Comments on: Harvin vows to come back “stronger and better than ever” http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Thu, 23 May 2013 20:05:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: whatjusthapped http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2166261 Sat, 08 Dec 2012 13:13:52 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2166261 The longer the Vikings (and their fans) keep Ponder, the better it is for the rest of the NFC North. I have to believe that Harvin has to factor that into the equation when he considers re-signing with the Vikings or upgrading to a team that has a realistic shot at getting into the playoffs.

]]> By: zn0rseman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2164915 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 17:40:06 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2164915 The fact is Ponder can’t throw. Musgrave doesn’t have a whole lot of options when his QB can’t throw the ball. His receivers are very average but he isn’t hitting the windows he is supposed to. He throws late, high, and without velocity. I don’t care if he’s a smart guy, his football IQ is low. No pocket awareness at all. He has regressed, period. Throwing a five yard pass and having Harvin turn it into a big play helped to mask his inefficiency. He was never first round worthy and the Vikes will be dragged down by him through Peterson’s prime.

Oh, and I’m a Packer fan. I miss the rivalry games being unpredictable.
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Dude, I’m calling you out on this. Ponder is not TJoke. Ponder had an above average NFL arm. Ponder is mobile. Ponder throws accurately. And most importanty, he is a good decision maker. Right now he is simply plagued by the fact that he’s effectively a red shirt rookie with absolutely nobody to throw the football to, other than his TEs. I don’t care how good a QB is, if they don’t have recievers who get open, they will not be successful.

]]> By: joeyashwi http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2164032 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:23:16 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2164032 The fact is Ponder can’t throw. Musgrave doesn’t have a whole lot of options when his QB can’t throw the ball. His receivers are very average but he isn’t hitting the windows he is supposed to. He throws late, high, and without velocity. I don’t care if he’s a smart guy, his football IQ is low. No pocket awareness at all. He has regressed, period. Throwing a five yard pass and having Harvin turn it into a big play helped to mask his inefficiency. He was never first round worthy and the Vikes will be dragged down by him through Peterson’s prime. It’s sad.
Oh, and I’m a Packer fan. I miss the rivalry games being unpredictable.

]]> By: 7ransponder http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2164025 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:16:11 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2164025 filthymcnasty1 says:
Dec 6, 2012 8:00 PM
I imagine the Ponder apologists will use this to excuse his wretched play.

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They were before this development. See: Sid Hartman.

]]> By: filthymcnasty1 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163564 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 01:00:32 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163564 I imagine the Ponder apologists will use this to excuse his wretched play.

]]> By: zn0rseman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163552 Fri, 07 Dec 2012 00:51:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163552 Not to mention the fact that Ponder is tryin to QB a team with no WR’s in an absolutely brutal division. The NFC North is tough.

]]> By: claymatthewsisonsteroids http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163419 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:41:35 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163419 tjacks7 says:
Dec 6, 2012 4:16 PM

Speilman has only had full control of the roster for one draft. He added Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith, Josh Robinson, Rhett Ellison, Jarious Wright, and Blair Walsh who all look like real players. His draft was great.

He bought himself some more time, IMO.

That’s a fair point to make, but Speilman is also responsible for signing Jon Carlson and Cheech Simpson, which were horrible signings. Ponder is also Speilman’s guy, which is almost reason enough to fire him…

]]> By: zn0rseman http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163349 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 23:06:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163349 The thing I don’t get is how hard people are being on Ponder right now. Currently he has nobody at WR who should be starting for an NFL team, other than may a rookie 4th round pick in Jarius Wright. Harvin has been hurt all year and Ponder is essentially red-shirt rookie this year who has half the receiving talent of other rookie and second year guys around the league.

Did people forget that just last season the Vikings had their worst year in franchise history? Without Harvin, Ponder and the Vikings offense lose a powerful weapon and are relegated to once again overusing Adrian Petersonand trying to force the ball in to receivers who aren’t getting any seperation.

In other words, this team needs receivers like the refs need a clue.

]]> By: purpleguy http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163058 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:16:25 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163058 Keeping him around won’t be a big deal at all if the Vikes want him — he’s signed through next season and there’s always the franchise tag. What slays me are these PR cycled “statements” from players that are set out in a fashion everyone readily knows didn’t come out of the players’ mouth.

]]> By: tjacks7 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2163056 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 21:16:05 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2163056 tjacks7 says:
Dec 6, 2012 3:00 PM
Please, please, please let it be on the Vikings. Preferably without the lethal trio of Frazier, Musgrave, and Ponder.

You forgot Speilman

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Speilman has only had full control of the roster for one draft. He added Matt Kalil, Harrison Smith, Josh Robinson, Rhett Ellison, Jarious Wright, and Blair Walsh who all look like real players. His draft was great.

He bought himself some more time, IMO.

]]> By: ProDolphinsTalk http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162964 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:51:15 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162964 Every team needs a guy like this; especially my Dolphins.

]]> By: dublindemonszfl http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162890 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:30:07 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162890 This guy is so tough and hated playing with a crappy qb so bad he cut his own tendon. Ask for a trade Percy, see if you can get them to trade Ponder! He’s terrible and getting worse each week.

]]> By: rickytheviking http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162871 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:25:21 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162871 tjacks7 says:
Dec 6, 2012 3:00 PM
Please, please, please let it be on the Vikings. Preferably without the lethal trio of Frazier, Musgrave, and Ponder.

You forgot Speilman

]]> By: jasncondit http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162869 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:24:40 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162869 If he is indeed a Free Agent, you can bet Martin Mayhew will be calling. Now that we’re dumping Titus Young funnel those dollars toward Harvin and put him opposite Megatron. Lethal!

]]> By: burto4 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162862 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:23:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162862 If upper managment does not re sign him i will be HIGHLY upset. Dude plays his heart out and is so much fun to watch! LOCK PERCY UP!!

]]> By: steelerben http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162858 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:22:44 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162858 Speaking of All Day, if Harvin is smart, he will talk to him about how to rehab an injury.

]]> By: shaggytoodle http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162845 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:20:02 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162845 Thats tough to do, improving without practice is hard, he did make some pretty good strides this season.

I also believe that is, because of him making practice and not having migraines causing him to miss them.

]]> By: tjacks7 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/06/harvin-vows-to-come-back-stronger-and-better-than-ever/#comment-2162788 Thu, 06 Dec 2012 20:00:56 +0000 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=1573481#comment-2162788 Please, please, please let it be on the Vikings. Preferably without the lethal trio of Frazier, Musgrave, and Ponder.

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