Comments on: John Mara favored the red-flag rule, now wants to see it reviewed

By: randomguy9999

randomguy9999 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 14:28:52 +0000

yeah but it IS a delay if you throw the red flag on a scoring play:

this game is a business and TV time is BIG money per minute…

when they throw the red flag, even if the ref is already going to the hood…. he’s gotta stop, go to the coach concerned have a conference to ask what the coach is challenging, talk with the other refs to make sure everyone agrees it’s within the rules and reviewable, THEN move on….

maybe it’s 45 seconds… maybe it’s 1:30… but whatever it is, it delays the game and costs a bunch of money unnecessarily…

By: kev86

kev86 — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:43:43 +0000

Old school ownership trumps all other. Sorry to those who can’t acknowledge and/or appreciate. Maras go way back.

By: tdmypants

tdmypants — Sun, 25 Nov 2012 01:34:14 +0000

The penalty for said offense is an 18M salary cap hit, and be glad that you didn’t lose draft picks…

By: smcgaels1997

smcgaels1997 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:46:09 +0000

Then why approve a rule if it didn’t specify that if a penalty occurs then its non reviewable? So that rule created an actual penalty that nullified the review…seems the intent it was for wasn’t clarified.

By: thestrategyexpert

thestrategyexpert — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:42:27 +0000

These guys already reviewed this rule and they liked it! Despite the fact that you could hypothetically create a situation like this to test it out in theory so presumably they like it despite how it played out in Detroit. These guys do not know how to make rules to make the game better, and there are tons of things that need to be changed.

How about reviewing the guys that are in charge of reviewing the rules, and get somebody that has great ideas about ALL of the problems with the rulebook?

By: craigmaitland

craigmaitland — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:37:30 +0000

What I don’t like is that the replay officials for some reason miss plays that should be reviewed. For example holliday a week ago dropping the ball before the end zone… Replay officials weren’t/didn’t review the play. But if the coach throws a flag to challenge they still can’t?

By: radrntn

radrntn — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:33:46 +0000

technology is better than human error…just eliminate the refs entirely….i mean when ever they want they can throw a flag on any given play at any given time…….take the human element 100% out of the equation.

By: rickc402

rickc402 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:46:09 +0000

Good examPle of what a pass this guy is. I think the Giants should lose draft picks or 18 mil. in cap space.

By: nagaswan

nagaswan — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 18:19:13 +0000

He is as bad at football decisions as his parents were good.

By: richwizl

richwizl — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:59:31 +0000

Too bad this ill-conceived rule had to ruin the entire season for the Lions. They were playing a really good game against a very good team that did not need a gift TD. I feel bad for them and their fans because of this foolish debacle.

By: hellawaitsusall

hellawaitsusall — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:56:32 +0000

I’m glad none of you guys run the league. Also why I don’t comment here much. You wouldn’t have the NFL as it is today without the likes of the Mara’s, Rooney’s, Davis to name a few

By: bigbluecrew420

bigbluecrew420 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:53:53 +0000

Taintedlombardis

@rcb0424

Mara is most definitely worried about the Redskins. If it wasn’t for the refs calling a phantom leg whip and an imaginary illegal formation, Skins are in first place. The Giants are the worst team to ever win a SuperBowl.

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Twice! Hahaha
They’re the worst and the luckiest right???

I love reading the jealousy of other fans of inferior teams. It’s like a reminder of not only winning the SB twice but also how much it negatively impacted other fans for years to come. Keep crying and maybe they won’t count…..

By: bigbluecrew420

bigbluecrew420 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:44:33 +0000

rcb0424

Your wearing your Giants gear to sit front row to Philly vs Carolina???

By: cinvis

cinvis — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:28:34 +0000

It’s a great rule. It’s an IQ test for coaches… Schwartz… FAIL. Smith… FAIL. What do these coaches have in common? Their teams will never win with them as coaches.

By: bigbluecrew420

bigbluecrew420 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:28:07 +0000

Gravy

Just because you’re filthy rich doesn’t mean you have an average IQ.

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How about rostering up 2 SB winning teams? Your jealousy brings a smile to my face EVERY time.

By: inthearex

inthearex — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:28:03 +0000

I hope all of you realize that nothing gets passed without a majority rule from all of the owners. Before all you geniuses post about how greedy and selfish the maras are, do some research about the family. The nfl would be non existent had it not been for this family.

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 17:12:12 +0000

I just KNEW when I clicked on this story that Skins and Dallas fans would be here whining about their teams getting caught trying to be slick, and blaming Mara.

By: bamboozle99

bamboozle99 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:55:01 +0000

It all comes down to the definition of “unsportsmanlike conduct”, mistakenly throwing a red flag should not qualify for that.

By: kev86

kev86 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:27:28 +0000

Long live the Maras. When football royalty speaks, people listen. The jealous posts are hysterical.

By: ahsinnyc

ahsinnyc — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:01:19 +0000

@rcb0424

You really think this is about the Giants and Skins?? Wake up.

People are upset with the NFL governance structure because Mara has an office at 345 Park Ave. He is pushing his agenda, no matter the consequences.

Ask yourself this, if the game in 2010 didn’t include the Giants, does Mara bother with this rule?

If you actually read the post on this site, none Skins and Cowboy fans are equally upset with Mara’s actions – even when the cap penalties actually added extra cash to 28 other teams.

By: bigdaddystyle

bigdaddystyle — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:45:54 +0000

Mara didn’t write the rule you knuckleheads, the Competition Committee did. I love how anytime the NY media asks him a question, it turns into a conspiracy against the Skins and Cowboys because the owners smacked them down for being not part of the group.

By: boyshole25

boyshole25 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:34:03 +0000

Mara quit crying you nonsensical old mule

By: taintedlombardis

taintedlombardis — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:34:00 +0000

@rcb0424

By: bubba99m

bubba99m — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:24:09 +0000

It really wouldn’t be a bad rule if it were written and enforced exactly (and only) as Mara explained he intended. In my opinion, all such plays that are ordinarily reviewable, should be reviewed anyway, regardless of circumstances; then let the officials determine if a penalty is warranted based on those extenuating circumstances. Baseball uses the EC theory quite successfully. NFL won’t eliminate the rule, but they should and (no doubt) will tweak it. Too much is at stake. Each game is literally a little over 6% of a teams season; and when play-off calculations are made, it is often a zero percent differential (requiring a tie-breaker) that makes the difference. Mara had the right idea, just did not exercise due diligence in following up with the language of the rule. Bad rule as presently written, so he does deserve some egg on his face for that. Benedict would be appropriate.

By: mackie66

mackie66 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:23:05 +0000

I watched no football on turkey day and it was great, but I live in the country with a thousands of things to do. It’s a shame people have nothing better to do then watch a diminished product.

By: southsidesteve86

southsidesteve86 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:18:29 +0000

Typical NFL…..out thinking themselves in the implementation of these rules.

By: swolicious

swolicious — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:17:11 +0000

So technically couldn’t the texans coach have thrown the challenge flag before coach swartz to prevent an automatic review? Food for thought.

By: Andre's Johnson

Andre's Johnson — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:10:17 +0000

It didn’t cost anyone a game; that’s ridiculous revisionist history. It allowed a touchdown to stand in what was eventually a close game. To say the Lions lost the game because of this controversy is short-sighted.

By: lks311

lks311 — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:09:33 +0000

After initially beating up on Schwartz about this, I’m going to give the guy a little slack. Easy to call him dumb or for people to say, even sitting at home (Teddy Bruschi), that they knew the rule. Ya. You were sitting at home. You weren’t in the heat of battle, fighting against the #1 team in your league and the refs hand them an obvious gift.

Schwartz still committed an error that cost him team egregiously, but, that doesn’t make him an idiot—just a bit of a hot head. Chill coach. But, NFL, fix a rule that feels PGA Dumb, where players lose tourneys on technicalities.

By: anrgydeafman

anrgydeafman — Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:08:38 +0000

cahootie says:
Nov 24, 2012 8:46 AM
I would automatically charge the team with a review and time out, but still do the review. /quote

I actually like that idea.

Referee: “Since the idiot threw the red flag on the play that was going to be reviewed anyway, the team is charged with one review and timeout. I now will review the play like I originally was going to before someone interrupted me with their stupidity!”

Jim (in nelson’s voice): “Ha-Ha!”