Comments on: NFL morning after: Cam Newton silences his critics

By: avoidtheboyd

avoidtheboyd — Fri, 14 Dec 2012 00:26:39 +0000

None of the Texans looked like NFL football players the other night…

By: renra4

renra4 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:09:58 +0000

The Seahawks may not have to go on the road in the playoffs. If the 49ers lose this week to the Pats and the Hawks take care of business in Buffalo (Toronto) it sets the Hawks up to win the division — keeping in mind your thought that you would not pick anyone to beat Seattle at home. Seattle would essentially control their own destiny. They would have two home game remaining, 49ers and Rams. Those two wins at home (and the results I outlined above from this weekend’s games) would give them the NFC West Title and a home playoff game.

By: richc111

richc111 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:58:24 +0000

It’s official time to climb back on the bandwagon after a few good games. Hall of Fame he we come again. Oh also on the Ref using the replay as a crutch. They should because to bigger mistake is to blow and a play down that isn’t than have a replay that may appear to be obvious. That’s my 2 cents

By: eoneil32

eoneil32 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:53:51 +0000

Terrific article.

By: grandpoopah

grandpoopah — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:44:30 +0000

Great points about the officiating. There is absolutely no excuse for screwing up a call AFTER reviewing the replay for two minutes. I was watching RedZone and Scott Hansen showed the angle where Luck’s knee was on the ground with the ball still in his hand, at about the exact same moment that the incompetent officials were confirming the call on the field. It is an embarrassment to the NFL when a TV studio analyst makes the correct call while the officials blow it. I also saw the inexplicable call on Roddy White’s 2-point conversion (another call which they blew even after reviewing it) and several other headscratchers yesterday. I recall watching the linesman stand 15 feet away from the play with an unobstructed view of Miles Austin juggling a ball in the end zone and clearly failing to gain possession before stepping out of bounds… and then screaming at the TV when he called it a TD. At least in that case, they corrected the error after review, but it was still shocking to me how anyone with two eyes and half a brain could ever blow such an obvious call in the first place. I suppose these “real” refs are better than the replacements, but they’re still just awful.

By: flexnfx

flexnfx — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:42:40 +0000

I’m a lifelong Packer fan and am sick and tired page Aaron Rodger’s weird celebrations and Brady-like whining when things don’t go his way.

By: itsonlyaspeedbump

itsonlyaspeedbump — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:09:37 +0000

Funny how winning changes perception. Somehow Aaron Rodgers TD celebration (which was obnoxious enough to get a TV commercial) doesnt make him arrogant or immature…

By: electstat

electstat — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:01:03 +0000

burgundyandgold says:
Dec 10, 2012 8:02 AM
RGIII, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Russell Wilson, Andy Dalton, Ryan Tannenhill, Colin Kaepernick – man, the next 10 years will be great QB play in the NFL.

So long Tony Romo, Mike Vick. Enjoy it while you can Eli, Peyton and T. Brady. The league is moving on.

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Ok, let’s take a look.

Winning percent for RGIII, Luck, Newton, Wilson, Dalton, Tannenhill, Kaepernick this year: .518

Winning percent for Eli, Peyton, Brady: .710

League hardly moving on.

By: hartcarluncarlun

hartcarluncarlun — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:30:03 +0000

One game! One win!

By: jccarrollccrider

jccarrollccrider — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:59:00 +0000

[quote]Btw good win panthers against my falcons. Where was this effort all year when it mattered the most? Only team performs when they are either doubted to loose big or a opposing team offends them with comments lol.[/quote]

Ain’t it the truth! Sure wish the Panthers could play like that all the time. Any time the Panthers are “supposed” to win, they fall flat. Other times you think they don’t have a chance and they come out looking like rock stars. Very Jekyll and Hyde! You never know which team will show up!

By: joshsmith199065

joshsmith199065 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:58:04 +0000

Hopefully Cam N it beginning to get it, maturing over the past month along giving better interviews. Keep it up is what needs to be done.

By: doylemcmuffin

doylemcmuffin — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:49:49 +0000

Von Miller is the real Superman.

By: joshsmith199065

joshsmith199065 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:49:37 +0000

Every offensive player celebrate after a 1st down or a td, that will never change unless the defense prevents them. Reading these comments on these boards gives me a good laugh. So since when you can not celebrate with the team after scoring a td?

I guess Aaron R, Tom B are all about themselves because they celebrate after td’s? Rg3 high stepping 5-7 yards away for a td against the Vikings along jumping into the crowd of fans. I guess he’s all about himself too huh? Clearly not.

So much hate for players to fail etc, when we all should sit back and enjoy watching our favorite teams play without complaining so much for the little things.

By: joshsmith199065

joshsmith199065 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:42:19 +0000

Lol at the Jake D having less talent to work with than Cam N comment.

Didn’t Jake D inherit a young Steve S in his prime, not at the twilight of his career with Cam N? Yep, also had a another complimentary wr in Mushin M.

Didn’t Jake D have a great to solid top 5-15 scoring and total defense mostly throughout his tenure in Carolina? Yep

Didn’t Jake D have a 1,000 yard rusher more than what Cam N has now? Yep

When was the last time Williams or Stewart had a 1,000 yards or over rushing season ? 2009, what a joke that is.

John F is head and shoulders a better coach than Ron R. Win and looses are a Team stat, not individual. Heck if that’s the case, where would the Vikings be without Adrian P? Christian P over the past 6-7 had 150 passes yards or less.

By: joshsmith199065

joshsmith199065 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:33:56 +0000

Well I’m not surprise that Cam N get so much criticism, the so called magicians already predicted him a bust before he even played a snap in the NFL. Now he’s proven them wrong that he can play, they find many more reasons to not like him.

Oh and Ray Lewis last week came out and stated that Cam N didn’t “diss” him. Spending time hanging out in the off season, matter of fact espn did an article of Newton when he even stated Ray L called him and gave him advice in how to handle losing etc.

Having a solid coaching staff who can make in adjustments, disclipne the players, teach fundamentals helps the qb along the team win.
Something the lowly panthers don’t have.

Btw good win panthers against my falcons. Where was this effort all year when it mattered the most? Only team performs when they are either doubted to loose big or a opposing team offends them with comments lol.

By: blkmanwtan

blkmanwtan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:01:35 +0000

Football is a child’s game that grown men play. Celebrating is apart of football. Shoot, after Arron Rodgers scored a touchdown he did the “discount double check”. Out of all the celebrations in the end zone that occurred Sunday, some of you guys picked out ONE out of many. That mean the celebration is not what you don’t like, it is the person. One day I hope Cam grow up, but at the same time, the Cam nit-pickers need to grow up also.

By: azarkhan

azarkhan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:54:53 +0000

When Cam stops being a spoiled, arrogant brat then I will like him.

By: ibleedpurple420

ibleedpurple420 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:00:08 +0000

People need too be talking about AP! He will win the MVP by a landslide. Cam is a great QB, he needs a great O line and a great RB like we have in MN! Trade Cam 2 the Vikes!

By: dkrause71

dkrause71 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:41:17 +0000

The touting of yards thrown in these articles is pointless to me. Everyone is throwing for more yards so that Newton holds the rookie record isn’t a major selling point i feel. Just like Stafford throwing for around 5000 yards again, doesn’t make me feel like he is an all time great or even great for that matter.

Now, i think Newton is a decent QB who depending on hard-work and the Panthers improving who is around him could be a good QB but people always over hype and over criticize. It seems now people are quick to decide your the greatest or you just suck. Lets give these guys more rope before labeling someone.

By: nesuperfan

nesuperfan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:33:23 +0000

If you don’t like Cam Newton after watching him on Sunday against the Falcons, it says more about you than it does about him.
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I don’t like a QB’s play based on ONE game. I am lucky to have a great QB playing for my team, but even if I didn’t, I am not sure I would want Newton. He has not proven he can be consistent yet…it remains to be seen if he ever will.

By: htownhawk

htownhawk — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:29:51 +0000

Everyone giving credit to individual QB’s. But teams win games not individual. Brady or manning with pressure loses games just like sanchez.

By: jccarrollccrider

jccarrollccrider — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:29:25 +0000

Sorry, but the superman thing was completely justified after the 72 yard touchdown run. It was awesome! Panthers fans needed a win like this! Happy to see that the team hasn’t given up even though the season is lost. Okay, I’m done.

Please continue the hating!

By: immafubared

immafubared — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:25:48 +0000

Didn’t Rothlesburger win 14 games as a rookie and win a SB ring in year one or two? He didn’t run very much at all but he won. So all these accolades of how the running QB is changing the game is fine, once they start winning.

RGIII, Cam and Wilson all have one thing in common, they went to teams who were very talented but one QB shy of being good.

If any of them would have gone to Arizona or KC they would be running for their lives instead of the end zone. Makes a huge difference.

The flip flop, the Vikes have one of the most talented teams in football but lack a QB. They would be the Giants equal if they had a QB.

By: steviaquinn

steviaquinn — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:23:34 +0000

winning by 10 points is a blowout? I guess the falcons blew out a lot more teams this years. Also as far as missed calls go, Roddy White caught a two point conversion with would have brought the game within 8 points with 5 minutes left. The inital ruling was a catch, which was overruled by Hoculli. The replay clearly shows he made the catch, even Periera agreed. The replay ref blew the call. To make matter worse, the next drive, the panthers got a first down on a play where the receiver clearly that bobbled the ball, clearly he fumbled it. either way, there was no Consistancy in how this game was officiated. Bring back the replacements refs and fire Ed Hocculli.

By: immafubared

immafubared — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:10:10 +0000

I look at only one statistic as far as QB’s go. How many games have you won. I could care less if this guy or any guy ran for 4000 yards in a season if he led his team to 5-11.
Winning is all its about and unless he is going to run and pass like a maniac every week and take it on his back, then what’s the point. You end up with a lot of numbers that may mean something to you but the only real number, winning isn’t by your name.
One other thing. In college whenever the team was within the 10 yard line, good ol cam never handed it off to the back or passed for a short td, it was cam running it in for all the glory.
If I on your team as a running back and your keeping the ball and calling your number all the time, I’m outta there. Everyone has a job to do and if your doing mine, as a player I’m not a happy camper even if we win.
That’s why a lot of players on his team don’t like the guy.

By: 7ransponder

7ransponder — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:07:19 +0000

People need to be talking about Adrian Peterson more. The fact that he’s doing what he is doing behind such a horrible passing game means his achievement so far this year is even more great considering the injury he’s coming off of. It’s a feat of historic proportions in this league.

If the Vikings beat the odds and end up in the playoffs, you HAVE to give AP the MVP, as he will be the sole reason that happens.

By: xxwhodatxx

xxwhodatxx — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 16:04:45 +0000

Yes because ONE great game silences two years worth of critisim. Cam is good I mean dude was flinging the falcons D around like rag dolls which is always fun to watch. Most people know he’s got skills,its all the other bs(superman while losing, not a team player) that turns people off. He’s still got A LOT of work to do on his game but if he stopped the nonsense he’d get more respect.

By: 3kdad

3kdad — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:52:47 +0000

I would prefer Cam throws for 300 and 3 and wins every game. Not because I’m a Panthers fan, I can’t stand him when he loses.

By: finsphan

finsphan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:24:19 +0000

so now he has 2 wins against teams with a winning record in his career and now all of a sudden I’m supposed to like him. good call, he is a pompous jerk who only care’s about himself. don’t force feed me who I’m supposed to like and not like. if millions of people don’t like him then that says more about him, not the people.

By: taylorwmj

taylorwmj — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 15:03:58 +0000

While I don’t like how the officials will let a play continue instead of calling the play as they see it, I don’t feel they are using instant replay as a crutch, but rather, doing something the NFL does not insist on doing: using replay to get ANY call right, no matter the situation. A play will get automatically reviewed if it’s called a turnover (even if it blatantly isn’t) or a score. However, because the NFL never likes to be aggressive in what they allow to be reviewed, they don’t allow potential scoring or potential turnover plays to be reviewed. Thus, because the officials want to have to outcome be as accurate as possible, they call the game as they need to, as to allow them to verify and get it right.

I look at this situation and I place it solely on the shoulders of the NFL and their methods and uses of the replay system. The whole purpose of the replay system should not be some small “game-within-the-game” strategy coaches have to manage or worry about, but rather about simply just getting the call on the field right. The NFL really needs to realize this and make the review process what it is in college in that EVERY play is being reviewed by someone NOT on the field the moment the play has concluded. This way, games can still progress quickly and on-field officials can call it as they see it and not worry if their potential call/no-call of a play will allow a replay challenge to occur.