Comments on: Titans plan to keep Chris Johnson, pay him $10 million in 2013

By: kenneththsc

kenneththsc — Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:15:28 +0000

WTF are you idiots talking about? All of you CJ haters know that the minute the Titans cut CJ, you would be praying your team picked him up.. And for the AP situation.. that record he is after would already belong to Cj if it wasn’t for Ed Hochuli’s bs holding call on Armad Hall in 2008 game against Seattle. Check online, Ed apologized to Cj for the crappy call! For the idiot with the comment about the fumbling issue, AP has 24 career fumbles and CJ has 12. Do the math, thats 1 fumble out of every 70 attempts for AP, and 1 fumble out of every 120 attempts for CJ. As for yardage AP is about 1760 ahead of CJ, but dont forget thats with another season and 264 attemps more than CJ. Im not saying CJ is the best back in the league but he is still a top tier running back.

By: wikipediasaidso

wikipediasaidso — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:25:31 +0000

They have to use that 89% or whatever it is of the cap next year, and it’s not like they have a lot of established veteran talent that’s going to be costing them a ton of money. They have the money to pay CJ and still decide on a few other guys whose contracts are coming up and might actually be worth investing in.

I would much rather they pay their own homegrown pick who, faults and all, is still a legitimately top tier back (and also impressively durable so far), rather than trying to fill their cap quota with high-priced UFAs. For all the grief he gets, Johnson is a much better team player than he gets credit for and is not nearly the diva/problem child some people try to make him out to be.

By: mungman69

mungman69 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:59:21 +0000

He’s the only star that they have.

By: leftcoaststeel

leftcoaststeel — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:56:11 +0000

how many Pro Bowl-ers are on that line anyways?

By: azarkhan

azarkhan — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:55:00 +0000

dalucks says: Smart move.
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Dumb move, and if you are ever wondering why, e.g., the Patriots remain consistently excellent over the years while teams like the Browns don’t, that is one reason. The Patriots never overpay any player, so they have more money to spend on, oh, “a better offensive line”.

By: dalucks

dalucks — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:24:47 +0000

Smart move. This is better than building the team around Jake Locker. Hopefully, Bud Adams will spend some of his cap money on a better offensive line and hire Juan Castillo as the offensive line coach.
I do not know why people are surprised, why would the Titans cut their best player?

By: jetnotjets

jetnotjets — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:56:22 +0000

In all of those low yardage games, he had minimal carries. Get a better defense, so they arent having to come from behind via the pass, and give the man 25-30 carries a game.

By: ron69

ron69 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:41:39 +0000

Chris Jonhnson had a 2nd round grade back in 08, guess what he plays like a 2nd rounder, good but not elite, he worths that money? I don’t think so but Titans really dont’ have a choice.

By: khmer379

khmer379 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:41:21 +0000

The only thing CJ have in common with AP is they both wear 28! Lmao

By: huskersrock1

huskersrock1 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:40:23 +0000

“Cut him, he will have a new team in less than 10 minutes.”

Not for 10 million, no one said he wasn’t good, just that he is overpaid.

By: BringBackTheFlex

BringBackTheFlex — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:39:21 +0000

Owners would do well to not sign any RB to more than 4 years, and certainly not to a contract that runs past their 30th birthday. Sure, you might get lucky, but more often than not you end up with a broken down has been.

But owners like drawing to an inside straight, that’s why there is so much dead cap money in the league.

By: azarkhan

azarkhan — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:09:37 +0000

In the salary cap era, $10 million for one year for any running back is absurd.

By: starchybunker

starchybunker — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:00:59 +0000

the interior of the O-line has stunk ever since Mawae was cut/forced into retirement…and the play-calling shows absolutely no creativity in that it simply runs CJ directly into that weak interior, where he is typically met head-on…

better run schemes and improved O-line talent could yield some amazing things from CJ and he could easily earn his pay…

but he needs to bring something more to the table as well…far too often he goes down very easily or doesn’t follow his blocks, instead trying to bounce for a bigger play…

By: 8to80texansblog

8to80texansblog — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:58:39 +0000

Arian Foster 2013 Base Salary – $5MM
Chris Johnson 2013 Base Salary – $10MM

I’ll take Arian Foster for half the money, half the head ache, 3 times the TD’s, and 1/4 of the turnovers…

And Arian signed his deal more recently than Chris Johnson….

By: totallyuselessme

totallyuselessme — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:57:51 +0000

A speed demon like Johnson is totally different when he hits an open crease in the DLine. He takes angles that just about any other man in the NFL would be caught by and blazes right past. There are guys that are nearly as fast as him, but they would break within five snaps of running between the tackles. What Johnson does in that respect is amazing. That’s just not something you can coach or replace.

I compare him to Fitzgerald. Fitz is never going to lead the league in receiving or touchdowns when he’s got (insert Cardinals QB here) to work with.

Johnson’s OLine has deteriorated around him since his 2K season. Whereas a lot of RBs break under the weight oft that workload’s worth of runs, it was his OLine that did.

By: dctitanfan

dctitanfan — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:39:37 +0000

Huge titanfan here. We should definitely keep CJ.

But let’s be real about the O-line and injuries. Most of the O-line injuries have come late in the season, but CJ was struggling early. Truth is, even the starting O-line was not playing well.

Sorry, Bruce Matthews, but you gotta go.

By: daknight93

daknight93 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:20:42 +0000

if Titans get some o-line help, CJ can be a more productive running back and be more consistent.

By: raymondtx

raymondtx — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:18:35 +0000

So that explains why he had a “bounce back year”.

Note to self…never draft Chris Johnson unless he is in a contract year….

By: ccjcsr

ccjcsr — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 16:03:21 +0000

10 mill for Rb’s is cap killer

By: lilrob10201

lilrob10201 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:57:11 +0000

He is good,but he should not be getting paid AP money.

By: mightymightylafootball

mightymightylafootball — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:52:32 +0000

turboreattore says:

Dec 19, 2012 9:57 AM

Chris Johnson has run over 1000 yards every single season in the NFL.

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The 1000/season metric is one of the worst stats in the NFL. Over 16 games, that’s 62.5 yards/game.

Color me unimpressed.

Better Stats: Yards Per Carry, Yards After Contact, Yards From Scrimmage.

Better Evaluation: Watch the player, because stats are nothing.

By: jerrykill4pres

jerrykill4pres — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:43:57 +0000

AP runs behind a line that was “patched” together this year, and a qb that has had how many games under 100 yards? And a QB rating of what? And he’s closing in on dickersons record. AP breaks off 10+ yard runs with how many guys in the box week in and week out. CJ still has a qb that can complete some passes and keep the defenses honest to a point. CJ has one thing… Speed… That’s it. AP has speed, power, agility, determination, and the right attitude. AP is worth the 10 mil.. Even in a passing league.. CJ is worth half that. He just flat out isn’t that good. End of story.

By: lhr4

lhr4 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:24 +0000

The Titans and their rich culture of historically bad decisions. I love these guys. Any time I need a laugh, I look at their news. How far have they fallen from “The Music City Miracle”. And when they were The Oilers, were they ever relevant?

By: jbcommonsense

jbcommonsense — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:35:27 +0000

$10 million is a lot of dough, CJ is great, so maybe. But this whole idea that CJ is ''too inconsistent'' is bogus. An RB can only run through the holes that open up. Tennessee used to have a great OL, and they need to restock on some quality linemen.

By: kluuuuuuuuug

kluuuuuuuuug — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:17:21 +0000

Just to tack on to the line issues, in some cases they’ve been down to 3rd stringers on the line. With 16 or 17 guys on IR, it’s not going to be easy to stay consistent.

More consistency would be nice, but their needs to be more around him for that to happen.

By: spartan822

spartan822 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:13:49 +0000

Johnson and Barry Sanders are the only players in NFL history to have three touchdown runs of 80 yards or more in one season.
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Adrian Peterson will join that group before the season is over.

By: chb74

chb74 — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:11:29 +0000

This isn’t a slam against Chris Johnson, just an observation on the relatively inferior importance of RB position in today’s pass-dependent NFL: For the past decade or so, the most consistently successful teams have elite QBs and often surprisingly middle of the road (or worse) RBs. Conversely, teams with elite RBs and middle of the road QBs tend to get stuck watching the playoffs from their couch. It makes sense to allocate most of a team’s financial resources towards the positions that improve the passing game and stop the pass. So is CJ worth a fair amount of money? Sure. Is he worth breaking the bank for? Not in my opinion, no—not because he’s not a very good RB, but because RBs in general just don’t contribute as heavily to a team’s overall success.

By: turboreattore

turboreattore — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:57:21 +0000

Chris Johnson has run over 1000 yards every single season in the NFL. This year he did it with 4 of 5 starting Olinemen out and a terrible QB who can only run. Johnson is the only great player the Titans have, and they’re in doubt to keep or cut him, ridicolous. Cut him, he will have a new team in less than 10 minutes.

By: jaxbeachjagfan

jaxbeachjagfan — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:54:03 +0000

As far as CJ selling jerseys, the Titans would make the same amount of money if he’s wearing their jersey or if he’s wearing a Texans jersey.

1/32 of whatever the profit is. Teams equally split jersey revenues.

By: mrmosier

mrmosier — Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:41:22 +0000

@kirschmania, you got to where I was going first.
Keep in mind the line play this year is not on par with what he had his first three years. In the game Monday night, the Titans did not have 3 of their starters from training camp suited up (Michael Roos, who had the great block on the Locker touchdown, is the only one not on IR). Kevin Matthews, who started the game at center, had already hit the sidelines with a high ankle sprain.
The o-line this year is composed of journeymen and cast-offs, with a few of the Titans normal backups (Velasco is the only one I can come up with off the top of my head) left playing. Tennessee would be foolish to get rid of one of their only playmakers (even if he has been inconsistent recently).

On the PR side, read the cleats.