If Whisenhunt, like Rex Ryan, has more influence over the roster (and I think with Whisenhunt it’s safe to say that he has a big hand in personnel decisions), that should be completely stripped, Graves should be demoted or fired in favor of a strong personnel evaluator (not just a capologist), and then see where it goes.

Ray Horton’s addition (Whisenhunt’s idea) and his overall coaching of the roster on Sundays is good, but he has no clue on players such as what QB he should have (see Max Hall, Derrick Anderson, and the current disaster).

The offensive line is as bad as the Eagle line, but they actually still have most of their starters from the beginning of the year, unlike the Eagles. It’s that bad talent wise in Arizona.

The fact that they drafted Levi Brown (still their best offensive lineman to date) back in ’07 while not only leaving Adrian Peterson on the board, but taking a player who wasn’t considered a top ten pick by anybody else in the league should tell you how talent is picked there. Most of the best players on this team came during Dennis Green’s run, which would indicate that like Whisenhunt, he had a healthy influence on personnel decisions. He was good at it, Whisenhunt is not.

However, with a strong GM taking those decisions completely out of his hands like the setup in Pittsburgh where he cut his teeth, I think he could do better. The Cardinals probably won’t if they fire him though.

Ultimately, the Bidwell family, like A.J. Smith up in San Diego, is too cheap to retain talent. They will never be a winning franchise.

I would cut Skelton, he’s terrible, he was never any good, it was the defense that won all those games, not that one read wonder.

I would trade Fitz, for two first and a second, the best WR in the league needs a ring with somebody, it’s a disservice to the NFL fans not to see this guy just tear it up.

Draft top oline guys, a solid RB in from the fourth or fifth rounds, Cut Beanie Wells, Heap, Skelton.

For QB’s I’d be happy with Kolb, 4 game winning streak with this primitive offense and the worst oline, hats off kid.

But if Alex Smith or Romo was available I would take a look.

Oh yeah, Horton is not allowed to leave, if he gets a job offer, then just make him the head coach and fire Whiz, best thing about this team, elite defense that keeps the Cards from getting completely blown out every week .

It’s time for Whizenhispants and Graves to go.

That’s not the housecleaning we need, dum-dum.

FIRE ROD GRAVES NOW!

I had no problem with the Kolb trade, and still do not. It’s easy to forget the Cards’ were in need of a QB and conventional wisdom said that Kolb was the best available. Give the Cardinals credit for going after him; they had been considered cheap for decades (true to that charge). But, Michael Bidwill taking control has changed that. They no longer let franchise players (a la Fitzgerald) walk after the first contract is up. BTW, Fitz suggested that they trade for Kolb. Perhaps he should stick to catching balls, not creating the roster…

I’d make one demand only of coach Whisenhunt if I’m Mr. Bidwill: fire Russ Grimm (OL coach) and Mike Miller (who puts offensive into the Coordinator); if Whiz is unwilling to sacrifice these two, then he can find another job elsewhere.

Finally, if Rod Graves doesn’t take the consensus best OL available in rounds one and two next April in the draft, then he needs to go as well.

I’m hearing way too much emphasis being put on their “awful o-line”. One doesn’t have to look far to find successful teams with piss-poor line play. The bears and Steelers come to mind. The Cardinals need help from top to bottom. The top should start with the GM.

However, it’s entirely possible Kolb could be a solid QB if he didn’t have the WORST pass-blocking offensive line I’ve seen since David Carr was regularly getting killed on the Texans a decade ago.

It doesn’t matter if the Cardinals get a super-smart QB with a quick release like Peyton Manning, or a super-mobile QB who can outrun defenders like RG3 behind that O-line – they’d get killed.

The average offensive line gives up around 35 or so sacks in 16 games. The Cardinals gave up 30 sacks in 6 GAMES.

The Cardinals should upgrade that O-line from worst to the NFL to at least somewhat decent. If Kolb still plays poorly, THEN replace him.

They have a good defense. They desperately need an NFL offensive line, and a running back that isn’t made of porcelain and tissue paper.

If that’s because of lack of talent or poor coaching, get rid of the coaches – especially if he’s “lost” the players.

But I don’t get the sense that the problem with them is coaching. They simply need better players and without a good OL no QB is going to look good,