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NFL’s Ray Anderson says Suh’s kick was “out of the ordinary”

Ndamukong Suh, Matt Schaub AP

The NFL hasn’t yet decided whether Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh will be disciplined for kicking Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin on Thursday. But NFL executive V.P. of football operations Ray Anderson thought it looked suspicious.

Anderson told Mike Florio on the Dan Patrick Show that he was concerned by what he saw, but the NFL has a process for player discipline, and until the league goes through that process it’s too soon to say whether Suh kicked Schaub on purpose and would therefore be fined or suspended.

“It appeared to be a little out of the ordinary, let’s just say,” Anderson said. “It didn’t appear to be a natural football move, but we’ll withhold judgment until we see all the angles.”

This is Suh’s second straight controversial Thanksgiving. Last year, he was suspended two games after he stomped on Green Bay’s Evan Dietrich-Smith, and that incident could hurt Suh’s standing with the league this time around.

“Certainly, we have to go on a player’s history,” Anderson said. “That will certainly factor into our thinking. . . . If you’re a repeat offender you really aren’t entitled to the benefit of the doubt.”

Those comments don’t sound promising for Suh.

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55 Responses to “NFL’s Ray Anderson says Suh’s kick was “out of the ordinary””
  1. gmsingh says: Nov 23, 2012 10:34 AM

    What are the odds that Suh would sack a guy and then “accidentally” aim his foot directly at the guy’s package?

  2. 2difshoe says: Nov 23, 2012 10:35 AM

    After further review, the call on the field is confirmed…. Suh is a douche !!!!

  3. fuglyflorio says: Nov 23, 2012 10:36 AM

    The sentiment isn’t that it’s ‘too harsh’ … it’s that it’s a stupid rule. No one is upset because of the severity of the call. That has nothing to do with it.

  4. joeymichaelsstudios says: Nov 23, 2012 10:36 AM

    Suh knew what he was doing…you can see him look at Schaub on the way down. And that is when he gave the extra little kick..jerk

  5. doe22us says: Nov 23, 2012 10:36 AM

    In Suh’s defense he was trying out a reverse, falling down karate kick.

  6. mnlogic says: Nov 23, 2012 10:38 AM

    When does this stop, when it becomes criminal or ends someones career?? NFL end his season before he ends someone elses!

  7. joetoronto says: Nov 23, 2012 10:40 AM

    Yes, it was “Out of the ordinary and straight into his crotch.”

    Ya, that’s the ticket.

  8. bathroomben7 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:40 AM

    1 year suspension. This guy is an animal and belongs no where near a football field.

  9. bigbluwreckincrew83 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:40 AM

    I usually never weigh in on the whole dirty player/illegal hit debates , but Suh is a scumbag

  10. mvp43 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:41 AM

    Suh can twist this any way he wants but the bottom line is that he did do it intentionally. At whta point does either the league or the Lions sit this guy down and and get him some help. He obviously has some sort of problem that needs to be addressed.

  11. iman883 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:42 AM

    I mean, c’mon. I’m not even a Lions fan and I think the hate for Suh has gone way too far at this point. Yes, he has made some ill advised plays in the past, but between the (non) controversy over the Cutler hit earlier this year and now this incident, it seems like people are just looking for reasons to hate on him. Unless he’s some sort of ninja, I’m not sure how he could purposely kick Schaub in the groin while his head was in the turf.

  12. trojanwarrior007 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:45 AM

    Suh needs some meds for his mental issues.

  13. filthymcnasty1 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:49 AM

    What a piece of human filth.

  14. willyalistentothis says: Nov 23, 2012 10:55 AM

    It would be a joke to even consider giving this guy the benefit of the doubt. If player safety is really a top priority, it might be time that the NFL considers telling this guy he can’t play anymore. He obviously does not have mental capacity to stop himself from acting the way he does, and this makes him very dangerous. He is a great player, somewhat of a smart guy, but something is wrong.

  15. lostsoul8888 says: Nov 23, 2012 10:56 AM

    Hate on haters! You’re all as bad as the media!

  16. thetokyosandblaster says: Nov 23, 2012 11:00 AM

    iman883 says:
    Nov 23, 2012 10:42 AM
    I mean, c’mon. I’m not even a Lions fan and I think the hate for Suh has gone way too far at this point. Yes, he has made some ill advised plays in the past, but between the (non) controversy over the Cutler hit earlier this year and now this incident, it seems like people are just looking for reasons to hate on him. Unless he’s some sort of ninja, I’m not sure how he could purposely kick Schaub in the groin while his head was in the turf.

    —-

    I honestly don’t understand how people don’t get this. Suh wasn’t necessarily trying to kick the groin area. But it was QUITE obvious that he saw Schaub and decided to kick. Landing the kick where he did was just what he would call “bonus points.”

    You don’t kick the leg out when you’re falling down unless you want to kick someone. It’s natural to actually bend your leg, not straighten it, to soften the blow when you land.

    Suh needs to go the way of Sean Payton. No football contact for a year…and since the guy obviously doesn’t get it, just suspend him for the rest of this season and ALL of next year.

    With all that time off, he’ll end up in prison, and we’ll all be better off.

  17. vapackfan81 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:01 AM

    I don’t think he was intentionally aiming for the groin but it seemed like he was reaching with that leg, trying to get his cleats on Schaub. If someone with no history had done it, I’d doubt it would be a story but since it’s Suh…we get to hear about it for 2 weeks.

  18. nodindenver says: Nov 23, 2012 11:02 AM

    Get the man a baby sitter for on the field activity like Dez has for after hours. Families are going to need to impose PG-13 ratings to his Thanksgiving games. What a waste of talent!

  19. shaggytoodle says: Nov 23, 2012 11:06 AM

    For as football games that are played college and pro, you think a “freak” accident like that might happen more.

    Except for in this case, it did look like a very unatural motion, unless your putting setting your kick stand up on a bike.

  20. 8to80texansblog says: Nov 23, 2012 11:07 AM

    Suh kicks Schaub in the groin… Texans are gifted a TD… Karma anyone?

  21. billh1947 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:07 AM

    Suh maybe didnt know exactly who owned the groin he was delivering his sudden karate kick to but he knew there was somebody close by before he hit the ground and was intent on delivering some pain to him.how many players lash out with a leg kick like that at the very last second when going down or on the ground,video does not lie and with Suhs record there is only one verdict the league can come to,guilty and suspension,again.

  22. dikhurtz says: Nov 23, 2012 11:08 AM

    Looked at the replay several times. I don’t think that Suh was aiming for his crotch, as he is not talented enough to land that type of blow at that exact spot while falling down. However, he did intentionally try to get a lick in and he did while looking at Schaub as he was falling hoping to make contact somewhere on his body. Proving that will be a tough task.

  23. flmike says: Nov 23, 2012 11:11 AM

    Suh is the most overrated one dimensional defensive lineman in the league, if he can’t bullrush you he is lost, he still hasn’t developed a second or counter move and he mostly ignores the run game, Gerald McCoy is showing everyone that he was the premier d-lineman in that draft, he may not have the sack stats, but he is the most disruptive force coming off of any d-line this season. Suh needs a nice long suspension and a very large fine for his child like actions during the game.

  24. sojumaster says: Nov 23, 2012 11:14 AM

    Come on guys …. Give Suh a break …

    I think it is obvious why Suh acts stupid on Thanksgiving. He would prefer to be home and eating a few turkeys and not be playing. He is hungry and pissed off. :)

  25. kingpel says: Nov 23, 2012 11:21 AM

    Suh is a mongoloid.

  26. umrguy42 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:27 AM

    As a Rams fan, even when Bradford struggles, I’m still glad the team chose him in the draft over Suh every time I hear about another incident like this…

  27. obithejedi says: Nov 23, 2012 11:31 AM

    I saw the play and it did look intentional to me. What kind of a man kicks another man in that area? Isn’t that kind of move reserved for girls or women trying to defend themselves from someone? Suh is a large human being, to me there is no excuse for doing that sort of thing.

  28. almighty1 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:39 AM

    Watched this on replay several times. Pretty obvious he tried to kick Shaub. Whether he aimed for the wedding tackle or not can be debatable.

  29. mz1394 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:42 AM

    you have to love lions fans coming on here and defending suh by commenting incognito with things like im not a lions or and im a fan of (place name of team they just pick out of the air here) . Stop it youre not fooling anybody lions fan.

  30. bigbamboom1 says: Nov 23, 2012 11:46 AM

    I sure wish the NFL would stop all of this “Stop Action, Slow-Mo”, Parsing of games to fine and suspend players. It is mostly a joke and con game that rob players of cash to replenish the coffers of NFL charities. At worst, the money should go to the player’s selected charity. You can’t just slo-mo analyze a player’s intention like that. Those players are acting and reacting in micro-seconds of time. Most of them genuinely regret when they hurt someone.

    Roger Goodell (who never played football) is legislating and fining all of the uniqueness out of the NFL. It is becoming more like a “Flag Football league”.

  31. norseyapper says: Nov 23, 2012 11:48 AM

    It absolutely looked as though Suh’s leg was going by the area so he gave that extra 8″-10″ kick to inflict some extra pain.
    I think that is the key issue. Suh is so wrapped up in delivering pain to his opponent that he never misses an opportunity to do so.
    It is pretty easy to see why he was voted by his peers to be the filthiest player in the leauge.
    I am surprised that O-linemen haven’t taken advantage of some opportunity to take his knees out and rid the league of a guy that by nature can’t control his urges.
    Suh is a discredit to the game.

  32. rubbernilly says: Nov 23, 2012 11:51 AM

    Full disclosure: Lions fan who thinks Suh brought some necessary toughness and attitude to a once limp franchise, but who is now going too far… and who thinks the kick was intentional.

    Though I think the kick was intentional, I can’t agree with the NFL spokesperson who said that if you’re a repeat offender you aren’t really entitled to the benefit of the doubt.

    I don’t think that’s right or fair.

    What happens to you if you’re a repeat offender is that you get the book thrown at you if you’re found to have intentionally kicked the QB in his junk. Huge suspension. Big fine.

    But the fact-finding portion of the NFL’s deliberations have to be the same for everyone, I think.

  33. jm91rs says: Nov 23, 2012 12:23 PM

    flmike says: Nov 23, 2012 11:11 AM

    Gerald McCoy is showing everyone that he was the premier d-lineman in that draft, he may not have the sack stats, but he is the most disruptive force coming off of any d-line this season.

    ______________________________________

    Geno Atkins begs to differ

  34. myhornispurple says: Nov 23, 2012 12:23 PM

    He’s monster. He hates the opposition and does everything he can to disable them. Sounds like a great defender to me, and anyone else that understands how football is meant to be played.

  35. samoanjungle says: Nov 23, 2012 12:25 PM

    A kick to the Giblets is Suh’s way of saying Happy Thanksgiving. Now pass the gravy.

  36. derek1800 says: Nov 23, 2012 12:27 PM

    You can say whatever you want about the kick but it will be no where close to what the texans lb did to cutler. That was probably the direst play I have seen in a while.

    Also, Chad Greenway is another filthy play and should be out of the league as well. The amount of times he has left his feet to up (yes up) to deliver a blow to an opponents head is crazy.

    Let’s kick all 3 of them out of the league. Suh is dirty but lets also call out the others once in a while.

  37. tv426 says: Nov 23, 2012 12:28 PM

    Suh is trash! Just plain trash! And he always will be.

  38. firenflcommish says: Nov 23, 2012 12:29 PM

    I’m sick of the sissies out there that are worried about players careers. I don’t watch football for the scoring, I watch it to see people get hit. All the new rules protecting the QB and kickers are turning the game into flag football. We need to go back to the days when people got concussions and neck injuries we cheered because our team took out a star player. The bounties should be allowed and encouraged. I would love to see the fans getting involved as well. Am I the only one who would spend my hard earned money to see players getting taken off on stretchers? That’s what football is about, hitting. If you keep taking that away this league will go the way of the NHL. If they fine or suspend Suh at all, I’m giving up my Skins season tickets next year.

  39. cinvis says: Nov 23, 2012 12:38 PM

    Bigger picture… Is it time for the NFL to remove Detroit from the Thanksgiving game which it has hosted for decades? Suh has embarrassed the NFL on national tv 2 years in a row. I guarantee that the NFL will consider it.

  40. derek1800 says: Nov 23, 2012 12:42 PM

    Bigger picture… Is it time for the NFL to remove Detroit from the Thanksgiving game which it has hosted for decades? Suh has embarrassed the NFL on national tv 2 years in a row. I guarantee that the NFL will consider it.
    ————-
    Detroit created the Thanksgiving day game. To remove them would be stupid.

  41. realdealsteel says: Nov 23, 2012 12:46 PM

    I’m not a Lions fan or a Texans fan..

    With that said, what Suh did was clearly intentional. Why? If you go through the entire game, Suh was taking little liberties with Schaub the entire game BEFORE the kicking incident. Suh was repeatedly hitting Schaub to the ground after passes where thrown and he could clearly stop if he choose. He was always giving him a little something.

    This guy is out of control and he needs to be immediately suspended at least 3 games for starters. And if you remember, last week against the Packers, he was attempting to pick up Rodgers and and drive his head into the ground but the rest of the Packers were there to stop him.

    He’s out of control.

  42. nfl999 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:06 PM

    There is no possible way he fell over the OL and was able to purposely kick him in the groin.. I get that he’s a polarizing person in the NFL but the media and everyone else are grasping at anything to paint him in a negitive way. And this is coming from someone who isnt his biggest fan.

  43. jskill3 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:35 PM

    I hope they play again soon, and in Houston this time. Would love to see the “zone blocking scheme” Kubiak and Schaub put in for Suh.

  44. superpats90 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:38 PM

    I certainly don’t hate on him, it just a lack of common sense that I hate. He’s just a big kid and the NFL is a professional sport.. this shouldn’t be tolerated by anyone..

  45. richie500 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:39 PM

    Please Suh come to the Steelers when your contract is up. Everyone hates us anyway, let’s double down on that.
    You can florish in the tradition of tough mean players like Mean Joe Green, Jack Lambert, Gregg Loyd, James Harrison…

  46. bmosh99 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:51 PM

    How come nobody was crying about Jared Allen punching a guy in his man region last year.

  47. meana55 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:53 PM

    Doesn’t Suh have a soccer background? Clearly he was trying to do something with his leg and his actions were clearly intentional.

  48. vikingfan1971 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:55 PM

    In defense of
    Greenway he is not the same as SUH
    I feel that they should be suspended and fined you are not only hurting the player with that kick butt you could do some permament ( spelling ) damage.

  49. md228010 says: Nov 23, 2012 1:57 PM

    How about Peyton Manning on Thanksgiving and not the Lions.. I’ m good with Dallas.. New England.. Don’t ever want to see the sad Jets play.. Green Bay would be nice.. SF.. Houston was cool.. Definitely agree with above comment about Suh’s embarssing actions and surely the league will look into that for next years game.

  50. hansenbrothers says: Nov 23, 2012 2:09 PM

    Just watch the play & it’s obvious that he does it on purpose. He looks up at schaub & extends his knee. Intentional. Just when you thought he couldn’t be more of a scumbag.

  51. manilovethepftcensors says: Nov 23, 2012 2:10 PM

    Ok…..quick…..everyone…..time to act super OUTRAGED about a complete non-issue.
    I’m so glad that Suh is on my team and any one of you whining about him here would love to have him on your team too.

  52. myhornispurple says: Nov 23, 2012 2:31 PM

    Leave it up to the players. O-linemen will exact there revenge upon Sue…that’s how its supposed to work. Not league over involvement.

  53. afsgtret says: Nov 23, 2012 2:35 PM

    some of these people that comment they like to see players carted off are INSANE. someone should get suh on the ground and stomp on HIS junk. come to think of it, someone ought to kick “firenflcommisioner” in his manhood area and see if he enjoys being carried out on a stretcher. that man is sick

  54. jvsteelers says: Nov 23, 2012 11:13 PM

    Suh is such a wuss. No wonder the lions have the record that they do.

  55. craigbic says: Nov 24, 2012 7:09 AM

    I’m really tired of hearing people say that “there is NO way Suh could have kicked him intentionally because his head was facing down”. If you watch the video a few times you can clearly see that as he starts going down he can see EXACTLY where Schaub is relative to his own position and then even turns his head toward him a bit as he’s stumbling foward to reconfirm where Schaub is (he most certainly would have seen exactly where he was based on the angle of his head to Schaub) and then at that exact moment you get that snappy little kick to the crotch. And while we’re at it – who does that and why would you? Snap your feet out in a mule-kick style in “random” directions as you try to recover from getting tackled to the ground. Nobody. No reason. He’s as dirty as they come and the league needs to send him back home for good. Put manilovethepftcensors on the bus back home with him too.

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