Comments on: Brees says Goodell has “little or no credibility” with players

By: patssteelersorgiants

patssteelersorgiants — Sun, 16 Dec 2012 04:36:49 +0000

I’m still trying to understand why Payton hasn’t been banned for life. Goodell is ruining football with his rule changes, but Brees needs to sit down and worry about a hair replacement. Maybe this has something to do with the “coincidence” of NO winning after Katrina?

By: whoopteedo

whoopteedo — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:43:39 +0000

What is amazing is that no one’s even posted about what’s going on before U.S. District Court Judge Helen Berrigan. All that’s been discussed here so far is Goddell’s overreach, Tags’ damage control and the pros and cons for Brees defending his teammates and Head Coach. There’s a great deal more to hash here but it will be with the rule of law.

By: saintsfan76

saintsfan76 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:35:07 +0000

You people are UNbelievable!!!! There has been ZERO evidence produced. Tagliabue let their suspensions go. Do you REALLY think he would’ve done that if there was evidence?? Yes I know what he said…blah blah blah…if he hadn’t said there was blame and it happens to “fall on the coaches” then Goodell and the NFL organization would’ve looked like a bigger idiot then they already do! Bree’s has been nothing but a stand up guy. He has more integrity then 99% of the NFL players. When even HALF of you people do or have done as much for the City of New Orleans then you have a right to speak about his integrity! Thank you. I am done for now.

By: packerbadger

packerbadger — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:15:02 +0000

I hope Breese throws five interceptions again this wknd.

By: delashmit

delashmit — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 18:21:27 +0000

Drew:

Just shut up. We are tired of hearing your complaints. We do not care any longer. Quit crying and whining. You are starting to sound like a Big Baby.

By: allen227

allen227 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:46:12 +0000

Who the F is Brees? Speaking of credibility, he has none either. People here in Baton Rouge laugh at him everytime he speaks. He continues to talk about it, the more he talks the more the guilt shows. So Drew go back to throwing 60 times a game.

By: cougred

cougred — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:24:55 +0000

Well, now Brees. I would say your teammates and coaches have zero credibility with anyone. Your did something very wrong – admit it lets get beyond it now.

By: nutman22

nutman22 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 13:15:55 +0000

Hey Drew actually the Saints have become irrelevant to the rest of the NFL. Ever since the NFL agreed to let NO win the Superbowl to help the recovery from hurricane Katrina you guys have been on the downfall. Enjoy your 5-11 season!!!!

By: llindy86

llindy86 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 06:30:02 +0000

Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike Drew Brees anymore…he opens his mouth again. Throw some more INT’s, I enjoy watching that.

By: bkunza

bkunza — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 05:28:57 +0000

Please shut the hell up Brees!!!!!!!!!

By: sportfanz

sportfanz — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:26:57 +0000

What YOU don’t get is that RG’s job is to look out for the best interest of the game. After listening to Williams speech it’s hard to believe that there was “no intent to injure”. By the way, if you send one guy away for life for running a red light I am pretty sure you will discourage red-light running going forward…(Ok, thats a bit extreme). Just looking for a little accountability from the organization!

By: cowboyscanada

cowboyscanada — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:22:25 +0000

Classless Brees!

By: kimbo71006

kimbo71006 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:20:21 +0000

For those of you that AREN’T FANS, get over yourself and post on a board for people who care.

For US Saints fans, we are OUTRAGED.

If you aren’t fans, then of course you aren’t outraged unless it happens to your team–then let’s see what you have to say.

Suspensions vacated, no fines. Then it’s as if it doesn’t exist.

When you are GUILTY, then you pay the price, just like in court. When you aren’t, then it’s the same as being NOT GUILTY. What part of that are you having a tough time understanding?

Nobody was PROVEN GUILTY…period. That’s why the case didn’t stick and the Commissioner knew it couldn’t, hence the ruling that was made.

I stand behind Brees and it’s amazing how much hate non-fans have–they just can’t stand the fact that the Saints have won a Superbowl (when many of their teams haven’t), and they can’t stand the fact that OUR quarterback – Brees – yep him – holds the most NFL records out of ALL THE NFL teams, you haters included.

Remember…the Superbowl is in OUR HOUSE this year.

And as far as Brees being a marketing nightmare? Where were you when he was breaking all those records and making all those commercials–he is a PR’s dream and has been (you must have been hiding under a rock these last few years).

Come down to New Orleans…we’ll show you what we’re really made of and it’s not chicken-sh$$t egg-throwing at the airport!

By: tulanekenny

tulanekenny — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:15:36 +0000

internet…where you dont have to listen and can bash all you want!…saints fans from the get go agreed that there was wrong done…that the salary cap was violated…but not intent-to-injure bounties. That’s what the biggest difference is. If it were accepted as a salary cap violation..which is the ONLY thing proven and admitted to…it wouldn’t been a simple fine and a footnote on sportscenter headlines…You guys don’t get that the contention is that some one running a red light is being accused of murder…no one EVER has said there is complete innocence but you guys keep labeling it as such…I can’t believe it’s so hard to see (i guess cause it’s not your team) that goodell is taking something that is admittedly wrong and using it as a spring board to protect from lawsuits…all his one liners to bring up in the court room…punish the saints for what they did wrong and not what goodell made it out to be…THAT is the contention and has ALWAYS been…

By: sportfanz

sportfanz — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:07:44 +0000

Zero respect for Brees and the Saints organization. Is it too much to ask for one of the players to take a little responsibility? I can see it’s not going to happen. Classless organization!

By: thebigcaptain2011

thebigcaptain2011 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:02:56 +0000

Goodell has no credibility with fans either

By: thejuddstir

thejuddstir — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:59:04 +0000

Don’t bother trying to explain Tagliabue’s decision to saints* fans, they want to interpret the ruling as saying Goodell manufactured and manipulated the evidence when all Tags said was that the players were punished too harshly because they weren’t warned at least a year ahead of time that the NFL was going to start enforcing penalties.

By: thejuddstir

thejuddstir — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:55:28 +0000

Drew…….I don’t recall one single player outside of the saints* organization as it relates to the bountygate that has questioned Goodell’s credibility. Players on the other 31 teams have been deafly silent…….I think that should tell you something. Not that Drew Brees knows the meaning of credibility as he swore his love for New Orleans, the saints*, Payton etc. while he held out for a fatter contract which has played a much bigger role in the saints* demise this year than anything Goodell did. The naive saints* fans don’t understand that Benson couldn’t spend the money on keeping certain players or bringing in better free agents because he had to break the bank to keep “Baby Brees” happy.

By: bduncanscott

bduncanscott — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:50:43 +0000

AMEN! Glad someone has the balls to stand up for the players and what is RIGHT!

By: joebloww

joebloww — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:50:11 +0000

Hey Brees: Shut up Scarface!

By: Big D

Big D — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:46:07 +0000

I wish no one would listen to Brees when he opens his mouth. I have no respect for him any longer.

By: brewcrewfan54

brewcrewfan54 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:45:22 +0000

Greg Williams is one of the reasons you have a Super Bowl ring Drew. You didn’t do it all on your own although I’m not sure you know that anymore.

By: mjkelly77

mjkelly77 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:36:44 +0000

Brees says Goodell has “little or no credibility” with players
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Players say Brees has “little or no credibility” speaking for them.

By: turfrage

turfrage — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:28:14 +0000

Drew needs to stop whining. He can always go find another job. Players do not run the league! They are employees only.

By: the1bigbird

the1bigbird — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:23:27 +0000

Breeze should have no credibility with the NFLPA. After being on the Exec Com that ratified the deal he then holds out. What a hypocrit.
The “We were just following orders” excuse did not work after WWII and it does not work now. Own your actions. Do not cast blame.

By: xakle

xakle — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 03:11:40 +0000

yousuxxors says:
Dec 12, 2012 8:51 PM
Hey saints fans …. What exactly were the coaches trying to hide if they were doing nothing wrong? Thats why the league came down so hard because they were told to stop and didnt. Just because you were told doesnt mean it was right … Only one player was proved totally innocent. Paul said the system was there but didnt follow precedents.
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Pay for performance from the coach/management side was a salary cap violation punishable by the league (but per Article 14 of the CBA, Goodell had no authority over player punishments).

However, there was never a pay to injure or bounty program. And let’s get one thing straight… the Saints were never told to stop running a pay for performance program. That’s an excuse the NFL uses to explain their harsh over the top punishments.

The only thing that happened back in 2010, was that Joe Hummel showed up at the Saints’ facility and asked if there was a bounty program. They said no, because there was no bounty program. The reports were he spent more time asking where he should go eat than actually questioning them about a bounty program.

The other important fact in this case to realize is that Paul Tagliabue is a partner at the law firm representing Goodell against Vilma’s defamation lawsuit. It’s not reasonable to believe Tagliabue would have claimed that there was no bounty program. That would have only given Vilma’s lawsuit more merit.

It’s this simple: If there was a bounty program, the players would have been punished. Tagliabue’s ruling is contradictory. It’s a ruling that keeps this from going to court, but allows the NFL to say “See, we were right.”

By: fmwarner

fmwarner — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:58:25 +0000

Goodell has little or no credibility with fans, either.

You can whine about Brees complaining all you want, but he’s justified. I do believe the Tagliabue thing was staged as well. Roger gets to wiggle out of the suspensions but save face because Tagliabue made the completely nonsensical determination that the players still did it and all the evidence is airtight, but we’re not going to punish them because….

Yeah.

By: snowpea84

snowpea84 — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:58:00 +0000

Players are stupid. They are starting to think too highly of themselves. I thought their strike might have taught them something about what would happen without them….we would move on and let whoever wants to play play.

By: surly1n1nd1anapol1s

surly1n1nd1anapol1s — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:57:45 +0000

Douche Brees.

By: silentcount

silentcount — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 02:53:53 +0000

Drew Brees is absolutely speaking the truth. There was no bounty system as Goodell tried to make you believe. He was blowing the whole thing up in an attempt to fabricate a safety villain to distract attention away from himself. Tagliabue flat said the punishments were too harsh for simply talking tough in pre-game pep rallies. No players were injured and no was was trying to injure anyone. Heck, Vilma had a total of two penalties for all of last season! Pay attention to the facts or just admit you want the Saints wounded so your team will have a better chance to beat them.