Comments on: Steelers finally beat Ravens without Roethlisberger

By: steel420

steel420 — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:39:58 +0000

There’s no better week than the week after beating the Ravens.

By: steeldominance

steeldominance — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:26:08 +0000

This game is a laugher if Roethlisberger plays. Maybe Flacco should define what he means by “elite”. “Elite” quarterbacks win Super Bowls, Marino is the exception to the rule. And winning a Super Bowl is something Flacco will never do.

By: Deb

Deb — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 19:19:43 +0000

And I can count, too.

By: sweetcarl

sweetcarl — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 05:25:48 +0000

Great game Baltimore. I almost turned the tv off in the 4th quarter. Steelers needed it more and they got it. If I was a Ravens fan I would be pissed about not running Ray Rice more. Go Steelers.

By: johntonioholmes

johntonioholmes — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:52:45 +0000

charmcityravens

And by the way, Roethlisberger has lost 4 times to the Ravens. He has basically owned them since 2006.

He makes Ed Reed and Ray Lewis look like average players (partially because Ray Lewis has been average since 2006), yet you say he’s not so good. Which is it? Are the Ravens just that average, or is Roethlisberger good?

By: troy43mvp

troy43mvp — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 23:06:34 +0000

Just goes to show how stupid it was to have Leftwich, a stationary target who has to wind up even more than Tebow to throw a pass, as second string, and Batch, a guy that can still MOVE around and buy time, and can still PLAY, as third string.

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Batch was hurt at the time. Leftwich had to play the first game against the Ravens…Oh and as if Batch isn’t a stationary target?

By: waynefontes

waynefontes — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:44:19 +0000

All the credit in the world to the Steelers. They came into Baltimore and won when nobody gave them a chance.

By: CKL

CKL — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:28:11 +0000

@ Deb (good to see you here!)

I’m not saying he doesn’t help them win, I’m saying that some of the media & fans go overboard in crediting QBs in general and some more than others.

One of my favorite Pats seasons was 08 when an unknown named Cassel was put in the position of starting QB for my Pats and the staff, the player and his teammates all worked hard to lead them to an 11-5 record.

I think TB is fantastic and I wouldn’t trade him for any other QB, but I feel that the Pats are also better when they don’t have to rely on him/pass offense as much. Yesterday’s game in Mia was awesome for me because TB wasn’t that good (for him), but the run game and defense won it. If he had LeBeau’s defenses he could go back to being more of a link in the chain like BR is. That’s when my team won SBs (other than 04, when Pats O was pretty dang good also, but it was BALANCED). And that’s why yours and other fans’ teams do as well, IMO.

By: mickmars

mickmars — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:54:25 +0000

As someone who has zero rooting interest in that game, I’m happy for “Charlie Bucket” (Batch). Guy played a helluva game for just coming out of mothballs last week.

By: mostlombardisintheleague

mostlombardisintheleague — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:31:59 +0000

@bobzilla, chances that Ben connects with Wallace in the end zone moments before the half in yesterday’s game = 100%. That would have eliminated the need for the last field goal and made the win much easier.

By: furbsfromtheburgh

furbsfromtheburgh — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:10:02 +0000

I’ve lived in Pittsburgh for over 40 years and I have the utmost respect for the Ravens. Beating them with a third string Q-back really is a great accomplishment even if the Ravens didn’t play their A-game. While personally I get much more enjoyment seeing the Steelers beat the Bengals than the Ravens, I get more satisfaction from a win against the Ravens. Hats off to both teams and I look forward to a possible rubber match in the playoffs when hopefully both teams will be healthy.

By: holeinone09

holeinone09 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:49:49 +0000

Deb, both bobzilla and citizenstrange have obvious problems with Ben, to me almost obsessive. If you listen to them, you would think Ben played all 22 positions when they don’t win (ie it was ALL his fault), but he has nothing to do with it when they do win. While Ben isn’t perfect either on or off the field (who is?), I agree he is the best QB Steelers have had since Bradshaw and is the key reason the Steelers were able to go back and win a couple Super Bowls since Bradshaw left. Ben played key roles in helping those teams reach the Super Bowls. He has taken a beating behind an average or below OL for years and has made good plays out of nothing. He will never have the Peyton or Brady or Brees passing stats, but none of them can do what Ben does when he has to scramble or take a hit. I also agree, you can cheer for a player without putting him on the life’s hero pedestal. Maybe bob can’t do that.

By: Deb

Deb — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:28:27 +0000

No, the Steelers are not a one-man team. And I appreciate that bobzilla and CKL have issues with Roethlisberger. I’ve had issues as well. But the fact remains that we went 26 years without a championship between Terry and Ben. You can argue Ben’s stats up and down, and you can make the case that his Super Bowl stats aren’t what they should have been. And it won’t change the fact that his presence on the team was the difference between getting close and getting the cigar.

In 2005, we wouldn’t have made the Super Bowl without his magic on that playoff run. In 2008, he engineered that final drive. Santonio didn’t throw the ball to himself. Yes, our defense did the work in 2010. But our defenses and o-lines and receivers and running backs were stellar during that 26 years. What we lacked was the QB, the team leader, the guy who makes things happen in the unlikeliest circumstances. Ben is flawed. But he’s that guy. We have three AFC Championship trophies and two Lombardis because we found that missing piece. That’s not hero worship because he’s not my hero. That’s just a fact.

By: rolloxd

rolloxd — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:27:49 +0000

The Steelers outplayed BAL in damn near every phase of the game.

I laugh at Raven fans who think they deserved to win, pssshh. Good luck in the playoffs guys, with your Wannabe elite QB and you ELITE RB who’s OC cant even get him the ball.

Good luck.

By: maneough2b

maneough2b — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:39:39 +0000

The Steelers are still playing just enough to survive with or without Ben. I realize not a full crew but they do not act like they want to win. Mike Wallace is mad he is there and does very little to impress or really try like a true star should. Please all players – YOU ONLY HAVE TO WORK 17 DAYS!!! If you do not like it go get another job!! Most starting players making mistakes that should not be made and penalties that should not happen. This is not Pop Warner football anymore! Sick of the injury issue – need to be better conditioned and need to train the backups better. Not satisfied – sorry.

By: theravens1

theravens1 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:34:43 +0000

Stupid play calling! And very poor execution and decision making at QB. We needed to string along some 1st downs in the 4th quarter, not fog the ball 80 yards down the field and waist a down, then throw it behind the line of scrimmage when we need 10 yards!

The Steelers played well, and Charlie Batch played like he knew what had to be done to win the game, and he did it.

Our team put no pressure on him! There were no bull rushes up the middle from our big me, and little pressure from the outside – he had WAY too much time!

We had a few players that played hard, but many took plays off.

The play calling, and QB decisions were horrible. It was like the team just showed up. That includes the coaches – major disappointment with a lot on the line!

Only the fans showed up to defend the house!

By: bobzilla1001

bobzilla1001 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:22:27 +0000

Steelerswhatever:
I’m pretty sure you’re guy who predicted a decisive Ravens win this week. You’re also the guy who said the Steelers only scored two touchdowns during their 3-1 Ben-less start to the 2010 season.
You have zero credibility, Booboo.
Bye now …

By: olcap

olcap — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:18:12 +0000

Who are the dummies who made such an egregious mistake as this, and still call themselves “knowledgeable”?

By: troy43mvp

troy43mvp — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:37:32 +0000

I hope Ben has a good week of practice. He is the “timing belt” of the offense.

By: sudz28

sudz28 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:09:17 +0000

The really irritating thing was all the Ratbird fans who came on here to crow (get it?) 2 weeks ago and invariably started out “CUE THE WHINING STEELERS FAN ABOUT BEN BEING OUT!” when none of us were. Great game last night, another one for the books in the best rivarly in the NFL! I think we all agree we’d love a third matchup, hopefully next time with all our starters in.

By: ialwayswantedtobeabanker

ialwayswantedtobeabanker — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 13:09:31 +0000

The Ravens were missing a couple of old guys, but Pittsburgh had:

No Ben. No Leftwich. Oldest non-kicker in the league behind Center. No Gilbert. No DeCastro. No Adams. No Woodley. A compromised Troy playing on a snapcount. And all on the road.

The Ravens can eke past the Steelers — but generally only when Ben is not playing. Aside from the non-Ben games, the Steelers have clearly been on the better side of this rivalry.

By: mrhojorisin

mrhojorisin — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:06:55 +0000

Did I miss a post from ravenator?

By: steelersownyou

steelersownyou — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 10:29:53 +0000

@bobzilla. Don’t get excited ther bobo. Steelers are 1-6 without Ben at qb against the ravens. And 9-4 against them when he starts. So maybe not a 1 man team, but let’s just say as close as a team can get.

By: theageofquarrel

theageofquarrel — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 09:18:39 +0000

Looks like the Ravens got Batch slapped to me!!!

By: bujuman69

bujuman69 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 08:30:18 +0000

The Terrible Towel curse lives on! Thanks Ray Rice. The ratbirds will lose their remaining games. Ha!

By: toppdogg51

toppdogg51 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:54:45 +0000

@ jgrange08
You forgot to add RGIII and Andrew Luck to your list.

By: codysteeler

codysteeler — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 07:30:26 +0000

Been a quite 2 weeks for us steeler fans…things picking up stream with this win and possibility for Ben to play next week…will be fun to watch AFC playoff picture unfold

By: CKL

CKL — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:54:14 +0000

@ bobzilla, glad you showed up, I was getting ready to puke at some of those comments.
The closest thing the Steelers come to being a one man team is if they are referring to Dick LeBeau when they say it.

By: harbingeroftruth

harbingeroftruth — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 06:42:10 +0000

Damn even the Cleveland Browns were able to shutdown pittsburgh.

By: mlbbal52

mlbbal52 — Mon, 03 Dec 2012 05:02:37 +0000

Respect to the real Steeler fans who said this was a good game. To the fake ones who keep say “Lost to a 37 year old 3rd string QB” you are the same ones that if they had lost you would have said “you shoulda won we dont have been and we played our 37 year old 3rd string QB”. Some of you have no class. Big up to the Steelers you played a good game and that Defense is great. For us Ravens fans we need a QB who can make the big play when its needed and a Offensive coordinator who doesn’t call such lame predictable plays. No excuses here we had a chance to put em away and we lost.