Comments on: Seahawks seething over roughing the passer call

By: bhwebbsr

bhwebbsr — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:57:11 +0000

Hawkout, the incessant complaining over the hail mary pass is rather pathetic. It’s amazing how team loyalty and bias so easily trumps honesty. Setting aside that play for a moment, I have to ask how Packer fans can, with a straight face, complain about bad calls when the only touchdown Green Bay scored in the game came by virtue of a terrible call. Apparently everybody but Packer fans (and Aaron Rodgers) are willing to acknowledge the phantom pass interference call against Cam Chancellor, which sustained the Packers only touchdown drive. If the refs don’t blow that call (It was as obvious at full speed as it was in slow-motion there was no PI) there is no touchdown (no FG either, they punt). Without THAT call, it is highly likely there is no hail mary pass at the end of the game. The officiating in that game was terrible, but terrible for both teams and the team that should have won did win. Unfortunately, the poor performance of the officiating crew that night made it far more complicated. It’s over…move on. There’s really no point in rehashing the matter especially when half the group has selective memory.

By: hawkout

hawkout — Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:58:28 +0000

Ok people,
The call was clearly a bad call, and he was in the air before Tanehill threw the ball, what is he supposed to do?… Whatever, that games over, we’re still going to make the playoffs. However, the Green Bay game is over as well, I’m getting tired of you you little babies coming on here and talking about that “bad call”, guess what… Those that actually pay attention with an unbiased mind have noticed that Tate had 2 hands on the ball with 2 feet down, which is a touchdown, there’s literally evidence of this… If this was any other team and not Americas Princesses, Green Bay, this call would never have been talked about! So shut up about it already and go back to your normal east coast bias already!

By: pmiller1129

pmiller1129 — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:33:41 +0000

I hate seeing the Packers fans looking for a way to complain on a the Seahawks loss. If you watch the views of the Golden Tate TD catch in Seattle from other views such as Fox local instead of the ESPN replay you would see the evidence that the refs used for the call. He catches the ball and then the CB pulls it out at the end. Of course ESPN is only going to show there view and favor the Packers. Green Bay was on current ESPN mag as their pick as the team to beat. Anyways, onto Seattle. stop playing to not make a mistake and try to force your will on a bad team. Its that simple. Not kicking a 35 yard range field goal? C’mon!!

By: fdugrad

fdugrad — Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:48:47 +0000

No dog in this fight, but I suppose one could say this wipes the “Fail Mary” game off the board and The Hawks are even. The db was in the air and clearly was not trying to cheap shot the qb. Flag should have been kept in the pocket.

By: horses721

horses721 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:08:12 +0000

Not a fan of either team. This is what Goodell is turning the game into. Safety is important but the refs have too much power to make an impact in the game by following his orders. Goodell is sissyfying the game.

By: japmen

japmen — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:40:31 +0000

It was a very bad call but that’s the modern NFL. You touch a QB and he better be running past the LoS or it’s a penalty. Other bad calls like it have been called this and last year. No worse than the stupid Tuck Rule, many pass interference calls, etc. The refs suck

With that said, no one in Seattle should be pissed off. They were handed the most egrarious bad call in the history of the game. Everyone knows it and it caused the replacement refs to be canned almost immediately. It gave them a win, and now Karma gave it right back.

By: studio26seattle

studio26seattle — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 19:06:21 +0000

I do believe the penalty was bogus, but those happen every week and you have to play past that. Truth is without that TD post penalty, Leon Washington does not score a 98 yard kick return on the kick off, still giving the Seahawks a 21-14 lead. Seattle’s defense still blew the lead late in the game letting the Dolphins have 2 more drives for 10 other points.

By: csk4lsu

csk4lsu — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:53:39 +0000

Seattle shouldn’t complain about calls, they got a win out of the worse call in NFL history.

By: hawk4life

hawk4life — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:06:09 +0000

Keep hating Miami we’ll see who goes to the playoffs!! Consider it a gift

By: sfgamblers

sfgamblers — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:53:13 +0000

Get over it fools you lost. What comes around goes around and you deserve this call, whether it was right or wrong.

By: pauleky

pauleky — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 17:50:35 +0000

The “good Lord” was looking out for you? So, by default, he was NOT looking out for the other guys? Seriously – if a “lord” exists, he/she/it has much better things to worry about than a football game. I really don’t care when athletes or musicians spout this god stuff – it’s their right. I just laugh at the hilarity of a god deciding the outcome of a game or who wins a Grammy. As for the call – yeah, it was a bad one, but karma perhaps?

By: scyankee9999

scyankee9999 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:47:26 +0000

Aside from the GB game I would love to hear Seattle fans explain how the Tate catch was not O pass interference. You have a CB turned around playing the ball, perfect position boxing his player out. Playing the ball and Tate uses him as a ladder to get to the ball. There were plenty on bad calls in the game. Every game has them. I do get frustrated when a hand goes up to block a pass and brushes the helmet but the rules are the rules. As such the CB has just as much right to play the ball as the WR. This was clearly a “missed” call that lead to 7pts.

By: northbynw27

northbynw27 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 16:12:16 +0000

So once again, because the hawks benefited from a bad call vs GB (as pivotal as it was), any disagreement has to be silenced?

By: bigjdve

bigjdve — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:15:41 +0000

I think that was a makeup call for the call against the packers.

Now the Seahawks are even and everyone can let it drop.

By: mfinsrule

mfinsrule — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:59:55 +0000

You can NOT hit the QB in the head! How is this even an argument?
There are ebbs and flows of officiating and god knows Miami has been on the wrong end of a lot of them this year. Kind of nice to get a win and have the other team carping about officiating, but the Seahawks? Really? Really? The benificiaries of one of the most egregious calls in NFL history are whining about a call? LMAO

By: uwsptke

uwsptke — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:57:39 +0000

The exact same play happened in the Green Bay/Seattle game. Erik Walden had a pretty ticky-tacky roughing call on Wilson (I believe a rare instance where the player was flagged but not fined) on a pass that was intercepted by Green Bay. And the hit by Thomas was ten times worse. He’s really going to be steamed when he gets fined $15k this week.

How did Pete put it before? “They got the call correct.”

My God, the hypocrisy.

By: jcampol

jcampol — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:47:13 +0000

Can you Seattle fans really complain about the refs with a straight face? You were given 2 blatant no calls that basically gave you the first td scored!! I’m not even gonna talk about the GB game because it’s irrelevant here. But come on! It is the rule, intent or not the rule is the rule. I watched the whole game and if any Seattle fan did there is really no room for complaints about the refs. They were more than lenient all game

By: frankdatank23

frankdatank23 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:43:03 +0000

well the dolphins were furious about a non call on seattle’s first scoring drive….. the difference is that the dolphins overcame the terrible call.

By: magicbucs

magicbucs — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:39:28 +0000

It was actually the right call unlike the call the got vs the packers. He launched himself at the QB and made contact to the QBs helmet = roughing the passer.

GO BUCS!

By: hedleykow

hedleykow — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:34:38 +0000

That call was nonsense.

I miss the old NFL.

By: northbynw27

northbynw27 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:32:27 +0000

Seahawks fan here. I really wish posters would stop blaming Pete and Seahawks fans in general for that GB fiasco. Sure it was the wrong call, but does that mean that as a city and fan base we must remain silent for the rest of our existence when we get hosed in similar fashion?

Dislike Pete for any personal reason you may, but please remember that we didn’t ask for that call vs GB on MNF..we were simply the beneficiary of amateurs entering the professional realm.

By: tfaulk

tfaulk — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:20:59 +0000

It’s a clear violation of the rule. I know some want it to be judged on intent to harm or to be mitigated by effort to avoid or physics, but it’s not.

Also don’t get the rationalization of “I definitely felt the ball was still in his hands…” Huh? If so, that’s horribly bad technique… You shouldn’t jump up and at a QB from 5 yards away if you think you are getting to him before he passes. It looks like you clearly jumped up with your hands extended to block the pass that you just missed blocking… And despite what some are saying: yes, you can jump more vertically from a full run than that — the fact that you chose to go vertical AND forward 5 yards in your jump more or less guarantees that you are coming down on the QB and putting yourself in a position to get called for roughing the passer rather than making a better play on blocking the pass.

By: AlanSaysYo

AlanSaysYo — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:13:53 +0000

The Seahawks could at least pick a call to complain about that was actually unfair. If you hit the QB in the head with your forearm on a flying tackle, you’ll get 15 yards every time.

Both the Golden Tate offensive pass interference tackle that set up the earlier touchdown and the blatant holding on the longest Marshawn Lynch run of the day were actually bad calls. But they went against the winning team, so no one is talking about them.

Maybe Pete could complain that the sprinklers iced his defense.

By: drillbit19k

drillbit19k — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:12:14 +0000

Hmmm. Maybe they should get with Erik walden who was flagged after GB made what would have been a game clinching INT which preceded a phantom PI flag which flipped field position, which also preceded an egregious OPI on Tate which enabled him to catch a ball he never really caught for a gift W.

By: mfpepin

mfpepin — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:08:19 +0000

Sorry, Earl. You still hit him in the head. That’s the rule, as lame as it is. Don’t touch a QB in the head.

By: yooperman

yooperman — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:07:04 +0000

The Seahawks seething about a bad call? Isn’t this the team that got the “mother of all bad calls”?

By: fuglyflorio

fuglyflorio — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:05:27 +0000

Were they ‘seething’ when the replacement refs handed them a win over Green Bay? I seem to remember a much different emotion.

By: justphins

justphins — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:59:48 +0000

The Seahawks bitching about a bad, pivotal call from the refs. That’s rich.

By: cali49er707

cali49er707 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:59:19 +0000

I absolutely agree!!! What a shame for the outcome of the game to be dictated by horrible calls on the field.

Sincerely,

Green Bay fans who were robbed on the Monday night game against Seattle

By: hdahs143

hdahs143 — Mon, 26 Nov 2012 13:58:28 +0000

You can’t touch the QB in the head and neck area. The rule has been in place for a while, and gets called almost every time. Intent or force isn’t part of the equation. The refs have enough to do without trying to gauge what a player meant to do.

Get over it.