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Brees says Goodell has “little or no credibility” with players

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On Tuesday, former Commissioner Paul Tagliabue said in subtle-yet-unmistakable fashion that current Commissioner Roger Goodell needs to take a page from the Andy Reid playbook and do a better job.

On Wednesday, Saints quarterback Drew Brees was slightly more direct.

According to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, Brees said that Goodell has “little to no credibility” with players right now.  A member of the NFLPA executive committee, Brees also believes that the decision to involve Tagliabue was aimed at giving the league an escape hatch.  Brees suggested that the outcome was “staged,” with the league’s overriding question being, “How do we get out of this mess?”

Brees also threw stones at the two key witnesses who testified that Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered a $10,000 bounty on Brett Favre before the 2009 NFC title game:  former assistant coach Mike Cerullo and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.  Brees described them as “two guys who were fired from here because they didn’t fit the mold,” and Brees questioned where they are “mentally.”

It’s not the first time Brees has called out Goodell.  Before the season, Brees said that no one trusts Goodell.  Brees later said his comments were blown out of proportion.  More recently, Brees has called the entire bounty case a sham.

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89 Responses to “Brees says Goodell has “little or no credibility” with players”
  1. Hunter Pence's Eyes says: Dec 12, 2012 5:53 PM

    Tell us how you really feel, Drew.

  2. justafanofitall says: Dec 12, 2012 5:58 PM

    There was nothing in previous articles about Tagliabue’s verdict that says Vilma was wrongly charged. It stated that there was evidence to his wrong doing but dropped the suspension to try and patch things up. There was a bounty on players Brees, you know it, own up to it. People profited from it. The league should of checked bank accounts for all the years of the bounty and fined or suspended those who profited from it. There is no place in sports for people who want to hurt other players to win a game and profit from it.

  3. howiefeltersnatch says: Dec 12, 2012 6:01 PM

    Brees is quickly becoming my favorite non-Browns player. It must suck having one of the guys who is the face of your league rip you on a regular basis.

  4. pftjunkie says: Dec 12, 2012 6:02 PM

    I am of the opposite opinion as the previous commenter, in that I have completely lost any respect I had for Drew Brees within the past year, between his whining and holding out for his contract and his ill-advised comments on the bounty scandal. The league may not have done their homework on what the appropriate punishments were for players versus coaches, but they did get it right in that the players and coaches did what they were accusing them of, and yet Brees acts like noone did anything wrong in spite of the evidence, and the initial ruling and the subsequent appeal ruling.

  5. cometkazie says: Dec 12, 2012 6:03 PM

    It gets funner and funner.

    The suits aren’t credible?

  6. mcwest1 says: Dec 12, 2012 6:07 PM

    “Brees also believes that the decision to involve Tagliabue was aimed at giving the league an escape hatch. Brees suggested that the outcome was “staged,” with the league’s overriding question being, “How do we get out of this mess?”

    Sounds like Brees is rushing to judgement without any evidence.

  7. formuk says: Dec 12, 2012 6:08 PM

    CAN’T WAIT for Goodell to arrive in New Orleans for the Superbowl.

  8. riverhorsey says: Dec 12, 2012 6:11 PM

    Maybe they should make Vilma the Comish.

  9. ubummer says: Dec 12, 2012 6:11 PM

    The fundamental difference between Goodell/owners and a player like Brees is that the players don’t have a reason to care about the long term health of the league as a whole. The players focus is what they can get for themselves as individuals in the short time that they are actually players. That difference in focus contaminates Brees viewpoint and his comments.

  10. harrisonhits2 says: Dec 12, 2012 6:12 PM

    Just because the bounties were blamed on the coaches and the players let off the hook, doesn’t mean the Saints players weren’t guilty of putting bounties on other players and intentionally trying to injure them and ruin their careers.

    I am disgusted by the entire Saints organization and the players are lucky the league mishandled this and they were able to get away with the old “I was only following orders” defense. Which I cannot remember any cases in a long, long time that defense was accepted by a court.

  11. udub says: Dec 12, 2012 6:14 PM

    Drew Brees has been totally annoying through out this whole ‘Bounty Gate’

    He acts like Goodell threw a dart at a list of teams and decide to invent this whole thing to punish the Saints. Punish them for what? I don’t know, but the league is out to get them.

    Even after the dropping of the player suspensions, the organization and coaching staff punishments remain. Why? Because they were involved in a bounty system!

    Enough Drew. If you get caught going 25 over the speed limit and get out of the ticket, guess what? You were still speeding.

  12. billinlouisiana says: Dec 12, 2012 6:17 PM

    I really don’t care what Brees says. Maybe if he spent more time worrying about his play on the field instead of griping about the league offices he might have won a few more games this year instead of throwing pick 6’s. Brees and the rest of the NFLPA had there chance to stand firm last summer during the CBA negotiations and try to limit the commissioners power but they didn’t so now he needs to just live with it.
    BTW, this is coming from a Saints fan for the last 30 years.

  13. uglynora says: Dec 12, 2012 6:19 PM

    Anyone who looks at the merits of this case would have to agree with Drew on this. Roger Goodell has been drunk on his power and in a matter of only a few short years, he has taken the game of football and turned it on it’s head. The big hits that made the sport popular have been replaced by arbitrary penalties that make the game no fun to watch. I only hope he’s gone before the damage is too great to remedy.

  14. cruuuzcontrol says: Dec 12, 2012 6:19 PM

    The victim card got your team real far this year, eh Drew? Get over it… The Saints had a bounty program and the league did a poor job of proving its existence to the point that it could justify suspending players based on their conduct complicit with the program. This is one of those cases where some would have you believe that “not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt” is the equivalent of “innocent”.

  15. azarkhan says: Dec 12, 2012 6:26 PM

    Greg Williams was fired? I thought he resigned so he could join his friend Jeff Fisher in St. Louis.

  16. chb74 says: Dec 12, 2012 6:26 PM

    The thing that really irks me about Brees is not that he feels wronged, but that he keeps arrogantly assuming EVERYONE in the football universe feels every bit as outraged as he does. He needs to speak only for himself—and, for that matter, speak a whole lot less. Not everyone is as sorry for the Saints as they seem to feel for themselves. While Goodell’s method was flawed, it seems increasingly clear to me that there was wrongdoing on the part of the players, and I for one don’t mind seeing them actually suffer consequences.

    Honestly, it sounds like Drew’s over sized ego is just bruised by the realization that the team was *this* heavily dependent on their coach to succeed. If Peyton Manning and the Colts reached the Super Bowl the year they were “led” by the barely alive Jim Caldwell, Brees should have been able to squeeze out a nine win season despite Sean Payton ‘s absence if he’s even half the player and leader he views himself to be.

  17. contraisloosebuthole says: Dec 12, 2012 6:32 PM

    It is funny how Brees and Vilma are acting as if there was no wrong doing. From what I read Tagliabue decided that a bounty system did occur and that they were guilty but is vacating the discipline in an effort to move on. So let me get this straight…the Saints did cheat. Okay I got it!

  18. thingamajig says: Dec 12, 2012 6:43 PM

    “Brees also believes that the decision to involve Tagliabue was aimed at giving the league an escape hatch. Brees suggested that the outcome was “staged,” with the league’s overriding question being, “How do we get out of this mess?”

    Hey Drew, this time I’d like an explanation.

  19. glac1 says: Dec 12, 2012 6:59 PM

    Bree’s needs to remember that Roger is employed by the owners and not the players. If he doesn’t like that he can find another profession.

  20. mrpowers88 says: Dec 12, 2012 7:03 PM

    It’s becoming more apparent that Drew Brees is aiming for a position in union leadership when his playing days are over.

  21. mrbigass says: Dec 12, 2012 7:04 PM

    So if this is a sham, how come Sean Payton has been so quiet?

    He had a chance to shut it down and didn’t do it.

  22. chattanola says: Dec 12, 2012 7:08 PM

    I agree with Brees when he says that Tags was brought in to get the league out of this mess because, he’s right–that’s exactly what PTag did and did well.

    And BTW fanofitall said “The league should of checked bank accounts for all the years of the bounty”. IIRC, Jonathan Vilma provided his bank account info to the courts. It’s actually part of his defense.

  23. britkei says: Dec 12, 2012 7:19 PM

    Why doesn’t Brees just let it die. Goodell is trying to clean up a league full of players that can’t be trusted as adults. Just as the players don’t care about the long term health of the league goodell doesn’t care about individual players and he understands the collateral damage done when trying to clean it up.

  24. joe2jerry says: Dec 12, 2012 7:22 PM

    What would you say if you we’re caught by your boss taking money to do something against company policy? Vilma did what he could to keep from losing huge game checks. Williams may have been the ringleader but if those around him, both players and coaches, didn’t agree he would’ve been fired and turned in to the NFL and nflpa

  25. andrewfbrowne says: Dec 12, 2012 7:29 PM

    You forgot to add in that Brees also said the only reason retired players did not have any money was because of bad business decisions. I cannot stand this guy.

  26. 69finfan says: Dec 12, 2012 7:36 PM

    IMO and many others outside of New Orleans Drew Brees has lost any credibility that he had with his constant whining and bashing of RG and the NFL. I really wish there were some way the NFL could suspend him for the remainder of the season for conduct detrimental.

  27. rick2248 says: Dec 12, 2012 7:40 PM

    Brees is the MAN.

  28. cubsin2049 says: Dec 12, 2012 7:49 PM

    Brees — you’re next team should be the 49ers. Then you and your coach can whine about anything and everything every day! See you in SF!!!

  29. dlmcc1010 says: Dec 12, 2012 7:50 PM

    Im not a huge fan of the commissioner and all the fines for hard hits. but theres no question Drew Brees has been annoying through this whole thing. The commissioner works for the owners. Not the players. I have a hard time thinking he sat in his office and decided he would just pick on the Saints and start suspending people. Brees needs to understand that this league has a ton of problems with off field behavior, and with all the corporate money coming into the NFL, it needs a commissioner who isnt exactly going to back down from the players.

    I dont know what to make of the bounty thing. I just know Drew Brees needs to focus more on trying to get his team to improve rather than complaining to the media.

  30. tnyfg says: Dec 12, 2012 7:53 PM

    Mr Brees, we get it you hate your boss.
    More football, less talking, please!

  31. dvdman123 says: Dec 12, 2012 8:12 PM

    I believe the NFL commish is NOT considered ANY player’s “BOSS”. The owner of the team a player plays for is considered their boss. Anyway love him or hate him Drew doesn’t pull any punches and I commend him for that.

  32. makimaguro says: Dec 12, 2012 8:42 PM

    Drew Brees is a marketing nightmare. Right now there are 32 owners just cringing every time he opens his trap. Brees: In case you haven’t figured it out yet you are bashing your milk cow and all 32 of it’s teets.

  33. yousuxxors says: Dec 12, 2012 8:51 PM

    Hey saints fans …. What exactly were the coaches trying to hide if they were doing nothing wrong? Thats why the league came down so hard because they were told to stop and didnt. Just because you were told doesnt mean it was right … Only one player was proved totally innocent. Paul said the system was there but didnt follow precedents.

  34. billbrasky72 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:04 PM

    Where did my last post go???? Anyhow, if Goodell has little credibility with the players, Brees has ZERO credibility with the fans. Nobody whines or cries victim more than Drew Brees. Drop this “man keeping me down” attitude and try to keep your dignity intact. Look at class acts like Manning or Brady – zero complaints. They just do their job and do it well. Drew, you can’t even do your job well anymore.

  35. yourignorancespreads says: Dec 12, 2012 9:06 PM

    Brees. Keep it up. Some of the greatest people, historians, and legends. Are those who stand up and fight against evil and GOODELL is the pure evil to the sport of football. Stand up and fight to such such a biasand corrupted NFL and there officials

  36. egomaniac247 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:10 PM

    At this point in this circus I’m waiting for Vince Mcmahon to come out and appoint John Laurenitis as the new commish.

    PEOPLE POWER!

  37. yizudien says: Dec 12, 2012 9:16 PM

    Not that drew would ever read any of this, but I thought the finding was there is evidence of wrong doing by the saints; the punishment was too harsh.

    I thought that roger was fair in his punishment, they continue to put more and more constraints on the defense for rough play, hard hits, anything that may remotely injury a guy.

    My question to drew, who is a person whom has benefited from these new rules, what good is all that if a bounty program can exist and go unpunished. I personally think hes putting up a lot of smoke so people do not invalidate his super bowl. People who love football would agree the Saints that year had a super bowl caliber offense, but their defense was weak. It had to resort to cheap play and intentionally trying to injury players. Each play off game that year they had 10 + defensive players fined the following day for late or personal foul hits.

  38. mnvikes7897 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:16 PM

    And Brees has no credibility with many people who think the New Orleans scum bags are and were a bunch of fake champions who have no conscience. Used to like him as a QB and now he can loose his ring in either Williams Vilmas or Peyton’s a$$.

  39. raymondtx says: Dec 12, 2012 9:17 PM

    Does this guy ever shut his trap? I know he comes across as an all American golden boy….but, there is something about that guy that rubs me the wrong way. And, he is a fellow Texan not far from here.

  40. jcdavey2011 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:18 PM

    brees is a punk

  41. chattanola says: Dec 12, 2012 9:22 PM

    The amount of Drew Brees hate on this comment thread astounds me. Is he not entitled to stand up for his team mates? Can he not be a defender of the players side of this fiasco?

    What cracks me up about some of you haters is that you convicted and condemned the players involved in the bounty scandal based on what Goodell (and now Tagliabue) had asserted from day one.

    Looks like Goodell was successful in demonizing a handful of players based on shoddy investigating and thereby making them the poster child for doing something that’s practiced league wide. It’s called defamation of character and looks like Goodell got a lot of fish in his net.

    Brees is a good man. Now, all of the sudden, you have no respect for him? Because he spoke his mind? Unless some of you are just league trolls…

  42. patfanken says: Dec 12, 2012 9:39 PM

    I’ve never been a fan of Goodell for obvious reasons, but Brees just needs to shut up.

    The Saints had a bounty system, and had 3 years to stop it. Instead they institutionally tried to stifle the investigation.

    The NFL went out of their way NOT to reach this result. The Saints had been the league’s poster child of how an NFL franchise can galvanize a city for good, after Katrina. The were a PR man’s wet dream.

    The league would have been literally forced to do what it did. So Brees’s proclamations of innocence doesn’t have much merit.

    I can see Tag’s wiping out the suspensions for the players. The program and obstruction were the fault of the coaches and management. The players probably shouldn’t have been suspended in the first place.

  43. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:43 PM

    FROM THE SUPER BOWL TO SUSPENDED

    In mid-March 2012, Sean Payton was walking briskly through the hallway on the sixth floor of the NFL’s midtown Manhattan headquarters at 345 Park Avenue. He was taking a quick break from a meeting with Commissioner Roger Goodell that was the equivalent to a student being called into the principal’s office.

  44. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:43 PM

    Payton had a card key in his left hand as he passed through a reception area on his way to a bathroom just beyond locked glass double doors. He stopped for a moment to chat with a familiar face and kept on going. The league had moved a few blocks uptown nine months earlier from its offices at 280 Park Avenue, where it did business during most of Paul Tagliabue’s time as commissioner and Goodell’s first five years.

  45. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:43 PM

    The look on Payton’s face didn’t lie. He was worried.

    “Has Roger informed you of the discipline?” he was asked.

    “No,” he said.

  46. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:43 PM

    He swiped the key, went through the glass doors, and two minutes later was passing back through the reception area on his return to Goodell’s office. He was meeting with his professional executioner. It was barely two years since Goodell had handed him the Vince Lombardi Trophy after the New Orleans Saints’ feel-good Super Bowl victory over the favored Indianapolis Colts. Now Goodell was giving Payton one last chance to plead his case for leniency before he would hand out the first suspension of a head coach in the NFL’s ninety-two-year history.

  47. onbucky96 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:43 PM

    That’s okay, I have little or no respect for Drew Brees after doing those Pepsi ads with the boy banders.

  48. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:44 PM

    The reception area in the league’s new office was state of the art. Payton glanced at the immense high-definition flat screen television with square panels. The picture covered almost an entire wall. Naturally, it was tuned to the NFL Network. If Payton had taken a seat on one of the leather couches and kept Goodell waiting just a few minutes, he could have seen himself as the lead story on the network’s news updates. It was the second meeting between Payton and Goodell after an NFL investigation had uncovered one of the biggest scandals in league history. The Saints had been accused of setting bounties on opposing players for the previous three seasons, including their dramatic Super Bowl season of 2009. Payton hadn’t been part of the bounty meetings, which the league said was run by defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and funded by Williams and the players, but he had gotten himself into deep trouble by not putting an end to it when he was told the league was investigating in 2010 and then not being forthcoming about what he knew in his initial meeting with the league investigators in New York in 2012. Goodell demands honest answers to questions.

  49. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:44 PM

    Payton must have felt that the Lombardi Trophy, which he said he slept with and joked that he slobbered on the night the Saints won the championship, made him bulletproof. The Saints were aware the league was investigating them shortly after the Super Bowl, but Payton was intoxicated with success and the league felt he ignored its warnings. If Payton could not control Williams, he could have fired him. His self-importance came through in the first meeting in New York, when he spoke with league security. He was spitting smokeless tobacco into a Styrofoam cup. It’s a good thing Goodell was not present for that portion of the meeting or he would have tossed him out of the office and personally escorted him onto Park Avenue.

  50. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:44 PM

    No one person is bigger than the league. It doesn’t matter if you are at the head of the class in the next generation of great coaches, already have won a Super Bowl ring, make $5 million a year, and helped in the healing process of one of the great natural disasters in the country’s history. The NFL will not let its $9 billion a year business be brought down by a group of renegade coaches and players.

  51. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:44 PM

    Payton had become one of the faces of the league after the Saints did their part in helping the city of New Orleans get over the devastation of Hurricane Katrina that ravaged the Big Easy in 2005 one year before he arrived. Until then, Payton was known for being a scab quarterback for the Chicago Bears during the twenty-four-day players strike in 1987, being close friends with Jon Gruden, and doing good work as the Giants’ offensive coordinator when they went to the Super Bowl in 2000 but then being run out of New York by Jim Fassel two years later when he was demoted from his play-calling duties. If it’s true that things eventually work out for the best if you keep working hard, leaving New York and going to work for Bill Parcells when he was hired as the Dallas head coach in 2003 was the best thing that ever happened to Payton. They had no connection other than that they had worked for the Giants at different times. They hit it off right away.

  52. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:45 PM

    Payton had his hand in everything related to his team, and the league found it hard to believe that something that was so blatantly in violation of NFL rules was going on in his building and he had no idea. Paul Hicks, the league’s executive vice president of communications and public affairs, kept a copy of Payton’s book Home Team: Coaching the Saints and New Orleans Back to Life, which Payton wrote after the Saints won the Super Bowl. Hicks and one of his staff members went through it and took notes on passages where Payton discusses his attention to detail. Hicks then reported back to Goodell, who had not read the book. The commissioner asked several sources he trusted how likely it was that Payton was in the dark while Williams and the defensive players were setting bounties on some of the biggest names in the league. The conclusion was that Payton had to have known what Williams was doing even if he was trying to distance himself from Williams, because nothing happened with his football team without his knowledge.

  53. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:45 PM

    Payton had requested this second meeting with Goodell. They had spoken on the phone several times. Payton asked if they could get together while Goodell was in Florida attending committee meetings in advance of the league meetings later that month in Palm Beach. But Goodell was going to be tied up with the committees, so Payton arranged to come back to New York the next week. Saints owner Tom Benson was also in the league offices that day but met separately with Goodell. Payton was casually dressed for the occasion in a sport shirt and a pair of slacks. After returning from the men’s room, he settled back into Goodell’s office for another thirty minutes of trying to explain himself. The commissioner was beyond angry. He is a man of principle, an admirable trait passed down from his father. His mission was to make the game safer for the players, and here was Williams running a system that encouraged players to hurt other players; players committing unforgivable player-on-player crimes when they were supposed to be a fraternity that played hard but clean; and the head coach, a Super Bowl winner, not stopping it. Other than players or coaches betting on games, which would destroy the integrity of the league, it doesn’t get much worse than players trying to hurt one another in a game that is already ultraviolent. It was now clear to the league that the Saints’ strategy was to pin the blame on Williams, who had left after the 2011 season.

  54. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:45 PM

    Payton couldn’t have felt good as he looked around Goodell’s corner office, which overlooked Fifty-First Street and Park Avenue. It’s a big office, not as big as the one he had at 280 Park but plenty large enough to have a desk on one side and a conference table on the other side. There is a big screen television to the right of a desk surrounded by photos and books. There’s a collection of footballs. On one wall is a copy of the Congressional Record. Goodell’s father, Charles Goodell, was a congressman from upstate New York when he was appointed by Governor Nelson Rockefeller to fill a U.S. Senate seat after the assassination of Robert Kennedy. He took office two months after Kennedy’s death. Goodell was a Republican. Kennedy was a Democrat. As Kennedy’s replacement, Goodell angered President Richard Nixon and Vice President Spiro Agnew with his opposition to the Vietnam War. The Congressional Record means a lot to Roger Goodell. It contained the original copy of Bill S. 3000, sponsored by Charles Goodell, which proposed an end to the funding for the war.

  55. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:45 PM

    As Payton sat at the big conference table, he could catch a glance over his shoulder at the reason Goodell was so infuriated. It was the reason he should not count on leniency. Mounted on the wall was a metal replica of the NFL shield. Goodell is consumed with his responsibility to protect the shield. The Saints and Payton had done huge damage to the shield. Any degree of contrition Payton would show would be measured against his motive: Was he saying things Goodell wanted to hear so that Goodell would go easier on him when he decided on the discipline?

  56. Mr. Wright 212 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:45 PM

    The culture of the team had gone way off course. The Saints thought they were above NFL rules and were trying to set their own. They were sticking it in the league’s face after being told in 2010 that NFL investigators were on to them. Everything that happens with a football team is the responsibility of the head coach. That goes for everything from calling for the game-changing onside kick to start the second half of the Super Bowl against the Colts that had Parcells raving about Payton’s “balls” to being aware that your defensive coordinator has set up a system to reward players $1,000 for “cart-offs,” when the opposing player is carried off the field, and $1,500 for “knockouts,” which sidelined them for the rest of the game. The league’s investigation revealed the pool might have reached $50,000 or more at its height during the 2009 playoffs and that linebacker Jonathan Vilma in 2009 offered $10,000 to anybody who knocked Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner out of the NFC divisional round or Vikings quarterback Brett Favre out of the NFC championship game. Warner was crushed after throwing an interception as he ran to make the tackle early in the second quarter but remained in the game through three quarters, when the Cardinals trailed by 35 points. Favre took every snap but absorbed several vicious hits. The Saints won the game in overtime.

  57. hendeeze says: Dec 12, 2012 9:47 PM

    the fact are

    1: there was a bounty system
    2: saints players and coaches were involved
    3: the only one not involved was Fujita
    4: the saints deserve everything that was given to them

  58. aintasinner says: Dec 12, 2012 9:51 PM

    Let me get this straight, some of you are using the argument that because the Saints coaches didn’t speak up and defend themselves they must be guilty but in the next breath you criticize Brees, a team leader, for speaking up in defense of his team. Kind of hypocritical isn’t it? Let’s see the transcripts before you all assume that Drew’s claims of innocence are just empty claims. The NFL has changed what they were punishing the Saints for every time one of their leaked pieces of evidence has been discredited. And then those pieces of evidence no longer get mentioned and a new reason for punishment surfaces. I hope Drew keeps speaking up and all of you who “know” the Saints are guilty as charged without seeing any actual evidence, please forward the winning numbers for the next Powerball drawing so others can benefit from your pyschic abilities.

  59. tdshouldbeinthehall says: Dec 12, 2012 9:51 PM

    Just shut up Drew. When it all first came to light you said you knew nothing about it because you aren’t on the Def. Now you all of a sudden know it was all a sham and nobody did anything wrong. You are a blowhard who is using the bounty investigation as an excuse for sucking it up this year on the field. Maybe if you ran the ball a little you would keep that D off the field and win a few more games. We all know that wont happen because all you care about is YOUR stats. By the way Drew weren’t you in on the negotiations for the new CBA that gave Goodell all that power? Blame yourself you stooge.

  60. silentcount says: Dec 12, 2012 9:53 PM

    Drew Brees is absolutely speaking the truth. There was no bounty system as Goodell tried to make you believe. He was blowing the whole thing up in an attempt to fabricate a safety villain to distract attention away from himself. Tagliabue flat said the punishments were too harsh for simply talking tough in pre-game pep rallies. No players were injured and no was was trying to injure anyone. Heck, Vilma had a total of two penalties for all of last season! Pay attention to the facts or just admit you want the Saints wounded so your team will have a better chance to beat them.

  61. surly1n1nd1anapol1s says: Dec 12, 2012 9:57 PM

    Douche Brees.

  62. snowpea84 says: Dec 12, 2012 9:58 PM

    Players are stupid. They are starting to think too highly of themselves. I thought their strike might have taught them something about what would happen without them….we would move on and let whoever wants to play play.

  63. fmwarner says: Dec 12, 2012 9:58 PM

    Goodell has little or no credibility with fans, either.

    You can whine about Brees complaining all you want, but he’s justified. I do believe the Tagliabue thing was staged as well. Roger gets to wiggle out of the suspensions but save face because Tagliabue made the completely nonsensical determination that the players still did it and all the evidence is airtight, but we’re not going to punish them because….

    Yeah.

  64. xakle says: Dec 12, 2012 10:11 PM

    yousuxxors says:
    Dec 12, 2012 8:51 PM
    Hey saints fans …. What exactly were the coaches trying to hide if they were doing nothing wrong? Thats why the league came down so hard because they were told to stop and didnt. Just because you were told doesnt mean it was right … Only one player was proved totally innocent. Paul said the system was there but didnt follow precedents.
    ____________________

    Pay for performance from the coach/management side was a salary cap violation punishable by the league (but per Article 14 of the CBA, Goodell had no authority over player punishments).

    However, there was never a pay to injure or bounty program. And let’s get one thing straight… the Saints were never told to stop running a pay for performance program. That’s an excuse the NFL uses to explain their harsh over the top punishments.

    The only thing that happened back in 2010, was that Joe Hummel showed up at the Saints’ facility and asked if there was a bounty program. They said no, because there was no bounty program. The reports were he spent more time asking where he should go eat than actually questioning them about a bounty program.

    The other important fact in this case to realize is that Paul Tagliabue is a partner at the law firm representing Goodell against Vilma’s defamation lawsuit. It’s not reasonable to believe Tagliabue would have claimed that there was no bounty program. That would have only given Vilma’s lawsuit more merit.

    It’s this simple: If there was a bounty program, the players would have been punished. Tagliabue’s ruling is contradictory. It’s a ruling that keeps this from going to court, but allows the NFL to say “See, we were right.”

  65. the1bigbird says: Dec 12, 2012 10:23 PM

    Breeze should have no credibility with the NFLPA. After being on the Exec Com that ratified the deal he then holds out. What a hypocrit.
    The “We were just following orders” excuse did not work after WWII and it does not work now. Own your actions. Do not cast blame.

  66. turfrage says: Dec 12, 2012 10:28 PM

    Drew needs to stop whining. He can always go find another job. Players do not run the league! They are employees only.

  67. mjkelly77 says: Dec 12, 2012 10:36 PM

    Brees says Goodell has “little or no credibility” with players
    _______________

    Players say Brees has “little or no credibility” speaking for them.

  68. brewcrewfan54 says: Dec 12, 2012 10:45 PM

    Greg Williams is one of the reasons you have a Super Bowl ring Drew. You didn’t do it all on your own although I’m not sure you know that anymore.

  69. Big D says: Dec 12, 2012 10:46 PM

    I wish no one would listen to Brees when he opens his mouth. I have no respect for him any longer.

  70. joebloww says: Dec 12, 2012 10:50 PM

    Hey Brees: Shut up Scarface!

  71. bduncanscott says: Dec 12, 2012 10:50 PM

    AMEN! Glad someone has the balls to stand up for the players and what is RIGHT!

  72. thejuddstir says: Dec 12, 2012 10:55 PM

    Drew…….I don’t recall one single player outside of the saints* organization as it relates to the bountygate that has questioned Goodell’s credibility. Players on the other 31 teams have been deafly silent…….I think that should tell you something. Not that Drew Brees knows the meaning of credibility as he swore his love for New Orleans, the saints*, Payton etc. while he held out for a fatter contract which has played a much bigger role in the saints* demise this year than anything Goodell did. The naive saints* fans don’t understand that Benson couldn’t spend the money on keeping certain players or bringing in better free agents because he had to break the bank to keep “Baby Brees” happy.

  73. thejuddstir says: Dec 12, 2012 10:59 PM

    Don’t bother trying to explain Tagliabue’s decision to saints* fans, they want to interpret the ruling as saying Goodell manufactured and manipulated the evidence when all Tags said was that the players were punished too harshly because they weren’t warned at least a year ahead of time that the NFL was going to start enforcing penalties.

  74. thebigcaptain2011 says: Dec 12, 2012 11:02 PM

    Goodell has no credibility with fans either

  75. sportfanz says: Dec 12, 2012 11:07 PM

    Zero respect for Brees and the Saints organization. Is it too much to ask for one of the players to take a little responsibility? I can see it’s not going to happen. Classless organization!

  76. tulanekenny says: Dec 12, 2012 11:15 PM

    internet…where you dont have to listen and can bash all you want!…saints fans from the get go agreed that there was wrong done…that the salary cap was violated…but not intent-to-injure bounties. That’s what the biggest difference is. If it were accepted as a salary cap violation..which is the ONLY thing proven and admitted to…it wouldn’t been a simple fine and a footnote on sportscenter headlines…You guys don’t get that the contention is that some one running a red light is being accused of murder…no one EVER has said there is complete innocence but you guys keep labeling it as such…I can’t believe it’s so hard to see (i guess cause it’s not your team) that goodell is taking something that is admittedly wrong and using it as a spring board to protect from lawsuits…all his one liners to bring up in the court room…punish the saints for what they did wrong and not what goodell made it out to be…THAT is the contention and has ALWAYS been…

  77. kimbo71006 says: Dec 12, 2012 11:20 PM

    For those of you that AREN’T FANS, get over yourself and post on a board for people who care.

    For US Saints fans, we are OUTRAGED.

    If you aren’t fans, then of course you aren’t outraged unless it happens to your team–then let’s see what you have to say.

    Suspensions vacated, no fines. Then it’s as if it doesn’t exist.

    When you are GUILTY, then you pay the price, just like in court. When you aren’t, then it’s the same as being NOT GUILTY. What part of that are you having a tough time understanding?

    Nobody was PROVEN GUILTY…period. That’s why the case didn’t stick and the Commissioner knew it couldn’t, hence the ruling that was made.

    I stand behind Brees and it’s amazing how much hate non-fans have–they just can’t stand the fact that the Saints have won a Superbowl (when many of their teams haven’t), and they can’t stand the fact that OUR quarterback – Brees – yep him – holds the most NFL records out of ALL THE NFL teams, you haters included.

    Remember…the Superbowl is in OUR HOUSE this year.

    And as far as Brees being a marketing nightmare? Where were you when he was breaking all those records and making all those commercials–he is a PR’s dream and has been (you must have been hiding under a rock these last few years).

    Come down to New Orleans…we’ll show you what we’re really made of and it’s not chicken-sh$$t egg-throwing at the airport!

  78. cowboyscanada says: Dec 12, 2012 11:22 PM

    Classless Brees!

  79. sportfanz says: Dec 12, 2012 11:26 PM

    What YOU don’t get is that RG’s job is to look out for the best interest of the game. After listening to Williams speech it’s hard to believe that there was “no intent to injure”. By the way, if you send one guy away for life for running a red light I am pretty sure you will discourage red-light running going forward…(Ok, thats a bit extreme). Just looking for a little accountability from the organization!

  80. bkunza says: Dec 13, 2012 12:28 AM

    Please shut the hell up Brees!!!!!!!!!

  81. llindy86 says: Dec 13, 2012 1:30 AM

    Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike Drew Brees anymore…he opens his mouth again. Throw some more INT’s, I enjoy watching that.

  82. nutman22 says: Dec 13, 2012 8:15 AM

    Hey Drew actually the Saints have become irrelevant to the rest of the NFL. Ever since the NFL agreed to let NO win the Superbowl to help the recovery from hurricane Katrina you guys have been on the downfall. Enjoy your 5-11 season!!!!

  83. cougred says: Dec 13, 2012 8:24 AM

    Well, now Brees. I would say your teammates and coaches have zero credibility with anyone. Your did something very wrong – admit it lets get beyond it now.

  84. allen227 says: Dec 13, 2012 12:46 PM

    Who the F is Brees? Speaking of credibility, he has none either. People here in Baton Rouge laugh at him everytime he speaks. He continues to talk about it, the more he talks the more the guilt shows. So Drew go back to throwing 60 times a game.

  85. delashmit says: Dec 13, 2012 1:21 PM

    Drew:

    Just shut up. We are tired of hearing your complaints. We do not care any longer. Quit crying and whining. You are starting to sound like a Big Baby.

  86. packerbadger says: Dec 13, 2012 2:15 PM

    I hope Breese throws five interceptions again this wknd.

  87. saintsfan76 says: Dec 13, 2012 6:35 PM

    You people are UNbelievable!!!! There has been ZERO evidence produced. Tagliabue let their suspensions go. Do you REALLY think he would’ve done that if there was evidence?? Yes I know what he said…blah blah blah…if he hadn’t said there was blame and it happens to “fall on the coaches” then Goodell and the NFL organization would’ve looked like a bigger idiot then they already do! Bree’s has been nothing but a stand up guy. He has more integrity then 99% of the NFL players. When even HALF of you people do or have done as much for the City of New Orleans then you have a right to speak about his integrity! Thank you. I am done for now.

  88. whoopteedo says: Dec 13, 2012 6:43 PM

    What is amazing is that no one’s even posted about what’s going on before U.S. District Court Judge Helen Berrigan. All that’s been discussed here so far is Goddell’s overreach, Tags’ damage control and the pros and cons for Brees defending his teammates and Head Coach. There’s a great deal more to hash here but it will be with the rule of law.

  89. patssteelersorgiants says: Dec 15, 2012 11:36 PM

    I’m still trying to understand why Payton hasn’t been banned for life. Goodell is ruining football with his rule changes, but Brees needs to sit down and worry about a hair replacement. Maybe this has something to do with the “coincidence” of NO winning after Katrina?

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