 55, but 60. Get over it. I’m sure BB doesn’t care what you think.

  43. peytonsneck18 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:53 AM

    I wanna hit Bill and Tom brady in the face!!!!

  44. pats54 says: Nov 19, 2012 11:55 AM

    You actually care about what Ron Borges has to say? When he can take an NFL team to 5 Superbowls in 10 years maybe we should start to care. The Patriots will be fine. What makes Belichick a great coach is his ability to overcome obstacles such as this. Does it hurt to lose Gronk? Sure. But if anyone can elevate his players to overcome such a loss it’s Belichick. Now if the Patriots miss the playoffs because of this then have at him, however I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  45. patriotenvy says: Nov 19, 2012 11:59 AM

    I wanted to see them break the 60 point mark. It’s karma that this team keeps winning!

  46. all4patriots says: Nov 19, 2012 12:00 PM

    Brady completed a 13-yard pass to Welker only becuased it was 3rd and long.

    Why punt? Why trot your defense out there against all of the Colts starters?

    You move the chains and close it out. The other 8 plays on the last possessions were all runs

  47. tharoostah says: Nov 19, 2012 12:01 PM

    I’ll play devil’s advocate.. What if he’s not out there and kicker gets hit and breaks a leg?

    _____________________________________

    Then everything is fine and you just call Nate Kaeding or any one of the several free agent field goal kickers who are much closer in skill level to Stephen Gostkowski than Visanthe Shiancoe is to Rob Gronkowski.

  48. marcuswelby70 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:02 PM

    jagsfan1 says:
    Nov 19, 2012 11:37 AM
    Ok…come on with it Pats fans…let’s hear all your outrage that ANYONE has the NERVE to second guess the recent 2 Time Super Bowl Loser.

    ________________________________

    When was the last time the Jaguars PLAYED in a Super Bowl?

  49. flash1283 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:04 PM

    grandpoopah says: Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM

    I was watching the end of the game and wondering whether someone might get hurt. This article didn’t even mention the fact that the Pats were up 28 points with 5 minutes to go and actually called a timeout inside the red zone in order to adjust their play call to what eventually turned into that Welker TD pass. At that point, the starters should have been on the bench, they should not have been calling timeouts, and they should not have been passing and trying to run up the score.

    —–

    WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??

    maybe you better go back and watch the game!

    Welker did not have a TD in this game, and the last 2 Patriots TD’S scored on RUNNING plays.

    SO THIS “Pats were up 28 points with 5 minutes to go and actually called a timeout inside the red zone in order to adjust their play call to what eventually turned into that Welker TD pass” IS FALSE!!!!!

    It’s almost like you haters just make stuff up just so you have a reason to BITCH because its the Patriots!

    Did you come on here a few weeks ago and complain when Aron Rogers THREW 6 td’s vs the Texans?

  50. cervetta12 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:05 PM

    Pats are gunna lose thursday night and the JETS will start to rally culminating with TEBOW hoisting the Lombardi trophy while gazing into the heavens above, THANK YOU GOD!!

    Happy Thanks giving Beantown!

    J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

    -who’s the turkey now??

  51. marcuswelby70 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:05 PM

    Borges’ has an ax to grind when it comes to BB. Always has and always will…his comments get old in a hurry.

  52. sneakerhead11 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:06 PM

    Sounds likes some karma was served. Pats got what the deserved. No reason to keep the throttle down.

  53. frobaggins says: Nov 19, 2012 12:09 PM

    using ron borges as the source for belichick “catching heat”? if belichick saved two drowning children, borges would find a way to criticize him for it

  54. jjpt4540 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:12 PM

    Borges is still pissed Bill dumped Drew Bledsoe

  55. mrconnors says: Nov 19, 2012 12:13 PM

    To the Jaguars fan, at least the Patriots have played in a SB. The only time the Jags make the playoffs, they get destroyed by the Patriots.

  56. kindbass says: Nov 19, 2012 12:13 PM

    60 minutes.

    It’s the reason we ran out of gas at the end of the 2007 SB. Too many blowouts that season, the team wasn’t used to having to put in effort for a full 60 minutes.

  57. jboyxl73 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:18 PM

    These are the same Boston Blowhards that complained about the Pats not putting opponents away and playing with killer instinct Gronk shouldn’t have been out there but as far as Brady ? When u have blown 3 fourth quarter leads being up as much as 20 points to lose games close they won’t coast the last few series this season

  58. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:19 PM

    Ron Borges is one of the most utterly and totally discredited hacks ever to write in the Boston area.

    He personally hates Belichick and has criticized almost every important decision he’s ever made, every draft choice he’s ever taken and anything else he can find to grind about.

    He doesn’t even qualify as a journalist but is just a sad, pathetic little man who is intensely jealous of Belichik and obviously thinks he should be coaching the Pats and not Bill.

    There is no writer in the Boston area less respected by Pats fans who universally loathe him.

  59. kindbass says: Nov 19, 2012 12:21 PM

    billsin20xx says:
    Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM
    This year I have lost a ton of respect for Belicheck with his running up the score and not disciplining the dirty play of Mayo and Spikes.
    You can play the game as gentleman, you don’t have to be animals.

    ———————————————–

    Yeah, you can play as gentlemen and end up with the W-L record as the Bills. You want to watch “sporting gentlemen?” Then go watch golf or something,

  60. asox says: Nov 19, 2012 12:22 PM

    “Ok…come on with it Pats fans…let’s hear all your outrage that ANYONE has the NERVE to second guess the recent 2 Time Super Bowl Loser.”

    Dude – you’re a Jags fan, and you make fun of a team for making it to the Super Bowl and losing? Come on now . . .

  61. macaroniandcheese01 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:22 PM

    this injury won’t matter. the pats will finish the regular season with a great record as always. but like clockwork, at least since they got caught cheating, they will choke in the playoffs and disappoint their delusional fanbase.

  62. aljack88 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:22 PM

    aljack88 says:
    Nov 19, 2012 12:17 PM
    grandpoopah says:
    Nov 19, 2012 11:51 AM
    ………., the starters should have been on the bench, they should not have been calling timeouts, and they should not have been passing and trying to run up the score.
    ———————————————————-

    There’s not enough backups to replace all your starters.
    So you just run the ball? Take away Edelman’s 47 yd scamper and it put’s into light how effective their running game really was. So now you have a bunch of 3 and outs on offense and you have to punt the ball – kickoffs and punts result in more injuries than any other plays. The Pats get ripped for not scoring enough points in the 4th quarter of their recent games, making them closer than they should have been; and now they get ripped for scoring too many.

    Schiano gets praised for having his team stomping on the the winning team doing kneel downs during the final minutes of a game, “playing the full 60 minutes”. Even PFT gave the Bucs HC praise.

  63. kordogg says: Nov 19, 2012 12:27 PM

    I am sure Bill Belichick doesn’t care what any of us has to say. You don’t get to where he is at by not making alot of enemies. I am all for running up the score. If that team can score than they should. If you can’t keep them out of your endzone then you deserve to get routed. Just like the Wes Welker play in 2009 against the Texans in the beginning where he tore his ACL. That could have happened any play Gronkowski just so happened to break his forearm when the Patriots were up by 4 scores. Injures happen and teams have to move on. They are getting him back later but it’s better than not at all. Hope he heals up and is ready to play when the time comes.

  64. xxsweepthelegxx says: Nov 19, 2012 12:30 PM

    Someone brought up a good point earlier. Should we bash the Colts brass for marching Luck out there late in the 4th qtr in a blow out….their FRANCHISE QB….in obvious passing situations????

    Gimme a break people. Injuries happen, it’s football. This was a freak injury on a PAT, nothing more.

  65. billymc75 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:31 PM

    Fire him I dare ya

  66. azarkhan says: Nov 19, 2012 12:32 PM

    billsin20xx says: You can play the game as gentleman, you don’t have to be animals.

    You must be thinking of a different game, perhaps cricket? Nitschke, Butkus, Tatum, Lambert, Lewis, etc. were no gentlemen on the field, and they are a major reason why we love football.

  67. flash1283 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:33 PM

    macaroniandcheese01 says:
    Nov 19, 2012 12:22 PM
    this injury won’t matter. the pats will finish the regular season with a great record as always. but like clockwork, at least since they got caught cheating, they will choke in the playoffs and disappoint their delusional fanbase.


    Yeah what a “delusional fanbase” Boston has..

    Since 2001

    5 SB (3-2)
    2 World series championships
    1 NBA Championship
    1 Stanley Cup

  68. lawyermalloy says: Nov 19, 2012 12:40 PM

    The method to BBs madness in always running up the score is simple. By blowing out an opponent you might meet again in the playoffs, he’s hoping the opponents are thinking “revenge”, for the “run up” which takes some of the focus from their job.

  69. deeppurple13 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:40 PM

    I just wish it was Brady that went down, not Gronk. Nothing new here, Belicheck running up the score when the backups should be on the field. This is one of the main reasons I root for the Pats to lose every game. They have no honor, no class, and they have been caught cheating. May they never win another SB…

  70. blakeinfla says: Nov 19, 2012 12:41 PM

    Not a huge Pats fan but alot of teams have starters on their field goal/ extra point. Watch the Ravens blowout this year and the Bears too. People just wanna hate on the Pats. Love it when they point out 2 superbowl loses, id be happy if my team even made it there…..

  71. Beezo-Doo-doo-Zippity-Bop-bop-bop says: Nov 19, 2012 12:50 PM

    Yeah flash12, and your 2 World Series wins were totally PED fueled which is why the Sox are back to being the Cubs of the AL. Your entire sports culture is about cheating to win. Good thing for you the NHL doesn’t have good testing.

  72. flash1283 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:58 PM

    Beezo-Doo-doo-Zippity-Bop-bop-bop says: Nov 19, 2012 12:50 PM

    Yeah flash12, and your 2 World Series wins were totally PED fueled which is why the Sox are back to being the Cubs of the AL. Your entire sports culture is about cheating to win. Good thing for you the NHL doesn’t have good testing.

    You mean “totally PED fueled” like every other baseball team.

    How many Yankee players got busted?

    Get over it!

  73. roadtrip3500 says: Nov 19, 2012 12:59 PM

    When Belichick was the DC for Parcells in the 80s with the Giants, it was not unusual to use top players on special teams plays. Guys like Lawrence Taylor, Harry Carson, and George Martin would sometimes line up on FG plays as offensive blockers… so this practice is nothing new for Belichick.

    PATs may seem meaningless, especially in blowouts, but you don’t want to put the last guys on the roster out there just because it’s a 4-TD lead. Your kicker and holder are rule-protected like QBs, so they deserve the best blocking as well.

  74. tim2200 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:00 PM

    Gronk left the game after that PAT. What we don’t know is when he first hurt that arm. Play looked pretty harmless, was no helmet to arm contact.

  75. annes22 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:01 PM

    That was ridiculous, and having Brady still throwing to run up the score. Typical “Billy Boy” baloney.
    They got what they deserved, it wasn’t as if they didn’t have a massive lead. He was just trying to rub
    Andrew Luck’s nose in the dirt.

  76. richwizl says: Nov 19, 2012 1:02 PM

    I didn’t see the Patriots trying to run up the score on Indy; you just don’t foresee those big return TD’s the Pats gashed them with, coming. Next thing you know, a game that seemed relatively close, is a done deal.

  77. tim2200 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:03 PM

    macaroniandcheese01 says:
    Nov 19, 2012 12:22 PM
    this injury won’t matter. the pats will finish the regular season with a great record as always. but like clockwork, at least since they got caught cheating, they will choke in the playoffs and disappoint their delusional fanbase. –

    Other fan bases can only dream of the “delusions” the NE sports fans have faced over the past 10 years.

  78. superpats90 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:04 PM

    Or it could be the fact that this team needs to learn how to finish a game. Pulling them too early defeats the message of “60 minute football” and clearly they have been struggling..

  79. mahacnarblar says: Nov 19, 2012 1:10 PM

    As long as net points remain a tiebreaker it makes sense for Belichick to try and score as many points as possible when his team is on top. Imagine he pulled Brady, Gronk and other elite players at the start of the fourth quarter and the Pats miss the play-offs by 7 points. Unlikely scenario I know but its not impossible.

  80. hockeyflow33 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:18 PM

    Borges hates the Pats and Belichick so this isn’t surprising

  81. jm91rs says: Nov 19, 2012 1:20 PM

    I cannot justify Brady being out there for that, and at some point an angry defensive player will take a shot on him for this, but you guys act like there is another option for Gronk on PATs. Do you think there are enough players dressed to take all the valuable players off the field in blowouts? Should they have 11 scrubs that can play offense, defense, and special teams in blowouts?

    I’ll bash Belichick for other things, but this one is ridiculous. There are rarely ever injuries on PATs, so putting a guy out there for that is no big deal.

  82. flash1283 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:24 PM

    blakeinfla says:
    Nov 19, 2012 12:41 PM
    Not a huge Pats fan but alot of teams have starters on their field goal/ extra point. Watch the Ravens blowout this year and the Bears too. People just wanna hate on the Pats. Love it when they point out 2 superbowl loses, id be happy if my team even made it there…..

    ——

    NO…NO….

    You’re are not supposed to make totally rational comments if you’re not a Patriots fan!

  83. sullijo1 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:25 PM

    Karma strikes again

  84. tigerlilac says: Nov 19, 2012 1:38 PM

    Why was luck in the game late throwing the ball?

    Why was Freeney in the game late?

  85. zackattack006 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:39 PM

    That’s what you get for running up the scores.

  86. atxpatfan says: Nov 19, 2012 1:39 PM

    jagsfan1 says:Nov 19, 2012 11:37 AM

    Ok…come on with it Pats fans…let’s hear all your outrage that ANYONE has the NERVE to second guess the recent 2 Time Super Bowl Loser.

    —————————–

    From a Jags fan? That’s funny.

    But seriously, congrats on (almost) getting your 2nd win of the season.

  87. silasw33 says: Nov 19, 2012 1:41 PM

    Gronk is his best Cookie Monster voice
    “Me don’t need arm to catch football me use mouth to catch football.”

  88. belicheckisgod says: Nov 19, 2012 1:42 PM

    Everybody just loves to bash Belichick, how many starters did John Harbaugh pull last week when the Ravens steamrolled the Raiders 55-20? I’m pretty sure Flacco and many other starters played till the end. They even faked a field goal when the were up by 30+. Gronk could have just as easily broke his arm on the first play of the game yesterday. Football is a tough physical sport and that means people get hurt. Get over it and move on, just like I’m sure the Patriots have.

  89. atxpatfan says: Nov 19, 2012 1:59 PM

    As many others have already said, no Pats fan takes Borges seriously.

    This team was the laughing stock of the NFL for decades – Bill coaches them to 3 SB titles and all Borges can do is bash the guy incessantly.

    Belichick must’ve slept with his wife or something.

  90. giantssb42champs says: Nov 19, 2012 2:01 PM

    Karma is finally catching up to this mean spirited cheater.

  91. harrisonhits2 says: Nov 19, 2012 2:01 PM

    Another thing. This is professional football not 5 year old girls playing hopscotch. There is no such thing as running up a score.

    What do you want the Pats to do, politely walk up to Andrew Luck and hand him the ball back after he throws an INT ?

    Or the fact that the Pats D has occasionally over the years had some epic collapses and being up by 3 tds was not enough to hold on to the win.

    Or the fact that I’m sure BB knows that if he hammers the Colts from day 1 that Luck came in here it may take years for Luck to be able to play well there just like it did for Manning.

    The plaque for those who don’t take every advantage they can in the NFL is down the hall in the ladies room.

  92. atxpatfan says: Nov 19, 2012 2:02 PM

    zackattack006 says:Nov 19, 2012 1:39 PM

    That’s what you get for running up the scores.

    ——————————–

    Right…because the two things are clearly tied together.

    The only time players get injured is when you anger the “football gods.”

    Maybe Belichick forgot to sacrifice a chicken before the game?

  93. atxpatfan says: Nov 19, 2012 2:05 PM

    sullijo1 says:Nov 19, 2012 1:25 PM

    Karma strikes again
    ——————————-

    Deja vu strikes again, and again

  94. prosourcetalk says: Nov 19, 2012 2:09 PM

    Borges is a POS.

  95. scalfor3 says: Nov 19, 2012 2:15 PM

    “On a day when they could have had impact players David Terrell or Koren Robinson or the second best tackle in the draft Kenyatta Walker, they took Georgia defensive tackle Richard Seymour who had 1 1/2 sacks last year in the pass-happy SEC, and is too tall to play tackle at 6-6 and too slow to play defensive end. This genius move was followed by trading out of a spot where they could have gotten the last decent receiver in the draft Robert Ferguson and settled for tackle Matt Light, who will not help any time soon.”

    - Ron Borges the day after the 2001 NFL draft

  96. blutbaddenbill says: Nov 19, 2012 2:49 PM

    When you run up the score,you risk injuries! serves belacheat right!

  97. elitekane says: Nov 19, 2012 2:57 PM

    I understand people’s point about the score, but you wanna take every oppurtunity in every game to try and get better. You don’t get better by taking starters out of the game. You want your team to be able to play 60 minutes of good football every game. I support BB all the way, Gronk will come back strong.

  98. gizzmonic says: Nov 19, 2012 3:38 PM

    There are 31 other teams in the leage that would dump there present head coach/gm and surrender 3 first round picks to “steal” the hoodie from the patriots. Hate ALL you want, but dont lie to yourselves.. you know I’m right.

  99. jonahfalcon says: Nov 19, 2012 5:23 PM

    “If whoever the Patriots put on the extra point team in Gronkowski’s absence over the next few weeks misses a block, and the Patriots have an extra point blocked because of it, then perhaps Belichick would be vindicated.”

    Yeah. 58 points instead of 59. What a disaster. (rolling eyes)

  100. jonahfalcon says: Nov 19, 2012 5:24 PM

    “There are 31 other teams in the leage that would dump there present head coach/gm and surrender 3 first round picks to “steal” the hoodie from the patriots. Hate ALL you want, but dont lie to yourselves.. you know I’m right.”

    Uh huh. Yeah, the Giants really want Bill Belichick over Tom Coughlin. Riiiiiiiight. Because post-SpyGate, Belichick has won HOW many titles?

  101. kev86 says: Nov 19, 2012 6:41 PM

    Never saw a post by anyone complaining about this until now. Monday morning critics are weak.

  102. capecotton says: Nov 20, 2012 1:58 AM

    The day the Patriots start playing scared is the day they start losing. There have already been a number of cogent reasons why this is a non-issue so I’ll leave it as that.

    Borges is a known plagiarist who has always had an ax to grind against Belichick. This is nothing new from the Boston Sports Media’s biggest pukemerchant. (Actually, Felger holds that title.) It’s amazing that people can make money in the BSM doing nothing but second-guessing a Hall Of Famer and constantly predicting doom and gloom for the Patriots.

    If you wonder why Belichick seems so surly at every press conference, it might be because he’s constantly surrounded by talently vultures like Borges who can’t wait to lick up some scrap of fetid tissue to feel important for at least one more news cycle.

  103. 16x8equal49ers says: Nov 20, 2012 10:03 AM

    Belichick will follow Reid’s path after Brady has done retired.

  104. mitsuharumisawax9 says: Nov 21, 2012 3:16 PM

    People forget quickly. The Patriots have had a lot of fourth quarter blunders this year. In fact, their 3 losses have come by a combined 4 points. That means this team could be easily undefeated. This was Bill Belichick doing his job – coaching. What he was doing was teaching his team how to finish a game (which they did with unbelievable style last week). He isn’t out there to embarrass the other team. He is out there to teach his own team. To call this Kama is downright insulting.

  105. kylefitta says: Nov 21, 2012 3:30 PM

    People forget quickly. The Patriots have had a lot of fourth quarter blunders this year. In fact, their 3 losses have come by a combined 4 points. That means this team could be easily undefeated. This was Bill Belichick doing his job – coaching. What he was doing was teaching his team how to finish a game (which they did with unbelievable style last week). He isn’t out there to embarrass the other team. He is out there to teach his own team. To call this Kama is downright insulting.

  106. chicagofan says: Nov 24, 2012 2:48 PM

    How many players this yr or in the last ten yrs have broken their arms blocking on the PAT? There is your answer….He could have broken it making an important or insignificant diving catch or doing something stupid at a club partying. As long as it occurred when he was doing his job… it is unfortunate , but part of the game and you can’t blame Belichick for not being god and knowing this would occur.

  107. pixelito says: Nov 25, 2012 9:04 AM

    You wanted to keep your 6′ 6″ 280 lb TE off the field on an extra point because you thought he would break his arm blocking?

    Really?

    Really?

  108. jonahfalcon says: Nov 25, 2012 9:51 AM

    You want to keep your best TE on the field to insure you have 59 points instead of 58 points when you have a bunch of TEs on the bench?

    Really?

    REALLY?

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