Comments on: Officials hand Texans a touchdown, with an assist from Schwartz

By: discosucs2005

discosucs2005 — Thu, 29 Nov 2012 23:52:29 +0000

“the rule is dumb. what if the texans threw a challenge flag then what? lol would they have locked in a touchdown and prevented a booth review?”

No. A team can’t stop a replay to their benefit.

By: jeffchadwick

jeffchadwick — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:38:47 +0000

Here’s an honest question on this one: I wonder if there is video evidence on when Schwartz threw the flag? I’d bet dollars to doughnuts it was long before Forsett ever entered in the end zone.

By: pappert

pappert — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 23:27:55 +0000

the rule is dumb. what if the texans threw a challenge flag then what? lol would they have locked in a touchdown and prevented a booth review?

By: beanocook

beanocook — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:49:02 +0000

The NFL is a complete joke.

The rest of the day on Thanksgiving the accouncers kept repeating the lie that EVERY SCORING PLAY is reviewed. NO IT ISN”T. LIES!!!

Proof? See LIONS GAME>

By: gostlcards5

gostlcards5 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:24:03 +0000

Also from NOT a Lions fan…

The other horrible no-call was (I believe) in the series after this blown call. Schaub runs basically straight backward 10-15 yds on a pass play, clearly intentionally grounded the ball, and no call. Also of note, the commentators did not even mention it. I think it would have been either 3rd and 20-25 or 4th and 20-25. The Texans ended up going down for a FG on that drive.

It really seemed like in 2 series, they were handed 10 points.

By: comeonnowguys

comeonnowguys — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 04:25:41 +0000

In all fairness, credit should be given to Schwartz, with an assist to the refs.

Know the rules, Mr. Soon-To-Be-Fired.

By: coachglove

coachglove — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 21:07:37 +0000

the Raider game today is why you let the play continue. The inadvertent whistle can’t be fixed. Letting them play can be….terrible officiating in the Raider game.

By: clayme52

clayme52 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:51:49 +0000

You can’t call it the ref’s help… Ridiculous rule, but the officials interpreted it how the rule book says they should

By: gdeli

gdeli — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:26:50 +0000

nature preys on the weak

By: thousandcasts

thousandcasts — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 00:11:10 +0000

“To those of you who are slamming Schwartz for “not knowing the rules”, I submit that none of you have ever participated in sports above the level of Little League. In the light of the circumstances, I imagine Lombardi would have been in the middle of the field with his red flag and asking if anyone had another he could throw. The situation was so absurd that I am sure the last thing in Schwartz’s mind was the unbelievable rule about cancelling review. If you don’t agree, then “beer slow pitch softball” games are probably the limit of your “competition”.”
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Finally–someone who gets it. It’s easy for people to say, “I know the rule,” but none of them had to deal with two previous quarters of bad officiating before Schwartz acted like a normal human being and had seen enough. 99% of us would have done the same exact thing and the other 1% doesn’t have a pulse.

By: warhammer420

warhammer420 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 20:51:37 +0000

I watch less football nowadays. Things like this are a big reason why. The NFL has very little integrity now, allowing MASSIVE blown calls like that to stand. Disgusting.

By: flyinhyphy

flyinhyphy — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 18:05:50 +0000

how is this consistent with other rules? do you get a penalty when you throw the flag to challenge a down by contact penalty when there is no touchdown? c’mon man!

By: stew48

stew48 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:11:59 +0000

To those of you who are slamming Schwartz for “not knowing the rules”, I submit that none of you have ever participated in sports above the level of Little League. In the light of the circumstances, I imagine Lombardi would have been in the middle of the field with his red flag and asking if anyone had another he could throw. The situation was so absurd that I am sure the last thing in Schwartz’s mind was the unbelievable rule about cancelling review. If you don’t agree, then “beer slow pitch softball” games are probably the limit of your “competition”.

By: bigbluecrew420

bigbluecrew420 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:56:31 +0000

I knew the rule before it was called. Why didn’t the coach???

By: tdrundmc

tdrundmc — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 04:08:35 +0000

Walt Coleman is awful. Get rid of him before he adds to his list of teams he has screwed(raiders and lions).

By: 50milessouthofdetroit

50milessouthofdetroit — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:19:23 +0000

i was at the game and when the runner was down, the sideline officials each went to the yard line where they thought he was down. then when he got up and ran, they both scattered so they wouldn’t be seen

By: avoidtheboyd

avoidtheboyd — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 02:01:23 +0000

What exactly was a “bad call”? Sure they didn’t whistle him down but the whole purpose of reviewing ALL scoring plays is for this exact situation. If the review had been done, it would have been called back. It’s not the Texans’ fault for playing to the whistle, it’s not the refs’ fault they couldn’t review it. It is solely the fault of Schwartz that this touchdown stood as called. Bad rule, right call.

By: gmk17

gmk17 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:59:32 +0000

I didn’t care who won this game but even I knew that the coach should not have thrown the red flag on a play that automatically is reviewed. However, I did not know it wouldn’t be reviewable since he did throw the red flag but I can only assume that the coach new that or at least should have. All of that being said, there was a lot of game to be played yet so to say this game was won by Houston because of this call is ridiculous.

By: fasteddy415

fasteddy415 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:52:47 +0000

Niner fan laughing out of control!! Haha! You know why!!!

By: jskill3

jskill3 — Fri, 23 Nov 2012 01:04:02 +0000

Texanfan here.

He was down. Blown call. Stupid rule needs changing.

But I’m buying a lottery tickey tonight and I’m keeping it if I win.

By: vikingprideforever

vikingprideforever — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:24:46 +0000

the reason instant replay is in the game is to first and foremost get the call right. its that simple. stupid rule to make the play non-reviewable. penalize with yardage. coaches should know the rules, but that rule is stupid.

By: fground

fground — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:14:30 +0000

kind of sums up the Lions…they had this game in the bag so many times is almost unimaginable that they could lose – but they did.

They took two sacks late in the game in FG range with a chance to go up two scores. They fumbled in OT in FG range, they missed a 47 yard FG.

This team plays dumb – they are a reflection of their coach.

By: bigdingyguy

bigdingyguy — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:02:44 +0000

Well, I am sure the officials to blame will be in the unemployment lin…. Oh, wait… Union

By: johnkeds

johnkeds — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:53:33 +0000

two wrongs don’t make a right. Schwartz should not have thrown flag. Call should have been reviewed then reversed. 15 yards marched off against Detroit. Game resumed from there. Getting it right supercedes all else!

By: psycaz

psycaz — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:46:01 +0000

If the reason for this rule to keep the game going, then it’s stupid.

If the NFL doesn’t want coaches challenging non-challengeable plays, then penalize those instances.

Saying a coach is deliberately trying to slow the game down when the play is stopped is asinine.

By: dolphins512

dolphins512 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:45:31 +0000

Unfortunate play and result….that goes without saying…but…

Ref’s miss calls all the time. That is why there is a replay system. Had the play been reviewed, the mistake would have been seen and corrected by the refs.

The ONLY thing that could keep that play from being reviewed, was something stupid like a coach throwing a challenge flag on a automatically reviewed play. And here comes Jim Schwartz….providing the only possible way to screw this up.

Don’t blame the refs, the missed it, which happens and they would have corrected it. But by rule, the challenge flag prevented them from correcting it.

If you don’t like the rule, change it. If you get paid to know the rules…..know them.

By: phillyphil005

phillyphil005 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:29:18 +0000

The NFL uses replay to ensure that a correct call is made. They added to that premise by automatically reviewing all scoring plays and turnovers. Writing a rule such as this undermines the entire replay concept with absolutely ZERO benefit. This rule needs to be removed. Two teams have been hurt by this ridiculous rule so far this year.

This is the correct answer here…that rule basically wipes out the rule that ensures scoring plays are reviewed…talk about dumb.

Just another way for the NFL and the refs to screw over another team.

By: flakeybiscuits

flakeybiscuits — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:15:49 +0000

can’t blame the refs on that one. that play happened so fast in real time. I figured its best to just let it play out and fix it later instead of blowing the whistle when he wasn’t really down. Schwartz just really needs to know the rules

By: rhett16

rhett16 — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:12:20 +0000

This was clearly a terrible call by the refs, nobody disputes that.

The whole rule about not being able to review it because a coach threw the red flag is mind boggling in its stupidity. No game should be willing to just accept a bad call, which is exactly what the NFL is doing with this rule.

All that being said, Schwartz gets paid a lot of money to know the rules, and a lot of money to keep his head on straight during the game and give the Lions the best chance to win the game. He failed to do that today. If Schwartz were as good at his job as he thiks he is, the Lions would have a few more wins during his tenure.

By: stakex

stakex — Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:09:22 +0000

For all the grief the replacement refs got, the regular refs aren’t much better. You see just as many mistakes now as you did with the replacements… and this was probably the worst one of the year.