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Kubiak couldn’t have blocked review by throwing red flag

Texans Lions Football AP

The failure of Lions coach Jim Schwartz to know the rules on Thursday wiped out the replay review of Justin Forsett’s 81-yard I’ve-fallen-and-I-can-get-up touchdown run.

The odd dynamics of a bizarre rule have invited some next-level speculation by plenty of fans, which picked up some credibility today when Rich Eisen of NFL GameDay Morning  raised the question of whether Texans coach Gary Kubiak could have likewise blocked the review of the play by throwing the red flag.

While it’s the logical extension of an illogical rule, the rule would never be interpreted that way.

As NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos explained when he pointed out in the viewing room this strange quirk of the rules well before last Sunday, when it stung the Falcons and coach Mike Smith, the officials won’t allow use of the red flag by a coach who would benefit from the absence of a replay review.

Either way, the rule needs to go away.

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14 Responses to “Kubiak couldn’t have blocked review by throwing red flag”
  1. jaxdolfan says: Nov 25, 2012 9:54 AM

    They are obviously making this up as they go along.

    Almost as bad as the tuck rule.

  2. njkid says: Nov 25, 2012 9:57 AM

    Stupidest rule ever.

  3. mnpacker says: Nov 25, 2012 10:07 AM

    TOUCHDOWN TEXANS!!!!

  4. knon2000 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:14 AM

    Funny, the refs would never allow that to happen. You mean like they never make mistakes that need to be corrected via replay???? Seems that as long as these wanna be refs are out there making bad call after bad call, there is no way that anybody can have ANY confidence in their ability to NOT let that happen.

  5. badmude says: Nov 25, 2012 10:14 AM

    That would’ve been a handy rule during the “tuck rule” play.

  6. rmc1995 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:15 AM

    It was the failure of the refs to whistle the player down that was the real problem.

    I’m sure no one thought this rule would be interpreted to remove the replay of an obvious blown call from the refs made 75 yards from the goal line, epecially since there would be no delay of the next snap and there was no benefit to throw the flag outside of what was already going to happen. But here we are.

    There are also examples this year of coaches who have thrown the flag on plays that cannot be reviewed and simply received an explanation not a penalty.

    Refs misinterpret the rules all the time. Even in the case of Schwartz, they misinterpreted the rule. Why shouldis we trust that if Kubiak threw the red flag it would never ever be interpreted that way?

    Can you point to me where an obscure, new rule has been applied consistently across the NFL by its refs to give the NFL the benefit of the doubt?

  7. noeffinway says: Nov 25, 2012 10:28 AM

    again in your attempt to bash the Lions or their coach you twist the facts.Schwatz had been quoted after the game as saying he knew the rules but he let his emotions take over and he threw it. Not that it makes it any better. So lets drop the “didn’t know the rules” references and report the facts. smh

  8. schmitty2 says: Nov 25, 2012 10:40 AM

    1. It was a crappy call
    2. It is a crappy rule
    3. It was an excellent game that both teams deserved to win

    Can we please move on now?!

  9. robgilman says: Nov 25, 2012 11:04 AM

    No No No, They wouldnt allow a team to use the rule to benefit them. Only to royally screw the team that already had a royally bad call made against them. Gosh ppl duh. The NFL obviously knows what theyre doing here

  10. morm3993 says: Nov 25, 2012 12:36 PM

    Considering that a review would have also “benefited” the Lions, I am not buying that explanation.

  11. crazybeardedjack says: Nov 25, 2012 1:15 PM

    I understand both sides of this. The rule is dumb, and never should have slipped through the cracks in the first place.

    That said, if it’s explained to coaches before each game, and it’s a rule they know, why shouldn’t they be penalized for not knowing it? Players are penalized for not knowing rules, but coaches are above that?

  12. thestrategyexpert says: Nov 25, 2012 3:02 PM

    The rule shouldn’t go away until a new system of rules regarding challenges and replays is implemented or at least overhauled. We don’t need extra and unnecessary stoppages of the game and there is no logical reason for Schwartz to throw the flag there. He is wasting time and causing a distraction and teams should be penalized for not understanding and/or respecting the process. What’s next throwing chairs out on the field to protest? Why not if it’s only a few yards.

    This wouldn’t have been a problem if Schwartz didn’t throw the flag out there without having a logical purpose. Change they system of challenges and replays if you want, but until then teams that act irresponsibly with sideline staff should get heavy penalties, and in this case finally somebody learned a lesson from doing something they shouldn’t be doing in the first place.

  13. jaggedmark says: Nov 26, 2012 6:58 PM

    Great job by you guys, Mike, in posting the answer to her Kubiak flag question. Thanks

  14. macaracoon says: Nov 26, 2012 8:35 PM

    How about this:

    3 guys watch from upstairs, 1 from each team and 1 from the NFL.

    Any play if 2/3 call for a review, it gets reviewed.

    Coaches are not responsible for challenging or not.

    It never made sense to make challenges a coach’s commodity like timeouts. Since getting the call right is the main priority, a review should always be used if a call is in question. My suggestion should result in questionable plays getting reviewed and straightforward plays moving along quickly. Perfect solution if you ask me. Threatening with penalties and time outs almost seems like a weird “oh you’re challenging us, are you?” thing which I don’t think is the point..

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