Comments on: AFC, NFC Pro Bowl rosters

By: annes22

annes22 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:55:08 +0000

Wrong Pouncy in, it should be Mike not Maurice.
Gronkowski shouldn’t be in he has been hurt half the season, that’s ridiculous.
The voting is a big joke, there has to be a better way of doing this. It’s called “scrub” the whole event.
Some of the best players, have been left home.

By: 8to80texansblog

8to80texansblog — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:48:18 +0000

I’m not sure if this has been mentioned but, the 2 win Chiefs have more ProBowlers than the Falcons…. I’m no Falcons fan but…

My Texans have 8 which is great and none of the selections or starting status surprise me except for maybe J. Jo. Think that he made it on rep, actually Kareem actually had a better year.

By: wludford

wludford — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 03:33:16 +0000

Looking at the team I follow- the Vikings- I think Pro Bowl selection should be based on empirical evidence- stats- as a primary factor. Voting should be the least weighted, and coaching/league selections the second-highest weighting.

For example, Jared Allen made the pro-bowl, despite having a so-so year, based on reputation and previous pro-bowl selections.

On the other hand, guys like OLB Chad Greenway (who I understand is an alternate) did not make the Pro Bowl despite leading the league (or nearly so) in tackles for any position. Rookie LT Matt Kalil only had one sack all year attributed to him, but did not make the pro-bowl (again I think he is an alternate), which also does not make sense.

I think the selection process for Kickers is more empirical, (FG %, long FG %, Touchback %) so a rookie like Blair Walsh made the team no problem based on clear stat superiority. That’s the way it should be for other positions as well.

How do guys like Jeff Saturday get in? Or Victor Cruz? Both have had good seasons in the past, but not this year.

This is the information age. And the NFL has stats on every nuance of every position. That should be the primary factor that decides who makes the Pro Bowl and who doesn’t. In some cases there is some qualitative factors that influence between two players with similar stats that can be decided by coaches/league/experts and to a lesser extent by fans, but that’s it.

As far as Pro Bowl ballots go, they should be limited to the top 5 or so players statistically at each position, and those stats should be in big numbers that are easy to compare across the list.

By: darthraven887

darthraven887 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 00:37:41 +0000

I feel bad for Justin Tucker, Richard Sherman, Alfred Morris, and Demaryius Thomas, they all got snubbed.

By: finsuppatsdown

finsuppatsdown — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 20:34:20 +0000

Mike Pouncey is the best center in the AFC. His brother is just more well known. Jeff Sat is an absolutely crazy selection… he just got benched. Fans should not vote for the Pro Bowl. (I know that is not the only factor).

By: romo2dez88

romo2dez88 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 19:15:04 +0000

Dez> Roddy White. Not saying career wise, because Roddy White is an incredibly decorated receiver. But right now, Dez is only behind Calvin Johnson as the most explosive dynamic receiver in the league

By: bmadccp

bmadccp — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:43:04 +0000

The pro-bowl only exists to be a quick fix for NFL fans in post-season withdrawal. It’s why such a spectacle is made of the draft and mini-camps as well. What we need is a 50 game season to ensure that no man ever gets anything done at home on weekends.

By: jdubkc

jdubkc — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 15:11:08 +0000

When was the last time a team had more Pro Bowl picks than wins? (5 vs. 2) Chief’s have horrible coaching and an even worse GM. Justin Houston should make it 6 PB’rs for the Chiefs!

By: blackout81

blackout81 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:49:11 +0000

They must have forgotten about that guy in New Orleans , I think his name is……Drew Brees…. Yea that’s it

By: Mad Ox

Mad Ox — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 14:01:42 +0000

Peterson & Morris got snubbed.

By: bengalsucker

bengalsucker — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:51:15 +0000

Congrats to Geno and A.J! But like others have said, Whitworth got screwed again. Dude is pure class and easily one of the best O-linemen in the league. Gets snubbed every year. Shouldn’t be an alternate at all. Definitely first pick pro-bowl caliber.

By: packermilitia

packermilitia — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:20:51 +0000

No wonder the players don;t take the game seriously…….ok it’s a vacation but even still, this has to contribute.

By: robf2010

robf2010 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:35:52 +0000

“They’d likely throw fewer pick sixes”

They’d likely throw more. That game’s easy.

“By the way, some of the stats you cited were the result of falling hopelessly behind in so many games and trying frantically to pad his stats in garbage time.”

More silliness. They were on the downside of garbage time against the Giants and Broncos but not until late in the 4th quarter. They were on the upside of garbage time against the Raiders, Eagles, and Bucs but he was pulled in those games. There is no stat-padding in the NFL. Offensive players gets paid to do their job. Defensive players get paid to stop them. There’s no crying in football, either.

By: iceburgskin202

iceburgskin202 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:00:47 +0000

Stats or otherwise Bryant is the biggest snub Cruz has no business being on the roster. I’m a skins fan but fair is fair and Bryant balled out this year and deserved the nod.

By: mmcdan133

mmcdan133 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:46:39 +0000

Eric Berry is a below average safety coasting on his pre-draft hype and SEC status. Ask anyone who watches every Chiefs game. He is not a playmaker.

Byrd-71 TKLS, 5 INT and 4 FF.
Weddle-89 TKLS, 3 INT, 2 FF.
Berry-80 TKLS, 1 INT, 0 FF.

Yet Berry makes it and STARTS. Hilarious.

By: txnative61

txnative61 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 08:26:31 +0000

A lot of complaints, but everybody knows its an irrelevant beauty contest. A lot of others will actually play after multiple hangnails and many of the very best are out to play in the Superbowl. I like the NFC running backs—Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, and Frank Gore are all likely Hall of Famers, and one of them is probably headed to the Superbowl. Seeing any two of them run could alone make the game worth watching.

By: vltrophy14

vltrophy14 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:52:30 +0000

R. Cobb & J. Jones should’ve made it. But then part of the voting is a popularity contest

By: hjworton46

hjworton46 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:21:30 +0000

Also: it ain’t just about the stats.

By: hjworton46

hjworton46 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:14:13 +0000

It’s about time public votes were removed completely from pro bowl voting. Some truly idiotic choices here, as usual.

By: steviaquinn

steviaquinn — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:08:12 +0000

With all these niners playing on defense, the AFC should put up 120 points. These guys have been murdered recently. the most overrated defense in the history of the game.

By: willowy2k

willowy2k — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:39:52 +0000

LB Wesley Woodyard and WR Demaryious Thomas of the Broncos

By: defscottyb

defscottyb — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:24:38 +0000

The NFL just wants to see the biggest names in the Pro Bowl for ratings. They don’t care if the best players that year play in the game. As long as the “names” are there. It’s all about ratings and $.

By: goldenperspective

goldenperspective — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:51:05 +0000

Gerald McCoy makes it but no Suh..,…,… love it!

By: blackqbwhiterb

blackqbwhiterb — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:08:21 +0000

I think London Fletcher and Will Montgomery from the Redskins belong in this year’s Pro Bowl…. But all i REALLY care about is that they beat Dallas

By: dt58

dt58 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:03:16 +0000

I agree that the Pro Bowl is kinda a joke but I love you guys that throw out stats like that’s the most important thing. Do you watch football or just read about it on the internet from your parents basement? Look how a player like Deion Sanders impacted the game. He never had great stats because no one dare throw his way. So, by your thinking he never should’ve made the PB. Not all about stats folks

By: bradseattle

bradseattle — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:02:39 +0000

How does Russel Wilson not make it. And Richard Sherman. Wilson has started every game while RG3 hasnt, and has more touchdowns than RG3

By: vikingcross

vikingcross — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 05:02:18 +0000

AP is about to go over 2k yards and at least has a chance to break the record and not one member of the Vikings O-Line? And Clay Mathews?? What about the leagues tackle leader?

By: bluebongzilla

bluebongzilla — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:59:53 +0000

Bryant got gypped. More catches, more yards, more yards per catch, more TDs than Cruz.

By: beastmode5150

beastmode5150 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:57:24 +0000

#1 D in league vs top 5 hardest schedule and there is 1 Seahawk on the team. What a joke…

By: yevrag3535

yevrag3535 — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 04:56:41 +0000

stop this so called game. it SUCKS well before it starts….