Comments on: Bucs players grumbling about “college” coaches

By: mikenjess143

mikenjess143 — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 02:00:48 +0000

wish this ” Player ” would have put his name to it like a real man. Then go home and explain to his wife and kids why he’ll be on someone else’s roster next year.

By: thelastpieceofcheese

thelastpieceofcheese — Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:45:45 +0000

Schiano will be buried in the NFL’s graveyard of college coaches.

The only ones that were partially successful, Jimmy Johnson and Bary Switzer were blessed with a great GM – Jerry Jones – who fed them star players.

By: dallascowboysdishingthereal

dallascowboysdishingthereal — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 22:18:24 +0000

Appears that the Bucs players are quitting on Schiano which is a bad sign.

By: ilovefoolsball

ilovefoolsball — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:51:50 +0000

This team is void of leadership. You don’t get thrashed 41-0 by a team with a losing record and react like that if you have leadership.

Time to look in the mirror son.

By: qwest12

qwest12 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:14:05 +0000

Always blame someone else. The coaches game plans and coaching worked earlier in the year so to get beat like that I have to say its heart and a lack of execution. Getting beat can be game plan and coaching but not getting beat like that.

By: pdxpanther

pdxpanther — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:21:41 +0000

The Seahawks and Niners each have a college coach. Difference is both of those teams have a top five D, and believe in their coaching staff. Bucs haven’t had a D since Monte Kiffin left, and have constantly questioned their coaches. Look in the mirror first, gentlemen.
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Difference between those two situations is that both coaches have an NFL pedigree to speak to. Carroll having a longer resumè as far as league history goes, and harbaugh being a former player in the league. They know what makes these players tick, and what gets them up for games.

Schiano thinks that he can come in like Nick Saban did, and try to be a dictator. That bit of doubt arose after the victory formation fiasco against the giants, and your defensive captain doesn’t even back your decision up. These aren’t impressionable college kids who can easily have the fear of god put in them once they step on the practice field. These are men collecting a paycheck who know what their job is and don’t need Schiano’s act to do their job. Those people wear out their welcome really fast in ANY job setting.

By: jcaulfield8

jcaulfield8 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:54:23 +0000

Why are they complaining?
The whole defense and qb are playing at the college level. Might as well have a college coach coaching them

By: jc327

jc327 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:39:52 +0000

All I have to say is don’t go disrespecting Bryan Cox. That dude was a bad, bad man in his day. Badder than anybody the Bucs have right now…

By: jgedgar70

jgedgar70 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:31:57 +0000

I’m not going to take a side on the assitant coach vs player battle. I am going to say that any team that employs Bryan Cox in a position of authority does so at their own risk.

One of my all-time favorite post-game rants came from Cox in ’95, I think it was week 14. I was watching SportsCenter waiting to see highlights of the expansion Panthers win over the Colts, and right before those highlights was the coverage of the Miami game, and there was Cox, having to have every other word bleeped out as he ranted about the distraction of the speculation that Jimmy Johnson was going to be hired to replace Don Shula. When he calmed down, he called the Dolphins win that day “the grace of God.” Oh, I thought, so he’s bipolar. That explains a lot!

By: gtskyrider

gtskyrider — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:27:25 +0000

I hated that Raheem Morris had to leave when it was all of Mark Dominik’s fault for not bringing in the right personnel. Now that we have Schiano, lets continue to bring in the right personnel. Let’s either get rid of Mark Dominik or have someone help him select better players, get Kirk Cousins from Washington (he’ll never get to be a starting QB there), and bring back Monte Kiffin!

By: japmen

japmen — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:18:32 +0000

First year of a new program. There will be some rough days but these players didnt well play for Raheem either so quit whining. You are playing a game and making millions. Don’t act like you’re the brains too. Just do your job and leave the rest to the coaching staff.

By: dikshuttle

dikshuttle — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:14:30 +0000

It’s working in Seattle. Next.

By: 6ringsandarapist

6ringsandarapist — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:40:30 +0000

maybe some of the players should have stayed in college longer?

By: whysomanylosers

whysomanylosers — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:33:06 +0000

another thought, maybe “that player” needs to go back to college himself, because I did not see many “professional” players on the field the last several weeks.

Everyone I know called me a pessimist when I kept calling out the “experts” that were saying the Bucs offense is explosive. It’s explosive, like a the day after a late night run to Taco Bell.

By: smarterfootball

smarterfootball — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:01:57 +0000

Bryan Cox has never coached college football as far as I know. He has always been an assistant NFL coach. He was probably also a better player than whoever said that.

By: spamrok

spamrok — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:56:06 +0000

People who make comments like that are the types of players who need to be let go. The bucs need a culture change, and schiano needs to draft players who fit his attitude scheme and outlook.

By: bucrightoff

bucrightoff — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:55:42 +0000

Yeah, kinda hard to sell the Freeman growing pains when Luck, RGIII and RWIII come in as rookies and look more poised and seasoned than Freeman ever has. Hell Nick Foles did too for that matter. In year three as a starter, with all the weapons he’s been given, there is absolutely no excuse to be regressing again.

Maybe Freeman figures it out eventually, but I doubt it. He plays too scared, makes awful decisions and has brutal accuracy for a guy 6-5. Trade him now while you can maybe find someone to take him, because after another mediocre year next year, you’ll have to let him walk for nothing.

By: krycek84

krycek84 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:49:30 +0000

Players quit on coll approach from Raheem Morris last year.
They quit on strict approach this year.

Stop whining, stop to take 300+ pass yards/game, Just do your work.

3 years ago, Tampa used 1st & 2nd round on DT, 2 years ago on DE, this year we need to draft 2 CB with our 1st and 2nd round.

By: ronaldjones

ronaldjones — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:39:42 +0000

The only growing pains Freeman experiences are around his waist

By: txeer304

txeer304 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:37:45 +0000

I’m sorry but the coaches are not the problem with this team. Its the lack of Talent that is hurting this team. Schiano has proved he can win when the talent meets the ways of his coaching. And by all.accounts the Bucs only 3 college coaches who didn’t have NfL experience. Andthe o line coach is one of the best one any level. But its just like NFL players to blame everyone but themselves. I like this coaching staff and I believe they will win. But they are still 3 solid picks away from making consistent runs at titles.

By: ningenito78

ningenito78 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:06:53 +0000

I’ve been a Rutgers football season ticket holder for a very long time and lived in NJ my whole life. Over the years I’ve met a couple guys that have played or worked for Schiano during his time at RU and everyone had the same sentiment- they HATED Schiano. He was brutal to work for and a psycho perfectionist. But they did respect him. I can see Schiano having success in the NFL but I fear the arc will be a small one. Guys like him usually has their message get old quickly.

By: gjeffries

gjeffries — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:59:27 +0000

First off J Freeman is no bumb. You would think fns of a franchise that best QB ever was Brad Johnson probably would appreciate a winner. (Steve Young does not count) He is clutch and remember how young he is. There are growing pains and saying he is the problem by some of these posters is a joke when they have a terrible secondary. Although Barron and Barber are solid. I have to admit and maybe I am wrong, but the fan base for the most part is embarrasing ( I said the most part bc there are some true fans) . You have a young up and coming team and stadium is not selling out and fans for other teams can be heard almost every week. So I am guessing all these no shows will come when they are a contender again. Seems like mostly front runners and makes me feel like they don’t deserve the good coach and up and coming talent they have all over. I know some of you guys are legit fans, but you have to admit outside looking in it makes the fan base mostly look like front runners. Just my opinion.

By: ruggyup

ruggyup — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:52:10 +0000

Performance and attitude are generally led by the HC and the QB. The facts are that Josh Freeman is neither a leader nor performer. He is a product of Raheem Morris’s failures in talent evaluation. Miscommunication with QB? The staff has had all training camp and the season to establish those details. So, boys and girls, we can’t wait another year of trial and error, move the position coaches and the QB. Move on. THIS IS A BUSINESS!

By: rajbais

rajbais — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:38:05 +0000

I have been on the record of talking about how this Greg Schiano hiring was not the best idea for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I have been on the record of also saying that this is Bobby Petrino all over again. Both guys had Small periods of employment in the NFL before becoming head coaches in college And that lack of experience is now fighting them in the butt. Schiano has slightly exceeded my expectations, but you cannot just hire a coach because Bill Belichick so that he was good.

Maybe this should warn people about Chip Kelly.

By: ndrick731

ndrick731 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:26:40 +0000

How did this guy ever get a professional job. He wasn’t a very good college coach. He had a couple of good seasons, that’s it. Other than that he was below average.

By: realfootballfan

realfootballfan — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:23:59 +0000

Maybe Raheem Morris wasn’t the problem on a team full of quitters that Mark Dominic put together, which wasn’t all that talented to begin with.

By: ballreaper

ballreaper — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:14:12 +0000

I guess we can’t blame Raheem Morris for this now can we, I luv how free agents were brought in AFTER they FIRED him, Shouldn’t it have been the other way around, anywho its just a pathetic franchise.

By: tincansailor981

tincansailor981 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:59:08 +0000

Full disclosure – I’m not a Tampa Bay fan and do not have any sympathy for their woes. That said, NFL players are well paid to play a kids game. With that comes the obligation to do as they’re told. Not one of them would want to join the vast majority of us who have real jobs and can’t dictate our boss’s fate, so all of them need to shut their mouths.

By: SeenThisB4

SeenThisB4 — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:56:51 +0000

It’s not so much the losing season that got that discipline out of whack, it was the 41-0 blowout that did that.

By: ronaldjones

ronaldjones — Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:54:58 +0000

Also, Tampa is a miserable city (“the Detroit of the South”) and probably deserves this embarrassment of a football team