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Teammate says Russell Wilson is “a little better than” Luck, RGIII

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Is the best rookie quarterback Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin III? One Seahawks player says none of the above.

Seahawks cornerback Richard Sherman believes Seattle’s Russell Wilson is actually the best rookie quarterback, and the hype surrounding Luck and RGIII says more about the way the media hypes certain players than anything else.

“They’re going to hype who they’re going to hype, and you’re in the Seattle market, and it doesn’t matter what you do,” Sherman told Mike Garafolo of USA Today. “He’s beat the Bears, the Packers, the Patriots. You show me another quarterback with his resume, and I’ll show you a great quarterback. But he doesn’t get the credit because they don’t want to give him the credit. They don’t want to make him a big name. They make the guys a big name who they want to make a big name. He’s a great quarterback, and he’s probably a little better than those guys.”

Wilson had an outstanding game against the Bears on Sunday, completing 23 of 37 passes for 293 yards, with two touchdowns and no interceptions, while also running for 71 yards. But while it’s nice of Sherman to give Wilson the credit, the Seahawks’ defense is a much bigger reason than Wilson for the fact that Seattle is 7-5 and in good shape to earn a playoff berth.

The Redskins, on the other hand, have a mediocre defense. And the Colts have a terrible defense. So when Griffin and Luck are winning games, they’re having to do a lot more of it themselves. It’s interesting that when Sherman mentions that Wilson beat the Packers, he doesn’t mention that Wilson was 9-of-20 for 106 yards until the replacement refs gifted him with a touchdown pass on what should have been an interception on the final play of a game that the Seahawks should have lost 12-7. Luck beat the Packers, too, only Luck did it by throwing for 362 yards in a 30-27 win.

None of this is meant as a criticism of Wilson, who is having an excellent rookie year. But Griffin has 127 more passing yards than Wilson even though Wilson has played one more game, and Luck — who has had to play from behind because of the Colts’ terrible defense — has 1,252 more passing yards than Wilson.

If the 2012 NFL draft could be done over again, I have no doubt that the Colts would still take Luck first and the Redskins would take Griffin second, and neither team would even consider taking Wilson. But say this for Wilson’s great rookie year: If they could do the draft over again, he’d be more likely to go third overall than to last into the third round.

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110 Responses to “Teammate says Russell Wilson is “a little better than” Luck, RGIII”
  1. mjbulls45 says: Dec 3, 2012 6:42 AM

    RG3 is in the heavyweight division, not just for this year, but in general, NFC EAST ALWAYS LEGIT and huge media markets

  2. logicalvoicesays says: Dec 3, 2012 6:44 AM

    In regards to being better than Robert Griffin, hook him up to a lie detector and I guarantee he fails with flying colors.

    But Wilson is way better than Luck. Only RGIII and Wilson will have long term success from the 2012 QB Class.

  3. logicalvoicesays says: Dec 3, 2012 6:47 AM

    Oh and don’t forget…Pete Caroll looked at RGIII’s game film to help Wilson. Boom.

  4. patfic15 says: Dec 3, 2012 6:49 AM

    Probably the loudest fart noise I’ve made with my mouth in quite some time upon reading that title.

  5. footballfan46273 says: Dec 3, 2012 6:50 AM

    Sorry Sherman, he didn’t beat the Packers. He threw an interception as time expired.

  6. dlc618 says: Dec 3, 2012 6:53 AM

    Um…..no

  7. bdub843 says: Dec 3, 2012 6:54 AM

    Here comes another 4 game suspension for testing positive for crack cocaine because he is obviously smoking some.

  8. jojopuppyfish says: Dec 3, 2012 7:05 AM

    As a bears fan, don’t doubt Wilson. He’s the real deal. He wins ugly, though

  9. lawlok says: Dec 3, 2012 7:05 AM

    Wilson has a better completion percentage, YPA, number of passin TDs, and half the INTs of Luck. Andy does have him beat on yards though, with 200 more passing attempts.

    But yeah, Russell Wilson can’t be any good because he’s not on a garbage team like the Colts or Redskins.

    Bobby Griffin certainly has the argument to be the #1 so far, though. However, let’s get real dude above, the NFC East is awful, awful, awful.

  10. kane337 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:06 AM

    But he also lost to the Cardinals, Rams, Lions, and Dolphins. All have losing records.

  11. gweez76 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:10 AM

    Skins D is mediocre? Skins D is awful.

    Like Wilson. Great value pick.

    You can compare him to Luck because Luck is a turnover machine.

    RG3 blows him away. Better percentage, yards, rushing yards, turnover ratio, YPP and TDs.

    It’s not close.

  12. bucfan7911 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:27 AM

    I am not going to try and take anything from Wilson, but lets remember something. He has had the benefit for most of the year, of having a great defense. That can really do wonders for a QB.

    Can you imagine if Luck had the Seattle Defense? He’d probably have 2 more wins at the very least. Luck doesn’t have a lot around him and has a very poor Offensive line, and while he’s made mistakes, he has done very well given the state of the Colts needs.

    Having said that, all three QBs have performed very well and I hope all three get even better and they are still around years from now in this league as seasoned veterans.

  13. bolts0621 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:45 AM

    Wilson has shown great accuracy and the ability to not turn the ball over. RG3 has been better, question I have is can his game be sustained over time. Luck is good- but the guy is a turnover machine – he has 2.5x more INT’S as Wilson and his QB rating is more in the Phillip Rivers range (75) than that of Wilson who is well over 90.

  14. jayhwk75 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:49 AM

    You may want to check your statistics.. The Redskins Defense is MUCH worse than the Colts.

  15. seattle2toronto12thmanconnection says: Dec 3, 2012 7:49 AM

    Luck plays in the AFC South and hasn’t even played the Texans yet. Speaking of gifted tds, how about that TNF game against the Jaguars. Luck “runs” it in, its questionable, and refs spend like 5 seconds reviewing it. Like OMG it was the first overall pick! No way he’s on my fantasy team TD! Biggest on air and on field bj of any qb outside of Brady I’ve seen in a long time. Oh ya and Luck lost to the Jaguars once.

  16. crazycane says: Dec 3, 2012 7:49 AM

    Wilson won using his legs, not his arm.

  17. clw1906 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:53 AM

    Just stupidity. They are three legitimate franchise QBs leave it at that.

  18. ebrownwareagle says: Dec 3, 2012 7:54 AM

    RG3… 2497 passing yards 16TD/8int 2 fumbles 653 rushing yards 6TDs (3rd passer rating)

    Andrew Luck… 3596 passing yards 18TDs/16 Ints/5 Fumbles 216 rushing yards 5TDs (29th in passer rating)

    Russell Wilson… 2344 Passing Yards 19TDs/8ints/3fumbles 298 rushing yards (7th in passer ratings)

  19. richwizl says: Dec 3, 2012 7:59 AM

    One thing is clear; Wilson is an excellent QB and will get even better. You can count on him being good enough in the big games to help your team win.

  20. trollhammer20 says: Dec 3, 2012 8:01 AM

    Here’s an interesting debate: Would you rather have RGIII as your starting QB….or Russell Wilson and three first-round picks?

    Something else to consider: Griffin and Luck were anointed starters on the day they were drafted, and had entire training camps as #1s. Wilson was in the com-Pete-ition and split practice reps three ways with Tavaris Jackson and Matt Flynn. If Wilson steps into camp with the same pedigree and is #1 all the way through camp, how much better would he have been at the start of the season?

    I don’t think there’s a loser in this “who has the better QB” debate. RGIII has been spectacular, Luck has shown remarkable tenacity (he was below 50 percent completions and threw three picks yesterday, but, in the end, did what he had to do to win the game), and Wilson hasn’t thrown an INT in a month, and has a shot to tie or break Peyton Manning’s rookie TD pass record….only, Manning threw 28 picks that first season, while Wilson has 8 in 12 games.

  21. S.Nevada says: Dec 3, 2012 8:16 AM

    He’s worthy of being in the conversation at least.

    I like Wilson, he’s got a lot of fight in him. Reminds me a lot of a young Brees.

    Also, Luck better watch the turnovers. He’s slowly starting to look a lot like Rex Grossman. Lots of passing yards and attempts, and LOTS of turnovers.

  22. ketch20too says: Dec 3, 2012 8:25 AM

    You are correct the Hawks D is why they are 7-5 instead of 9-3 or 10-2. Blow leads, consistently allow opponents to convert 3rd and looongs, stupid, undisciplined penalties, Bradley’s garbage deep zone, let the WR catch anything and everlasting was on perfect display on Marshall’s 56 yard pass catch with 10 seconds left in a game that was in the bag.

    Wilson better than RGIII or Luck..not so much. Certainly a very good QB with tremendous leadership skills and a winner at every football stop, but let’s see how he does with training wheels off first.

  23. n0hopeleft says: Dec 3, 2012 8:33 AM

    Wilson and Luck have their team in the playoffs.

    RG3, the savior, still has a losing record – and wont be making the playoffs.

    I dont see what is so hard to understand here.

  24. 2ndaryinsanity says: Dec 3, 2012 8:39 AM

    All 3 look like they’re going to be very good QB’s in the NFL. Their stats and style of play are different, but each makes their teams better. Andrew Luck is scary good. Yes, he makes some rookie mistakes- but that’s because he’s a rookie. Overall, he reads defenses well and does not crack under pressure. Plus, this kid’s got some wheels- Luck is dangerous when he leaves the pocket.
    RG3 is a dynamic player….if the Redskins get him some receivers that can catch the ball, the NFC East better watch out! My only concern is the beating RG3 takes….can his body take it?
    Wilson may not be the most impressive, but he gets the job done. Because he plays in Seattle, most of us don’t ever get to see him play. The guy must be pretty damn good…because Seattle is okay with having the most expensive backup QB in the NFL.
    As good as these rookies have been so far, remember that they’ve only played 12 games….its a little early to decide which on is the best (or worst) of the three.

  25. meatheadsmakemelaugh says: Dec 3, 2012 8:44 AM

    This is dumb, it’s just one guy sticking up for his guy.

    If Luck or RG3 had the Seahawks defense, they probably would be winning their divisions easily.

    I think it’s funny how people can’t see how great Luck is, they guy is on the worst team in the nfl and has single handily turned them into a playoff team. He’s are turnover machine because all they can do is throw the ball, they have nothing else…

    RG3 is good, but he wouldn’t do what Luck did with the Colts. Redskins are a better team with more talent than the Colts except for the QB position.

    Wilson will be exposed, their schedule was easy and da bears are a little overrated.

    People here are such homers for their team that they are blind to everything that they think makes there team not the best. And to say the NFC east is tough division, that’s funny as well, they have an elite team, a good team and the eagles/cowboys..

    RG3 and Wilson are fun to watch and Luck isn’t flashly.

  26. tundey says: Dec 3, 2012 8:44 AM

    I am a Redskins fan and our defense (up until the last 2 games) isn’t mediocre…it’s awful. As in “goddam awful just concede the 7 points and give the offense more time to score” awful.

  27. chris6523 says: Dec 3, 2012 8:49 AM

    C’mon man, these guys are 12 games into their careers. I’m sure at some point early in their careers someone said Drew Brees was better than Michael Vick and everyone laughed as well. Give all three credit. They’ve all for the most part played better than a typical rookie QB.

    As far as Sherman is concerned, Russell Wilson is his teammate and had just engineered two game winning TD drives in less than half an hour against what is supposedly one of the best defenses in the league at their place. I would hope Sherman would have praise for his QB.

  28. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 8:51 AM

    Say what you want about Luck, but he has engineered game tying or lead changing drives in the last minute of 5 games…..YES…..5 games, all as a rookie. Very eye opening.

    Does he try to make to many things happen at times? Absolutely. But so did some other guy named Peyton Manning. He threw 28 picks during his rookie campaign, and only won 3 games with a very stable offensive line…..something the current Colts don’t have.

    He has more mental resiliency than any of the other mentioned guys. Not even close.

    Long term prognosis……you want LUCK as your QB.

  29. gochargersgo says: Dec 3, 2012 8:51 AM

    Regardless of his inflated perception of his teammate, we have 4 rookies playing at a very high level. Add in last years class and its clear these guys are prepared to come in and start right away nowadays.

  30. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 8:52 AM

    RG3 built up those comp.% numbers with a TON of dinks and dunks. He will be around for quite a while, but I would still take Luck #1 knowing what I know now.

  31. taintedlombardis says: Dec 3, 2012 9:01 AM

    Wilson is much better than Andrew “Turnover” Luck. RG3? I don’t think so.

    Wilson is having one hell of a rookie season. What a steal for a 3rd round pick. I knew he was going to be good, but peeps were hating on his short stature.

  32. howiehandles says: Dec 3, 2012 9:02 AM

    ” NFC EAST ALWAYS LEGIT and huge media markets”

    Not this year sunshine. And what does having huge media markets have to do with these three rookie QBs? Heck, not last year either.

    All three are really good, and other than the fact they’re all rookie QBs, they are three different players. Everyone always wants to compare players to other players. Accept them for what they are, future stars.

  33. taintedlombardis says: Dec 3, 2012 9:03 AM

    Colt’s defense is better than the Redskins in PPG and YPG. Stop perpetuating BS. Luck’s defense would also be much better if he didn’t hang them out to dry so very often.

  34. someidiotfromouthereintheprojects says: Dec 3, 2012 9:04 AM

    if the draft could be redone, wilson would NOT be the third overall pick. there are plenty of crazy superlatives and exaggerations in this article and in the comments, but that one is the most glaring.

    let’s check back in on these kids in a few years. these hypothetical scenarios are childish.

  35. dutchhmaster says: Dec 3, 2012 9:05 AM

    Out of Luck, Griffin, Wilson, and Tannehill (yes he belongs in the conversation), Luck is the only lock to win a Super Bowl down the road. All four look like they could be pretty good quarterbacks (especially RGIII), but Luck looks the best regardless of the Griffin’s superior numbers.

  36. redskinsfan424 says: Dec 3, 2012 9:06 AM

    As classy as RGIII is, I would not doubt that he’d probably agree with Sherman and say that Russell and Luck have led their teams to better records than the Redskins so far, and so they are probably better than he is at this point.

  37. black6yellow says: Dec 3, 2012 9:07 AM

    Not a chance Wilson is better than luck. If you think that and you’re only defense is stats you’re a no knowledge moron. I’ll go by the eye ball test. Luck is amazing. Colts were 2-14, they draft luck now 8-4 and in playoff contention. Could Wilson bring his team back down 12 points with less less than 3 mintues left? Not a chance. Don’t be an idiot and bring up his drive against the bears, it’s one game… Luck has been playing at a very high level all season.

  38. nutpack says: Dec 3, 2012 9:08 AM

    More proof that Sherman is on drugs.

  39. S.Nevada says: Dec 3, 2012 9:13 AM

    Just an fyi- Griffins has thrown fewer short passes than Tom Brady. Should we say Brady is a ‘dink-and-dunk’ QB?

    He’s also scrambled out of the pocket one more time than Luck (I’m not talking about designed runs). Should we be talking about Lucks sustainability?

    Also, Griffin is playing with a team that was docked 18 million in cap space. Don’t tell me RG3 is working with more, because the Salay Cap numbers state otherwise.

    Finally, the thing that’s going to kill Luck’s chances down the road are his Grossman-like turnovers. Watch for that story line in the coming years.

  40. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 9:20 AM

    LOL, this is cute. “Hype machine”?? All you have to do is look at numbers. This one’s for the trolls like Peytonsneck18 who come troll Skins threads about RG3.

    At least Wilson can be in the conversation with RG3 though. The Colts fans who are touting Luck over RG3 are insane. Let’s not confuse team success with individual success, folks. Is Schaub better than Manning, Brees and Brady? Ridley better than Peterson and Martin? Lloyd better than Megatron?

    The Colts have had a creampuff schedule while the Skins have had a ton of injuries and the cap hit to deal with. RG3 has been doing it all year with a terrible defense and without his #1 WR and #1 TE most of the year.

    And if Luck wasn’t throwing 45% with 3 INTs against an awful defense, the Colts wouldn’t have had to come back against the Lions yesterday.

    Passer rating:

    RG3: 104.6 (3rd in league)
    Wilson: 95.2 (7th)
    Luck: 76.1 (29th)

    YPA:

    RG3: 8.21 (2nd)
    Wilson: 7.39 (12th)
    Luck: 7.15 (17th)

    TD/INT:

    RG3: 16/4 (one less game)
    Wilson: 19/8
    Luck: 17/16

    Rushing:

    RG3: 642 yards, 6 TDs (one less game)
    Wilson: 298 yards, 0 TDs
    Luck: 216 yards, 5 TDs

    Vs. Blitz (5+ rushers)

    RG3: 67%, 9.6 YPA, 8 TD 0 INT
    Luck: 54%, 7.4 YPA, 4 TD 4 INT

    That’s all thats needed to be said.

  41. circuscivics says: Dec 3, 2012 9:43 AM

    I love how MDS discounts Russ Wilson’s performance and gives credit to the Seattle Defense. The same Defense that has blown 3 straight leads in the 4th qtr on the road. the same defense that allowed Cutler and Marshall to hook up for a 54 yd pass with under 30 secs remaining.

    And for the dude that say the NFC east is a great, please check out the Defense of the teams in the NFC west, and i’m an Eagles fan.

    Sherman is correct in his assessment. The media hypes who they want to hype. Luck is good. He and RG3 are playing like the spots they were drafted. your supposed to look like you have promise to be a star if your #1 & #2.

    Compare the games that Russ Wilson played against the same competition as Luck. Luck looked HORRIBLE against the bears and horrible agains the Lions until when it counts. Russ Wilson looked great, until the defense that MDS gives credit to, lost the game to the dolphins and lions.

  42. tjacks7 says: Dec 3, 2012 9:46 AM

    mjbulls45 says:

    RG3 is in the heavyweight division, not just for this year, but in general, NFC EAST ALWAYS LEGIT and huge media markets

    —–

    You have to be kidding me. I believe you’re confusing “always legit” with “always overhyped thanks to the NY, Dallas, Washington, Philly, and national media. Make no mistake about it, there will be ONE playoff team coming from the NFCE.

    As for the notion that Wilson is better than Luck and RG3, that’s crazy. I would love to have Wilson on the Vikes over Ponder, but I would make a mess in my shorts if I woke up and Luck or RG3 were on the Vikes.

  43. circuscivics says: Dec 3, 2012 9:49 AM

    ” jgava19 says
    Dec 3, 2012 8:52 AM
    RG3 built up those comp.% numbers with a TON of dinks and dunks. He will be around for quite a while, but I would still take Luck #1 knowing what I know now.”

    Example of a person speaking out of their ass. just check out yds per attempt. Not an opinion, just emprical evidence. btw, i can’t even respect what MDS states in this article, because he is making a statement of opinion, without using any emprical evidence. which gives credence to Sherman’s statement about the Media Hype machine. Checkout coldhardfootballfacts if you want an unbiased assestment of where these rookies are

  44. rtant2013 says: Dec 3, 2012 9:50 AM

    I guess that adderal is getting to his head. RG3 doesn’t have more on offense then Luck or Wilson, and RG3 has made what would be an average offense into a great offense. Everyone talked crap about Garcon, Robinson is a late round rookie, Morris is a late round rookie, Moss is getting up there in age, Davis is out for the season, and they have a horrible D. But RG3 has kept them in every game. Griffin could be arguably the most accurate rookie in history, (don’t confuse that and the best rookie of all time), its a big difference. While Luck is throwing picks like crazy. If anything Luck should be compared to Newton, more so then RG3. Luck has put up some yards, while throwing bad picks just like Newton. Griffin has put up a bit less yards, but has a much better td to turnover ratio. I don’t believe Wilson is in the top teir with Luck or Griffin, more so second teir with Tannehill. If anyone says Griffin hasn’t had the best season out of the group or has shown he is a great qb, then your crazy. He’s the no doubt rookie of the year, and if he gets the Redskins into the playoffs could be a MVP candidate. And I’m a Dallas fan. What he did to the Cowboys convinced me that he is a monster, and a playmaker. Griffin has that it factor and is so exciting to watch, and that’s why he has gotten more attention then any of the other rookies

  45. richardbanksjr says: Dec 3, 2012 9:50 AM

    Oh dear. This guy said a ton of dink and dunks. You just repeat things that you think sound cool. Robert griffin leads the league in yards per completion you fool. So if he dinks and dunks, then that must mean every quarterback in the league does it.

    For the guy who said Wilson and luck have their teams headed for the playoffs. Are you smoking what Sherman smoked? Seattle was in the playoff hunt all the way until the last week of the season last year. Even with a qb carousel.

    Try this on for size. Last year Seattle ranked 22nd in ppg, 22nd in pass ypg. This year? 22nd in ppg and 30th in pass ypg. So whats the REAL difference between the 2011 7-9 Seahawks and this years team? Rushing ypg. Last year seattle was 26th in the league. This year they’re are 7th.

    And for whoever said rg3 has thrown 8 INTs, I hope you walk in on your daughter eating her boyfriends ass you moron. He’s only thrown 4 INTs.

    Not to mention rg3 has yet to have a game with multiple INTs. He also hasn’t thrown INTs in back to back weeks yet. He has a higher completion percentage than wilson, more passing yards, more yards per attempt, more rushing tds, more rushing yards, and less turnovers. All while having a questionable supporting cast. Our leading receiver is a 79 1/2 year old Santana moss for christs sake. I’m not even understanding where this Wilson argument is coming from. Robert has the better stats and in most categories it’s not even close.

    Russell Wilson can play ball. He has a certain calmness about him. But rg3 has lead and offense that was lethargic last year, to a beastly level. This should put it in perspective, Washington averages 26.8 ppg, the only Seattle opponent to score 26.8 or more against them is the 30 that the lions put up. So, hypothetically speaking, if Wilson was putting rg3’s offensive numbers then Seattle would be 11-1

  46. pftisterrible says: Dec 3, 2012 9:56 AM

    Eye ball test? Luck misses throws a lot. I realize he has to be a volume passer, but he does not have pinpoint accuracy. RGIII has the best arm out of the rookie QBs. I would still take Wilson over both of them if my team needed a late score to win. He’s a winner.

  47. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 9:56 AM

    jgava19 says:
    Dec 3, 2012 8:52 AM
    RG3 built up those comp.% numbers with a TON of dinks and dunks. He will be around for quite a while, but I would still take Luck #1 knowing what I know now.

    _______________________

    From ESPN Insider:

    RG3 throws 74.6% of his throws less than 10 yards. Brady? 81%. Ryan? 73%. Manning? 74% Rodgers? 73.4%. So lets debunk that argument, shall we?

    He’s also leading the NFL in accuracy percentage (80.5%) which takes into account drops, throwaways, spikes, batted passes, etc.) and is the highest in the NFL in 5 years.

    He also faces the same amount of defensive pressure as Luck and only scrambles on average once more per game.

    Next?

  48. rtant2013 says: Dec 3, 2012 10:04 AM

    @jgava19

    How did RG3 build up his comp % with short passes when he has more per attempt then 95% of the qbs in the league, not just over these other rookies.10 yard completions aren’t short passes. The only game he threw a ton of screens was 11 weeks ago against the Saints. So your statement clearly makes no sense when you look at the facts, stats, and games.

  49. raymondtx says: Dec 3, 2012 10:05 AM

    That is just him having his Qb’s back. No way Wilson will have a better career than Luck or RGIII. I do hope Wilson sustains his success, he seems like a good guy.

  50. tylualcindor says: Dec 3, 2012 10:17 AM

    Take a look at Andrew Luck’s rookie year and Peyton Manning’s rookie year. Almost identical except for the fact that Andrew Luck will finish with over 4k passing yards. Peyton also had Marshall Faulk his rookie year and Andrew Luck has no running game at all. RG3 is good for the system that Mike Shanahan is running for him in D.C. and Russell Wilson is doing a great job as a game manager. But the way Luck plays the position will allow his career to last just as long as Peyton’s and might I remind everyone that no running QB lasts long enough to remember how to throw the ball after 7 years. RG3 is a more accurate/smarter Mike Vick but until he learns how to slide his brain will be as soupy as Steve Young’s towards the end of his career. Russell Wilson will last as long as the shifty 5’10” QBs before him…..right…..can’t name many. Their careers will be fun to watch but to say that Russell and RG3 will have better careers than Luck is crazy. Some may have comparable years, no doubt, but it was great to make the assumption that Ryan Leaf would be better than Peyton Manning before draft day 1998 and here we stand today. Embrace greatness folks, and don’t envy it because you can throw a better spiral from your sofa to your dining room.

  51. circuscivics says: Dec 3, 2012 10:20 AM

    “black6yellow says:
    Dec 3, 2012 9:07 AM
    Not a chance Wilson is better than luck. If you think that and you’re only defense is stats you’re a no knowledge moron. I’ll go by the eye ball test. Luck is amazing. Colts were 2-14, they draft luck now 8-4 and in playoff contention. Could Wilson bring his team back down 12 points with less less than 3 mintues left? Not a chance. Don’t be an idiot and bring up his drive against the bears, it’s one game… Luck has been playing at a very high level all season.”

    Just 1 game? He (Wilson) has 3 come from behind victories already. So I guess we know who the moron is. And Luck surley didn’t play at a high level against the Bears and Jets. 2 teams Russ Wilson played very well against.

  52. circuscivics says: Dec 3, 2012 10:26 AM

    “tylualcindor says:
    Dec 3, 2012 10:17 AM
    “…Russell Wilson is doing a great job as a game manager.”

    Game managers don’t win games for their team. Thats what Wilson did yesterday and what he has done for the last 5 weeks. Arguably, only Brady and P. Manning has played better than Wilson since week 5. Don’t take my word for it. Look at the numbers. If you are a 3rd round pick and they are comparing you against the #1 & 2 picks, i’ll say that you are overperforming, while the others are playing like they were expected.

  53. deangelohallisgay says: Dec 3, 2012 10:30 AM

    LOL! He had a good game, easy on raising him into elite status quite yet. Oh yeah – there also is that excessive amount of time the Bears d-line put on him and the blown coverage in the secondary…on and the fact that they almost lost. Yes, he is truly amazing!! He may be the best quarterback in the history of mankind. BTW Seahawks, when is Pete Carol getting his sex change reversed?

  54. thelastpieceofcheese says: Dec 3, 2012 10:32 AM

    Russell Wilson is already a legend. Same size as Brees but a better passer and runner.

    When this kid gets 2 years of experience, watch out. He’ll be unstoppable.

  55. rufustfireflyjr says: Dec 3, 2012 10:35 AM

    Regardless of peoples’ opinions on the relative merits of the rookie QBs, I don’t think that anyone can argue that, as a class, this is the most impressive group since the legendary QB class of ’83 (Marino, Elway, Jim Kelly et. al)

  56. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 10:40 AM

    Love the skins fans who want to bring up the CAP HIT.

    Hey, wake up and grab a clue. This years Colts team is dealing with 40 million of DEAD CAP SPACE.

    Do you even know what that means?

  57. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 10:45 AM

    Quarterback rating? Really?

    Might want to check out something that has a “little” more weight to it.

    Its called “Total QB Rating”. Right now, according to ESPN’s website, RG3 is ranked 4th with a 72.1 rating, and Luck is 6th with a 71.6 rating.

    Very close. Two very good QB’s with a very promising future.

  58. baytownbombers says: Dec 3, 2012 10:47 AM

    I think Sherman is just struggling to pay attention.

  59. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 10:51 AM

    Seriously, no need to trash the other QB’s.

    Loved to have seen what you people were saying about Peyton Manning after his rookie campaign.

    Just proves that no matter what happens early on, it doesn’t prove squat as to what lies ahead for your career.

    all these teams should just be thankful we have some pretty good first year QB’s.

    Luck = most ever wins by a QB taken first overall.

  60. rg3andthensome says: Dec 3, 2012 10:54 AM

    Watch RG3 tonight….We’ll see who is better. Wilson is good, but he is no RG3….Nor is he a Luck

  61. laserw says: Dec 3, 2012 10:55 AM

    Russell Wilson is hands down a better quarterback than that fraud in Washington. But, I don’t think Wilson is better than Luck.

    I am a Redskin fan and I am lambasted for pointing out the obvious and significant weaknesses of Robert Griffin. But I want to share with the rest of America what is really happening with him.

    This offense has been totally reorganized to suit him. This was not done with Donovan McNabb. I want you to think about this for a moment. Had the offense been tailored to McNabb’s strengths, this team would be a contender.

    When you look at Griffin’s stats, you would be lead to believe he is a great passer and doesn’t turn the ball over….

    Well, that is a smoke and mirrors game played by the offensive coordinator. The key here is that MOST of Griffin’s passes are for short yardage and pad the stats. He rarely throws down field and also never throws into areas where there is high risk/high reward – so his interception rate is very low. He is like the stock market genius who doesn’t risk any money and doesn’t have any losses – but he doesn’t do better than the overall stock market on results. Griffin won’t throw it up and has a really low touchdown passing rate.

    Griffin bails on pass plays – his legend is spun into tremendous runs, but he has no patience to allow receivers to get open. Instead, he runs and becomes a legend for having lots of rushing yards.

    Griffin is easy to sack. This guy barely has eyes because he cannot sense a pass rush even when it is coming at him. If you are a defensive player, blitz this guy. He is bambi back there. You will get lots of sacks. If Griffin were at least awake back there, he’d have time to run – but this guy is so clueless. Instant sack.

    Griffin’s major passes this year have been on bad coverages by defenses, not on superb passing efforts. Time after time a receiver ends up wide open and Griffin gets a bomb for a touchdown. All this jerk had to do was to complete the pass. Little credit is given to the receiver for doing his job better than the quarterback (or for lambasting the defense for poor play).

    Griffin is a slug as a quarterback. Watch the quarterbacks who have developed reputations as being leaders and watch the Schmuck Griffin. This Redskin quarterback just meanders down the field, marching to his own drummer. He hasn’t a care in the world. In fact, he takes a two minute offense and turns it into a four minute one. This guy won’t get in anyone’s face for poor play, won’t be the first to the ball in a hurry up (even though he could due to his rushing speed) and makes no effort to get his guys lined up.

    Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck have the field general intangible that will win games because they give a flying rat’s butt and demonstrate the will to win. Griffin is a fad that is a fraud and his team is doing a great job masking what is a horrendously awful quarterback.

  62. autumnwind999 says: Dec 3, 2012 10:58 AM

    Wilson is not that good. Not in the class of Luck and RG3. Sorry.

    Wilson is a guy who will be decent but up and down as a starter for about five years. Then he’ll be a backup for another 10 years or so. Pretty much an improved version of Mark Sanchez.

    Luck is the best of the three. I know people will gravitate to RG3 because of the exciting running plays he makes, but for my money I’d take Peyton Manning 2.0 over RG3. It’s worth noting that everyone thought the Colts, 2-14 last year, would struggle this year because of lack of talent around Luck while the Redskins had far more talent and should compete for a playoff spot. That tells you a lot right there. The Seahawks, meanwhile, are basically in the same position they were in last year and the year before that. Granted Wilson doesn’t have a ton at WR, but he’s got a good running game and defense supporting him.

  63. rufustfireflyjr says: Dec 3, 2012 11:03 AM

    dutchhmaster says:
    Dec 3, 2012 9:05 AM
    Out of Luck, Griffin, Wilson, and Tannehill (yes he belongs in the conversation), Luck is the only lock to win a Super Bowl down the road. All four look like they could be pretty good quarterbacks (especially RGIII), but Luck looks the best regardless of the Griffin’s superior numbers.

    I truly believe that Luck (as well as Griffin) is going to be a great quarterback, but to say that ANY rookie QB is a “lock to win a Super Bowl down the road” is absurd. Everybody thought that Dan Marino would win the big one at some point when he took the Dolphins to the Super Bowl in his second season, but he never even got back to the NFL championship game.

  64. taintedlombardis says: Dec 3, 2012 11:04 AM

    laserw is a fraud. no way is that turd a skins fan…almost everything he typed he just made up. Such a long post, you must really hate RG3 huh?

  65. cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    Logicalvoice is such a hater. he is always the first to post on articles that contain Andrew Lucks name. Why is he/she so concerned about Luck if he hates him. MMMM, do we have a possible skins fan that really wanted Luck.

    And post all the numbers your want, it goes like this:

    Luck 8-4
    Wilson 7-5
    RG3 4-7

    By those numbers looks like Luck is 2 times better. Especially considering all the “experts” said that the skins had a better overall team.

    Skins have better defense and running game then the colts, so why so bad?

    Just an observation.

  66. dexterismyhero says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    Colts 8-4. I’ll take Luck all day!!!

    No one and I mean NO ONE had them winning more than 3-5 games at the most.

    Griffin & Wilson are really good QB’s and lets hope all 3 stay healthy.

  67. jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    4 THUMBS down on 40 million dead cap space comment?

    Just proves how little so many of you know.

    And a career is defined by one season.

    Lets look back after 5 years and see who really is having the better career.

    Skins fans just don’t know how to act because they got the worst owner in all of sports and haven’t won squat in so many years. Don’t know how to handle winning.

  68. cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:11 AM

    And for those saying wait and watch Rg3 tonight, enjoy it for the next couple of weeks. Because he wont be playing in January!!! I see two other rookie QB’s who probably will be.

  69. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:11 AM

    jgava19 says:
    Dec 3, 2012 10:45 AM
    Quarterback rating? Really?

    Might want to check out something that has a “little” more weight to it.

    Its called “Total QB Rating”. Right now, according to ESPN’s website, RG3 is ranked 4th with a 72.1 rating, and Luck is 6th with a 71.6 rating.

    _________________________

    LOL that thing is a joke. Crappy invention by ESPN to sell “insider” stuff and page/mag hits. Nobody takes it seriously.

    Look at hard numbers.

    RG3 is 3rd in rating, 4th in %, 2nd in YPA, tied for 1st in fewest INTs, and 1st in rushing QBs.

    Luck is 32nd!!!! in completion % at 55%. The only QBs below him are Sanchez and Skelton lol. 17th in YPA and 29th in rating.

    It’s not even close. I couldn’t give a damn that the Colts are 8-4 playing against terrible teams. Theyll be in for a rude awakening when they go to Denver wild card weekend, much like what happened when they finally played a good team in New England.

  70. justcuz15 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:13 AM

    All this wilson is better than luck but not RG3 stuff is BS luck and wilson win games, RG3 puts up big numbers. The colts and the seahawks are in position for the playoffs and the skins still have a losing record. If i could take one qb to win me one game id take Wilson, but thats mostly homerism, and because i have yet to actualy watch a colts game this year. RG3 is probably going to win ROY because of his tremendous stats, but i dont think he deserves it.

  71. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:14 AM

    laserw says:
    Dec 3, 2012 10:55 AM
    Russell Wilson is hands down a better quarterback than that fraud in Washington. But, I don’t think Wilson is better than Luck.

    I am a Redskin fan and I am lambasted for pointing out the obvious and significant weaknesses of Robert Griffin. But I want to share with the rest of America what is really happening with him.

    __________________________

    You’re not a Redskins fan and you clearly have no idea about anything related to football. Do yourself a favor and don’t ever post anything again, ever.

  72. seahawkfan4evr says: Dec 3, 2012 11:16 AM

    Just to educate the masses russel Wilson has been amazing. From reading most of the articles he gets very undersold. For instance he did the same thing luck did against the lions only thing is that the lions got to have the ball back with a minute left and they moved the ball to win the game. He beat tom Brady straight up by the way how did luck do against the pats and also threw two fourth quarter touchdowns in the last few minutes to win the game. He should have beaten the niners if his receivers could catch. He helped smack the cowboys.
    Luck an rg3 are great russels better I have seen the games I know it first hand.

  73. themackstrong says: Dec 3, 2012 11:16 AM

    I know I have a bit of a bias because I have watched all Seahawk games and probably only 3 or 4 of Colts/Redskins each but Sherman isn’t far off when he says he’s the top rookie QB. Look at all the teams schedules so far, Seahawks finished their hardest part and are 7-5 with Wilson leading the way and even games they lost they are within 3 or 4 points with a chance. The NFC East is not a powerhouse division and hasn’t been for a few years, I think the West has nearly swept them this year and it was beat downs. Wilson is the perfect QB for the Seahawks smash mouth style of play. I think all 3 will be great but Sherman is 100 % right when he says most media covers Luck/Griffin and even Tannehil first because they are like TMZ these days. But real football heads who watch games see what the real deal is.

  74. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:22 AM

    justcuz15 says:
    Dec 3, 2012 11:13 AM
    All this wilson is better than luck but not RG3 stuff is BS luck and wilson win games, RG3 puts up big numbers. The colts and the seahawks are in position for the playoffs and the skins still have a losing record. If i could take one qb to win me one game id take Wilson, but thats mostly homerism, and because i have yet to actualy watch a colts game this year. RG3 is probably going to win ROY because of his tremendous stats, but i dont think he deserves it.

    _____________________________

    It’s amazing how ignorant some people are. Not bashing Wilson but if the Skins win tonight they’re at .500 and 1 game behind Seattle for the 6th seed. If the Bears don’t choke yesterday, Skins would be playing for the 6th seed tonight since they have tiebreakers over Minny, TB, NO, and Seattle. And lets not forget the Seahawks were given a game they didn’t deserve.

    If RG3 had Seattle’s defense or played Indy’s schedule I can promise you he’d be higher than .500.

  75. taintedlombardis says: Dec 3, 2012 11:24 AM

    cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    Logicalvoice is such a hater. he is always the first to post on articles that contain Andrew Lucks name. Why is he/she so concerned about Luck if he hates him. MMMM, do we have a possible skins fan that really wanted Luck.

    And post all the numbers your want, it goes like this:

    Luck 8-4
    Wilson 7-5
    RG3 4-7

    By those numbers looks like Luck is 2 times better. Especially considering all the “experts” said that the skins had a better overall team.

    Skins have better defense and running game then the colts, so why so bad?

    Just an observation.

    Something must be in the water in the Midwest, because these idiots from flyover country can’t get their facts straight. Kind of hard to have a valid opinion when you are oblivious to reality. RG3 will be 6-6 after tonight.

  76. seattle2toronto12thmanconnection says: Dec 3, 2012 11:29 AM

    jgava19 says:Dec 3, 2012 8:51 AM

    Say what you want about Luck, but he has engineered game tying or lead changing drives in the last minute of 5 games…..YES…..5 games, all as a rookie. Very eye opening.

    So has Wilson…

  77. stoptrippn says: Dec 3, 2012 11:35 AM

    Sherman you must be high

  78. mrplow3 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:36 AM

    “It’s interesting that when Sherman mentions that Wilson beat the Packers, he doesn’t mention that Wilson was 9-of-20 for 106 yards until the replacement refs gifted him with a touchdown pass on what should have been an interception ”

    That’s interesting? So you expect a teammate to point out flaws to the media? Really?

    No, what would be interesting is if he HAD mentioned it.

  79. cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:42 AM

    All of you skins fans that keep saying colts have an easy schedule, who have the Skins played. You all claim that NFC East is the Goliath of the league. Please…I realize that the AFC South isn’t much either, but i dont see colts fans telling skins fans they have an easy schedule.

    Skins have played Rams, Saints (before they started getting good), Tampa bay (when they were playing crappy), panthers, cowboys (twice), and the all great eagles (twice).

    I wouldnt say that skins have the toughest schedule by far.

    Just another excuse for a QB who prefers he looks good, rather then the team winning.

  80. ocho says: Dec 3, 2012 11:42 AM

    @laserw that was possibly the most mind-boggling comment I’ve ever read on this site. you are clearly not a Redskins fan, but those comments make me wonder if you follow football at all…are you really trying to convince us that RG3’s isnt a good qb b/c he doesnt force passes into tight coverage thus avoiding ints? So by your estimation, Rex Grossman should be leading this team? Honestly, my head hurts just thinking about your logic here…please tell us all that was a joke.

  81. tindeaux says: Dec 3, 2012 11:50 AM

    I wouldn’t go that far and say that wilson is slightly better rgIII or luck. Only time will tell, but as of right now, all three play very well and i am glad to see a generation of qbs that are gifted and athletic.

  82. cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:59 AM

    taintedlombardis says:
    Dec 3, 2012 11:24 AM
    cvieira18 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    Logicalvoice is such a hater. he is always the first to post on articles that contain Andrew Lucks name. Why is he/she so concerned about Luck if he hates him. MMMM, do we have a possible skins fan that really wanted Luck.

    And post all the numbers your want, it goes like this:

    Luck 8-4
    Wilson 7-5
    RG3 4-7

    By those numbers looks like Luck is 2 times better. Especially considering all the “experts” said that the skins had a better overall team.

    Skins have better defense and running game then the colts, so why so bad?

    Just an observation.

    Something must be in the water in the Midwest, because these idiots from flyover country can’t get their facts straight. Kind of hard to have a valid opinion when you are oblivious to reality. RG3 will be 6-6 after tonight.

    ———————————–

    It is in the water. My bad, 5-7 after tonight. Either way out of playoffs (if they were even in it) after tonight.

    Enjoy the last 5 games of the skins season. See you next year.

  83. osoviejo says: Dec 3, 2012 12:00 PM

    The refs also gifted the Packers their only touchdown, so let’s dial back the righteous indignation.

    Further, an NFL season–every NFL season–is filled with questionable calls that hurt or help quarterbacks. It’s disingenuous to single out one call with the sole intent to diminish a player’s achievements. If you’re going to do it, make a scorecard and pick apart every questionable call for every quarterback.

    Or, you could just assume that it all pretty much levels out over the long haul and elevate your analysis above a lazy, simplistic narrative.

    I’ll not hold my breath.

  84. cbgbs21 says: Dec 3, 2012 12:04 PM

    1. Luck
    2. Wilson
    3. Griffin

    RG3 will be fun to watch, but in the end Luck and Wilson will ultimately have a better shot at winning a Super Bowl down the road, IMO. “Athletic” quarterbacks, with offenses structured similar to college ball, don’t change the face of the franchise. Once teams get all the tape and break it down D coordinators (the good ones at least) can dial up packages to keep them in check. For example, the Rams figured out Kaepernick after one game and beat him the next, and you can’t forget Newton last year versus this year, Mike Vick, etc. Sure, they’re flashy and fun to watch, and undoubtedly good with big playmaking ability, but in the end they get figured out.

    All three are great players (from what I’ve seen through 12 weeks) and hopefully will be for years to come, just makes the game that much more interesting.

  85. js1321 says: Dec 3, 2012 12:37 PM

    Bottom Line, If Russell Wilson Had Blonde Hair & Blue Eyes Or Braids & Tattoos, He’d Be The Overwhelming Favorite Right Now By A Landslide.

  86. rufustfireflyjr says: Dec 3, 2012 12:44 PM

    Wilson will have a better career than Griffin because Griffin is an “athletic” QB running a college offense? Were my eyes deceiving me, or was that Wilson running the read-option against the Bears yesterday? I like Wilson a lot as a QB, but anyone who thinks that RGIII hasn’t changed the face of the Redskins franchise just hasn’t been paying attention. Without him, this team is probably 1-10 or 2-9 at this point, and probably a 3-4 win team for the season. With him, the team will probably finish within a game either way of .500, and is playing meaningful games in December, which has been a rare occurrence in recent years.

  87. skinsfan91 says: Dec 3, 2012 1:47 PM

    This thread has sure brought the not-so-schooled NFL fans. All saying their guy is the best. Luck is the best because he has the most wins. For right now. Don’t surprised if the Skins make a run.

  88. jm8ch10 says: Dec 3, 2012 1:56 PM

    You put either RGIII or midget Wilson on the Colts and the Colts are 4-8 not 8-4. Luck has no running game, no offensive line, one reliever to throw to and an atrocious defense. Little Wilson has an elite defense and elite RB. RGIII has a good running game, decent defense and more offensive weapons at his disposal. If you can’t see that I feel sorry for you and your lack of intellect.

  89. skins23 says: Dec 3, 2012 2:05 PM

    cvieira18 says:Dec 3, 2012 11:42 AM

    All of you skins fans that keep saying colts have an easy schedule, who have the Skins played.
    _____________________

    Skins opponents winning %: .518

    Colts opponents winning %: .430

    Byebye.

  90. jamesbarnes says: Dec 3, 2012 2:23 PM

    Reading all of these comments was like running through a riot at a math camp.

    I’m a Redskins fan, life long (unfortunately so for many years). I watch Redskins games, I don’t watch the Colts and I don’t watch the Seahawks. I don’t have an opinion about Luck because he isn’t my quarterback.

    The Redskins coaches have stated publicly that they intended to draft Russell instead of Cousins to be the backup to RG3 if he happened to fall to them. They certainly saw something in him and I think the Seahawks got a steal based on his draft position vs. performance (thus far).

    I think he deserves to be in the conversation of rookies, but lets all take a few years before we decide who to send to Canton, ok?

  91. jm8ch10 says: Dec 3, 2012 2:47 PM

    The NFC east is a joke^^^

  92. redskinsfreak91 says: Dec 3, 2012 2:47 PM

    All this talk about Wilson, RG3, and Luck is pointless. Forget the espn stats and nfl.com stats and profootballfocus it RG3 is the 5th best qb right now. Now Luck is absolutely phenomenal by no means is he a slouch I don’t think you could have gone wrong with Luck or RG3. Wilson does not fit into the category with those two. Wilson has a top 10 d and top 5 rushing attack. RG3 took the Redskins o from 27th to 7th and top 7 in total points per game. RG3’s receiving corp has been destroyed by injury. The Redskins defense is destroyed by injury and still RG3 has been able to get them in the playoff talk. Luck has brought his team back 3x this year and has the colts at 8-4 with a defense that’s as bad as the Redskins. The Colts cut basically all his help except Wayne and his oline is destroyed and he has no run game. If you did a redraft and you have the top pick I’m going with Luck or RG3 not Wilson I would feel more comfortable going with Wilson in the 3rd or 2nd round where he got picked. Wilson is good but I still would rate him #4 for the rookie qb’s behind Tannehill who has no type of WR help or te or strong run game to rely on.

  93. jwreck says: Dec 3, 2012 3:08 PM

    jm8ch10 says: Dec 3, 2012 1:56 PM

    You put either RGIII or midget Wilson on the Colts and the Colts are 4-8 not 8-4. Luck has no running game, no offensive line, one reliever to throw to and an atrocious defense. Little Wilson has an elite defense and elite RB. RGIII has a good running game, decent defense and more offensive weapons at his disposal. If you can’t see that I feel sorry for you and your lack of intellect.
    _______
    No knock on Luck, who is great, but Washington’s defense lost its entire weak side pass rush in week 2, and its secondary couldn’t cover a TPS report. As for receivers, I don’t think many people saw Reggie Wayne’s monster season coming, but to call a future hall of famer playing one of his best seasons ever “one reliever to throw to,” is a little bit ridiculous. On top of that, Griffin’s top two receiving threats (Garcon and Davis) have been injured for the vast majority of the season. The rest of his “offensive weapons” set the all-time NFL record for drops in a game in week 8.

    Again, not a knock on Luck, but to say he has done more with less is a very hard case to make, especially factoring in the talent difference between the NFC and the AFC. Either way, I think we can all agree that Wilson, while certainly a talented and legitimate franchise quarterback, has done less with more than either Luck or Griffin.

  94. indywilson40 says: Dec 3, 2012 3:59 PM

    Luck has the 4th best QBR in the league, a much better guage of what a quarterback does for his team. Luck is 8-4 with a roster full of rookies and rejects. Put Rusell Wilson on the Colts and we’re 4-8. You have a choice between Luck or Wilson: who do you take? 32 out of 32 NFL gm’s take Luck. Case closed

  95. savannahrose44 says: Dec 3, 2012 4:05 PM

    Luck — who has had to play from behind because of the Colts’ terrible defense — has 1,252 more passing yards than Wilson.

    Luck also has 17 TD’s, 16 interceptions and a career passer rating of 76.1.

    Luck is overrated and shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as Wilson or Griffin.

  96. deltaoracle says: Dec 3, 2012 4:14 PM

    Wilson will never make it as a starter in the NFL. He’s too short. Book it. (Making Mel Kiper Jr. face but winking.)

  97. Ridley Me This says: Dec 3, 2012 4:20 PM

    Its funny logicalvoicesays would make a comment about lying when he LIED about not trolling anymore after the his redskins didn’t go undefeated until the steeler game.

    A man who can’t keep his word is no man at all. I think the redskins should excommunicate you.

  98. terpfan76 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:24 PM

    Look, Griffin and Luck both have the look of elite qbs. The kind that you’d trade a whole draft for. Wilson, well he looks to be a nice qb, but I don’t know that he’ll be that top shelf qb. He might, people had doubts about Brees too. That said, no one will convince a Colts fan that Luck isn’t the best, nor a Skins fan RGIII or Hawks fan Wilson. We’re all lucky (pun intended) to have who we got and those downplaying RGIII’s ability to play the position at an NFL level are fooling noone. It’s true that the Shanny’s have tailored the offense to fit his unique abilities, but he’s a passer first, runner second. The idiot that said he gives up on passes too soon is clearly neither a Skins fan or a viewer of the games. Otherwise, he’d be well aware of his passer skills.

    I’m glad to have Griffin, but had the Colts taken him and we got stuck with Luck, I’m pretty sure I’d have been stoked either way.

  99. timocracy13 says: Dec 3, 2012 7:44 PM

    jgava19 says: Dec 3, 2012 11:07 AM

    4 THUMBS down on 40 million dead cap space comment?

    Just proves how little so many of you know.

    And a career is defined by one season.

    Lets look back after 5 years and see who really is having the better career.

    Skins fans just don’t know how to act because they got the worst owner in all of sports and haven’t won squat in so many years. Don’t know how to handle winning.
    ===================================

    I voted your post down because the cap hit the Redskins took resulted from sanctions over taking advantage of an uncapped year. The Colts’s dead cap space resulted from their front office’s incompetence.

  100. olyhawk says: Dec 3, 2012 8:21 PM

    One thing is for sure, Each of these guys has championship intangables, no doubt about it. Russell might be the best leader of all three.

  101. txnative61 says: Dec 4, 2012 1:21 AM

    Many of these arguments utilize the relative merits of the teams surrounding each QB. By using the top two picks on Luck and RG3, the teams were unable to pick other impact players in support, which Seattle was able to do by selecting Wilson in the third round. So draft value of the three goes to Seattle, without question so far. As irritating as Pete Carroll can be to watch sometimes, giving Wilson the chance to compete and succeed shows outstanding management and coaching. It will be interesting to see which goes the furthest in the playoffs.

  102. skinsfaninnebraska says: Dec 4, 2012 2:26 AM

    Why are y’all throwing around all these QB stats trying to win an argument here?

    This is Sherman talking up his teammate, heck, his team’s leader! That’s exactly what he should be doing.

    Would anyone really expect a Seahawk player to say, “Well, yeah Russell is having a good year, but I think RGIII is a better QB?”

  103. supesfan34 says: Dec 4, 2012 6:52 PM

    Interesting tidbit that no one seems to have commented on here. Sherman was Luck’s teammate in college. He even played WR at Stanford.

    However, I agree that it’s just a case of a guy giving props to his current teammate. All three are fantastic QB’s as rookies.

    I’m a Seahawks fan and fully on the Wilson bandwagon, but even I would take Luck over Wilson if given the opportunity.

  104. orivar says: Dec 5, 2012 12:42 PM

    NFC East is not a heavyweight division right now, NFC East is pretty much dead. Eagles have crashed and burned. Don’t have a QB, haven’t been able to fill the void from Jim Johnson (R.I.P), and Andy Reid after all the heartbreak (his sons drug battle he eventually lost) most likely is trying his best to get out of town. The OC also sucks and always will.

    With the Eagles down the Giants pretty much own the division, however as always they’re inconsistent though tend to get hot around the right time. Their inconsistency doesn’t do the division any good.

    Cowboys have talent but too many egos from the top down to every do anything. They’ve only been relevant to the media and the media only. Besides the one year they beat Philly three times due to terrible play calling and lack of adjustments on Phillys behalf, they’re kind of irrelevant.

    Redskins. Not even worth talking about.

  105. Frazier28/7 says: Dec 5, 2012 3:47 PM

    Packer fans will also tell you Kevin Bacon was not in Footloose. Seattle won when they shouldn’t have, get over it!

  106. vailskier99 says: Dec 6, 2012 1:58 PM

    Listen, at the end of the day, the Ws are what teams care about. Stats are good, but not as important as the Ws because at the end of the season, everyone is striving to win the Lombardi trophy. All three rookies are good, we’ll see who will lead their team to the playoff at the end of the season and who will win more playoff games. The one that wins more playoff games should be the ROY

  107. lajmahal says: Dec 7, 2012 12:57 PM

    Seahawks have the best team when comparing them to the Redskins and Colts.

    Redskins are better than the Colts IMO because they have a good O-Line, a solid RB, and a few players (London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan) on Defense.

    The Colts have NO ONE besides Luck and Reggie Wayne. Yet they have the best record of the 3 teams.

    Sure Luck throws picks, how can’t he? Every Defense knows he’s going to throw it because the colts have NO run game.

    Wilson has one of the best RBs and O-Lines in the NFL. He is awesome and I wish the Eagles drafted him, but come on man! Luck is on a terrible team, yet they are 8-4. Crazy!

    … RG3 could have the last laugh though if the Skins surpass the Giants and win the East.

  108. lajmahal says: Dec 7, 2012 1:01 PM

    @orivar

    The NFC East has definitely fallen off, but to say the Redskins aren’t even worth talking about is foolish!

    RG3 is going to be great for years. Philly still has the pieces to be a good team, remember 4 out of their 5 OLs are out for the year, one of which is an all-pro.

    With the emergence of Bryce Brown, if Philly gets a coach who runs the ball (Cowher or Chip Kelly) they could be relevant. Who knows maybe they will switch to a 3-4 and draft Teo too.

    As long as Romo is the QB in Dallas, they are screwed.

  109. jjbadd385 says: Dec 8, 2012 4:02 PM

    I dont have a problem admitting that RGIII is much better than I thought he would be. I think Luck is doing very well too. But for a QB that wasnt mentioned much, I will say I am more than just a little impressed with Wilson and his performance so far. But as a Bronco fan, I would love to know how Osweiller is going to be!

  110. brettfavresmidget says: Dec 10, 2012 3:32 PM

    Oh yeah…but did anyone see Nick Foles yesterday?!?!?!?!?!

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