I guess he’s proud of Palmer.

In a nutshell… That’s Raider Nation lol

Have fun with Carson. He will never win you anything. He’s a silver spoon dude. He’s really the anti-raider.

Surprised so many raider fans like him.

Personally I’ll take Zeitler and your top 10 in round 2 in April.

Enjoy.

1. The inadvertent whistle was unfortunate and frankly the Raiders got screwed on the call. I find it hard to believe that the Raiders shouldn’t have at least gotten possession. The whistle came after the fumble, not before.

2. To everyone saying it was an incomplete pass: no it wasn’t. First of all, it just wasn’t. The referee blew the whistle thinking the ball squirted out of bounds, not because he thought it was incomplete. Secondly, the referee said that the ruling on the field was a fumble. So just stop it with this incomplete pass stuff.

3. To everyone saying that this bad call prevented the Raiders from bringing it to 27-17: not so fast. Yes, the recovered fumble was run back into the endzone but only AFTER the whistle had been blown. If you look at the play from some angles you can tell several players stopped playing when the whistle sounded. For instance, I think Marvin Jones probably would have tackled the player that recovered the ball right as he picked it up had the whistle not sounded. Given that, there is no guarantee the Raiders would have scored considering their offensive ineptness the entire game.

4. To everyone saying that the bad call affected the outcome of the game: I disagree. While the Bengals had a pretty forgettable third quarter on offense, the Raiders had nothing to show the other three quarters on offense or defense. Maybe the game would have been closer than it ended up being. Maybe not. Blame the players and coaches for the loss, not the referees. You should never put yourself in the position to allow a single bad call to cost you a game, because there are bad calls and bad non-calls every game. Believe me, as a Bengals fan that watched the Bengals vs. Buccaneers game in 2006 I know.

5. Regarding the brawl, I think the takedown on Andy Dalton that preceded the whole thing was dirty. I wasn’t on the field and therefore couldn’t say one thing or another about how audible the whistle was at the line of scrimmage, but it was clearly audible on television. And it wasn’t just a single blast. The ref repeatedly blew the whistle well before the guy wrapped up Dalton. I find it hard to believe that the players didn’t or couldn’t hear it.

6. I like Andrew Whitworth and his moxie, but I think he overreacted a bit. Standing up for your QB is one thing but there are other, better ways to go about it on a football field. I imagine he’ll get a game suspension for 1) it being the second time he’s been ejected for fighting in a game and 2) his gestures as he was walking out indicating that he seemed to be proud of what he had just done.

Even if the worse case scenario for the Raiders had resulted in an incomplete pass, that still would have been better than the refs giving the Bengals the option to replay the down. The Bengals were able to benefit from the refs’ mistake & that it what enraged the Raiders & their fans. In all my life, I have never seen that call made.

It was another example of the refs failing to “get it right”.

Back to the bad call that I indicated was not a game changer – if the fumble/recovery/Td had counted it still would have been a two score game and didn’t change the fact that the Bengals outplayed the Raiders all day, so again, I stand by my statement that it wasn’t a game changer.

These posts do clarify one thing….hater will always be haters. WHO DEY!!!!

Season ticket holder here so no false claims as we are at EVERY home game…good try though.

That’s when the teams started “playin’ the feud”!

Both teams had several players run onto the field, and (by rule) those should have been ejected. The officals decided to only eject the ones they could clearly make out, as the 22 normal bodies had swelled into the 40′s.

As for Whitworth and his “playing to the crowd”…since I was sitting next to the south tunnel, I can tell you that as he was walking off, the fans started cheering him and he “held his hands up” in acknowledgement…never once doing anything more! The 2 Raiders, on the otherhand, spiked their helmets on the sideline (at least I saw 1 do it) and were still in the process of being escorted off as Dalton was connecting with AJ over the middle!

If you’re going to give your 2 cents, at least make it a full 2 cents…not 1/2 a cent!

it was 27-10……the call took away a td which would have made it 27-17….cincy looked great in first half, and entirely different in second half…..with an entire 4th quarter, and only a10 point lead, don’t know if i buy into that it was not a game changer……in my opinion it was just that

HILARIOUS!!!

You can’t make this stuff up.

I love the “refs robbed us” argument from Raider fan. I’m sure the refs are the reason your pathetic team has now gone a DECADE without a winning record. Commitment to excrement.
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They were robbed on that particular play. If you see it any different then you’re the pathetic troll everyone already knows you to be. Commitment to stupidity.

I dont understand why raiders fans think this changed the game? The raiders were getting manhandled and demolished all game. The bengals had enough points to win in the first quarter.
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The Raiders are a bad team, and they got worked in the first half. But the Bengals came out cold in the third quarter, and Oakland was fighting to get back in the game until that bogus whistle. The Bengals looked as bad in the third quarter as the Raiders did in the first half. I’m not saying that snafu changed the game, but if it happened to the Bengals instead of the Raiders you would look at it differently.

Raiders fans and Joe will neglect to mention how the Raiders body slammed Dalton well after the whistle was blown-no matter what that ass clown Rabdy Cross says.
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Dalton was still moving around with the ball when Houston tackled him. There was no body slam, and if the offense doesn’t stop, you can’t expect the defense to stop, either. What I honestly don’t understand is why the Bengals had the opportunity to take a mulligan on the previous play after the Raiders got jobbed on the quick whistle. Strip, fumble recovery, touchdown? Nope. Free play for the offense. So sorry.

Why would you think the quitter carson palmer is going to do anything worthwile?

You are also straight stupid if you think Andrew whitworth was the aggressor on that play. He was protecting his QB from the cheapshots well after it was apparent the radiers were going home losers.

Where you should be disappointed in the Raiders is in their non-existent first half and the fact that they cried their way out of a stop and getting the ball back after they got screwed. It’s not about the things you can’t control, it’s how resilient you can be with what you can….

What a joke.

As a Raiders fan I am not surprised. One way or another the Raiders are involved in controversial calls and much more often than not get the short end of the stick.

Immaculate Deception, Tuck rule and so on. It’s been going on since Rozelle was commish and will continue to be true.

The league has it in for the RAIDERS, always have.