Comments on: Jay Cutler would like stability at offensive coordinator

By: beefbus

beefbus — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:25:19 +0000

CKL says:
Dec 26, 2012 8:23 AM
pudgalvin says:
Dec 25, 2012 5:13 PM
Jay isn’t Tom Brady, but if he ever had an offensive line and a reasonable group of receivers and a consistant system he’d be a different player.
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Yes and no. When he was in Den, he had one of the best offensive scheme designers/playcallers, a stellar OL and excellent playmakers. He still threw a bunch of silly INTs.

Cutler has talent, but there’s something about his decision making that just isn’t right. I think one thing is he makes bad plays worse regardless of his surroundings. I am not sure if this is something that can be changed. Kind of reminds me of Carson Palmer that way. LOOKS like he should be an elite QB, seems to have every ability in the world, but something’s missing mentally. I don’t mean they are dumb, I mean they are missing a killer instinct or something.

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And you forgot to mention that he was an inexperienced player as well. Of course he would continue to make mistakes, but every QB throws picks, etc. Take a look at Eli Manning. He’s supposedly an elite QB, but he’s thrown the most picks since he arrived in the league.

By: beefbus

beefbus — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:05:33 +0000

His sentiments are the same as every starting QB in this league. It’s a pretty good excuse when you can say you’ve played in three different systems in four years. In addition to that huge disadvantage, playing with one of the worst O-lines in the league and very sub par receivers.

Dirk and KattyKathy couldn’t be more wrong.

By: tooba2026

tooba2026 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:58:41 +0000

Desperately seek validation for what? The bears not being a good team? i think thats pretty obvious

By: eightandeightlions

eightandeightlions — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:26:32 +0000

One comment I would like to make..

Packer fans are stupid, they hang out in all of the Bears’ stories and forums and spout all their non-factual nonsense as if anyone cares.

I have never visited a Packer forum, not have I commented on a Packer story, not worth my time.

Why is it that the Packer fans seek validation so desperately?

By: dirkdeez

dirkdeez — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 18:07:03 +0000

Kattykathy is right and all you guys who think like me maybe it isn’t the OC well I know it isn’t the OC so come on. Jay Cutler is always quick too place the blame on every teammate beside him self. So should we complain as fans that he holds the ball for three seconds longer than he should and can’t find a reciever because he’s lock on to one. Yes we should he gives us this impression as if he has Aaron Roger skills which we all know he’s not even close so come on. Jay should be lucky his job isn’t in jeopardy.

By: tooba2026

tooba2026 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:51:24 +0000

The OC would like some consistency from their QB! Didn’t hear any of this crap from him when they started out 7-1! An offensive line isn’t going to stop him from throwing the ball to the other team. Rodgers doesnt have the best line either< he just holds onto the ball too long sometimes and gets sacked. At least the other team doesnt end up with the ball that way.

By: bm120742

bm120742 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 16:38:51 +0000

Please, not one more word about that doofus Aaron Rodgers. He’s no Brett Favre (and I still haven’t forgiven Ted Thompson for kicking Brett out of GB). Rodgers is a stiff and the reason I now root for Bears. What the Packers did to Brett was unforgivable. If he came back, he (and Jay) would be better than ARod.

By: farmmbig

farmmbig — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 15:59:07 +0000

One again– Jay Cutler looks around and points fingers instead of simply looking in the mirror.

I fail to understand how this guy gets so much hype.

By: iffybiz

iffybiz — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 14:27:14 +0000

There are some QB’s who need very little to be successful. Some can only be successful if they have great coaching and players around them. Some just don’t have it in them to be successful period.
To me Jay is in the second group. Give him the OL, WR and coaching and he will shine.
Problem is that he hasn’t had any of that since Denver.
While consistancy is important, having the mindset of the team toward building a great offense is more important. That will never happen under Lovie and Tice. Time for another change.
BTW, the Packer fans saying they lost their OC…PLEASE who are you kidding. Your head coach is your OC in everything but name and has been since he was hired.

By: CKL

CKL — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:23:04 +0000

pudgalvin says:
Dec 25, 2012 5:13 PM
Jay isn’t Tom Brady, but if he ever had an offensive line and a reasonable group of receivers and a consistant system he’d be a different player.
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Yes and no. When he was in Den, he had one of the best offensive scheme designers/playcallers, a stellar OL and excellent playmakers. He still threw a bunch of silly INTs.

By: chi01town

chi01town — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:13:25 +0000

Cutler needs an offensive Coordinator with a 2013 system a new Offensive minded head coach and a young big O-line to protect him. he has the weapons Forte.. Marshall..Jeffery.. And Hester. Emery the fans belive in you in Chicago

By: prmpft

prmpft — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:09:57 +0000

he would also like a nice pink dress and some high heels…

By: tg1896

tg1896 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:26:27 +0000

I get so tired of people dragging out the “he’s not an elite QB” argument for everyone other than Peyton, Brady or Rodgers. Guess what? MOST NFL teams don’t have an elite QB. I guess we should just let the Broncos, Pats, and Packers play a three-team round robin for five months.

I’m not a Bears fan. Cutler’s comments are 100% accurate and would be echoed by any honest QB (even the “elite” ones).

By: lennydpocketqb

lennydpocketqb — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 06:10:07 +0000

Who would have thought that Big Ben, Eli, Tom Brady, and Drew Bress were going to be the champions of this era? Two of these yabos started as Chargers players and on was what a 6th rounder. LMAO!!!!

By: neon88m

neon88m — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:53:57 +0000

An QB is only as good as his receivers core, OL giving him time or design plays that allows him roll out and buy time. The Bears plays calling is so predictable and slow and OL can’t open hole for Forte but they consistently have him running up the middle?

By: weedman8693

weedman8693 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:42:22 +0000

I respect jay, im a broncos fan and when he was our qb man he was good.. His last season with the broncos he was only sacked 13 times. Had a good season just a horrible defense at the time. I hope cutler gets what he wants, a new o-line and new coaching staff.

By: kingcrusher

kingcrusher — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 02:51:36 +0000

I feel for the guy. As a QB, the last thing you want is to be constantly switching OCs. It’s almost like they force the QB to look bad by constantly having them learn a new playbook. Look at Alex Smith. Same situation. Everyone gets down on him, and then when he does get some stability, he puts up fantastic numbers and gets a game away from the Super Bowl.
So, Cutler, my advice is to keep your head up, keep plugging away, and if you are having a great year, never tell them you have a concussion!

By: jaggedmark

jaggedmark — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 02:20:47 +0000

And the coaches would like stability in Jay Cutler’s play.

By: ronin36

ronin36 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 02:12:30 +0000

Two points..

Lovie Smith is in a bad spot. Like he was last year and the year before. His coaching job was tenous at best, so he couldn’t lure any good OC to come and coach what could likely be a 1-year deal.

Even though nobody ever said it. Mike Martz was likely far down the list of possible candidates, but he was the only one desparate enough to take the job. Mike Tice was the same last year.

2nd point:

If I remember right, Chicago gave up a few draft picks to get Cutler. And it has cost them. Now that they’ve paid off that debt, they can start building again.

It wouldn’t take but a couple good players (on the o-line, maybe a WR too) to get the offense to improve. Granted they need to start restocking defense too.. but the defense wouldn’t have to be perfect if the offense could score a bit more… or at least eat up the clock so the D got some rest.

By: snaponrules

snaponrules — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:47:42 +0000

shaggytoodle says:Dec 25, 2012 2:25 PM

Against the Packers before halftime Cutler threw a pick that was a target for Hester.

If I saw a college player make that poor of a decision I would figure he stinks.

Not an NFL QB, then Cutler just mopes to the sideline the dude is tough physically, he just gets rattled too easy emotionally.
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I think its great that you bring up that play. Because that one play shows exactly what he has to work with. A punt returner they keep trying to force into a WR role. A role he has yet to figure out in YEARS of trying.
That play was supposed to be a 12 yard stop route. Watch the play again, when hester hits the 10 yard mark Cutler turns the ball loose. Hester turns and goes UPFIELD instead of back to the ball. Cutler gets the INT and gets mad, Hester hangs his head because he KNEW he messed up.
he targets BM all the time because its the only WR he can trust to run the right route. Or at least knock the ball down when he doesnt.

By: tokyosandblaster

tokyosandblaster — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:29:12 +0000

I’ll admit that Rodgers holds on to the ball too long at times.

But he doesn’t make stupid throws when he’s under pressure, like Jay.

By: illiniftw

illiniftw — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:14:47 +0000

Just because Rodgers has been sacked more doesn’t mean his line is worse. If you look at average time until sacked it shows Rodgers holds the ball too long.

By: schmokes

schmokes — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:41:55 +0000

Bears fans love their excuses.

It’s the o-line…..Rodgers has been sacked more than Cutler, and the pack still won the division and swept the bears.

It’s the injuries….Packers have had more injuries, and they won the division and swept the bears.

It’s a new O-coordinator….Packers lost their O coordinator to the Dolphins, and they won the division and swept the bears.

anything else?

By: boyshole25

boyshole25 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:32:40 +0000

Cutler can do it with norv

By: lynx79

lynx79 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:26:54 +0000

Any team that has fired Mike Martz has suffered. Tice was known for stupid decisions when he was the Vikings head coach. No surprise Tice disappoints this yr.
Before the Bears it was one of the worst coaches in NFL history, Mike Singletary, who fired Martz. 49ers had to fire Martz’s replacement after only the third game of the 2010 season (elderly Jimmy Raye).
Before the Bears it was the Lions who fired Martz. Yr after elderly Rod Marinelli canned Martz, Rod “pounded the rock” all the way to 0-16!
Before the Lions it was the Rams. Rams openly talked of how they were looking for a different offensive philosophy (hired Linehan).Rams last winning season was 2004, Martz’s last full yr as head coach.
Media decided yrs ago that Martz was their whipping boy, the facts show he improved every team he has been with.

By: flakey54hornung

flakey54hornung — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 00:16:48 +0000

I do get somewhat traumatized when I watch Cutler play, then sulk, then blame, and finally wimp out of the game. To be fair, he’s all you have, so I can see why you pin your hopes on him. He has not been, nor will he ever be, an elite QB. Backup or game manager at best, and this is only if he learns not to “sissify” his game.

By: larryboodry

larryboodry — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:44:47 +0000

olv65 says: Dec 25, 2012 6:30 PM

“Bring back Orton.”

Put down the eggnog.

By: larryboodry

larryboodry — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:31:17 +0000

flakey54hornung says: Dec 25, 2012 5:40 PM

“Hey, Mom, can you pick me up from school early? I have a hangnail and I don’t want to play after school with the tough guys.” I think the word is “sissy”.
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Thank you for giving us a glimpse into your childhood…It must have been very traumatic for you.

By: olv65

olv65 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:30:16 +0000

Bring back Orton.

By: maxpower44

maxpower44 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 23:02:14 +0000

Alex Smith said to call him when you hit OC #7.