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Competition Committee could consider scuttling red-flag rule this week

Greg Gautreaux, Jim Schwartz AP

On Thursday night, Peter King reported that the rule that wipes out an automatic review if the coach throws the red challenge flag will most likely disappear after the season.

On Friday, NFL executive V.P. of football operations Ray Anderson said on The Dan Patrick Show that the change could be made during the season.

Today, Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the gears could start churning this week.

Per Breer, the Competition Committee could convene a conference call in the coming days to discuss changing the rule.

The sooner the better.  While, as Anderson said Friday, competitive concerns could give the Competition Committee pause when it comes to altering rules during a season, it’s a bad rule and it needs to go.

That said, any coach who would be dumb enough to throw the red flag when he shouldn’t over the balance of the season should be fired on the spot.  For cause.

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26 Responses to “Competition Committee could consider scuttling red-flag rule this week”
  1. dldove77 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:04 AM

    Play should reviewable, but coach should be immediately ejected.

  2. j972 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:09 AM

    The rule seems not to make any sense, but to date, there has not been one report on the what the reasoning is behind the rule.

  3. vikesfansteve says: Nov 25, 2012 10:15 AM

    Negating the ability to review the play should be eliminated but keep the 15 yd penalty. Either way it would have been a Houston first down. Refs stink. The hilarious part is the replay ref is the one the officiating team has determined isn’t good enough to be on the field to officiate a game but they are in the replay booth. Sounds like the Government incompetence!

  4. lewsblues says: Nov 25, 2012 10:16 AM

    charge the offending team a time-out and then review the play ….

  5. getyourownname says: Nov 25, 2012 10:37 AM

    OK, the rule may not make sense, though we don’t yet know what the intent was in adopting it, and it may need to be modified or eliminated “upon further review.”

    But it’s not fair to change rules in mid-season. Everyone should play by the same rules the whole season.

    Especially the Lions’ future opponents, who would be denied the chance to benefit the same way the Texans did fr0m Schwartz’ inability to control himself.

  6. rmc1995 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:41 AM

    When there is gross incompetence by the refs on a missed call that happens right in front of the coach 75 yards from the goal line, there is bound to be another red flag thrown. It has nothing to do with incompetence by the coach. In Schwartz’s case, the missed call was so obvious, he threw the flag before he knew a TD would be the result of the play.

    This wasn’t a catch in the endzone, or a question of the ball breaking the plane. Coaches always wait for a replay first because the coach is at least 30 yards from the play.

    If a coach were to throw a red flag again it would be in disbelief of a call missed right in front of them.

  7. bkostela says: Nov 25, 2012 10:49 AM

    j972 says:
    Nov 25, 2012 10:09 AM
    The rule seems not to make any sense, but to date, there has not been one report on the what the reasoning is behind the rule.
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    to prevent a team from delaying the game to give the booth more time to review. its a stupid rule all the way around.

  8. fafaflunky says: Nov 25, 2012 10:52 AM

    if the refs paid attention to detail, we wouldnt need red flags..

  9. chicagobtech says: Nov 25, 2012 11:05 AM

    Leave the rule. The head coaches are reminded of the rule before every single game. Schwartz let his ego get in the way of his thinking, his team paid for it. Were I Clay Ford I would have Schwartz and Mayhew in my office Friday morning, asking the two of them why Schwartz should continue to be the HC.

  10. glowingstone says: Nov 25, 2012 11:06 AM

    Good lord, don’t ditch the rule completely. Just remove the provision that the play *can’t* be reviewed if the coach illegally tosses the red flag. No doubt the coach needs to know the rules, but the penalty yardage is punishment enough for screwing up.

  11. yajas says: Nov 25, 2012 11:17 AM

    The rule should be changed but changing it mid-season makes it look like the NFL is panicking and can’t ride out a little bump in the road. There will always be situations come that make a rule look stupid and I think the NFL would be foolish to constantly over-respond to the controversy of the week.

  12. juanhughjazz says: Nov 25, 2012 11:18 AM

    You can’t change the rule mid season. Unless you like rubbing salt into Lions fans wounds.

  13. herbertjablonski says: Nov 25, 2012 11:25 AM

    I would like to see one coach strategically use it today to wipe out a review that was going against his favor.

  14. dietrich43 says: Nov 25, 2012 11:26 AM

    Another commentor in another thread pointed out that they need to change the rule, because if your geam is the beneficiary of a bad call, that will get overturned, the coach has incentive to throw the flag. Play is not reviewed, td stands, take the 15 yds on the kickoff. I am surprised that a coach hasn’t worked that loophole yet.

  15. rcali says: Nov 25, 2012 11:28 AM

    Any other rules we should change for the bad coaches?

  16. savannahrose44 says: Nov 25, 2012 11:42 AM

    I see this as a bit ironic. Isn’t this the same coach that complained about SF throwing flags when they shouldn’t be last year? Pot meet kettle.

  17. bg0lden says: Nov 25, 2012 11:51 AM

    I don’t understand what is so egregious about a coach throwing a flag and then having to pick it up and put it back in his pocket. Why does that get penalized at all?! Throwing the red hanky had no bearing on the outcome of the game. Harshly, ridiculously penalizing it did.

  18. snaponrules says: Nov 25, 2012 11:53 AM

    dietrich43 says:Nov 25, 2012 11:26 AM

    Another commentor in another thread pointed out that they need to change the rule, because if your geam is the beneficiary of a bad call, that will get overturned, the coach has incentive to throw the flag. Play is not reviewed, td stands, take the 15 yds on the kickoff. I am surprised that a coach hasn’t worked that loophole yet.
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    The rules doesnt work that way. The rule is to stop coaches from throwning the red flag on a non-reviewable play. Its in there because the coaches where throwing it all the time to stop play to talk to the officails.
    As far as your bad play annalogy. Only the team to gain an advantage is denied the review. just like in the lions game. if the review would have favored texans they could have still looked at the review. Only the team that threw the challange can not. In this case, the lions and their “corky” coach.

  19. xplicitpits says: Nov 25, 2012 11:58 AM

    They weren’t calling it in other games(Mike Smith Atlanta VS Saints) across the NFL anyway!

  20. thesmedman says: Nov 25, 2012 12:05 PM

    Ok since we are going to have officiating rules changed during the season, how about changing game altering/influencing, INCORRECT referee calls as well? It would only seem fair.

  21. xplicitpits says: Nov 25, 2012 12:05 PM

    This will be the 3rd rule change where it affected the outcome of a Lions game to change the rule to something else later. Megatron Catch! Review of all Scoring Plays (last years Lions VS Packers game 2 horrible fumble calls which where all inconclusive upon review when challenged, then Titus Young catches a TD in the corner & Ref calls him out while Detroit has no more challenges) & now adjustment of that Rule. The rules are in place to just get it right. They haven’t been calling it all year on other teams. It’s realistically garbage referring caught on tape. Look at last weeks Lions VS Packers game! Horrible bias officiating LJ 88 deserves to l

  22. xplicitpits says: Nov 25, 2012 12:06 PM

    This will be the 3rd rule change where it affected the outcome of a Lions game to change the rule to something else later. Megatron Catch! Review of all Scoring Plays (last years Lions VS Packers game 2 horrible fumble calls which where all inconclusive upon review when challenged, then Titus Young catches a TD in the corner & Ref calls him out while Detroit has no more challenges) & now adjustment of that Rule. The rules are in place to just get it right. They haven’t been calling it all year on other teams. It’s realistically garbage referring caught on tape. Look at last weeks Lions VS Packers game! Horrible bias officiating LJ 88 deserves to lose his job.

  23. wryly1 says: Nov 25, 2012 12:22 PM

    The original intent of the rule was to allow officials to save face – and not have coaches make them look bad. This particular case had the OPPOSITE effect. It allowed a blatantly blown call to effect the outcome of the game.

  24. youngs79 says: Nov 25, 2012 12:32 PM

    Owners or Commissioner. Sorry

  25. melikefootball says: Nov 25, 2012 12:46 PM

    The league office has emplemented so many rules that even player and coaches have no clue. The game has changed where sometimes it does not even resemble the game of football.

  26. cliffordc05 says: Nov 25, 2012 1:52 PM

    If a coach throws a flag on a play that is not reviewable the team should lose that challenge and possibly the timeout associated with the challenge. Scoring plays should still be reviewed.

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