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Sunday night wrap-up: Packers showing new look

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Uh-oh, somebody learned a new trick.

The Packers might have just showed something that could make them the favorite in the NFC, something so out of character you want to check IDs.

They ran.

No, really, the Packers. They did. Honest.

The go-ahead touchdown in their 27-20 win over the Lions came on a possession on which they didn’t pass the ball. Their seven play, 57-yard touchdown drive to take the lead all came on the ground. And it wasn’t just Aaron Rodgers scrambling. They used Alex Green, brought Ryan Grant out of unemployment, gave it to DuJuan Harris, who was cut by the Jaguars earlier this year.

The Packers finished with 140 yards on the ground, after running for 152 last week in a win over the Vikings.

That could be trouble, as it lends some balance to a team which we know can throw it with anyone.

The Packers don’t have the blockers to be an old school, cloud-of-dust team, but being able to show a different aspect is only going to make Rodgers more dangerous.

And that’s not anything anyone else in the NFC really wanted to think about.

Here are five more things we learned during Sunday Night Football:

1. Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh might not be a dirty player.

He is at the very least a selfish player.

His third quarter penalty, for shoving Aaron Rodgers after taking a few steps, wasn’t the kind of shot that will earn Suh another fine. Or at least it shouldn’t. But it was a cheap 15 yards, and the Packers turned it into a touchdown.

It was just a senseless, pointless penalty. He knows refs are looking at him more closely than others because of his reputation. And he still does it.

But as long as it’s tolerated, the Lions are getting exactly what they deserve.

2. That said, the casual attitude about what might be a lack of institutional control with the Lions is amazing.

They were up 14-0 when they were penalized for excessive celebration, the kind of thing smart teams don’t tolerate.

Lions coach Jim Schwartz took shots at Titus Young last week for being a bonehead, but there are a lot of folks on his sideline who seem to be in this for themselves, or aren’t being held accountable for silly mistakes.

3. Packers cornerback Tramon Williams doesn’t get nearly the amount of publicity  as other cover men.

But after playing one-armed last year, he’s back to the kind of excellent defense he played before shoulder problems.

No one’s going to take Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson completely out of a game, but Williams came as close as anyone has (Johnson finished with 10 catches for 118 yards, and it seemed like a slow night).

4. They usually can’t/don’t run, their offensive line is a mess, and their defense is too banged up to do all the things they’d like to do.

And the Packers biggest problem in the postseason might be their kicker.

Mason Crosby missed from 52 in the third quarter, extending a bad run for a guy they’ve taken great pains to defend.

Then again, sending him out to try a 52-yarder when he’s been missing, on a night when the conditions are awful for kicking, doesn’t do much to help him build confidence.

A punt is not a bad play. Take the field position. Pin the Lions deep. Try again later, instead of giving the other guys the ball at midfield.

5. Speaking of missing parts for the Packers, Clay Matthews can’t get well fast enough.

They have no pass rush to speak of without him, and they’re pushing all the buttons they have at their disposal. Sometimes scheme can only take you so far, and the lack of physical talent can’t be X’d and O’d away.

That’s where the Packers are now defensively.

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69 Responses to “Sunday night wrap-up: Packers showing new look”
  1. rollore says: Dec 9, 2012 11:43 PM

    Everyone with a football IQ knows to run the ball when it’s cold as hell outside. The footballs are tough to throw as well as catch in frigid temps. And in the playoffs is where the contenders separate themselves from the pretenders by 1) running the ball and 2) stopping the run.

  2. jerrytagge says: Dec 9, 2012 11:43 PM

    This look is known as future “NFC North Champions”.

  3. meegs34 says: Dec 9, 2012 11:44 PM

    The Schwartz got stumped.

  4. Bar None says: Dec 9, 2012 11:44 PM

    Crosby went 3-4 last week and 1-2 this week with his miss this week being 52 yards in swirling wind. I think he is getting his confidence back.

    I would also add the Sam Shields and Casey Hayward are crazy good young players.

  5. meegs34 says: Dec 9, 2012 11:45 PM

    Green Bay has COBBled together a nice offense.

  6. Bar None says: Dec 9, 2012 11:46 PM

    Correction 2-3 tonight. My bad.

  7. eastsideballa says: Dec 9, 2012 11:48 PM

    As a Lions fan I want the Lions to trade Calvin and not because I don’t think he’s the best WR alive, but he deserves better.

  8. throwdeepbaby says: Dec 9, 2012 11:50 PM

    My Lions sure know how to keep a man down. have to give the sorry Packers credit for kicking our butts. I still am not turning my back on the Lions. Ride or die with them I am not jumping ship.

  9. tokyosandblaster says: Dec 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    I remember when silly lions & vikings fans predicted the Packers losing to the lowly lions.

    Ah, to be young and foolish.

  10. wafflestomp says: Dec 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    Cue all of the Discount Double Choke comments. Oh wait…….

  11. nfldtw says: Dec 9, 2012 11:51 PM

    Anyone else see the smirk on Aaron Rodgers face at the end of the game? I could read his mind, “21 years in a row now, I don’t even have to throw a TD to beat you guys, I love playing you at Lambeau. The only win that’s guaranteed every year!”

  12. 989lions says: Dec 9, 2012 11:55 PM

    Only thing I am here to say is that 10 receptions on 13 targets for 118 yards, is not and never will be SHUTTING SOMEONE DOWN. Let’s leave that narrative out of the game if its any other receiver in the league its considered a good/great game. Calvin is so good that if he doesnt have 175 yards and 2 TD’s its a slow night.

  13. thestrategyexpert says: Dec 9, 2012 11:56 PM

    Tons of Lions mistakes in this game, including some terrible clock mngmt stuff at the end once again. At least 5 opportunities for INTs on Stafford but only 1 on the stat sheet. He’ll get more money on his next contract when we forget about this game later on.

  14. InFact says: Dec 9, 2012 11:58 PM

    Detroit should be embarrassed.

    It’s front four DL in the second half was
    bashed by Green Bay’s inferior OL.

  15. packfaninchitown says: Dec 10, 2012 12:00 AM

    Sweet victory tonight! Next week we clinch the division in the sweetest way possible, by sweeping the Bears in their own house and taking it from them. BOOYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  16. axespray says: Dec 10, 2012 12:00 AM

    No injuries this week ?
    —— WHEW!!!!!!

  17. textexington says: Dec 10, 2012 12:01 AM

    This new look is known as Superbowl XLVII Champions!!!!!!!!!!

    Go Pack Go!!!

  18. peopletrains says: Dec 10, 2012 12:03 AM

    I am perfectly happy with their recent devotion to the running game as long as they do not do any dive plays to John Kuhn.

  19. peopletrains says: Dec 10, 2012 12:04 AM

    Oh, and how about this Barclay fella?! Now if only a light went off in Newhouses’ brain.

  20. trapshoot says: Dec 10, 2012 12:05 AM

    They played well in the 2nd half and their makeshift offensive line did amazingly well.

  21. taskforcefreddy says: Dec 10, 2012 12:06 AM

    @989Lions:
    ‘Only thing I am here to say is that 10 receptions on 13 targets for 118 yards, is not and never will be SHUTTING SOMEONE DOWN. Let’s leave that narrative out of the game if its any other receiver in the league its considered a good/great game. Calvin is so good that if he doesnt have 175 yards and 2 TD’s its a slow night.’

    Mike Daniels had more touchdowns than Calvin Johnson. Yards mean nothing… Stats are for losers. Scoreboard.

  22. tokyosandblaster says: Dec 10, 2012 12:09 AM

    989lions says:
    Dec 9, 2012 11:55 PM
    Only thing I am here to say is that 10 receptions on 13 targets for 118 yards, is not and never will be SHUTTING SOMEONE DOWN. Let’s leave that narrative out of the game if its any other receiver in the league its considered a good/great game. Calvin is so good that if he doesnt have 175 yards and 2 TD’s its a slow night.

    —-

    Well, to be fair, Williams was thrown at 9 times, and allowed 4 catches for 54 yards. Against Calvin Johnson, that’s not bad.

  23. gbpbacker84 says: Dec 10, 2012 12:13 AM

    The same way you give well deserved credit to Megatron with no supporting cast, realize that AROD is doing the same thing with garbage protection.

  24. war27 says: Dec 10, 2012 12:14 AM

    One thing will always get you a win also….

    Having the refs miss so many calls.

    Collinsworth set an NFL broadcasting record tonight for saying things like should have been a penalty, maybe was a penalty, almost a penalty and possibly is a penalty. 9/10 of them was being said about the Packers on replays of calls Ray Charles could have saw.

    I said it here last year and I’m saying it here again, the Packer get away with a huge amount of holding on that OL. It’s part of every great QB’s stats.

  25. jerrykramer says: Dec 10, 2012 12:14 AM

    That was the quietest 10 catch 118 yard game you will ever see. Johnson is the man, sure, but he wasn’t a game changer. Made no big plays. Cobb made 3.

  26. rjwill says: Dec 10, 2012 12:17 AM

    Nnamdi shut down Megatron earlier this year. Hard for me to forget it- it’s the only week this entire season he didn’t blow coverages and actually deserved his massive paycheck.

  27. war27 says: Dec 10, 2012 12:19 AM

    And Suh’s QB knock down wasn’t anything dirty or bad. That call was iffy and it was made because of who did the hitting and who got hit. That should never weigh in the outcome of NFL games. It’s why I’m growing really tired of this game.

    If thats not Rodgers or Brady getting hit like that the flags stay in their pockets.

    It’s another advantage the “good” QB’s have? Don’t breath on them or you could draw a flag.

  28. skittlesareyum says: Dec 10, 2012 12:20 AM

    989lions says:
    Dec 9, 2012 11:55 PM
    Only thing I am here to say is that 10 receptions on 13 targets for 118 yards, is not and never will be SHUTTING SOMEONE DOWN. Let’s leave that narrative out of the game if its any other receiver in the league its considered a good/great game. Calvin is so good that if he doesnt have 175 yards and 2 TD’s its a slow night.

    ——————————

    After the game NBC had the actual yards allowed when Tramon was coming CJ, and it was like 54. That’s a pretty damn good performance against someone of CJ’s talent.

  29. matckeeper says: Dec 10, 2012 12:20 AM

    Interesting win for the Packers.
    Ugh, yeah. Interesting. This team is a bit confusing right now, but a win is a win.
    On thing is for sure, if they can start getting a healthy pass rush on team their D could be pretty solid.

  30. csilojohnson says: Dec 10, 2012 12:23 AM

    I’ll agree on everything but the Calvin Johnson remark. I have seen him completely shut down on a couple occasions. Tonight he wasnt even remotely shut down. Not in the least.

  31. wicuda says: Dec 10, 2012 12:27 AM

    Statically johnson wasn’t shut down, but Williams held him on check so he couldn’t take over the game. The other lion fan is correct, megateon should be traded – to Green Bay!

  32. firstvictory says: Dec 10, 2012 12:32 AM

    All things considered, the Pack look good…can’t see them stumbling next week @ CHI. Called it last week — I see the Bears (and the Ravens) losing out, missing the playoffs.

  33. hovenaut says: Dec 10, 2012 12:36 AM

    Last I checked, Suh rhymed with Duh.

  34. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2012 12:41 AM

    PFT really doesn’t like Detroit.

    That’s pretty obvious.

    Chris Collinsworth and Al Michaels both defended Suh several times. Surprisingly, since they both have been highly critical of guys over the years. That call, which was his first penalty outside an encroachment, was iffy at that. How many times has PFT posted and comments supported articles saying calls like that are taking away from football?! Now it’s selfish? Really. Stick to one side of the logic.

    Nobody talks about Suh as a man, ya know, in REAL life, off the PLAYING field.

    People speak as if he goes around sacking grandmas on the street and kicking kids in the junk.

    In reality, he does “Make a Wish” things, PFT knows about it, and donates money to his school to fund an engineering scholarship. Runs loads of camps and helpful kids programs. He recently made a kid’s dream come true, and he didn’t kick him or push him. He hugged him, and made his life literally. Since the kid may not make it to his teen years, his short life is much richer for having someone he looks up to be kind and generous to him. But go ahead, compare him to scum. Because all of you are such saints. I’m sure nobody posting here does anything wrong AT ALL EVER.

    But yeah, him hitting Jay Cutler too hard makes him the equivalent to homicidal criminals. Totally makes sense….

  35. 7ransponder says: Dec 10, 2012 12:50 AM

    wafflestomp says:
    Dec 9, 2012 11:51 PM
    Cue all of the Discount Double Choke comments. Oh wait…….

    ————————–

    We’re saving those for the playoffs.

  36. raider23mike says: Dec 10, 2012 12:55 AM

    Packers will win the Division by squeezing hard wins against bad teams (Jaguars) its ok. Their Cinderella story will come to an end once they face real teams in Jan.

    Same with the Broncos

  37. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2012 1:03 AM

    Real teams? Like Atlanta or San Francisco?

    Yeah, both of those teams are playing SO much better than GB….

  38. bender4700 says: Dec 10, 2012 1:05 AM

    and those are the only two teams with better records in the NFC.

    Oh wait, you meant HOUSTON?

    Oh yeah, wait…. who gave Houston their first loss?

    Oh yeah.

    Der. sucks when you argue without thinking about FACTS.

  39. jerrytagge says: Dec 10, 2012 1:17 AM

    Sweep the leg, then sweep the division.

  40. tokyosandblaster says: Dec 10, 2012 1:18 AM

    war27 says:
    Dec 10, 2012 12:14 AM
    One thing will always get you a win also….

    Having the refs miss so many calls.

    Collinsworth set an NFL broadcasting record tonight for saying things like should have been a penalty, maybe was a penalty, almost a penalty and possibly is a penalty. 9/10 of them was being said about the Packers on replays of calls Ray Charles could have saw.

    I said it here last year and I’m saying it here again, the Packer get away with a huge amount of holding on that OL. It’s part of every great QB’s stats.

    —-

    So you whine a lot about nonexistent problems. You must be a vikings fan.

    There were a few holds on the other side that weren’t called. You’re going to be ok. Promise.

  41. tokyosandblaster says: Dec 10, 2012 1:20 AM

    7ransponder says:
    Dec 10, 2012 12:50 AM
    wafflestomp says:
    Dec 9, 2012 11:51 PM
    Cue all of the Discount Double Choke comments. Oh wait…….

    ————————–

    We’re saving those for the playoffs.

    —-

    Awww… look at the Vikings fans trying to make fun of teams that actually make the playoffs. That’s like a middle school dropout making fun of a guy that took a little longer to get that 5th masters degree.

  42. primetime0552 says: Dec 10, 2012 1:25 AM

    hovenaut says:
    Dec 10, 2012 12:36 AM
    Last I checked, Suh rhymed with Duh.

    =================================

    They actually don’t rhyme at all. Keep trolling a player that not only makes more money than you, is a lot stronger than you, but also has a higher IQ than you.

    Good thing for you, ‘would you fries with that’, doesn’t require any intelligence at all.

    My 5 year old niece could tell you that those words don’t rhyme.

  43. shaggytoodle says: Dec 10, 2012 1:26 AM

    GB has been grinding out an injury riddled season. Tonight it seems like they may have found some capable young players that may be able to help them while they make the push.

    A young OT and RB if they pan out may give them a few extra options going forward. Just as the developing secondary has for the last 3 seasons.

  44. packfaninvikeland says: Dec 10, 2012 2:03 AM

    lol Glad to see Grant back. Was pissed when the Pack didnt resign him, this is his time of year so hopefully he can be serviceable and I think he will. Green is improving. With the running game improving, Clay and Woodson coming back soon, Jordy come playoff time…might be sniffing a SB appearance.

  45. ultra8201 says: Dec 10, 2012 2:09 AM

    Hey raidermike,

    P.S. the raiders suck!

  46. gwahknows says: Dec 10, 2012 2:10 AM

    “It’s because the national don’t know jack squat about about Bears or Jay Cutler. I made a thread on a message board asking why people hate Cutler and no one gave a good reason. Just stuff said on national broadcast. Aaron Rodgers had a little spat on 60 minutes that made him come off as mighty dickish and he’s often very arrogant in press conferences.
    I guess backing into one super bowl gives him a pass…”

    Incredible insight from the bears.

  47. stumpy456 says: Dec 10, 2012 2:15 AM

    I sincerely hope Calvin gets the record for yards, he deserves to break some kind of record. We should just admire this guy because I think it’s gonna be a while before someone shows up with his kind of talent and heart.
    Lions have really struggled, but he doesn’t quit. Imagine being on the 2008 lions. He was, but he keeps his head in the right place. Right now the Lions have no one else to line up next to him, and to still have a legitimate chance to break Jerry’s record is insane. and plus he doesn’t complain or act like a diva. Great kid. Respect.

  48. anaheim2dafullest says: Dec 10, 2012 2:23 AM

    because the raiders are a real team Packers smashed on the best team in the afc get a clue bro the team that usually wins is the team that gets hot@ the end and that’s what the packers are doing

  49. larryboodry says: Dec 10, 2012 3:58 AM

    “No one’s going to take Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson completely out of a game, but Williams came as close as anyone has (Johnson finished with 10 catches for 118 yards, and it seemed like a slow night).”

    Week 6 vs. the Bears: 3 receptions, 34 yards
    Week 7 vs. Seattle: 3 receptions, 46 yards

    For the whole game, not just agaainst any particular defender…Williams did great keeping CJ in check, but Johnson had a typical night overall.

    And to be fair, in those games where CJ was shut down, Titus Young had decent #s…Whatever happened to him?

  50. larryboodry says: Dec 10, 2012 4:03 AM

    “No one’s going to take Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson completely out of a game, but…”

    …but he may sometimes have REALLY slow games against the Bears and Seattle.

  51. packmanfan says: Dec 10, 2012 4:05 AM

    war27 says:
    Dec 10, 2012 12:14 AM
    One thing will always get you a win also….

    Having the refs miss so many calls.

    I said it here last year and I’m saying it here again, the Packer get away with a huge amount of holding on that OL. It’s part of every great QB’s stats.
    ———————————————————-

    The Packers O-line has more holes in it than all the Swiss cheese in the largest cheese warehouse in Wisconsin.
    How else can you explain that A-Rod is the #1 sacked QB in the NFL?

  52. larryboodry says: Dec 10, 2012 4:13 AM

    One more thing, gotta be fair to the Vikes, who held CJ to 5 catches for 54 yards…That said, what he has done in the other ten games this year is phenomenal.

  53. veence69 says: Dec 10, 2012 5:31 AM

    I love the confidence of these packer fans after beating the Lions and the QB-less Vikings.. I wonder if this year’s eventual choke will be anywhere as good as last year’s?

  54. filthymcnasty1 says: Dec 10, 2012 7:27 AM

    What happens when the Packers get all their walking wounded back?

  55. majikwen says: Dec 10, 2012 8:10 AM

    we’ll see next week, if the running game can make the bears ( and every other team ) come out of cover 2, then this team, with the defense getting healthy, can win the SB.

  56. rmc1995 says: Dec 10, 2012 8:21 AM

    1) This was Suh’s first personal foul all season. If two steps and a shove, as explained by the ref is unnecessary roughness, the refs ignored about three on Stafford.
    2)I’m mot sure why a team would need institutional control for a guy with two penalties, one of which is normally ignored throughout the league.
    3) Unless the Packers new trick was to hope quarterbacks have the ball slip out of their hands, the run game wouldn’t have meant squat last night. That gift TD was the biggest play in the game and it wasn’t some scary game plan, but a fluke play.

  57. asublimeday says: Dec 10, 2012 8:45 AM

    Tillman had a better game against Johnson.

  58. shlort says: Dec 10, 2012 8:45 AM

    LOL… Why whine about the Packers winning the game? Half of you cats arent even Lion fans, and you are bitching about the refs and everything else.

    Here is the deal. The Packers were actually called for penalties on some pretty iffy calls. I can think of 3 right in the 1st quarter.

    And Suh’s 15 yarder was Iffy? Really? He took 3 full steps toward Rodgers after Rodgers released the ball. Then he extrended his arm in an obvious push of frustration. It is against the rules, period.

    Anyway. The Lions lack discipline. That is why they are losing like they do. If a team gets a lead of 10 or more, that team should hold that lead 75% of the time. Last years Lions were disciplined and won the same games they are losing this season. It is all on the Coaches for not keeping control of how their team plays the game.

  59. faultylogic29 says: Dec 10, 2012 9:05 AM

    Great victory. This isn’t the first week the Packers have run the ball well. They ran it just as well last week against the Vikings. This is exactly what the offense needs, and I think they’re starting to show it’s not a fluke.

    I think Mason Crosby is back on track. That 52 yarder barely missed, and he was perfect on the rest of his kicks. It looks like every few years you just gotta be patient with Crosby for a few games.

  60. beedubyatoo says: Dec 10, 2012 9:19 AM

    Rgarding the Johnson vs. Williams machup, Michaels and Collinsworth mentioned repeatedly that Williams had man-to-man coverage without saftey help. That’s why Williams is getting the kudos he deserves.

    Tillman or any any of the other cb’s who limited CJ participated in 2 on 1′s.

  61. eddielionhead says: Dec 10, 2012 9:37 AM

    packers will never make it to the super bowl, they start to slow’ the giants,falcon’s, and 49ers will beat them. seahawks will take them down. the giants kicked their ass last week. charley mc carthy is a puppet

  62. jerrytagge says: Dec 10, 2012 11:07 AM

    “Charlie McCarthy” was actually a ventriloquist’s dummy, technically not just a puppet.

    Mike McCarthy, however, is the Super Bowl-winning coach of the Green Bay Packers who beats the Lions’ ass on a very regular basis.

    McCarthy is 12-1 all-time against Detroit, with the only loss coming when quarterback Aaron Rodgers sustained a first-half concussion.

  63. larryboodry says: Dec 10, 2012 2:16 PM

    gwahknows says: Dec 10, 2012 2:10 AM

    “It’s because the national don’t know jack squat about about Bears or Jay Cutler. I made a thread on a message board asking why people hate Cutler and no one gave a good reason. Just stuff said on national broadcast. Aaron Rodgers had a little spat on 60 minutes that made him come off as mighty dickish and he’s often very arrogant in press conferences.
    I guess backing into one super bowl gives him a pass…”

    Incredible insight from the bears.
    ——————————————
    Not sure where you found that quote, but it wasn’t written by the Bears, or any of their literate fans.

  64. shaggytoodle says: Dec 10, 2012 2:27 PM

    veence69 says: Dec 10, 2012 5:31 AM

    I love the confidence of these packer fans after beating the Lions and the QB-less Vikings.. I wonder if this year’s eventual choke will be anywhere as good as last year’s?
    ___________________________

    Yes they did it without their two best defenders, and an injured line, and missing one of their top 2 WRs each game.

    They will get healthier.

    If you choose to watch MNF tonight, when they show the records thus far, remember who has been they only team to beat the Texans.

    They also did it in a very convincing fashion

  65. packmanfan says: Dec 10, 2012 2:58 PM

    veence69 says:
    Dec 10, 2012 5:31 AM
    I love the confidence of these packer fans after beating the Lions and the QB-less Vikings.. I wonder if this year’s eventual choke will be anywhere as good as last year’s?
    ——————————————————————

    And don’t forget that the Pack did what no other team did. Beat the undefeated Texans in Houston.

    Packers and their fans deserve every single win after the Fail Mary in Seattle.
    We deserve the SB win more than any other teams or fans because of that.

  66. larryboodry says: Dec 10, 2012 3:42 PM

    packmanfan says:

    “Packers and their fans deserve every single win after the Fail Mary in Seattle. We deserve the SB win more than any other teams or fans because of that.”

    Okay, then…Should we just cancel the rest of the season, and hand you the trophy now?

  67. RUAHORNH8R says: Dec 10, 2012 3:55 PM

    Lions are a much better team all around…. They make stupid mistakes that has cost them @least 6 games this year! I don’t understand how they can absolutely dominate , then unravel so much!
    And , as an unbiased fan watching the game, they called 5-6 penalties against the Lions, @ crucial times that kept the Packers in it, then on the flip side, the “non” calls on the cheesy side were Not!
    I have grown used to this over the years. To say they were gifted numerous holds & PI calls, is to have blinders on. Collinsworth, didn’t even know what to say,

  68. beedubyatoo says: Dec 10, 2012 4:47 PM

    “…the giants kicked their ass last week”
    ———————
    Packers played Minnesota last week.

  69. jerrytagge says: Dec 10, 2012 6:46 PM

    Lions are a much better team all around…. They make stupid mistakes that has cost them @least 6 games this year!

    “Much better teams” than the Packers don’t make stupid mistakes that cost them at least 6 games this year… or any year.

    Therefore, the Lions cannot be a “much better team”.

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