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Carson Palmer out, no decision yet on Pryor or Leinart starting

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We don’t yet know who the Raiders’ starting quarterback for Sunday’s season finale will be. But we know who it won’t be.

Carson Palmer, who has started all 15 games this season, has been ruled out for Week 17 against the Chargers after suffering cracked ribs and a bruised lung on Sunday against the Panthers.

Raiders coach Dennis Allen says he has not yet decided whether Terrelle Pryor or Matt Leinart will start in Palmer’s place. Considering that the Raiders have nothing to play for, it would seem to make more sense to see what Pryor can do as a starter, with a full week of work with the first-string offense. The Raiders have indicated that they think Pryor could benefit from getting some playing time down the stretch, so if Allen now goes with Leinart, that would be a strong sign that the Raiders haven’t liked what they’ve seen of Pryor in practice and don’t see him ever becoming their starter.

As for Palmer, although he returned from Charlotte on the Raiders’ team plane on Sunday night, he was injured badly enough that he stayed overnight in the hospital after returning to the Bay Area.

I’ve definitely been better,” Palmer told Paul Gutierrez of CSNBayArea.com in an email today.

Palmer has had a solid season, with 4,018 passing yards, 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, but overall the Raiders’ decision to trade for him would have to be viewed as a disappointment: When you trade a first-round pick and a second-round pick for a quarterback in his 30s, you’re hoping he can step in right away and lead you to the playoffs. Instead, the Raiders went 4-5 in games Palmer started last season and are now 4-11 with him this season. It’s still possible that Palmer could find success in the future with the Raiders, but that won’t happen until 2013.

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51 Responses to “Carson Palmer out, no decision yet on Pryor or Leinart starting”
  1. realskipbayless says: Dec 24, 2012 4:48 PM

    Carson “the quitter” palmer

  2. fcrraptor720 says: Dec 24, 2012 4:52 PM

    Oak if your not gonna use the kid, let him go. I know a team or 2 that could use a new qb

  3. mullman76 says: Dec 24, 2012 4:55 PM

    Start Pryor.

  4. irishfan109 says: Dec 24, 2012 5:05 PM

    The fascination with backup QB’s in this league is sickening. It’s always the most popular player on the team…until he takes the field.

    I’m a Raiders fan but Pryor has taken 4 snaps in 2 years, they obviously don’t believe in him. As long as we don’t end up with Mark Sanchez next year, I’ll be happy.

  5. stevincinci says: Dec 24, 2012 5:08 PM

    It’s still possible that Palmer could find success in the future with the Raiders, but that won’t happen until 2013.

    Ya think?

  6. blacksunday1 says: Dec 24, 2012 5:12 PM

    Let the kid play and let’se see what’s he’s made of..He needs to get hit few times to see how he handle pressure and gauge his composure.

  7. aldavisisthenfl says: Dec 24, 2012 5:21 PM

    Stop with the Palmer trade discussions…..we paid a steep price but he easily is the best QB we’ve had in the last 25 years with exception of Gannon who like Palmer had his ups and downs…..but each was gamer.

    I’ll feel pretty good about this “quitter” driving the bus for t,he next 5 years…..

    BTW, there just aren’t enough Bradys or Mannings for all 32 teams to go around.

  8. hoodheisman says: Dec 24, 2012 5:27 PM

    Allen and Knapp both know they won’t be in Oakland next year. So they have no incentive to give Pryor a look.

  9. goraidersgospurs says: Dec 24, 2012 5:32 PM

    How did that CB Bengals took with the raiders first round pick do this season? Is he the next Deion Sanders?

  10. raiderinva says: Dec 24, 2012 6:19 PM

    Given his history of staying healthy, if the Raiders do start Matt Leinart chances are he will not finish the game. I am honestly surprised he was able to finish the Panthers game.

    I honestly do not believe that Denis Allen is in the hot seat. Given the difficult situation that he and Reggie McKenzie walked into, it’s on;y realistic to believe that it will take a few years to straighten the ship. Allen is young and he will be going through a learning curve along with the house cleaning. More importantly the team has not quit and continues to play and play hard.

    Given the situation you have to start Terrelle Pryor and start looking to the future.

  11. nbooat says: Dec 24, 2012 6:23 PM

    How did that CB Bengals took with the raiders first round pick do this season? Is he the next Deion Sanders?

    __________________________________
    No, he has barely played this year, due to injury. He will probably be a starter for years to come along with the high 2nd round pick we will be getting from Jokeland this draft.

    Not to mention we are going back to the playoffs again (since Palmer quit). You guys have 4 wins, even worse than before Palmer got there. Yet you still insist he has helped your team so much.

    You got fleeced (and destroyed by the Bengals this season)!!! Mike Brown screwed over Mark Davis worse than his barber did!!!!!!!!!!

    Just wince baby!!!!!
    Raiders are the worst team in the league from top to bottom.
    I can’t believe that any Raiders’ fan would even talk smack on this site!!!

  12. chucksters says: Dec 24, 2012 6:45 PM

    Palmer has had a solid season, with 4,018 passing yards, 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions, but overall the Raiders’ decision to trade for him would have to be viewed as a disappointment: When you trade a first-round pick and a second-round pick for a quarterback in his 30s, you’re hoping he can step in right away and lead you to the playoffs.

    SOLID SEASON… 4-11 is a Solid Season.. come on .

  13. rangersleadtheway says: Dec 24, 2012 7:00 PM

    Don’t the bengals have like two winning seasons in the past 25 years? Brown fleeced the Raiders on a trade? Cool, he’s been fleecing the franchise for years.. Even Corey Dillon hated that place. . And the highlight of your only Super Bowl was when Ronnie Lott knocked Ickey Woods out of football for life…

  14. oaktown22 says: Dec 24, 2012 7:00 PM

    Smack talk from a Bengals fan is just ridiculous.. The bengals have never won a Super Bowl and have been 1 off the worse franchises in the history of the Nfl.. They get a 1st round pick for Carson and all of the sudden they forget they’ve been horrible for the last 40 years beside for a short period in the 80’s..

  15. stull60060 says: Dec 24, 2012 7:09 PM

    Palmer is one of the few good things the Raiders had going for them this season. He doesn’t have a lot of talent around him. He also has all new coaches and a new GM. The defense was also bad. We won 4 games because of Palmer.
    Hey Nboat. The Bungels aren’t going anywhere. Palmer will win a Super Bowl Championship before the Bungels ever do. How many Super Bowls did the Bungels win? Oh yeh, that’s right NONE, ZERO, NADA ! As far as fleecing the Raiders draft picks, don’t count on it. Your organization has stunk since its inception into the league. I don’t see too many Bungel jerseys being worn anywhere including Cincinnati. But I sure see a lot of Raider jerseys being worn all over the world. The Bungels have never mattered and never will.

  16. threedeep1998 says: Dec 24, 2012 7:15 PM

    Good stats with all of them being mostly in garbage time.

  17. johnnyb216 says: Dec 24, 2012 7:41 PM

    I didn’t even know Leinart was still in the league!

  18. demolition510 says: Dec 24, 2012 8:07 PM

    ” He will probably be a starter for years to come …” Lol. Okay. Tell me the lotto numbers while you’re at it.

  19. commonsensedude says: Dec 24, 2012 8:22 PM

    I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but, as far as the Bengals go, aren’t they going to the playoffs this year? Unlike Carson Palmer’s current team?

  20. nomoreseasontix says: Dec 24, 2012 8:24 PM

    Um… Pryor won’t be starting. He’s not “ready”…

    Translation: “He STILL doesn’t know much of the playbook, and doesn’t do a good job of executing what he DOES know”.

    Everyone who thinks you can just put him in there and he’ll tear it up, It’s not dirt-lot ball.

  21. stilllovemybungles says: Dec 24, 2012 8:30 PM

    aldavisisthenfl says:Dec 24, 2012 5:21 PM

    Stop with the Palmer trade discussions…..we paid a steep price but he easily is the best QB we’ve had in the last 25 years with exception of Gannon who like Palmer had his ups and downs…..but each was gamer.

    I’ll feel pretty good about this “quitter” driving the bus for t,he next 5 years…..

    BTW, there just aren’t enough Bradys or Mannings for all 32 teams to go around.
    _________________________________

    5 years of high draft picks will help any team! Take a look @ my Bengals! lol.. Goodluck with the loser! Him quitting is the best thing he had done for Cinci since 05!

  22. footballbat says: Dec 24, 2012 8:31 PM

    On the upside: It’s just a few weeks until the annual unveiling of certain Raider fans telling us all about how they are going to , intimidate, dominate and beat every team (and person) next year and re-take their place atop the NFL that was so wrongfully stolen from them by the league, owners and refs.

    If it weren’t so true, it would almost be funny.

  23. r81ders says: Dec 24, 2012 8:40 PM

    playoffs you talking playoffs lol give me a break the bungholes aka Bengals are just a bye week for who ever they get in the wild card get for real win a super bowl then brag or even win your division Bengals got in like scabes at the bottom and there proud off making the playoffs are you really going knock out denver, pats really all you are is a bye week. thanks for palmer hes better than any free agent qb out there.

  24. rangersleadtheway says: Dec 24, 2012 8:43 PM

    And we’re just a few weeks away from Cincinnati fading to their perpetual irrelevancy… People will always talk about the Raiders. Bengals? Only when another of their players gets arrested…

    Only Bengals fans treat qualifying for the playoffs as the second coming. I suppose when it happens twice in 25 years, got to take it when you can. You’re the historical equivalent of the old LA Clippers… You barely only benefit on Steelers and Ravens down years. Soon enough you won’t even keep place with Cleveland. Then you can quietly go sit by yourselves like you have been the past 25 years.. Last time Bengals fans made this much noise? Carson Palmer was your QB..

  25. lostsok says: Dec 24, 2012 8:59 PM

    Calling Palmer “4-11″ is like blaming the passengers for Titanic hitting the iceberg. The guy has played his guts out (almost literally!), and hasn’t complained. Did Oakland overpay for him? Sure, probably, but how is that HIS fault?

    One of the few things the Raiders have going through them as they enter the rebuild they lacked the firepower for last year is knowing they have a solid veteran QB to help.

    That said, this has to be Pryor’s one real shot to show he was worth the pick they surrendered for him. And for God’s sake, Oakland, put Leinart out of everyone’s misery. No one needs to see THAT.

  26. realskipbayless says: Dec 24, 2012 9:00 PM

    Why all the hate? You all didn’t know Carson is a quitter? Wait till the jokeland faders do their thing and fade away. Carson will quit on your crappy franchise as well. And for the record Andy Dalton is a better qb now then Carson will ever be.

  27. realskipbayless says: Dec 24, 2012 9:04 PM

    nbooat says:
    Dec 24, 2012 6:23 PM
    How did that CB Bengals took with the raiders first round pick do this season? Is he the next Deion Sanders?

    __________________________________
    No, he has barely played this year, due to injury. He will probably be a starter for years to come along with the high 2nd round pick we will be getting from Jokeland this draft.

    Not to mention we are going back to the playoffs again (since Palmer quit). You guys have 4 wins, even worse than before Palmer got there. Yet you still insist he has helped your team so much.

    You got fleeced (and destroyed by the Bengals this season)!!! Mike Brown screwed over Mark Davis worse than his barber did!!!!!!!!!!

    Just wince baby!!!!!
    Raiders are the worst team in the league from top to bottom.
    I can’t believe that any Raiders’ fan would even talk smack on this site!!!

    Someone that knows what they are talking about. Once a quitter always a quitter. I saw some one above call Palmer a gamer? Yea he’s one of those gamers you see rage quit cause they lose.

  28. bengalskuta82 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:08 PM

    The raiders are NFLs most generous team. From the front office, QB and defense..They will let u score points, the QB will give a pick 6 if you’re patient enough and oh those draft picks to the Bengals..whew! Thanks..whoa wait a minute,..they still owe the Bengals a 1st round pick coming draft..hahahaha..

  29. realskipbayless says: Dec 24, 2012 9:10 PM

    Bengals-34___Raiders-10. Incase any fader fans have forgotten.

  30. johnnyjagfan says: Dec 24, 2012 9:23 PM

    Tell Leinart he’s coming back next year and that you want to see whether or not the kid is. Start Pryor. Leinart, with an entire offseason and Carson gone, is a better long-term option. Heck, send Leinart to Jax!

  31. voyager6 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:32 PM

    Not much dog in this hunt, but I’d point out that a good QB season is usually when the TD:INT ratio is greater than 2:1. Palmer didn’t meet this standard.

  32. whodeydaytonchapter says: Dec 24, 2012 10:01 PM

    Palmer was always a very talented QB that put up good numbers. Too bad he is a crappy leader. Dalton does not have the same amount of physical talent as Palmer but he is a better QB. I’m not a Palmer hater, I don’t blame him for quitting. But there is something poetic about him going to a playoff bound team and continuing his big numbers/loosing ways.
    They need to play Pryor and hope he can put up a trade bait type performance. If nothing else.

  33. tooz72 says: Dec 24, 2012 10:06 PM

    i can’t wait till they cut the OSU clown and all this talk can finally end..he is NOT an NFL QB

  34. dawsonleery says: Dec 24, 2012 10:09 PM

    Its not like the Bengals will do anything good with those draft picks but draft more criminals.

  35. jethrie says: Dec 24, 2012 10:13 PM

    Let’s get a few things clear:
    The Bengals have been to the playoffs 4 times since 05. The Raiders?
    The Bengals took a first and second round draft pick from the Raiders for a player who no longer started for the Bengals(reason why does not matter). Logically, the Bengals gave up nothing for two high draft picks.
    Those two draft picks have set the Raiders rebuilding efforts back at least three years, not to mention saddleing them with an aging QB who, while putting up meaningless stats, has a bad tendency to throw back-breaking interceptions (we Bengal fans called them Palmer-ceptions). And who does not win.
    And, while Ickey Woods did have his career ended via a knee injury, Bo Jackson’s career was ended by a hip injury he sustained while playing, you guessed it, the Bengals.
    The Bengals have a history of fouling up the Raiders. I understand your anger. I also think it is hilarious.

  36. kenstabler says: Dec 24, 2012 10:37 PM

    It’s not all Palmer’s fault, this team just can not keep their key players healthy, it is really young and lacks depth on both sides of the ball. Leinhart knows this offense better than Palmer. I think you play them both. At least you will know if your backup can perform for next season, and see if Pryor can show anything. Nothing to lose with this lost season.

  37. raiderapologist says: Dec 24, 2012 10:43 PM

    nbooat says: Dec 24, 2012 6:23 PM

    Just wince baby!!!!!
    Raiders are the worst team in the league from top to bottom.
    I can’t believe that any Raiders’ fan would even talk smack on this site!!!
    ———
    The Bungals haven’t won a playoff game since 1990, and haven’t played for a championship berth since 1988. That’s 24 years. I can’t believe any Bengal fan would talk smack to anyone, anywhere.

  38. bittersportspills says: Dec 24, 2012 10:48 PM

    Its about time to find out if Pryor can play.

  39. feardatiger says: Dec 24, 2012 10:54 PM

    In the past decade the Raiders have 49 wins. The Bengals have 78 wins in the same time period (2003-2012). Therefore in the past decade, the Bengals > Raiders. I don’t care about Super Bowl wins before 90% of these commenters were born…

  40. mwcarolina says: Dec 25, 2012 12:43 AM

    i personally would start Pryor. is he great, dont think so, BUT Palmer’s hurt and we know what Leinart is and i dont see him winning for this team. now if Palmer were healthy, there’s no question, but here there is because Leinart is a career backup who’s arm isnt really great and Pryor’s an unknown.

  41. chazatlas says: Dec 25, 2012 6:03 AM

    The hit against Palmer that took him out was clean and did not deserve a penalty. The ref’s are automatically throwing flags whenever a QB or WR goes down or drops a ball. This is getting really old, really quick.

  42. joetoronto says: Dec 25, 2012 6:49 AM

    The Bungals are, were and always will be irrelevant.

    Just complete losers.

  43. t8ertot says: Dec 25, 2012 10:13 AM

    Raiders have RECENTLY been the worst team for a LONG TIME.

    Yeah the Bengals have sucked in the past. But their FUTURE is bright. Unlike the sorry excuse of a team the Raiders put out every Sunday

  44. torturedraiderfan says: Dec 25, 2012 11:08 AM

    I’m hoping the 2013 Raider QB isn’t even on the current roster. Palmer has good numbers, but he’s prone to throwing bone-headed interceptions at the worst times. Even the Giants and Cowboys have a hard time overcoming those interceptions when Eli Manning and Tony Romo throw them and they are much better teams. Leinert certainly isn’t the answer and it’s obvious the coaches aren’t comfortable with Pryor. So let’s hope McKenzie can find some QBs in the draft or free agency.

  45. raiderapologist says: Dec 25, 2012 11:24 AM

    feardatiger says: Dec 24, 2012 10:54 PM

    In the past decade the Raiders have 49 wins. The Bengals have 78 wins in the same time period (2003-2012). Therefore in the past decade, the Bengals > Raiders. I don’t care about Super Bowl wins before 90% of these commenters were born…
    ———-
    78 wins in ten years? What does that trophy look like? Fans of teams that have never won anything always edit history and claim that championships don’t matter. It’s understandable. It’s hard to appreciate something you’ve never experienced.

  46. t8ertot says: Dec 25, 2012 11:37 AM

    “78 wins in ten years? What does that trophy look like? Fans of teams that have never won anything always edit history and claim that championships don’t matter. It’s understandable. It’s hard to appreciate something you’ve never experienced.”

    Compared to your 49…lol

  47. platinumraider32 says: Dec 25, 2012 1:06 PM

    This really is a non issue. If not for JaMarcus Russell, Matt Leinart would easily be the biggest 1st round bust in the last 10 years!

    He was on back to back National Championship teams that won 1. He won the Heisman and has done absolutely nothing since. The NFL is too fast for him, he has no mobility and his throwing motion is slow and deliberate which NFL DB’s jump all over.

    How can Pryor not be ready? Has Dennis Allen even watched his offense this year? At least Pryor can “get” away. Your offense is nothing short of horrible by NFL standards. The players you have can’t run the scheme you installed. Play calling is non existent.

    I’d have more respect for Dennis Allen if he just told the truth instead of insulting peoples intelligence with the absurd comments he continues to make.

  48. MyTeamsAllStink says: Dec 25, 2012 3:24 PM

    Leinart throws like a girl.If you’re going to tell me he gives you the best chance to win and not start snickering you’re a fool.Pryor isn’t the next great QB but he can scramble and run.Might as well see what he can do its not as if this game determines if we go to the playoffs.

  49. araidersfan says: Dec 25, 2012 4:41 PM

    The Bungles haven’t been respected since Paul Brown passed away. Their historical regular season record is well below .500.

    I can guess that their ENVIOUS loser fans want to kick a formerly great team down on their luck in recent years because in a division that they share with the Ravens & Steelers (both of whom have won Super Bowls in the last dozen years) the Bungles are an afterthought who haven’t even sniffed championship glory.

  50. txraiderfan says: Dec 25, 2012 5:53 PM

    Oakland wins 9-10 games with Hue Jackson running the offense this year. Greg Krapp is an idiot.

  51. raideralex99 says: Dec 25, 2012 6:26 PM

    Breaking news … Bengals fans love Mike Brown …. LOL!
    Give me a break … One of the cheapest owners in the NFL who doesn’t care about winning is a heroe now.
    Just wait until AC Green needs a new contract … Will he quit on the team because he is sick of Brown too.

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