Comments on: Report: Jon Gruden talking to the Raiders about a return

By: jm91rs

jm91rs — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 21:09:40 +0000

tujefablows says: Dec 4, 2012 8:25 PM

Can’t wait for all the Raider hater trolls to comment on this one.

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Ha, raiders fans shouldn’t worry about trolls. The biggest Troll in all of PFT is that Raider fan clown in Toronto that loves to post first on every story imaginable.

By: radrntn

radrntn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 21:02:53 +0000

fdugrad says:
Dec 4, 2012 8:35 PM
he took ANOTHER coach’s hard work and former team to a SB victory
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i always get a kick out of these comments….in this logic then dungy’s team played gruden’s team, and lucky for dungy’s team that they had gruden’s offense playbook…..pure stupidty.

By: radrntn

radrntn — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 20:56:06 +0000

Gruden has wanted back for a long time…he loved being a raider, and enjoyed living in Pleasanton with the family. Nobody can fault the raiders at the time for getting two #1′s, and two # 2, plus 8 million cash for gruden. I mean the raiders got over so much the nfl made the “gruden”rule that teams can not receive compensation for coaches.

Bottom line, the lat time the raiders had a winning season is when Gruden was there..enough said.

By: materialman80

materialman80 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:51:25 +0000

Gruden better stick with Tennessee….

By: open1337

open1337 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:18:11 +0000

This is the only coach I would want in here if DA was somehow released early. Not going to happen though.

By: rail77

rail77 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 18:03:30 +0000

Although, Jon Gruden is doing a very nice job at ESPN, everyone knows that he is best suited to be a head coach in the NFL. Although, he has stated his commitment to ESPN, the right situation, and the right amount of money would definately see him back, coaching, on the sidelines. He, is no doubt, one of the biggest names to be tossed around, as far as a potential head coaches are concerned. He definately has a soft-spot for the Raiders, and bleeds “Black & Silver”. But, don’t think for one minute that, if he did decide to return to coaching, he wouldn’t consider coaching the Dallas Cowboys, in that billion dollar stadium, if Jerry Jones guaranteed him the kind of control, over player personnel, drafting, etc., that he couldn’t get Al Davis to relinquish. Would Jerry Jones be willing to give Gruden that type of power? In most cases, I would say no. However, Jerry Jones does remember that Gruden is the only coach in history to lead two different teams to the Superbowl in a two-year period. He also the only coach in history to lead his team, the Raiders, to the Superbowl, and not come back as its head coach, the next year. Gruden is so far superior to most of the coaches leading teams today, that’s it’s quite appalling to see him remain out of coaching. We want to see “Chucky” back on the sidelines, no matter what team he coaches. He was the most colorful coach in football. Either you loved him or hated him. There was no in-between.

By: kenstabler

kenstabler — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:35:24 +0000

I brought this up in other post of mine, that Gruden would be a possibility if this season imploded, which it has. This won’t be a Reggie decision, this will be a Mark Davis decision and we need to sell tickets next year season because we suck. It really looks like with the current talent on this roster, and the FA losses we will take next year, we could be worse. The hole that the the draft giveaways of the last several years made, have hurt this team to the core. No depth. The Raiders really needed a veteran coach, Allen was a (rookie) mistake, because the talent on the roster was overestimated. Chuckie will sell tickets, even if we suck next year. He is the tpye of coach that can at least get us back to 8-8, and then {improve) the next year to get into the playoffs. Without Gruden, it will be a blackout low attendance 2-14 season, and we will be talking about this again.

By: bmadccp

bmadccp — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 17:02:12 +0000

ancylostoma

“Give Allen time.. the roster is horrible.. its not his fault, he is not a magician..”

Yet with practically the same roster last year (but under a better coach) we were a 0.500 club and one choke away from the playoffs. I don’t think there can be any doubt that this abortion of a season lays squarely at the feet of Reggie and “his guy” Allen.

By: bmadccp

bmadccp — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:56:52 +0000

This very rumor seems to come up every year and each time it does, I get a little excited to think that maybe we could have a good team again if Gruden was back, then I’m let down a few days later when the rumor is quashed. Don’t hold your breath Raider Nation.

I suspect we’re in for at least one more year of the current coaching staff before we have to start all over again. At this rate, we won’t have another championship caliber team for 10-12 years. But maybe I’m just jaded from the last 12 years.

By: raidermike34

raidermike34 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:42:43 +0000

First and foremost, I agree with many on the timing with the passing of DA’s Father, not good If Mark Davis really is .. but I do believe that Mark & McKenzie do know that more cancer needs to be trimmed from the locker room, and until that is done than DA can work with his own schemes and philosophy, That being said he may not be able to hire his own Cocahing personnel, as they also need to be trimmed.

Think about it with the release of many Uninspired Players, the Raiders can save over $60 Million, every aspect of the team needs to be decimated including the WR corp who dropped 6 perfectly thrown passes last week.

Gruden would be thrown into the same situation as DA, and if a good coach like a Coughlin, would take at least 2 years to turn around the team. We need a coach who can do just that .. get every steam out of a every player, can DA do this next year? Can Gruden? …

By: granadafan

granadafan — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:28:04 +0000

Hey Gruden, if it doesn’t work out with the son of Al, then head up I-80 and stop in Berkeley. We need a new coach.

By: electionconfidential

electionconfidential — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:03:27 +0000

Whether it’s merited or not Gruden could do better than Oakland. I’m not down on the Raiders, but the team is a train wreck. If he got an offer from the Cowboys or Philly I imagine he would take it…

By: frankfordyellowjackets

frankfordyellowjackets — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:31:52 +0000

Please go to the Eagles. Please.

By: ccjcsr

ccjcsr — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:48:55 +0000

I call BS on this report or should I say Speculation. Raider don’t have a Qb.

By: raiderufan

raiderufan — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:19:24 +0000

You guys are talking about an 8-8 team that was a game away from the playoffs after losing it’s starting QB and “star” RB mid season. It’s not like they went fire sale and now Allen is picking up the pieces….

I’ve been a strict supporter of staying the course and building consistency but something isn’t right with Allen leading this team.

Chucky is a nice nostalgia idea…I get it…I long for those days terribly. I just don’t see it happening. Why talk to him now? Can’t show some respect and wait for the season to end?

I’ll be honest though…dropping Palmer, McFadden, Seymore and Kelly’s salary while running a RG3 influenced pistol with Pryor, Reece and our WR’s could be fun and needs a strong hand like a Gruden to come in and implement it and get people to believe. Pryor as Gruden’s project that eveyone wants him to have…it’s all here for him. Even his wildcat that he loves could work….

By: cuda1234

cuda1234 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:10:54 +0000

If Gruden does get back into coaching I really hope he ends up with Tim Tebow. That way the media would only have to make one stop to drool over the two most-hyped, least-accomplished guys in the game today.

By: tincansailor981

tincansailor981 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:50:46 +0000

Whichever team hires Gruden better be sure to hire Tony Dungy first to build the winning team for Gruden to take over.

By: 808raiderinparadise

808raiderinparadise — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:38:08 +0000

Dennis Allen is a slow reactor… he ignored scheme failures, personnel, and injury issues till about now. He basically watched from the sidelines all season. so did Reggie and so did Mark Davis and Amy Trask.

Gruden is a gamebreaker, raiders won’t sell 1/2 the tickets to their 1st home game next year with Allen still coaching, gruden would create a waiting list.

By: souldogdave

souldogdave — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:28:24 +0000

You can’t go home again.

By: araidersfan

araidersfan — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:19:38 +0000

If this is actually true then I don’t like it at all. I know that Gruden and McKenzie were both in Green Bay in the early to mid ’90s but to me this sounds like a Mark Davis inspired idea to light a fire under the fanbase (or the significant portion that could be bamboozled by this P.T. Barnum type stunt). As such it directly undermines McKenzie’s job as GM and returns the Raiders to the circus/laughingstock type atmosphere that prevailed in Al Davis’ last few decades.

Aside from the hucksterism that would be involved in bringing Jon-boy back to Oakland there’s also the question as to how it would translate on-the-field? There’s no guarantee that it would actually be good for the Silver & Black. There’s no question that Gruden was an excellent HC in his first stint in Oakland after taking over from Bugel…but then Art Shell was also pretty good his first time too after taking over from Shanahan. The fact is that after “Chuckie” won the Super Bowl with Tony Dungy’s team, he went about running the Bucs into the ground and was fired in Tampa after seven years spent compiling a mediocre record. So I’m dubious about the prospects of Gruden repeating his magic a second time in Oakland.

I had originally thought that with the new regime, bona-fide good HCs may now actually think of the Raiders as a viable destination (rather than a sewer)…but that will depend upon whether Dennis Allen is viewed as having received a legitimate chance to succeed or fail. Prematurely pulling the rug out from under Allen would signify that the M.O. regarding HCs hasn’t changed from father to son.

Lastly if the report about the Raiders talking to Gruden this week are true then this is about as classless as Mark Davis could get considering that Dennis Allen is just now returning from saying his last goodbyes and burying his father.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:09:15 +0000

This makes no sense at all, Gruden wants veterans and the Raiders are rebuilding.

Most of the veterans the Raiders have will be let go at the end of this season.

By: zeeman911

zeeman911 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 08:07:29 +0000

Same site that has unnamed GM bashing the lions. I don’t doubt they make everything up to drive traffic to the site….

By: jeffa43

jeffa43 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 08:04:51 +0000

Gruden to Osk

Cohwer to SD…. That would spark up the rivalry!

By: raideralex99

raideralex99 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:45:28 +0000

If Al Davis would have let Gruden have more control of his players cut Al’s scholars … he would still be the Raiders coach with a couple of SBs titles.
If a coach can’t cut a player what’s the sense of coaching that team.

By: kappy32

kappy32 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:07:16 +0000

Don’t see it. The Raiders may be bad this year, but Dennis Allen is the hand-picked guy from the Raiders’ new regime; they’re in this for the long haul, changing the attitude & production of the team, and Allen will be there at least 2 more years.

By: louisianamatt

louisianamatt — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 07:00:14 +0000

If you’ve ever heard him gush on-and-on about Cam, I mean “Slam” Newton as Gruden says, you’d know he’d love for the chance to coach that type of athlete that’s only 23 yrs old. No GM presently in Carolina, I think it’s the only real NFL possibility he would truly consider. Over the likes of Philly, Dallas, SD, KC, OAK, and possibly NYJ & Tenn. He’d walk in Day One in complete control (I think he’d be pulling all the strings there) with a roster with talent and pieces to build around, Cam, Kalil, Greg Olsen, Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy, & Luke Keuchly, a Top 8 draft pick, and the ability to shed some salary this offseason. I think it’s his most intriguing option out there, but that’s just my humble opinion.

By: l1onhe4rt

l1onhe4rt — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:41:42 +0000

Allen as D coach, Gruden as HC, Saunders as OC…… Lets get some real players!!!!!

By: alefty

alefty — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 06:23:31 +0000

Yo Jcity – eat a Philly pretzel. Dumb -ss!

By: 1standinches

1standinches — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:47:01 +0000

Andy Reid will be new coach of the browns and John Gruden coaches Eagles.

By: blacksunday1

blacksunday1 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 05:35:35 +0000

Rumors.. Just rumors and a lot of wishful thinking..