Comments on: Tagliabue’s ruling suggests Saints were targeting Peyton Manning, too

By: cowboycjn

cowboycjn — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 13:35:38 +0000

Power point slides??? thats like writing anything you want on paper. How does that saying go, “Paper don’t refuse ink”. I build power point slides everyday teaching in college for class – you enter and type whatever you want on the slide, that doesn’t mean it happen. So whats the point he wrote a bunch of captions on slides- and that’s all they have for evidence????
So if I took a picture of Godell and placed it on a slide then typed a caption that this man is wanted in all 50 states for a terrible crime – now thats proof – better get real here.

By: tatvin

tatvin — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:47:25 +0000

Karma is how the Saints totally SUCK this year

By: promickey

promickey — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:22:31 +0000

So the Tagliabue ruling confirms that the testimony provided by Gregg Williams is not credible.

By: justafanofitall

justafanofitall — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 00:08:36 +0000

So the question: Who received money for hurting these two QB’s? They should be suspended…any words from Vilma on this one. Should be able to check Saints bank accounts during the time in question.

By: dcmaxx

dcmaxx — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:53:23 +0000

So, I guess all of you that are outraged by the Saints wouldn’t mind an investigation going back the last 3 years of your organization’s behind the scenes deals, locker room talk, coach’s pre game speeches, etc? I’m sure all of your teams are made up of choir boys.

By: kylexitron

kylexitron — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:51:03 +0000

The saints were trying to tackle the QB they played in the superbowl? What horrible human beings!

Get over it already.

By: goldrush36

goldrush36 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:17:18 +0000

Just imagine the outrage if it were Brady. They would be pushing for criminal charges and life sentences.. LOL okay in all seriousness though I think the player suspensions may have been a bit severe but everything else was fair. Now on the other hand we have NO player punishment and to me that is much worse than too much punishment and I’m not buying the do whatever coach says BS. Plenty of people have integrity to make their own decisions. Obviously Darnell Dockett disobeyed an order to intentionally let the jets score. He may be mouthy at times but he plays clean and obviously has some sense to not always follow blindly. Its just unfortunate he lacked the sense to not spit in ones face when disagreeing with that order but hell as much as I hate him, I give him props

By: corvusrex96

corvusrex96 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:15:41 +0000

“You mean to tell me that the Saints were trying take me out of the game during the SB loss ??” Cue the Peyton Manning face

By: mrpowers88

mrpowers88 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:06:43 +0000

How bad would this have been if the Saints actually had players that were good enough to actually carry out their intentions?

The only reason Peyton didn’t get hit was because he’s already programmed to get the ball out so he doesn’t get hit within the confines of the play- therefore, he wouldn’t get hit after the play, which is when the Saints did their damage.

The only difference between the Saints defense that season and the defense in any other season is that Darren Sharper was a ballhawk in the secondary forcing turnovers. Outside of that, they just weren’t that good.

By: booker1974

booker1974 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:05:58 +0000

So the Saints were trying to put licks on the opposing quarterbacks they faced in the playoffs? Get out of here!!

Seriously, people need to actually read Tagliabue’s full report, and Williams has never made any attempt to hide his desire to get after opposing quarterbacks. Tough talk happens in locker rooms across the league, the Saints were not unique in this regard. The key thing, to which Tagliabue commented, is that the on field play was not over the line or indicative of anything out of the ordinary. Locker room bravado did not equal dirty play on the field.

By: nolajoe

nolajoe — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:51:09 +0000

How many other teams do the same thing? This could be common practice to fire up a defense. It’s clearly an exaggeration to make a point. This really proves nothing at all about the Saints until there is evidence to show that no other team uses this type of motivational technique.

By: thejuddstir

thejuddstir — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:49:38 +0000

Tags may have overturned the suspensions (and who really cares now, none of the players are playing or contributing to their teams) but he also said they were guilty. Lessening the suspension has nothing to do with the guilt factor.

By: bathroomben7

bathroomben7 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:46:13 +0000

Absolutely disgusting. What a disgrace to the NFL, football, and the fans that have supported the Saints. The entire team should have been suspended for a year.

By: dcmaxx

dcmaxx — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:44:55 +0000

Some of you are really sissies. The Saints didn’t lay a hand on Peyton Manning and hit Kurt Warner fair and square. As far as the high-low there shouldn’t be one Viking fan still crying about that since their hometown boys just did the same thing last week to Cutler not to mention the blindside hit Allen left on the OL that put him on IR a couple of weeks ago. Some of you need to get over yourselves.

By: antalicus

antalicus — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:28:15 +0000

Wow, that much evidence and those fools tried to deny it?

By: FinFan68

FinFan68 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:25:46 +0000

Isn’t it odd that the same evidence existed for bounties on Favre, Warner and Manning but the only one never mentioned was Manning. He’s also the only one still in the league and still paying dues to the union that is supporting the players involved. What would happen if Manning decided to sue? That could be devastating to the NFLPA and ultimately the league.

By: cvieira18

cvieira18 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:21:19 +0000

Sean Payton’s favorite phrase = Do your Job!!!

How ironic that he turned a blind eye. Wouldn’t that be the total opposite of do your job?

By: ravensgrl

ravensgrl — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:04:27 +0000

I see the evidence pointing to wanting to hurt the QBs, but where the evidence that offering $$ occurred???

By: tommysaint1

tommysaint1 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:00:38 +0000

Sorry to all the NFL players. Text book tackling and locker room talks are all banned.

No one tried to injure anyone. the only QBs that were injured were both 40 years old and probably shouldn’t be playing with a bunch of 20 year old guys.

this is classic Gwill and his motivation tactics.

come on NFL, you loss but you can come back with better than locker room trash talk right?

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 22:00:31 +0000

gochargersgo

We did nothing wrong. Oh, by the way I hope you get good seats when you’re watching you team in LA

By: bearnmind

bearnmind — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:47:24 +0000

If you want to see a bounty program in action, look no further than the Lion’s Suh who deliberately tries to injure players on national TV and then tell me how much Goodell cares about player safety. Glass houses…

By: bearnmind

bearnmind — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:45:13 +0000

Maybe everyone should read the WHOLE decision instead of making comments based on one paragraph. Context matters people. Amazingly, the decision also says Payton didn’t participate in a bounty program but was suspended for not doing a better job of stopping Williams after finding out about it. But somehow that’s been translated into Payton admitted to a Bounty program. So yes, context matters.

By: chattanola

chattanola — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:43:17 +0000

There are certain themes common to pre-game pep talks across the league. It’s part of the defense’s role to rattle, harass, intimidate and sack the opposing QB. Every QB is targeted every game.

If a coach’s pregame speech to the D contains “kill the quarterback”, does anyone take that in a literal sense? No. Words and images are used to jack up the men because football is a violent and physical game.

Why assume that this was language used only by the Saints? Going after the weapons of the opposing team is part of the tradition and history of football.

By: dukemarc

dukemarc — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:39:56 +0000

I wonder how Breesus would feel if his ugly mug showed up in a PowerPoint presentation like that?

I’d bet he’d want an explanation.

By: bgrab1

bgrab1 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:36:55 +0000

By the way Morons it is every defensive coordinators plan in the league to get to the QB and rattle him. It is football for Gods sakes. There is no eveidence of any foul play of the league would have proved it and upheld the suspensions. Its time for the court to get involved in this mess because I have had it with the unfounded mud slinging at the Saints. Judge B it is your turn to make a ruling.

By: daknight93

daknight93 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:32:31 +0000

Its just aggressive lockerroom talk..relax folks this is not serious cause all 31 teams talk same way stop being so sensitive this is football and not soccer

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:30:59 +0000

vikesfansteve
Your team lost. Just like it did against Miami, Oak, KC, and Pitt in the superbowl. And, just like you lost in the NFC championship games when you couldn’t close the deal against Atlanta or NY Giants, and not to forget the Cowboys when Roger and Drew Pearson beat you. You turned the ball over five times that sunday that’s why you lost, so get over it.

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:26:01 +0000

bigjdve
or there’s no evidence and that’s why the league doesn’t want it to come out.

By: goodellsadouche

goodellsadouche — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:25:34 +0000

Maybe those 5 turnovers cost y’all the game.

By: dcviking

dcviking — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:18:43 +0000

Injure the other team’s QB — that’s our goal.

Clearly all members of the Saints defense during this time frame should be exempted from ever filing suit against the NFL as it pertains to safety or dangerous play…after all, they all accepted this mantra as their creedo for that the playoffs that year.

It clearly illustrates they had no regard for player safety, and thus no regard for their long term well-being so being accorded to them.