Comments on: The Gruden leverage game accelerates

By: btintampa

btintampa — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:44:33 +0000

Anything to get him and his voice out of the booth!

By: bigdawgy54

bigdawgy54 — Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:21:27 +0000

Gruden won a Super Bowl with “his” offense and “his” playbook. He changed the whole left side of the o-line. Added a running back and two receivers. He did not win with Dungy’s offensive team. Dungy couldn’t win with his own team. Thus, he was let go.
The next 6 years Gruden coached the lowest spending team in the league. The owners made a hostile takeover of the Manchester United. They quit spending on the Bucs. Gruden was left to try and find old guys with something left in the tank.
I’d take Gruden as my team’s coach any day of the week!
To discount Gruden as not being one heck of a coach is to show that one does not truly know their football as well as they think they do.

By: datpinoyboy68

datpinoyboy68 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:17:22 +0000

Although the thought of Gruden as Eagles Coach is alluring, I don’t want him as a coach. NFL needs to get out of hiring “re-treads” or old names being coach. I’d like for them to hire a guy like Moss from GB, Spags from NO, or perhaps Brian Kelly from ND. The majority of the team are 25 and under and they need a young sharp mind like Tomlin or Harbaugh to coach. Ditch the wide 9 and the WCO and implement a 4-6 defense along with a more convential balanced offense i.e. GIVE SHADY THE BALL!

By: radrntn

radrntn — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:25:32 +0000

grapes911 says:
Nov 19, 2012 9:16 AM
Gruden won a SB with another coach’s team, then he didn’t win another playoff game over the next 6 years, culminating with this firing. Why would anyone want this guy?
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everybody knows if gruden would have stayed with “his” super bowl team aka the raiders, they would have blown out the buc’s that year, even if dungy was still there. It’s just the raiders were still using chuckie’s playbook , and he coached the tampa bay d, on all those plays. At least Rich Gannon set a super bowl record with 5 td’s. (just 3 of them were to the wrong team.

By: phishfan520

phishfan520 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:31:03 +0000

bdawk20 says:
Nov 19, 2012 9:18 AM
The Eagles should not hire Gruden. Coaches rarely, if ever, have success at a 2nd stop

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Belicheck, Coughlin, Shula, Landry, Ditka, Shanahan, Vermeil, GRUDEN, Cowher, Dungy….
I watch just a little football but I believe most of them are past “rarely, if ever”.

By: beedubyatoo

beedubyatoo — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 19:13:34 +0000

The question shouldn’t be “Why would Philly want Gruden?”, it should be, “Why would Gruden want Philly?”

By: kracker315

kracker315 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:51:19 +0000

Bring on Chip Kelly!

By: briggsweatbird

briggsweatbird — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:49:40 +0000

He can coach my daughter’s dance team, if it gets him out of the booth.

That guy? He might be the worst announcer I’ve ever heard.

By: brandontroutman

brandontroutman — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:55:24 +0000

Bdawk20,

Gruden’s sb ring came at his 2nd stop. He was in oakland before tampa.

As far as 2nd stops, ask shannahan and belichick how their 2nd chances turned out? 5 rings between these two guys

By: pantherpro

pantherpro — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:45:23 +0000

Please come to Hillbilly land in Charlotte and turn around the most boring fan experience in the NFL. They show up late from church and still won’t embrace a great young talent in Cam Newton! Please give these hicks a reason to make some noise at that stale, cement dump!

By: radrntn

radrntn — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:42:43 +0000

after seeing Gruden at the raider game yesterday and working the crowd as he walked the field, there is no doubt in my mind what job he wants. If he gets it is another question for Mark, and Reggie.

I just know he needs to stick to coaching, and stay away from the draft.

By: prince5000

prince5000 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:38:28 +0000

i live in Little Rock and we know that Gruden isn’t coming. John Daly who is from Arkansas and really close friends with Gruden was on a morning show a week ago and dropped a hint that he might take the Arkansas job, and now its on CBSSPORTS.COM. Hilarous. Besides, our AD Jeff Long has already said the next hire is someone who is currently a head coach.

By: bigkat2152

bigkat2152 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:34:56 +0000

Gruden took some one else’s team and won a Super Bowl against his old team .. So there’s that .. That argument is stupid

By: shaggyjeff

shaggyjeff — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:30:10 +0000

Cam Newton would not be able to pronounce 95% of Jon Grudens play book……fact ./

By: bobleblah

bobleblah — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:11:18 +0000

Jeff Lurie hired up and coming coordinator Ray Rhodes followed by up and coming position coach Andy Reid. So I am betting he steps down a little more an goes for an up and coming trainer or an intern somewhere.

By: cuda1234

cuda1234 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:52:53 +0000

Philly could be perfect for Gruden. Its a prennial playoff team that he could run into the ground like he did in Tampa.

Maybe he’ll trade from Tim Tebow so that we can have two of the least accomplished, most over-hyped guys in the league on one team. That way the media will be able to drool over them both at the same time!

By: AlohaMrHand

AlohaMrHand — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:51:16 +0000

Gruden rebuilt a Raider team that was literally in ruins after both the Mike White and Joe Bugel did there.Gruden is a damn good coach despite what you amatuer Belichicks think.

By: samoanjungle

samoanjungle — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:45:29 +0000

I think his little brother will be a head coach before he returns.
I’m not sure what the difference in pay would be but he has some cushy jobs right now that probably pay him pretty good so why return to the grind of coaching?

By: jonasgrumbyoftx

jonasgrumbyoftx — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:40:59 +0000

I just do not care where he goes as long as he is out of the broadcast booth. I’d like to listen to MNF with sound again.

By: tfoz5150

tfoz5150 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:37:39 +0000

Holmgren didn’t win in his second stint, it was his first. Chucky started in Philly as OC with Ricky Watters. They were actually pretty good until he left for Oakland. It would probably be a good fit in that he doesn’t need a franchise QB to get it done. As far as it being Dungys team, well he could never get over the hump. Plus Gruden built up that Raider team he plowed in the SB.

By: numba1recx19

numba1recx19 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:35:24 +0000

Damnnn Gruden and Cam? Super Bowl era.

By: skinsandstars

skinsandstars — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:33:22 +0000

Yes, Gruden took someone else’s team to the SB. But he took a team that Dungy couldn’t get there. He was the guy who made it happen. That’s why a team like the Eagles are a good team for him to go to. It’s a team already pretty stacked, and all he needs to do is coach it right. I’m a skins fan, so I don’t want this to happen. Because if he goes to Philly, they will be a serious contender.

By: ryanrockzzz

ryanrockzzz — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:28:14 +0000

I think Gruden would be an OK hire for the Eagles. He didn’t really look good his last few years in Oakland, and those really are just the facts. A lot of people on here seem to be liking him for the “name” value, which is fine. I would rather see the Eagles hire a HC who is not going to demand full control over player personel, since that’s the same thing that has gotten them where they are now!

Hire a GM in the mold of a Bill Polian, and let them bring in a coach to work with them. It does not have to be a Gruden or Cower, but could be a Dirk Kotter or McCoy from Denver, who knows.

By: bigbluefan1

bigbluefan1 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:17:54 +0000

All this coach talk is BS

Look what happened in Tampa they took a middle of the road college coach and he has turned his team right around.

Expect to see less big names and more Rutgers type coaches in the NFL next season.

This is a copycat business it worked once so others will try.

Yes Philly fans are screaming for a big name but what they really need is someone to come in and get rid of the big headaches and start over it will take a few years but building is better then renting all the high priced talent that they have done in the past.

By: mattdaddy7

mattdaddy7 — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:01:31 +0000

The Eagles should not hire Gruden. Coaches rarely, if ever, have success at a 2nd stop.

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Yeah, that’s true. Just ask Bill Belicheck…or maybe Tom Coughlin…or Dick Vermeil…or Mike Holmgren…or Don Shula…or Mike Shanahan…or, wait for it…Jon Gruden…

By: zurnvs

zurnvs — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:00:45 +0000

He’s going to UT, and I’m not a UT fan.

By: soobster

soobster — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:59:05 +0000

Fact: No Super Bowl winning Head Coach has ever won with a different team.

If he was smart he would go to the college game. If he goes to the playoffs year after year and doesn’t win in Philly, they’ll chase him out of there.

If he goes to Tennessee and gets them back into SEC contention and wins a couple SEC Championships he’ll be a God in Knoxville for restoring their program.

Hell, Alabama erected a statue of Nick Saban in Tuscaloosa and he’s not even done coaching there. They’ll never do that for him in the pros.

By: steelerben

steelerben — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:53:12 +0000

bdawk20 says:
Nov 19, 2012 9:18 AM
The Eagles should not hire Gruden. Coaches rarely, if ever, have success at a 2nd stop.

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Chucky’s already coached for Tampa Bay and for Oakland. So he’s not a second stopper.

And as far as not having success at your second stop… Might want to talk to Belichek about that one.

By: bleedgreen

bleedgreen — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:47 +0000

bdawk,

Except for Shanahan, Belichick, Gruden, Holmgren and Vermeil?

All of those coaches won Superbowls in their second head coaching gig, except for Holmgren who went to the Superbowl in his second head coaching gig.

By: brownstain

brownstain — Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:07 +0000

Gruden won a SB with another coach’s team, then he didn’t win another playoff game over the next 6 years, culminating with this firing. Why would anyone want this guy?

This shows that he’s a good coach but lousy at talent evaluation. The talent gradually degraded during his tenure. He would be a good hire in a pure coaching role with a strong and competant GM. You can’t give this guy control over the draft.