Comments on: New court order suggests judge is leaning against NFL in bounty case

By: ghlatty

ghlatty — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:27:08 +0000

mthead55 says:Nov 29, 2012 8:20 PM

So does this suggest the fines levied against players for hits that were not flagged by the refs will have to be refunded? The NFL’s revenue stream generated by their arbitrary fines just might take a hit (as it should).

I’m pretty sure the fine money goes to charity not to the league.

By: dukemarc

dukemarc — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:28:15 +0000

mp42245 says:
Nov 29, 2012 8:10 PM
So far, the only one screwed is Hargrove. He’d be playing already since week 8.

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No, the only ones screwed would be the team who thought Hargrove could play. That guy got cut by the Packers who were in desperate need of help on the D-Line.

By: packhawk04

packhawk04 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:06:10 +0000

The guilty players know theyre guilty, but theyre getting what they want- playing while the courts drag this on. By the time this is over, theyll all be retired.

By: jimr10

jimr10 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:23:13 +0000

Funny that none of the coaches involved ever denied that bounty gate existed.

By: savannahrose44

savannahrose44 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:51:45 +0000

This judge has no business overseeing this case. She went on record publicly before the case was even heard in court saying she would rule in favor of the players.

By: realfann

realfann — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 05:30:20 +0000

@mikeh3775

The players gave Goodell the authority to be fair.

They certainly did not give him the authority to issue capricious, unfair rulings.

Kind of like we’ve recently given Obama authority to govern according to the rule of law. We have not given him authority to break it. As Nixon found out to his cost.

By: chatham10

chatham10 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 04:54:27 +0000

What a shock, a liberal judge who lives in New Orleans sides with the players.

By: cjt5150

cjt5150 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 02:55:15 +0000

Interesting point but irrelevant. It’s not the hits that are the issue, but the pay for performance system that the league ruled was conduct detrimental. And that the Saints were WARNED was inappropriate, so the argument that they don’t know what type of conduct is/isn’t tolerated doesn’t fly.

Show a little character, admit what you did, serve your time, and go away.

By: mikeh3775

mikeh3775 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:48:25 +0000

Except bearnmind, the PLAYERS GAVE IT UP AFTER THE LOCK OUT.

I find it funny how the players are crying about Goodell being the ultimate authority, yet they gave him that authority, when they wanted to end the lockout last year.

By: bearnmind

bearnmind — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:28:26 +0000

All CBAs have to inherently include fairness. Its federal law. The NFL isn’t exempt. If that principle is violated and it certainly appears to have been, then it is a matter for a federal court. And by the way, the location of the court doesn’t give the players any advantage. It’s a Federal court and a appointed Federal judge not an elected state judge.

By: darthsammy

darthsammy — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:25:10 +0000

Well said bootsers!

By: mrpowers88

mrpowers88 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:21:41 +0000

So the fact that the players and coached were organizing this off the field would have nothing to do with it? And under this system, if an illegal hit knocked a player out of a game, they wouldn’t have gotten any $$? (Guess we would have to take the players’ word for it on that one)

And asking for specific examples of conduct detrimental is garbage. Under this reasoning, anything not explicitly defined in the CBA would be allowed to occur without penalty. Like say, if a player paid a hitman to break the opposing team’s star player’s leg the night before a game- the CBA doesn’t say he can’t do that, so he obviously can under the CBA.

By: mthead55

mthead55 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:20:49 +0000

By: djaehne

djaehne — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:20:45 +0000

Sounds unprofessional for a court judge to have a position of any kind before the case is heard.

By: dapros

dapros — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:16:47 +0000

Itrs great to see that a judicial officer can review what Roger thinks he is able to do. He got little carried away. This litigation is not good for the league, but it will be good for the league for a judge to give guidance about the limits of the Commisar’s power.

By: mp42245

mp42245 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:10:37 +0000

So far, the only one screwed is Hargrove. He’d be playing already since week 8.

By: mrlaloosh

mrlaloosh — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:08:04 +0000

I don’t think anyone was “murdered”. The NFL is in a dance to show how “concerned” they are for the safety of players. I think the proposed 18 game schedule and Thursday night football shows they are not at all concerned about anything but the almighty dollar.
Any ruling Judge Berrigan makes will have to be appealed the the US 5th circuit court of appeals in, wait for it, NEW ORLEANS!

By: giantsfanlewis

giantsfanlewis — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:02:17 +0000

Most people realized this when she said she would try to fine any way possible to rule in favor of the players. What’s funny is the neglecting of the judge stating that there was in fact a bounty system

By: threatlevelbob

threatlevelbob — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:55:35 +0000

This entire bountygate escapade has turned into a boondoggle for the league. I have no idea why Goodell is still the commissioner or what they are attempting to gain by prolonging this case.

It seems like as the case drags on the owners continue to lose power to the players association instead of forwarding whatever agenda they had in mind to begin with.

Just end it. Reinstate whoever has been wronged, and more forward. Everyone would be better off if the NFL can move past this.

By: ghjjf

ghjjf — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:51:34 +0000

Does the players suspensions even matter anymore? The suspensions have already been “temporarily lifted” and by the time they are re-instated (if ever) one player is already out of the league and the others will probably be retired by then. None of this matters anymore, they got away with murder.

By: goodellgate

goodellgate — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:45:12 +0000

Harder for Roger to fool someone independant whith his sham : )

By: bootsers

bootsers — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:43:19 +0000

Just rule against the NFL already so it can go to the appeals court and be overturned. Sad day in America when a judge can decides that a contract can be voided because she doesn’t like it. Wonder if that would work for my mortgage too.

By: dolphins512

dolphins512 — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:42:39 +0000

Yawn…

By: RavenzGunnerz

RavenzGunnerz — Fri, 30 Nov 2012 00:41:27 +0000

NFL is wrong in this case, and I am not even a Saints fan.