Comments on: Tony Dungy explains why Peyton Manning could never be a coach

By: sirpotus

sirpotus — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 12:06:18 +0000

BALONEY!! These players demand minimum 6 figures to play. Those who “excel” at the sport demand 7 & 8 figure salaries. It’s time that the NFL/owners begin to demand a higher level of performance of these individuals. Maybe they need more classroom time, more walk throughs, or whatever. But saying that the football player – who is usually a college/university graduate – cannot ingest and then execute such plays is pure hooey. These men are paid 24x7x365. They need to perform at a higher level or expect to have their salaries lowered commensurate with their mental abilities. You don’t see corporate America employees who are paid 6-figure salaries being considered mentally incapable of ingesting or executing “plays” in their line of work. And these guys who play a “game” call their efforts “work.” If they’re incapable of doing their work to a higher level, then lower their salaries! But God forbid the union allow that!!

I don’t say that it’s possible for players to learn 10+ plays between game days, but between end of season and beginning of season, it is entirely possible. A play or two here and there during the season is achievable as well. It’s time for these multi-millionaires to cowboy-up and earn the salary they demand. Instead of toking, smoking and drinking, they should be working to maintain their skills and jobs. As a corporate America worker, I can assure you I don’t receive the pay they do for roughly 7 to 8-months of work a year. Granted, their careers can end on any Sunday with a devastating injury, but then again, so could mine. And my employer(s) don’t pump my salary to a higher level based on “possible” loss of my ability to perform my career. I’m expected to work 8x5x320-340 a year for 40+ years. I only wish my employer would pay me what the NFL HAS to pay these guys (minimum) for roughly 10-15 years of work. I’d be retired and working as a Wal-Mart greeter.

Dungy gets what he expects – minimum performance from high-priced prima donnas with the mental capacity of a trained seal!

By: 4ever9er

4ever9er — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 04:43:21 +0000

Dungy is correct, most of the great QB’s and other players are just not cut for coaching. That’s why you see very few Hall Of Fame players becoming Head Coaches or coaching at all.
Let’s take the great QBs of the 70′s Bradshaw, Fouts, Griese, Staubach, 80′s Montana, Marino, Kelly, Moon, Elway and 90′s Young, Aikman, Favre.
How many became coaches at all? Joe Montana said it after he retired and so did Ronnie Lott that it wouldn’t be fair to the players that they would coach because as coaches they would always expect those players to perform like them.

By: schlitzy

schlitzy — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:54:43 +0000

I don’t know if he would be a good coach or not, but I’d love to see him try it.

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 00:33:00 +0000

My guess is that we will find out how good a coach he will be as soon as Peyton decides to retire from playing…….I would hire him in a heart beat and I bet that many other teams would as well.

By: nascent22

nascent22 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:57:14 +0000

Rajbais: Designing plays is not the same thing as getting people to run them (or to get the raw talent to run them right)….Peyton can certainly do the former…but Tony is saying he can’t do the latter.

By: TD Hawk

TD Hawk — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:00:33 +0000

I bet it was fun being Eli growing up. NOT!

By: rajbais

rajbais — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:18:05 +0000

Can he design plays???

Answer that and you’ll know the real answer to the question.

By: raider2124

raider2124 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:14:25 +0000

Why is it they have never said those comments about Michael Vick or Vince young? Just asking

By: jmrandal17112012

jmrandal17112012 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:10:57 +0000

It was also funny, because last year when Manning was questioned about coaching, his remark was that as a coach (over Caldwell lol) he had a losing record.

By: jmrandal17112012

jmrandal17112012 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:09:30 +0000

As a former athlete I have always stated that forever what reason, sometimes the better the athlete, the worse the coach. Some of the best coaches I have been around, known, and observed, were actually not the best athlete, or the best at their sport. Dungy’s explanation makes sense. I used to joke that sometimes it was because it they were not the best athlete they were spent more time on the bench, thus, observing. Being in the game is different than observing the game. It is easier to observe what does and does not work. The perception of the game is different from the sideline.

By: osubuckfan

osubuckfan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:56:18 +0000

“ … and he doesn’t realize, everybody’s not Peyton Manning,” Dungy said.

Before I read this, I thought Manning was fairly intelligent, but if after 14 years in the league he hasn’t “realized” this, then, yeah, he probably won’t make a good coach.

Somehow I think he’ll have better things to do, anyway.

By: shadeforourbattle

shadeforourbattle — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:51:51 +0000

First, Tony Dungy took the team with the worst history in the NFL and made them into a perennial winner, creating and leading one of the greatest and most dominant defenses in the history of the NFL. Tony Dungy has proven that he can win without Peyton Manning at Quaterback. Tony Dungy won with Trent Dilfer and Shaun King at QB and both of those QB’s are average at best. Heck, Tony Dungy’s team came very close to the Superbowl when they lost to the Rams in the NFC Championship Game and that team was Quaterbacked by Shaun King. Please, think before you post.

Second, Peyton Manning is not in the conversation for greatest quaterback in the history of the NFL. He is nowhere close to the conversation of Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, Tom Brady, etc. Until he wins multiple Super Bowls he is only slightly above Dan Marino and Dan Fouts on the list of great QB’s. QB’s and Head Coaches are judged by only one thing, Championships. Peyton Manning has a led his team to as many Championships as Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Broadway Joe, Phil Simms, Jeff Hostetler, Jim McMahhon, Mark Rypien, Joe Theisman, etc, etc. Stats are for losers. Greatness is judged by how many Championships you have.

By: bgrab1

bgrab1 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:31:52 +0000

Who is Tony Dungy and when does he get inducted into the Hall of Fame?

By: manningbowl88

manningbowl88 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:13:12 +0000

well this statement shows why peyton is a 1st ballot and everyone else wont even come close..

By: ggreen7

ggreen7 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 20:02:38 +0000

Dungy should have also mentioned that he could never coach without Peyton Manning at QB.

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:53:43 +0000

If Manning became head coach, he would eventually be fired. He wouldn’t have the same luxury as a player in that a coach would never survive a sub-500 playoff record! So much for the idea that Manning WAS the Colts. They seem to be doing pretty well without him this year!

By: packmanfan

packmanfan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:51:18 +0000

From what Tony says, it seems like Peyton would be a great motivator.
And what is wrong with that?

By: golonger

golonger — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:49:25 +0000

Nothing would be sweeter than to see the Colts beat the Broncos in the playoffs!

By: thetruth845

thetruth845 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:37:42 +0000

I don’t see why he couldn’t coach. The GM of that team may need to adopt an unorthodox philosophy by drafting the smarter offensive players over the more talented but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Passing on more talented offensive players by trading down would produce more picks and tons of salary cap space to load up on great defensive players.

By: bobby927

bobby927 — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:08:54 +0000

Prediction: Broncos one and done in the playoffs.

By: wikidpissah

wikidpissah — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:03:42 +0000

heydiddlediddlerayriceupthemiddle says: Dec 10, 2012 11:12 AM

Only Peyton Manning can beat Peyton Manning!
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And more often than not, he does in the playoffs.

By: tb49er

tb49er — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:58:51 +0000

Peyton couldn’t be a football coach because he couldn’t handle any of the other day to day activities. Peyton is extremely intelligent when it comes to football, but that’s all he knows. He is basically an idiot savant when it comes to basic life skills. For a little insight, read a Nov. 22, 1999 Sports Illustrated article titled, Throughbred.

By: granadafan

granadafan — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:46:26 +0000

These comments by Dungy support previous assertions that Peyton took every single practice snap and every single snap in games thus leaving backup QBs woefully unprepared. Peyton was like Favre in refusal to mentor or talk to his backups.

By: jtbndy

jtbndy — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:40:00 +0000

I would think Peyton would have to deal with those same issues as a player and he seems to be doing just fine right now.

By: CKL

CKL — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:39:03 +0000

8man says:
Dec 10, 2012 1:02 PM
I wish the QB for my favorite team worked that hard. But he’s too busy pumping out kids with some super model.
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I hope that’s a joke.

By: ishudbgm

ishudbgm — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:37:44 +0000

John Fox seems like a puppet to me but Tony Dungy really does seem like the only Coach Peyton has ever been completely comfortable with and very trusting with. Wish I could of sat in on there conversations, probably would of seemed like a Physics class for advanced learners!!!

By: 16x8equal49ers

16x8equal49ers — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:36:40 +0000

Same thing w/ MJ in basketball if he had tried to coach. At practice they both would say “here gimme the ball I’ll show ya (do I have to do everything?) how.”

By: pongonfl

pongonfl — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:32:37 +0000

LOL
A self serving estimate if ever there was one.
You would think he was asked…
“where you necessarily in Indy?”
Cause that is what he answered. If he thinks that Payton couldn’t adjust to the different requirements of coaching vs playing then he really has trouble thinking things through. the guy wants to win, he will do what it takes to win.
He would certainly be a hard assed head coach. But just because Dungy wasnt, doenst mean that hard assed head coaches cannot be very very succesful

By: tebowpraystobrady

tebowpraystobrady — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:30:27 +0000

It’s probably for the best…

He’d then have to spend the next 20 years of his life getting owned by Tom Brady all over again once Brady decides to coach. Going through that in his playing career was enough.

I’ll save you the trouble of saying “oh ya he’ll just spy on manning’s practices and that’s how he would win”…blah blah.

By: mybrunoblog

mybrunoblog — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 18:26:25 +0000

I have a ton of respect for Tony Dungy. By all accounts he a great human being and a nice guy.
However, Dungy is one of the more overrated coaches of the last 25 years. Dungy should stick to analyzing games and forget about what Peyton Manning will do five years from now.