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Raiders said they wanted to “take out” Cam Newton

Jerome Boger, Cam Newton AP

The Raiders admitted after the game they were trying to “take out” Panthers quarterback Cam Newton.

Newton bumped an official, and wasn’t thrown out.

In the immortal words of Vince Lombardi, “What the hell is going on out here?”

Yesterday’s Panthers-Raiders game was a mess from start to finish, making it hard to argue referee Jerome Boger and his crew had control of things.

Raiders defensive tackle Tommy Kelly was flagged for retaliating when Newton kicked at him from the pile after a sack.

“He kicked me, and I ain’t fixing to take that off nobody,” Kelly said, via Jerry McDonald of BayAreaNewsGroup.com. “What are you going to do when someone kicks you? You going to take it? Nah.”

That didn’t make it OK by his coach.

“We’re trying to change the culture, and what we have to understand is we have to keep our composure in those types of situations because nothing good comes out of it,” Raiders coach Dennis Allen said.

Then came an admission the Raiders were trying to get Newton out of the game, after Raiders starting quarterback Carson Palmer was knocked from the game earlier.

You take our guy out, we’re going to take your guy out,” Kelly said. “We’re not out to hurt someone, but when that happens … .”

Newton was later flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct but wasn’t ejected. Boger told a pool reporter that he “misspoke” when saying Newton was flagged for contact, saying it was for “disrespectfully addressing an official” and the contact “was not of a malicious nature.”

The frustration (with the officials, and each other) was palpable as the day went on, and none of three parties involved distinguished themselves in the process.

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43 Responses to “Raiders said they wanted to “take out” Cam Newton”
  1. dd393 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:24 AM

    So, the players want to intentionally injure an opposing player, and the players’ union says the league doesn’t do enough to protect players?

  2. goraidersgospurs says: Dec 24, 2012 9:25 AM

    Thats the 70s Raiders way, oh well.

  3. thehuckster404 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:26 AM

    When a coach tells you to take out the opposing teams best player, isn’t he saying by extension I don’t think we’re good enough to win with this other team at 100 percent?

  4. evilbilly3 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:30 AM

    So what? As long as there was no money exchanged everything is cool. Just ask Goodell.

  5. kattykathy says: Dec 24, 2012 9:30 AM

    Ok Mr. Dictator Goodell, when will you be suspending the Raiders and their officials for “bounties”

    Everyone is waiting. We all know you will do nothing,,,,,,,, and Vilma’s case keeps getting stronger and stronger

  6. jakec4 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:30 AM

    Retaliation could be be confused for bounty. Unwise to give Goodell and his minions an opportunity to make another pointless point.

  7. raiderman81 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:32 AM

    bye kelly you wont be back……. although cam did kick him…. just saying.. cam better be careful .. hes one one of thed nfl untouchables.. but man to man you just dont do somethings..

  8. panthers34 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:32 AM

    A Raider lunged at Newton’s knee in the game. At the time I just thought it was an accident from being blocked into him. Now I’m starting to wonder.

  9. kattykathy says: Dec 24, 2012 9:32 AM

    These are the officials that every Packer fan whined to bring back.

    At least the officials in Seattle got the calls correct against Green Bay.

  10. jessefootball says: Dec 24, 2012 9:34 AM

    Tommy Kelly was already ejected earlier this year for a fight with the Bengals.

    Now he wants us to believe he’s a choir boy and not trying to hurt anybody? He was twisting Newton’s knee in the pile.

  11. lightcleric says: Dec 24, 2012 9:42 AM

    Giants targeting someone because they have a concussion, LaRon Landry admitting to “Headhunting”, Raiders admitting to targeting someone…

    But yeah, the Saints were the problem.

  12. prospero63 says: Dec 24, 2012 9:46 AM

    “making it hard to argue referee Jerome Boger and his crew had control of things

    Wait, more refs incapable of doing their job? Where is the accountability that was supposedly a cornerstone of the NFL’s stance in the lockout? I thought they wanted to have accountability of officials. To be able to take officials that weren’t hacking it and sit them on the bench. Has any of the crap officiating from week 4 till now resulted in any kind of discipline at all??!?

  13. oneandonlyramsfaninpa says: Dec 24, 2012 9:47 AM

    so, he is on the record saying he wants to take a guy out of the game? um…didn’t anyone learn from the saints? let’s see if Goodell makes a fuss about this abs then we can see if he is fair

  14. oaklegend says: Dec 24, 2012 9:59 AM

    All I can say as a Raider fan who was starting Cam Newton yesterday is, “They didn’t throw him out for that bump?!?!?!?!?! You’re kidding me! and… “WHEW! So glad for the official bias against the Raiders for that single moment.”

  15. omniusprime says: Dec 24, 2012 10:01 AM

    Cam Newton kicks like a little girl. After what happened to Carson Palmer the Raiders should have really hurt that little jerk Newton.

    Screw Denise Allen and his changing the culture at the Raiders. Yeah he’s changed it for the worse with a far worse season than last year. Time to get rid of Reggie McKenzie as well, he just doesn’t understand Raider football. They want to turn the Raiders into sissies, to heck with that.

    Actually glad the Raiders lost so they’ll get better draft picks, hopefully they’ll be playing for draft picks next weekend.

  16. veetan says: Dec 24, 2012 10:10 AM

    The Raiders openly state that they were targeting the opposing QB for injury, right? So based on the precedent set on what he did to New Orleans, is Roger Goodell now gonna suspend the Raiders head coach for a year, take away a bunch of draft picks, & fine the organization a half million dollars? And, oh yeah, suspend players who were later found to be innocent.

    Or was that sort of treatment reserved only for the Saints?

    Goodell is a destroyer of worlds and needs to go.

  17. oaklegend says: Dec 24, 2012 10:12 AM

    Omniusprime:

    Reggie and Dennis stay, I hope. It’s time for the Raiders to let a coach, especially a very young one, catch a breath and give him some tools to work with. No CB’s, no edge rusher, leaky Oline, left-overs at TE, inconsistency at WR, a bad, really bad philosophical shift by the OC… in the shift from Hubris Jackson to Dennis Allen the team was gutted and the only part of that I hold DA accountable for is the hiring of Greg Knapp and the fact that he didn’t fire him somewhere mid-season. Now, if he fails to make a that change and the results are anywhere similar, then I say can him after season two.

  18. melikefootball says: Dec 24, 2012 10:13 AM

    There is always an excuse for how Cam acts. Here is another one.

  19. ebrownwareagle says: Dec 24, 2012 10:16 AM

    6’6 250!! Gonna take a lot to take that guy out! Funny thing is, it’s ok to openly say to the Media that they were trying to take Cam out, while people applaud and cheer. Ol but had it been Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers; the Sports World would be in a frenzy and heads would start to roll. Calling for fines, suspension and even jobs. Yet, since its just Cam Newton; it’s more “Ahh Boys will be Boys, get over it” and ” let em play”. I’m just saying. Somethings fishy about that picture.

  20. raiderinva says: Dec 24, 2012 10:17 AM

    The refs for this game were horrible and they almost lost complete control of the game. Even the hometown announcers were confused by the flags that were thrown, on both sides. If a defender laid out a solid hit, it was flagged for helmet to helmet.

    Cam Newton cry’s like Kordell Stewart and should have been ejected. Like a good QB he tried not to go down when he was in the grasp. Kelley put him down and cam did not like it so he kicked him. Of course Kelley was flagged for unnecessary roughness.

  21. wisewoo says: Dec 24, 2012 10:18 AM

    Hm… Fighting/playing scrappy/playing dirty to cover up the fact that you aren’t talented enough to win.

    Are they hormonal teenagers or a professional football team? Grow up, Raiders. Seriously. Its time.

  22. cmoke says: Dec 24, 2012 10:24 AM

    “Actually glad the Raiders lost so they’ll get better draft picks, hopefully they’ll be playing for draft picks next weekend.”

    We hope you lose too. You owe us your second round pick.

    Bengals

  23. mullman76 says: Dec 24, 2012 10:37 AM

    @wisewoo: Pull your head out of the sand. The Cinci debacle/scrap a few weeks ago was due to a horrible call. The game getting out of control yesterday was due to the 1) horrendous calls and 2) Cam being a petulant little child, he should’ve been ejected twice. Once for the kick, once for the incident with the ref.

    The Raiders have been struggling for YEARS and like a wounded animal trying to recover, they will snap at anything trying to do them wrong. The refs and the league have consistently failed the Raiders causing the Silver and Black the need to jab back every so often.

    The hit that took out Palmer was malicious and with intent to “knock him out”- the RAIDERS were just looking to return the favor.

    If you softies/PC/ participation trophy simpletons can’t understand that this is the nature of this extremely violent game, then the
    problem is with YOU.

  24. raiderapologist says: Dec 24, 2012 10:38 AM

    wisewoo says: Dec 24, 2012 10:18 AM

    Are they hormonal teenagers or a professional football team? Grow up, Raiders. Seriously. Its time.
    ———–
    You could say the same for Newton.

  25. r8rh8r says: Dec 24, 2012 10:45 AM

    The Jokeland Faiders.

    Pure class, every year. But you can get away with that lack of class with all those wins….Oh, wait. Nevermind…

  26. joetoronto says: Dec 24, 2012 11:35 AM

    There’s so many babies in this thread, it looks like a daycare.

    A bounty involves money, HELLO???

    Newton kicked Kelly, period. He should face a suspension, the spoiled brat.

  27. kattykathy says: Dec 24, 2012 12:08 PM

    @joetoronto

    INTENT TO INJURE = Part of Bountygate. In Roger Goodell’s own words

    Take out your Roger Goodell issued pacifier.

  28. slammincamnewton says: Dec 24, 2012 12:15 PM

    Saints called. They said pay up this week and they’ll take care of business. Oh wait, that D couldn’t dent a car. They’re softer than a pile of pillows.

  29. ron05342 says: Dec 24, 2012 12:36 PM

    Commitment to Excellence: 4-11 this season, 49-110 since 2002.

  30. kyotobg says: Dec 24, 2012 12:36 PM

    Mullman76, you call people softies and remind them of the violent nature of the game yet you claim Hardy’s hit was malicious???

    What’s malicious about burying your shoulder pads in a guy’s chest? You were probably also screaming for a flag on Cam Chancellor’s hit on Vernon Davis, right? Sounds like the problem is with YOU.

  31. mullman76 says: Dec 24, 2012 12:55 PM

    @kyoto- I have no problem with the hit on Carson, but it was malicious. The defender lead with his head. (from your comments it’s clear you didn’t watch the game)

    Therefore, I have no problem with the Raiders looking to return he favor with a couple malicious hits of their own. It’s a fast, hard hitting game, that’s why we watch.

    Plus, Cam deserves a couple hard hits for his tired spoiled child routine…

  32. mwm367 says: Dec 24, 2012 12:58 PM

    The hit on Palmer was nothing more than a good football hit. What in the hell is a defensive end supposed to do? He is running full speed trying to get to the guy with the ball. Palmer stopped and Hardy put his shoulder into Palmer’s mid section. Textbook tackling. So, Hardy is supposed to stop and tap him on the shoulder? Excuse me Mr Palmer, would you please fall down for me? I will applaud my defense every single time for a good, solid, clean hit like that. If Palmer can’t take the hits, then go the hell home!

  33. deshackle says: Dec 24, 2012 1:21 PM

    Take out Cam Newton? That’s every defense’s game plan. There’s a bounty on the head of every running quarterback in the NFL, and it has been in place since the days of Y. A. Tittle. The Panthers have to learn how to limit Cam’s exposure.

  34. war27 says: Dec 24, 2012 3:01 PM

    Drop your head and hit a QB and you’re getting flagged and fined. I’m OK with that.

    Dennis Allen was the DB coach for the Saints during the bounty BS.

    While he is saying one thing his actions on the sidelines tell the whole story. He didn’t get mad at Tommy Kelly on the sidelines, he praised him.

    When Des Bryant went after Newtons knee, which was plain to see no one asked him what he was doing/thinking. They praised him when he got to the sidelines, including Allen. Dennis Allen looks like he said something to him while give him a good job pat on the back when he came off the field.

  35. themagicfanguy says: Dec 24, 2012 4:23 PM

    @Katty You’re being foolish. Intent to injure is one thing, getting PAID to injure is another. Just lumping them together so you make some delusional troll statement about the NFL shows how ignorant you are.
    Also, we all know that you didn’t watch the SEA/GB game now. If you HAD watched that game, you would have seen one o the worst calls in the history of the game, no matter the final score.
    Shoo, troll.

  36. raiderapologist says: Dec 24, 2012 4:50 PM

    mwm367 says: Dec 24, 2012 12:58 PM

    The hit on Palmer was nothing more than a good football hit. What in the hell is a defensive end supposed to do? He is running full speed trying to get to the guy with the ball. Palmer stopped and Hardy put his shoulder into Palmer’s mid section. Textbook tackling. So, Hardy is supposed to stop and tap him on the shoulder? Excuse me Mr Palmer, would you please fall down for me? I will applaud my defense every single time for a good, solid, clean hit like that. If Palmer can’t take the hits, then go the hell home!
    ——-
    He can take the hits, and he did. And I would bet cash money he won’t whine about it, either. He was stupid for standing out there in right field with no blockers around, and he paid the price. I didn’t agree with the calls on Hardy, Kuechly, or Burris. Players can’t play any more.

  37. mullman76 says: Dec 24, 2012 5:02 PM

    @mwm7677: If you watched the game then you saw the defender CLEARLY lower his head and spear Palmer in the back.

  38. aboselli says: Dec 24, 2012 5:24 PM

    How very “Lomas Brown” of the Raiders.

  39. raiderapologist says: Dec 24, 2012 8:46 PM

    aboselli says: Dec 24, 2012 5:24 PM

    How very “Lomas Brown” of the Raiders.
    ————-
    Brown let his own quarterback get clipped. What you might have said is, “How very Ndamukong Suh of the Raiders”. Not to say that is accurate, either. Just closer to the truth.

  40. mazblast says: Dec 24, 2012 9:21 PM

    Pride and Poise.

    Commitment to Excellence.

    Just Win, Baby.

    Remember when those tacky phrases actually
    MEANT something, even for those of us who hated the Raiders?

  41. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Dec 24, 2012 9:46 PM

    After the mess we had with the Saints in Bounty Gate, I’m stunned a player would admit trying to take a player out. No one for the Panthers is saying they were trying to knock Palmer out of the game.

    Going to have to be some fines issued for this kind of talk.

  42. aboselli says: Dec 25, 2012 12:00 AM

    Both intended to have someone leave the game due to injury – the difference being Brown’s target was his own teammate.

    I wonder if the Lions O-line had a bounty on Mitchell back then like the Jets O-line had on McElroy. I hope they at least yelled “look out!”

  43. chazatlas says: Dec 25, 2012 6:10 AM

    If a player had admitted to intentionally trying to “take out” Brady, Peyton, Luck or RGIII, they would have already been suspended and fined.

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