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Redskins’ Bowen on first Giants game: “We were supposed to win”

New York Giants Victor Cruz runs for the game winning touchdown against the Washington Redskins in the fourth quarter during their NFL football game in East Rutherford Reuters

The Redskins are preparing for a rematch with the Giants on Monday night, a rematch that could pull them within a game of first place in the NFC East. But if the Redskins had won their October game against the Giants, then first place would be on the line Monday night. And that’s what the Redskins think they should be playing for.

We were supposed to win that game,” Redskins defensive end Stephen Bowen told the Washington Times.

The Redskins appeared to have the previous meeting within their grasp when Robert Griffin III hit Santana Moss for a 30-yard touchdown pass that gave Washington a 23-20 lead with a minute and a half to play. Unfortunately, the Redskins’ defense promptly gave up a 77-yard touchdown pass from Eli Manning to Victor Cruz.

Redskins nose tackle Barry Cofield said he still wonders why the Redskins gave up that big play at the worst time.

“You go back and watch the tape, and you feel good about what you’re putting out there. Snap for snap you evaluate, you grade yourself and you feel like you did some things well and you appreciate that,” Cofield said. “But at the same time you still look back and think, ‘What if?’ And the only way to erase that is by winning this week.”

Griffin, meanwhile, calls it, “A game we should have won.” If the Redskins want to catch the Giants in the NFC East, they’re going to have to forget the “should haves” and “supposed tos” and get a win on Monday night that actually counts on the scoreboard and in the standings.

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  1. rg3andthensome says: Dec 1, 2012 9:38 AM

    We’ll be ready… Used to be our worst games were in the national spotlight….RG3 has changed that phenomenon. We are better under pressure now.

    No more…”Oh no, everyone will be watching….”

    Now it is,
    “That’s right…Everyone will be watching.”

  2. kokomike says: Dec 1, 2012 9:39 AM

    For more than a dozen years, the Redskins didn’t know how to win games. They routinely lost games they should have won. That seems to have changed. We’ll see on Monday night.

  3. omen316 says: Dec 1, 2012 9:47 AM

    Lets go Giants !!

  4. pftcensorssuck says: Dec 1, 2012 9:50 AM

    Now it is,
    “That’s right…Everyone will be watching.”

    “For more than a dozen years, the Redskins didn’t know how to win games. They routinely lost games they should have won. That seems to have changed. We’ll see on Monday night.”
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    Umm… why all the “love” for the ‘skins, people?

    Last I looked, they were a below .500 team with a 5-6 record.

    I guess 5-6 is the new 9-2????

  5. pftcensorssuck says: Dec 1, 2012 9:52 AM

    By the way, the only game you “should have won”, is a game you DID win.

    Just sayin’

  6. pixelito says: Dec 1, 2012 9:53 AM

    Victor Cruz has that effect on teams…

  7. NJJohn says: Dec 1, 2012 9:59 AM

    There go those Giants again talking trash…wait, what?

  8. landoverleap says: Dec 1, 2012 10:22 AM

    we should have beat carolina; good teams done lose those games. So i dont have a lot of hope for Monday. I dont think this team has changed that much just because we won two in a row. I agree with pftsensor. just 5-6.

  9. ceschatz says: Dec 1, 2012 10:31 AM

    but you didn’t win

  10. bkeating51 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:32 AM

    The Redskins should have won? Why? Because they were beaten on a long pass from Manning to Cruz in the last two minutes.?

    With the Redskins ranked 31st in passing yards allowed and the Giants’ offense ranked 9th in passing yards with a specialty in long passes, I guess the Redskins think that they should win this one too.

  11. thesmartestmanever says: Dec 1, 2012 10:41 AM

    I understand where Bowen is coming from. unfortunately in real life when you let opportunities slip away rarely do you get another chance to prove yourself. This is going to be a great game. I can hardly wait

  12. kev86 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:43 AM

    Add Skins to list of teams that say they beat themselves against the world champions. Long list.

  13. boyshole25 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:52 AM

    Your record says what your team is period As a life long skins fan though its fairly obvious that this team is finally on the rise and will be a competitor for years to come

  14. kwickett85 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:56 AM

    kev86 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:43 AM

    Add Skins to list of teams that say they beat themselves against the world champions. Long list.

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    Well they had no problem sweeping them last year with Rex Grossman at QB.

    Sadly this year the secondary has cost the Redskins a few games….Giants game, Cincy game, Rams game.

  15. jamesbarnes says: Dec 1, 2012 10:57 AM

    kev86 says: Dec 1, 2012 10:43 AM

    Add Skins to list of teams that say they beat themselves against the world champions. Long list.

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    There’s also a pretty short list of teams that swept the “world champions” last year.

  16. timezyourz says: Dec 1, 2012 11:08 AM

    Wow Bowen way to go now your going to get lambasted. Every team ‘ought to have beat the Giants’ or ‘beat themselves while playing the Giants’ until they don’t

    This message from an Eagles fan and yes I am personally embarrassed this year with my team.

  17. rg3some says: Dec 1, 2012 11:18 AM

    Really Stephen, just shut up and play.

  18. compton1 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:21 AM

    redskins are getting WHOOPED on MNF

  19. lakermetskins says: Dec 1, 2012 11:34 AM

    The skins were supposed to beat the Cardinals- until J. Morgan forgot you can’t throw a football at the opponent.

    How about the lame effort against the Panthers.

    We will never be top-notch until we learn how to win games we are SUPPOSED to win!

    It all starts Monday night against a team we know we can beat.

  20. rcb0424 says: Dec 1, 2012 11:34 AM

    @jamesbarnes

    The fact your still grasping onto beating the giants twice last year is truly pathetic and shows how irrelevant the skins have become with fans needing to cite meaningless games to talk smack.

    Crawl back in a hole until you can grasp at tangible evidence such as division titles first, playoff wins second, NFC titles, and finally championships. Remember, take baby steps son. That playoff win over Tampa bay as a wild card was a LONG time ago.

  21. jwreck says: Dec 1, 2012 11:57 AM

    pftcensorssuck says: Dec 1, 2012 9:50 AM

    Now it is,
    “That’s right…Everyone will be watching.”

    “For more than a dozen years, the Redskins didn’t know how to win games. They routinely lost games they should have won. That seems to have changed. We’ll see on Monday night.”
    ———————————————————

    Umm… why all the “love” for the ‘skins, people?

    Last I looked, they were a below .500 team with a 5-6 record.

    I guess 5-6 is the new 9-2????
    _______
    Just a wild guess, but I would hazard the two comments you cited were both by Redskins fans. I know it sounds crazy, but most fans’ allegiances don’t change when their team’s record drops below 500.

  22. skins23 says: Dec 1, 2012 12:00 PM

    They should have won, but didnt. Season high in turnovers, couple of terrible calls that took 11 points off the board, and a blown coverage by backup safety.

    Fine, Monday’s the chance to make amends.

  23. giants56 says: Dec 1, 2012 12:01 PM

    “We should have won”~ is the new~ ” we beat ourselves”!

  24. skinsgal4life says: Dec 1, 2012 12:11 PM

    The only thing that matters is the final score. Go ‘Skins!!!!

  25. nananatman says: Dec 1, 2012 12:25 PM

    You only lost cause RG3 missed the Easter Bunny streaking wide open down the sideline. Go Giants!!

  26. boyshole25 says: Dec 1, 2012 12:34 PM

    No worries giants fans are just used to losing a game or two and trying to fire the best coach In the history of New York. Skins fans are loyal no matter what. Take notes ny fans take notes

  27. bigwayne75 says: Dec 1, 2012 12:41 PM

    One thing the Giants are good at, are rematches example SF and the GB last season. The Giants must really want to put a hurting on the Skins, I haven’t heard any trash talking from the Giants for this game.

    Giants’ Osi had a big game last weekend, if he is starting to play like his younger days, the Giants D-line will be scary.

    Eli lite up that secondary last time, he will do it again. RG3 will have a huge but I don’t think he can go blow for blow with Eli, just because the Giants have the better WR core, and better defense. If the Giants can’t stop the Skins run game, it could be trouble for the Giants. If the Giants get up by 14 or more points early on the Skins, I believe it will be a long losing day for the Skins. This should be a good game and I wish this game was playing right now, I can’t wait.

  28. bigwayne75 says: Dec 1, 2012 12:43 PM

    boyshole25 says:
    Dec 1, 2012 12:34 PM
    No worries giants fans are just used to losing a game or two and trying to fire the best coach In the history of New York. Skins fans are loyal no matter what. Take notes ny fans take notes

    0 0
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    Didn’t last year and early this season, skins fans wanted their head coach fired.

  29. duncanthecat says: Dec 1, 2012 12:49 PM

    Giant’s D gave up 485 yds in the first meeting. Over 200 yds on the ground. Same holes this time around. Redskins by 14 if they can play a turnover free game.

  30. bigwayne75 says: Dec 1, 2012 1:34 PM

    duncanthecat says:
    Dec 1, 2012 12:49 PM
    Giant’s D gave up 485 yds in the first meeting. Over 200 yds on the ground. Same holes this time around. Redskins by 14 if they can play a turnover free game.
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    Giants D is playing better now, yes the Skins are playing better too. I just trust a team that been there done that, that knows how to win the big games , they did it so many times, until the Skins have won a few big games, I will go with the Giants against the Skins every time.

  31. blu4l1fe says: Dec 1, 2012 1:44 PM

    Coulda, woulda, shoulda… Wow, I guess people just can’t avoid these things. Come on guys, this is looking like grade school with the back and forth on who’s going to win. It is an important game for both teams, but as with previous seasons, all that matters is the last team standing.

    We’ll see who really is a better team.

    Go Big Blue!!!

  32. egal99 says: Dec 1, 2012 1:55 PM

    These teams love motivating the Giants. I noticed the Gmen are very quiet this week. Much like they were before walloping the Niners and Packers. Redskins should be studying. Not yapping nonsense at the defending champs. You got beat by a great QB making a lethal read with his receiver. Rg3 can dazzle all he wants, but Eli Manning has shown that one quick strike is all it takes. Hey Redskins! Stop poking the NY Ninja at QB!

  33. drewfl says: Dec 1, 2012 2:57 PM

    The Packers and 49ers both openly expressed they felt they should’ve won in playoffs. See how those rematches played out? A combined 64-13 rout between the two.

  34. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 1, 2012 3:05 PM

    Here we go.

    They talk about two flags, which were both called correctly, mind you, but like to overlook the fact that Eli had TWO SURE TD passes to Bennett and Hixon where he simply made horrible throws. Giants “should have” won going away.

  35. jaymc1988 says: Dec 1, 2012 4:42 PM

    ok so that makes redskins, GB , SF and i believe one other team the giants beat that should of actually won..

    man i didnt know giants were that good they can play mindtricks on the opponent to make them lose to themselves..if Eli isnt elite idk what elite is .. JEDI MIND TRICKS ELI

  36. pftcensorssuck says: Dec 1, 2012 4:55 PM

    jwreck says:Dec 1, 2012 11:57 AM

    Just a wild guess, but I would hazard the two comments you cited were both by Redskins fans. I know it sounds crazy, but most fans’ allegiances don’t change when their team’s record drops below 500.
    ———————————————————
    I was a fan of the Patriots even when they went 2-14 ….. at no time did I have delusions of them being anything but a 2-14 team.

    Not saying they should drop their allegiiances, Francis, just keep a grasp on the reality that your team is 5-6, and nowhere NEAR a playoff-caliber team.

  37. bkeating51 says: Dec 2, 2012 12:07 AM

    Well, safety Kenny Phillips won’t play which increases the Redskins chance of winning from slim to possible.

    Actually I’m glad to see the Redskins rise again while at the same time the Eagles look like they have some bad seasons in front of them.

    Washington has been out of it for too long in a division that prides itself on being the strongest in the NFC.

    Just don’t expect too much too soon. Even if you get past the Giants, what will Rodgers and Ryan do to your pass defense?

  38. defscottyb says: Dec 2, 2012 1:42 AM

    I think the Redskins are a better team than the Giants and not just because I am a Skins fan. The Skins gave that first meeting with the Giants away, we had it won with one stop with a minute left. I used to have no respect for Eli Manning and thought he was a punk but I must admit now that he is a very good qb. I think it will be a great game and an offensive shootout. Redskins 38 Giants 31. Hail!

  39. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 2, 2012 1:10 PM

    bkeating51 says: Dec 2, 2012 12:07 AM

    Well, safety Kenny Phillips won’t play which increases the Redskins chance of winning from slim to possible.

    Actually I’m glad to see the Redskins rise again while at the same time the Eagles look like they have some bad seasons in front of them.

    Washington has been out of it for too long in a division that prides itself on being the strongest in the NFC.

    Just don’t expect too much too soon. Even if you get past the Giants, what will Rodgers and Ryan do to your pass defense?
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    Kenny is pushing to play and Tom wants him to play. He is a game time decision, not declared out.

  40. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Dec 3, 2012 3:56 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 2, 2012 1:10 PM

    bkeating51 says: Dec 2, 2012 12:07 AM

    Well, safety Kenny Phillips won’t play which increases the Redskins chance of winning from slim to possible.

    Actually I’m glad to see the Redskins rise again while at the same time the Eagles look like they have some bad seasons in front of them.

    Washington has been out of it for too long in a division that prides itself on being the strongest in the NFC.

    Just don’t expect too much too soon. Even if you get past the Giants, what will Rodgers and Ryan do to your pass defense?
    ——————-

    Kenny is pushing to play and Tom wants him to play. He is a game time decision, not declared out.
    ——————-
    And to be honest, Stevie Brown has been a good replacement. Not sure if Kenny playing or not playing is a game changer. Fully fit hes a very good player but in his current state, Stevie Brown is on par maybe better.

  41. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 3, 2012 4:29 PM

    Oh yes it is a game changer.

    Unless you trust Sash or Will Hill as the other safety playing double high, which no one in their right mind should at this point.

    Kenny playing tonight allows Rolle to stay in the box and help contain Griffin. How this is not readily obvious to any Giants fan going into this game is beyond me.

  42. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 3, 2012 4:31 PM

    And it also allows for Rolle AND Phillips (or Brown, depending on Fewell’s call on a particular snap) to better assist in run support on Morris — and not spend 2/3 of the game in a trail or tilted reacting to the run, which is what happened in the first game.

  43. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Dec 3, 2012 5:05 PM

    Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 3, 2012 4:29 PM

    Unless you trust Sash or Will Hill as the other safety playing double high, which no one in their right mind should at this point.

    Kenny playing tonight allows Rolle to stay in the box and help contain Griffin. How this is not readily obvious to any Giants fan going into this game is beyond me.
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    Point is; with Phillips injured he is a liability. You are obvious unfamiliar with the Giants philosophy of; sum of the parts. Phillips nor any other defensive and offensive player other thank Eli is a complete game changer. We are a team built with depth bc that’s what wins late in the season. Rather than have a half able player play we can bring a replacement in who is up to speed and able to fit into the machine that is the 2012 reigning world champions. Replacing Phillips with Stevie Brown will not hurt us like it would hurt the Steelers replacing Polamalu on the or the Ravens replac. Reed. Stevie has the speed and awareness to cover for Rolle, 5 interceptions on the year has to count for something in regards to coverage and field awareness. furthermore we dont play run capable QBs that way, with a spy. We will overload his strong side forcing him to move towards his weak side and limit his options. Come on, Giants 101 here.

  44. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Dec 3, 2012 5:20 PM

    And it also allows for Rolle AND Phillips (or Brown, depending on Fewell’s call on a particular snap) to better assist in run support on Morris — and not spend 2/3 of the game in a trail or tilted reacting to the run, which is what happened in the first game.
    __________

    To be honest we don’t have the tackling ability and closing speed at the LB position to stop the run effectively. That being said the Redskins don’t have have the defense to stop us from throwing points on the board, forcing them to abandon the run playing catch-up. The Giants need to focus on; 1. Getting an early lead 2. pressuring RG3 into making throws on the run towards his weak side, He will eventually make a mistake. We employed this tactic against the Godly Holy Eagles, (GMen’s Daddy, My Daddy) during the miracle at the Meadowlands until we abandoned that plan in and allowed Dad to beat us for the worst loss in Giants history.

  45. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 3, 2012 5:50 PM

    Please save the attempts at condescension, you’ve got the wrong one. I know what I am talking about. Phillips changes the looks Fewell will offer, but it is not as if he isn’t prepared to go without him.

  46. giantsfanbuteaglesownussoimaeaglesfan says: Dec 3, 2012 7:12 PM

    No intent to condescend. Fewell will not change any approach bc of Phillips inclusion or exclusion other than to cover Phillips from isolation against the run bc of his weak range due to his injury. The style of play by the Skins demands pressure from the outside with a floating linebacker. Safety is really a non issue with zone coverage. Now against a pocket QB with lower likelihood of scramble an good play action, Phillips intuition is a help. My main point is to look at what Stevie has done, has he not shown range, tackling, intuition and coverage well beyond what Kenny has produced this year? Stevie is a very good safety.

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