Comments on: Man killed in shooting at bar where Seahawks celebrated win

By: sweetnlow44

sweetnlow44 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:33:28 +0000

The write up of this story here is a little misleading. It wasn’t an organized team celebration party like this write up would lead to belive. There were a few players there, not the whole team, but they were in a different part of the club and weren’t involved in the shooting whatsoever.

The most egregious part of this story that was omitted in this write up is that this isn’t the first time the suspected shooter has killed someone. He was 1 of 3 minors who beat to death the tuba man a few years back. Tuba man was a homeless man who was well known in Seattle for playing his tuba outside of sporting events. But because the kid was a minor at the time, he served less than a year in juvy and has been causing trouble ever since. Now he’s killed again. forget gun control, we need to hold teenagers accountable for grisly crimes and make sure they learn their lesson.

this kid has gotten away lightly with murder before. He doesn’t deserve a 3rd chance.

By: randallflagg52

randallflagg52 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:40:49 +0000

otis52gsh says:
Dec 25, 2012 7:49 AM
Funny how constant issues follow Carroll. Maybe he is the common denominator.

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This may be the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen on PFT.

By: urcrap

urcrap — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 01:40:48 +0000

Freedom to live in fear of being shot to death by paranoid fanatical lunatics who have equal ease of access to both their weapons of choice and their victims too. The more I listen to people talk about their right to “bear arms” the more I dislike them. It’s a smoke screen to hide their personal paranoia and passive aggressiveness that eventually erupts and ends in one rage filled tragedy or another!

By: maxl49

maxl49 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:55:00 +0000

Seahawks celebrating like they won the Superbowl !
One and done !

By: voyager6

voyager6 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:21:25 +0000

So I guess the Seahawks were in the VIP room with the ‘barmaids’.

By: 13curtjp

13curtjp — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:59:29 +0000

To the people thinking gun control laws will prevent these crimes, you are mistaken. Do you really believe that by banning firearms, criminals won’t find a way to get them? Guess what. They will. Do you know why? Because they are criminals! Drugs are illegal. Has that stopped anyone from using? No…in fact its become a billion dollar black market industry! The same would happen with a firearms ban. We’ve become a zero accountability society. It’s always something or someone else’s fault. The morality of this country has become so low that it’s sickening. And that’s the real problem that needs to be addressed.

By: xxwhodatxx

xxwhodatxx — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:14:01 +0000

nyyjetsknicks says:
Dec 25, 2012 12:37 AM
NRA: everyone in that bar needs a gun. Also, we need to have armed volunteers to provided security. This is not a gun problem, this all happened because of the NFL and television.

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Says the guy from New York, why don’t you stick to worrying about how big your soft drinks are or how much salt you put on your food and let the rest of the mostly free people decide what to do with guns.

By: uschawk

uschawk — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:04:14 +0000

Are you serious Otis? You are blaming Carroll? He wasnt even there. I guess if someone gets shot in the state of Washington then Carroll should be the first person interviewed by police. Oh and you are a huge idiot.

By: 4sacroc

4sacroc — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:27:29 +0000

Munchbar … This, I recall, is a spin-off from Peter Griffin’s “House of Munch.”

By: Legion Of Boom

Legion Of Boom — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:21:45 +0000

Is this the same place where Hamlin got the brain injury from that nut with the street sign?

By: northbynw27

northbynw27 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:03:50 +0000

Seattle residents will know the answer to this one is easy..keep night clubs out of Bellevue.

By: jpb12

jpb12 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:41:54 +0000

NRA was handing out guns at the door. Everybody be safer that way.

By: otis52gsh

otis52gsh — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:49:18 +0000

Funny how constant issues follow Carroll. Maybe he is the common denominator.

By: lostone49

lostone49 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:27:28 +0000

What is a 19 year old doing in the bar anyways? I was still being carded in my late 30′s and I do look my age.

By: mtheparrothead

mtheparrothead — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:13:25 +0000

It’s the guns fault, not this 19 year old idiots. Got it.

By: stacks04

stacks04 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:02:27 +0000

Yes you guys are right. Its all the guns fault. How about we address the poverty problem, the unemployment problem, the gang problem, the drug problem, the mental health problem. i think then you might find the real reasons why theses things are happening.

By: joetoronto

joetoronto — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:13:09 +0000

Football is a great game, but it’s only a game.

Some people lose all perspective.

By: chazatlas

chazatlas — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:58:53 +0000

illuminati

By: shoeflypie

shoeflypie — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:36:17 +0000

@Cowboy Eric
Your last line has an interesting corollary: as if yet another law against murder, or another statute against guns is going to stop someone intent on mayhem from barging in and killing someone.

By: thrillheaux

thrillheaux — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 09:08:24 +0000

Pac Man still plays for the Bengals, right?

By: cawood68

cawood68 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 08:04:28 +0000

As a registered gun owner and life long hunter it’s not the guns that continue to kill people it’s the idiots that pull the trigger.

By: vman0626

vman0626 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:55:40 +0000

The Second Amendment and its judicial interpretations has trumped all our other rights, like Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
We amended our Constitution to include the Second Amendment, we can amend it again to remove or modify the Second Amendment to better reflect modern society and modern weapon technologies.
Unless we make significant changes we will be attending more vigils for the slaughter of innocents.

By: mullman76

mullman76 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:53:03 +0000

Horrible.

By: wolfmanpatriot

wolfmanpatriot — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:43:32 +0000

Seahawks are celebrating wins by drinking?
Can you say one and done?!

By: derek1800

derek1800 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:27:53 +0000

I have been to this bar many times especially when the Seahawks were present as I lived right down the street. The sad thing is this is the only place where I seen stationed police officers inside due to Bellevue having a lot of money and not wanting to turn into Belltown. Glad I moved to San Diego.

By: elguapo12

elguapo12 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:14:07 +0000

In anticipation of the geniuses who say more people are killed by cars…that may be true, but you’re not going to run me over in the middle of a crowded bar 10 seconds after a perceived insult. If you can’t tell the difference in intent between a car and a gun, you shouldn’t be allowed to operate either.

By: chrismatthewsucks

chrismatthewsucks — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 07:09:10 +0000

Bill Clinton answer was also armed guards after columbine…. But no one remembers that.

By: chawk12thman

chawk12thman — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:51:17 +0000

It has been said many times about parties and staying out late night for team members; “Nothing good happens after midnight.” Good rule to follow for general curfew guideline. At least until end of playoff run.

By: jusjamn

jusjamn — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:39:41 +0000

Responsible media would go a long way to solving this problem!

By: rickc402

rickc402 — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:29:32 +0000

Here is your answer: Personal Responsabilty, when the cops catch this guy, and build a case it needs to be heard by a jury of his peers and if found guilty he needs to be put to death. There is zero accountability in our nation. Drugs, sure Gay Marriage, why not Violence and Sex on TV all hours of the day, it’s ok. Wake up it’s not the gun it’s our culture. Every man in Switzerland is required by law to own an automatic rifle and be part of a “minute-man army”. Us we just have enough 18 year olds to feed to the machine and forget about. Bring back the draft. You want welfare, pick up trash along a highway, something. Personal Responsabilty try some it’s the ADULT thing to do.