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Report: Spanos will fire both Smith and Turner

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For months, if not years, it seemed like the A.J. Smith/Norv Turner situation was an either/or for the Chargers.

It appears it’s going to be both.

According to Kevin Acee of U-T San Diego, the decision has already been made by Chargers owner Dean Spanos to fire both his general manager and head coach.

Sources told Acee that Spanos decided on Turner’s fate “at least a month ago,” but has only recently “resigned himself to the fact that Smith can’t be kept in the current environment of plummeting performance and fan unrest.”

The fact he hasn’t done so yet is more of a preference to wait until the end of the season rather than an acknowledgement the Chargers still have a chance.

Acee reports that director of player personnel Jimmy Raye is the apparent replacement for Smith, while Turner’s replacement isn’t known yet.

The Chargers will owe Smith $4 million for his remaining two years and Turner $3 million for the final year of his contract.

Smith joined the team in 2002, Turner in 2007.

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83 Responses to “Report: Spanos will fire both Smith and Turner”
  1. davikes says: Dec 6, 2012 5:34 PM

    Well its about time.

  2. 31freezy says: Dec 6, 2012 5:38 PM

    FINALLY, the day has come Chargers fans.

  3. yank3525 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:38 PM

    Haven’t been this happy since LT broke the TD record.

  4. donterrelli says: Dec 6, 2012 5:38 PM

    Shocker.

  5. chilomane says: Dec 6, 2012 5:39 PM

    Two years too late.

  6. axltcu says: Dec 6, 2012 5:40 PM

    Smith should have been fired 5 years ago and Turner should have never been hired to begin with.

  7. dannymac17 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:40 PM

    i am crying tears of joy.

    this is the best early christmas present EVER

  8. kevinmanosur says: Dec 6, 2012 5:40 PM

    my birthday wish finally came true, it only took about 6 years

  9. sdcameron says: Dec 6, 2012 5:40 PM

    Hooray! FINALLY!

  10. len462 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:41 PM

    Well at least Smith still has some time to use his exceptional people skills to talk Spanos out of firing him… oh wait…

  11. skeebo80 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:42 PM

    Smith should’ve been gone A LONG TIME AGO

  12. huskersrock1 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:43 PM

    Norval shouls have never been hired in the first place. How did Spanos become a billioniare with decision making like this?

  13. milkmandanimal says: Dec 6, 2012 5:43 PM

    You forgot to add “about three or four years too late” to that headline.

  14. peytonsneck18 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:43 PM

    dont forger Phillip “the turnover” Rivers too!!!

  15. profootballwalk says: Dec 6, 2012 5:44 PM

    Was the captain of the Titanic fired while the ship went down?

  16. chargerdillon says: Dec 6, 2012 5:44 PM

    The only coach who would come to San Diego is one who is desperate for a coaching position on a completely bad team, or a coach who just lost his job and be picked up on the cheap.

    My initial guess would be Andy Reid, but if there’s potential for him to actually get a bigger contract elsewhere, he’ll take it and the Chargers will sign either their special teams coach or defense coach as the next head coach.

    The one thing that will not happen, is the Spanos family spending quality money for a quality coach. The last time they brought in a quality coach, they fired him after going 14-2 handing the franchise the best regular season record they’ve ever had, and the very first time the team ever went 8-0 at home.

    That’s right, THEY FIRED THAT GUY.

    I’m a Chargers fan, why? I don’t know at this point

  17. AlanSaysYo says: Dec 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    Don’t celebrate until your new coach is named, San Diego. Andy Reid is the alpha version of Norv Turner.

  18. thejabronisayz says: Dec 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    Norv Turner was handed the keys to a Ferrari after Marty was fired. And he destroyed it.

  19. brianforster says: Dec 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    every time this happens i daydream for a bit about what it must be like to be “fired” knowing you will make millions of dollars the following year(s) without lifting a finger. can’t really be too tough of a pill to swallow.

  20. bamj6 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:45 PM

    On the Chargers side, is Jimmy Raye part of the Smith/Turner poison or is he highly thought of as a personnel guy

    On the Giants side, if any of the FO people under Reese gets a GM job somewhere, AJ Smith could have a landing spot.

  21. revischrist16 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    It seems like a lot of people on the internet think Norv Turner is a good offensive coordinator. Personally I think he was lucky and had great talent in Dallas to win those Superbowls in the 90s.

    Thumbs up if he’s a good O-Coordinator
    Thumbs down if he was just lucky

    Thanks, have a good weekend.

  22. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    FINALLY.

  23. davekezer says: Dec 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    If a team is smart, they’ll hire him as an OC and an OC only. That’s the only shot Norv has of being relevant in the NFL again.

  24. harv44 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    It’s about time, this team has been in decay for years.

  25. Marv says: Dec 6, 2012 5:47 PM

    Norv will be a fine OC somewhere!

  26. deelron says: Dec 6, 2012 5:48 PM

    As long as he doesn’t hire Jimmy Raye Sr for a job, it has to be looking up.

  27. tindeaux says: Dec 6, 2012 5:48 PM

    yay!!! my brother promised to throw a bbq party when this happen…

  28. shootscuz says: Dec 6, 2012 5:49 PM

    Now the question becomes who will they hire.

  29. Sarcasm says: Dec 6, 2012 5:50 PM

    Dear Mr. Spanos.

    Please leave this dynamic duo in place.

    Signed AFC teams everywhere.

  30. murtdurt says: Dec 6, 2012 5:50 PM

    This should worry any team in the afc west as the only thing holding this team back is competent decision making and coaching. Anyone other then these 2 clowns will help improve this team

  31. warewolf94 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:50 PM

    He’s a great coordinator, he’ll find work real soon

  32. jcdavey2011 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:51 PM

    i don’t know hwo idiots keep bringing up marty

    that playoff cancer…..

  33. grogansheroes says: Dec 6, 2012 5:51 PM

    This is great news for Charger fans. Not to rain on your parade or anything, but the guy that hired Smith and Turner is the guy that will hire the next coach and GM.

  34. themanchine says: Dec 6, 2012 5:51 PM

    chargerdillon: Andy Reid is drooling over Cam.

    As far as San Diego, maybe Ken Whisenhunt or Josh McDaniels?

    Irony would be if they give the job to Brian Schottenheimer.

  35. mrgroovesd says: Dec 6, 2012 5:52 PM

    Norv should’ve never been hired and AJ gone a long time ago for letting so many players walk that the team needed (i.e. VJ, Sproles and LT)

  36. silvestregonzalez74 says: Dec 6, 2012 5:52 PM

    That’s great news for the chargers their fans and san diego.maybe now fans can start showing up to games.drum up support for a new stadium to stay in sd.as for the coach maybe Andy reid,russ grim,or just maybe Brian shaw from stanford.

  37. thepvyharvin says: Dec 6, 2012 5:54 PM

    Come OC the Vikings Norv!

  38. nflhof says: Dec 6, 2012 5:56 PM

    Jimmy Raye comes in and who is the new #2? John Spanos! Oh the horror! Jerry Jones minus the stadium and money just daddys little boy.

  39. huskylawyer says: Dec 6, 2012 5:56 PM

    Vincent Jackson is laughing somewhere…

  40. 40zntallcanz says: Dec 6, 2012 5:58 PM

    Hire Jimmy Raye?! The guy with the goofy sun hats and slept through 49er games as their OC?! Now that would be a huge mistake….

  41. buckyhamm says: Dec 6, 2012 6:01 PM

    Now it’s happened will AJ’s assistant make the short list?

    Dean failed big time when he chose Bulter’s assistant to be GM and that failure was compounded with the hiring of Norv.

  42. stevent92 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:01 PM

    “Fan Unrest?” Half of the stadium is visiting fans that cheer-on this trainwreck. Not really sure where the “unrest” is coming from.

  43. araidersfan says: Dec 6, 2012 6:03 PM

    I guess the more a lie/myth is repeated the more it becomes recognized as fact. Such as: ‘ “Norv” Turner is a good/great OC’.

    Well the fact is that Troy Aikman, Emmit Smith, Michael Irvin were HOFers who were excellent well after “Norv” left the Cowboys. The fact is that as the OC in Miami the Dolphins’ offense regressed under “Norv”. “Norv” was the playcaller as HC in Oakland and the Raiders’ offense became even more anemic.

    And if “Norv” is a good/great offensive mind, then why did Rivers go from being a Pro Bowl level QB (before Turner arrived) to being a lower-tier QB?

  44. fanofevilempire says: Dec 6, 2012 6:03 PM

    he should give them one more chance and then fire them.
    c’mon it’s the holiday season.

  45. chipwade says: Dec 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    The recent success of teams firing the head coach and GM should help the Chargers with this decision. Seattle are Atlanta are good examples of this. Get in coaches and management that are on the same page and not be afraid to shake up the roster. Build the team from the ground up.

  46. mikebrownfaux says: Dec 6, 2012 6:05 PM

    I don’t understand the AFC West and firing coaches who have things going the right direction. Schottenheimer should have never been fired, and neither should have Hue Jackson. Norv Turner may have walked in to a better situation than any coach has ever been hired in to.

  47. vicksprman says: Dec 6, 2012 6:06 PM

    Captain obvious to the rescue, they could have interviewed me and could have told them tha.

  48. boltbacker says: Dec 6, 2012 6:07 PM

    You can have him. Remeber, Norv was a “Offensive Genius” in Dallas with a team full of Pro Bowlers and future Hall of Famers. He has forgotten how to run the football and manage the clock. If he were the OC of the Vikings, AD would have stat lines like: 11 carries, 36 yards; 7 rec. 65 yards.

    If you want to see that, you’re welcome to him.

  49. carlsbadboltfan says: Dec 6, 2012 6:08 PM

    Well at least we know when it’ll happen.

  50. itmarkh says: Dec 6, 2012 6:10 PM

    Spanos was an idiot to hire Turner as a head coach to begin with. He already had failed as a head coach twice before including six years with the Redskins. I couldn’t understand why anyone would hire him as a head coach. I knew he’s fail again and get canned eventualy.

  51. joetoronto says: Dec 6, 2012 6:11 PM

    John Spanos is to officially take over the GM reins in 2014, while Jimmy Raye handles the duties in 2013.

    John Spanos will have full input immediately though.

    This should be great, lol.

  52. edge661 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:11 PM

    About time. No true fans in San Diego

  53. stratomaticfan says: Dec 6, 2012 6:11 PM

    I can only hope they replace him with Wade Phillips or some other equally inane coach.

    #GoRaiders

  54. mazblast says: Dec 6, 2012 6:14 PM

    huskersrock1 says:

    Norval shouls have never been hired in the first place. How did Spanos become a billioniare with decision making like this
    ————————————–
    Didn’t he inherit it? If not, he sure acts like an idiot who inherited a team.

  55. 303bengalguy says: Dec 6, 2012 6:15 PM

    Congrats Charger fans!

  56. purplekoolaid1 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:16 PM

    Norval Eugene Turner.

  57. effjohntaylornorelation says: Dec 6, 2012 6:18 PM

    This seems to have taken f-o-r-e-v-e-r. Real estate and football are vastly different businesses.

  58. ilovefoolsball says: Dec 6, 2012 6:19 PM

    So does this mean that the Chargers will no longer be the development league for the rest of the NFL?

  59. bubbybrister/shovelpass says: Dec 6, 2012 6:19 PM

    They should hire Rex Ryan after he gets fired from New York…you know, so he can win a few more championships for SD.

  60. dkrauss93 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:20 PM

    This is a sad day for Bronco fans. They know if they’re down 24-0 at half the only HC who could blow that game is Norv Turner.

  61. joeychargers says: Dec 6, 2012 6:22 PM

    Finally! Dreams can come true!

    Now lets hear it for the Chargers new HC…. Chip Kelly! …..Oh wait, I might still be dreaming.

  62. manningbowl88 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:30 PM

    bamj6 says:
    Dec 6, 2012 5:45 PM
    On the Chargers side, is Jimmy Raye part of the Smith/Turner poison or is he highly thought of as a personnel guy

    On the Giants side, if any of the FO people under Reese gets a GM job somewhere, AJ Smith could have a landing spot.
    __________
    DO NOT start giving ppl the idea he could go to NYG.. i want him nowhere around my hometown SB champs lol

  63. Deb says: Dec 6, 2012 6:31 PM

    Wow … really didn’t think Spanos had it in him. Maybe if Norv had gone 14-2 with the best record in the league he would have been fired sooner “in the best interest of the entire Charger organization.”

  64. mikespimpin says: Dec 6, 2012 6:32 PM

    TO ALL YOU PEOPLE WHINING ABOUT MARTY’S FIRING:

    Marty SD Post Season Record: 0-2
    Norv SD Post Season Record: 3-3

  65. bucsfan5000 says: Dec 6, 2012 6:34 PM

    Hire Jimmy Raye?! The guy with the goofy sun hats and slept through 49er games as their OC?! Now that would be a huge mistake….
    —————————————————-
    That’s his father who’s in Tampa.

  66. boltsmobilecutlasssupreme says: Dec 6, 2012 6:34 PM

    Dont want Andy Reid, go get Chip Kelly!

  67. rugbyisbetter says: Dec 6, 2012 6:37 PM

    As an Eagle Fan I really hope to feel this way soon. It will be a great breath of fresh air to see Andy go. I mean the guy is a good coach. When he was at his best he was great. But through time, family tragedies, never finding a DC to replace Jim Johnson, his skills and team have diminished.

    I think a new position somewhere else with a great QB (I think Reid would love Rivers) would do him wonders to re-invigorate himself and get back to the super bowl…

    Unfortunately he just cant do it in Philly.

  68. KIR says: Dec 6, 2012 6:47 PM

    Smith is a great talent evaluator, however, he’s a horrible GM. He should be hired to evaluate talent, however, never allowed to negotiate contracts. He treats players like crap and this de-motivates the entire team.

  69. magnumpei says: Dec 6, 2012 6:49 PM

    Wouldn’t it be funny/awkward if the Chargers miraculously made the playoffs and then won the Super Bowl?

  70. amlowlife says: Dec 6, 2012 6:52 PM

    Nooooo!!!!! This is terrible news!! Give them another couple of years–they deserve it.

    Please reconsider, Dean. They’ve done nothing but good…for the Broncos!

  71. planosteelerfan says: Dec 6, 2012 6:54 PM

    To Me. Spanos, acknowledge your mistake and hire Marty back!

  72. rayguyreturns says: Dec 6, 2012 6:55 PM

    Let’s hope they replace them with Art Shell and Tom “bed and breakfast” Walsh.

    Better yet, Greg Knapp should be available next season.

  73. southpaw2k says: Dec 6, 2012 7:06 PM

    Wow, so it only took Spanos six years to figure out that Norv Turner was a terrible head coach.

  74. brenenostler says: Dec 6, 2012 7:21 PM

    Smith deserves it. Who fires a coach for going 14-2???

  75. johnnyhambone says: Dec 6, 2012 7:21 PM

    bring back marty ball!! marty is still better than at least 28 other nfl head coaches today

  76. iamjimmyjack says: Dec 6, 2012 7:36 PM

    The most interesting part of the interview is when he said they are moving the team to Los Angeles. :/

  77. mdc21787 says: Dec 6, 2012 8:38 PM

    congrats guys, when the redskins got rid of vinny cerrato and jim zorn i was just as elated! vinny screwed my team over, he was in charge of SO many bad decisions and look where we are now, in the playoff mix, franchise QB and our team is being run correctly now. i know how you feel right now, good luck!

  78. bengalskuta82 says: Dec 6, 2012 8:49 PM

    Ok,,hahah..So these guys know when they’ll be fired..and theres 4 games remaining.ok..Well,count your days

  79. tbd3 says: Dec 6, 2012 9:18 PM

    I will never understand how Schottenheimer could be canned after losing two games, but Norv can hang on for so long. Mind-boggling.

  80. ambitoos says: Dec 6, 2012 10:42 PM

    Don’t fire Turner. We need to continue to lose so that we get a high draft choice for our new coach. But I see no reason to keep AJ around. Remember AJ, your a charger untill your not a charger. It is what it is.

  81. MichaelEdits says: Dec 6, 2012 11:15 PM

    If there’s a Three’s Company revival, Norv can get a job playing Mr Roper. I have no idea who’d hire Smith, though. Maybe McDonald’s.

  82. axespray says: Dec 7, 2012 9:22 PM

    Aj Smith had 2 draft classes to his name – 03 & 05 … since then, The guy passed up on awesome players (Clay Matthews/Geno Atkins) for guys like… Antwan Appleton & ….some Cam Thomas kid.

  83. mullman76 says: Dec 10, 2012 9:26 AM

    Disappointing news. I was hoping that Norv and AJ could secure a lifetime contract, but all good things must come to an end.

    At least the RAIDERS have a head start on the rebuild- look for the chargers to be “without SB rings” for the next decade and beyond- as it has always been.

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