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Chancellor says he hasn’t been fined yet for Davis hit

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On Sunday, Seahawks safety Kam Chancellor applied a wicked hit to 49ers tight end Vernon Davis.  It gave Davis a concussion, and it resulted in a flag being thrown on Chancellor.

In the days since Sunday, plenty of you have asked whether Chancellor has been fined.  Earlier tonight, Chancellor said on Twitter that he hasn’t been fined, yet.  “I haven’t received a fine for all the 12′s and people that were wondering,” Chancellor said.  “Tryin to do things the right way.”

As to Davis, Chancellor thinks he did the right thing.  “All chest shot,” Chancellor said.  “Stevie Wonder seen it.”

He’s right.  The flag was thrown because the officials are told to err on the side of protecting players.  And as NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos consistently has explained, the officials realize that throwing a flag in a case where it’s ultimately not a foul is better than not throwing the flag and having the tape show that it was.

For the former, the official won’t be downgraded.  For the latter, he will be.

In Chancellor’s case, the flag was thrown.  The fine likely won’t follow — especially since these fines typically are issued by Wednesday.

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61 Responses to “Chancellor says he hasn’t been fined yet for Davis hit”
  1. seatownballers says: Dec 27, 2012 11:08 PM

    Nor should he be fined!
    He lead with his shoulder. It connected with Davis’chest. Be fair nfl

  2. 13fitzj says: Dec 27, 2012 11:10 PM

    That’s because it was totally legal.

  3. bishop1025 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:11 PM

    Kamtrack leveled Vernon. Still doesn’t know where he is.

  4. snap0179 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:13 PM

    It was a good football hit

  5. ilovefoolsball says: Dec 27, 2012 11:15 PM

    He shouldn’t be fined it was a perfectly clean and legal hit. I saw a video of Jimmy Graham getting lit up in that exact same manner against the Bucs (except that Davis got jacked up worse) and there wasn’t even a flag thrown.

    The violence of the hit shouldn’t be a factor it should only matter when and how the player is hit.

  6. kylexitron says: Dec 27, 2012 11:16 PM

    Clean hit.

    If you want to fine anyone for it fine kaepernick for throwing the ball too late for Davis to get to the pylon, instead hesitating just long enough for Kam to blast him.

    It’s too bad we are talking about whether or not it was a clean hit rather than talking about what a great play it was.

    Oh well. The penalty didn’t work out so well for the Niners anyways.

  7. jshawaii22 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:22 PM

    The problem isn’t the hit, it’s the flag(s) — 3 of them, for a 100% perfectly legal hit.

    If they are going to throw flags on every good hit, The NFL will have to allow a coach to throw a ‘red flag’ and have the call go under the hood. That should of been reviewable and the flag overturned.

    Following that play, Cam pulled back on two more ‘hits’ and basically ran by the plays. Who can blame him?

    When it happens in the playoffs and affects the outcome, what then?

    js

  8. torontofalcon says: Dec 27, 2012 11:29 PM

    They shouldnt throw flags for helmet or late hits unless they’re blatant and malicious. Just fine the players after it happens, you still get the point across.

  9. macdaddyspeed says: Dec 27, 2012 11:31 PM

    Behold the birth of new empire. An empire as strong as it is swift. An empire that will strike fear in the hearts of it’s opponents. Behold the birth of the Seahawks Empire and the Legion of BOOM!!!

  10. kingpel says: Dec 27, 2012 11:34 PM

    Clean hit and devastating. Wow.

  11. facebookuser111 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:35 PM

    I am all for the flags being thrown at first. But why not go to replay and actually validate it. I know the downside of that is yet another break in action but most plays with hard hits end up with injury time outs anyway. If they actually picked up some flags by deeming some hits legal it would do a lot to promote safety.

    As I see it you would either have option A) Leave it as it is, and players feel that they will get flagged 50% of the time no matter what they do so might as well just clobber someone.

    Or

    Option B) Go to a review and if the hit is legal pick up the flag and players feel like if they hit someone legally even if a flag is thrown they will be rewarded.

    I realize this is unlikely mostly because reviewing penalties is a murky line to cross.

  12. kingpel says: Dec 27, 2012 11:36 PM

    macdaddyspeed says:Dec 27, 2012 11:31 PM

    Behold the birth of new empire. An empire as strong as it is swift. An empire that will strike fear in the hearts of it’s opponents. Behold the birth of the Seahawks Empire and the Legion of BOOM!!!
    …………………………………………………………………….

    The Legion of BOOM?

    Back to the drawing board you neon wearing dork.

  13. calicokiller49 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:43 PM

    hit was clean, no doubt. but you knew it was gonna get called, seahag fans wouldve been calling for a flag, if it was a niner db lighting up one of your wrs ( what are their names again ? ) dont worry, hopefully donte whitner gets a ” clean shot ” in on one of em soon…….

  14. themackstrong says: Dec 27, 2012 11:44 PM

    kingpel says: Dec 27, 2012 11:36 PM

    The Legion of BOOM?

    ————————————–

    Maybe some people live under a rock or don’t watch football games. Legion of Boom is nickname for Kam, Sherman, Thomas and Browner that is secondary for NFL’s # 1 ranked defense.

  15. facebookuser111 says: Dec 27, 2012 11:47 PM

    Legion of Boom is a thing.

  16. blackandbluedivision says: Dec 27, 2012 11:55 PM

    If anybody has actually listened to the ref. The flag was thrown for “hit on a defenseless receiver.” Not helmet to helmet, shoulder to helmet. It was a hit on a defenseless receiver. Which he was.

  17. zengreaser says: Dec 27, 2012 11:56 PM

    The thing that cracks me up is that, in my opinion, a flag is more costly in the sense of winning a game than a fine is to a player’s paycheck. It’s ridiculous that 15-yard penalties and automatic first downs are handed out as the result of text book tackles. It’s not an issue in this case because the Seahawks won, but these phony penalties are going to cost teams that play legal, hardnose football down the line eventually.

  18. bleedburgandyandgold says: Dec 27, 2012 11:57 PM

    That was a fantastic hard brutal legal hit and its one of the reasons to watch the game clean hits that light the opponent up and knock the lights out!

  19. ceadderman says: Dec 28, 2012 12:03 AM

    Of course he won’t be fined. The League owes Seattle and his name isn’t Dashawn Goldson.

  20. macdaddyspeed says: Dec 28, 2012 12:05 AM

    Back to the drawing board you neon wearing dork.

    ——————————————————–

    Would be unbelievers, your ignorance matters not, for the rise of the Seahawks Empire is upon us. The Legion is out there; lurking, hunting, preparing to inflict their ubiquitous fulmination upon the groveling souls of those that would invade their territory. Yes, the Legion of Boom has arrived. The Seahawks Empire will cast it’s shadow upon all. Unbelievers, you will stand in awe.

  21. nickprzy2 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:12 AM

    Neon wearing dork huh? Your the douche who dosent know about the legion of boom

  22. west4420 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:16 AM

    yet another blown call by the NFL Refs. The call was for a hit on a defenseless receiver. It is unfortunate that the rule is written where you have to let the receiver catch the ball. This is not real football.

    For gods sake just take 5 seconds to review whether it was a headshot and call down to the field to tell them to administer the penalty or pick up the flag.

    What’s with the league fining guys for penalties that they already get called for on the field?

  23. pickney1 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:16 AM

    I agree he should not be fined, but then I dont understand why Ed Reed may be fined for a not that was not aganist a defenseless player nor with it a dirty hit.

  24. pacificnw7722 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:32 AM

    That’s right, Legion of BOOM coming to a stadium near you!!!!!

  25. Stiller43 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:38 AM

    If theyre downgraded for missing the call one way and not the other, im sorry but thats idiotic.

  26. wallykarue says: Dec 28, 2012 12:42 AM

    Kam partially fell victim to his reputation. It’s essentially a “boy who cried wolf” type situation.

  27. contraisloosebuthole says: Dec 28, 2012 12:43 AM

    No one takes Seattle seriously outside Seattle.

  28. bobhk says: Dec 28, 2012 1:33 AM

    Dec 27, 2012 11:44 PM
    kingpel says: Dec 27, 2012 11:36 PM

    The Legion of BOOM?

    ————————————–

    Maybe some people live under a rock or don’t watch football games. Legion of Boom is nickname for Kam, Sherman, Thomas and Browner that is secondary for NFL’s # 1 ranked defense.
    ——–
    maybe this team should win a Super Bowl or two before self proclaiming themselves. for good example, see doomsday D (I am not even a cow patties) fan.

  29. fcrraptor720 says: Dec 28, 2012 1:44 AM

    Bull crap if he gets fined. Part of being a TE is you take the bigger hits cause your big

  30. dkrauss93 says: Dec 28, 2012 1:52 AM

    I even think NFL officials KNOW that was as clean as hit as you can do. Well I hope so.

  31. montrealraider says: Dec 28, 2012 1:56 AM

    That hit was so perfect it struck me as a form of art when I looked at it in slow motion.

    The way the officials are asked to work is detrimental to the game. They should err on the opposite side during games (let the players play). Then during the week the league office can review whatever it wants and lay down warnings, fines, suspensions, etc. The B.S. 15 yards dont do any good to the player that was hit and take away from the integrity and excitement of the game. Heavy fines and escalating punishement for legitimate illegal hits will get the message across much better.

    The way they do it now also confuses players and make them go out of their way to do stupid things. For example our friend Kam here later in the game was looking like he was playing TOUCH football on Celek (the 49ers backup TE), allowing him an easy catch and run for 20+ yards. Much worst, in the Bengals/Steelers game it was I believe Reggie Nelson who blasted Heat Miller in the knees and busted his ACL!…

    Its just insane and it has to stop. Goodell, you are hurting the game and putting players at risk right now more then anything. Be hard about safety OK, but be fair and be clear.

  32. enmity01 says: Dec 28, 2012 2:39 AM

    calicokiller49 says:
    Dec 27, 2012 11:43 PM
    hit was clean, no doubt. but you knew it was gonna get called, seahag fans wouldve been calling for a flag, if it was a niner db lighting up one of your wrs ( what are their names again ? ) dont worry, hopefully donte whitner gets a ” clean shot ” in on one of em soon…….

    ——–

    Yea you must not of seen them when your defense was being scored on at will. Don’t remember the circus catch by Baldwin, or maybe toe tap catch in the end zone by Baldwin. Maybe the Sidney Rice catch .. or oh, the other Baldwin catch in the end zone.

    Even Lynch scored on a receiving touch down. I’m sorry you didn’t take notice, but that’s generally what 49ers fans do. If you deny it happened, then it didn’t happen, right?

  33. piemasteruk says: Dec 28, 2012 2:41 AM

    How is throwing a flag ‘protecting players’ in any way? If the player is hurt, he’ll still be hurt, just 15 yards further down the field. It’s not the like the yellow flags sprinkle magic healing dust over a player when they’re thrown.

  34. jeffesky says: Dec 28, 2012 2:47 AM

    nfl better get a handle on this cause look what happened to manningham. blew out his knee cause hill didnt take him out Goodell is a bit out of control with his touch football dreams I be thinkin.

  35. jeffpeabody says: Dec 28, 2012 2:53 AM

    Not that I agree with the personal foul call, but wasn’t this hit one of those “defenseless receiver” hits that they’ve liked to call the last couple of seasons? Why is this such a shocker to people? I’ve seen flags thrown on this multiple times on airborne receivers who get hit by a safety before the receiver lands on the ground.

  36. shootahcowboy says: Dec 28, 2012 3:21 AM

    If you’re going to call a specific personal foul like helmet-to-helmet, horse collar, or blow to the head, why not allow that to be reviewable? I’m not saying that all penalties should be reviewable, but where there are specifics like this, why not be able to take another look at it?

    In this case, the player was flagged for a completely clean hit. 15 yards and an automatic first down can be a game changer.

  37. joshtanney says: Dec 28, 2012 3:58 AM

    Shame that it resulted in an injury but it was a clean hit.

  38. mkdave23 says: Dec 28, 2012 4:32 AM

    So the league wants to make big hits, functionally, illegal. That’s essentially what telling the refs to err on the side of ‘protecting the players’ has come to.

  39. ialwayswantedtobeabanker says: Dec 28, 2012 5:10 AM

    “The flag was thrown because the officials are told to err on the side of protecting players. And as NBC officiating consultant Jim Daopoulos consistently has explained, the officials realize that throwing a flag in a case where it’s ultimately not a foul is better than not throwing the flag and having the tape show that it was.”

    - – - – - – - – - -

    Unfortunately, the mentality and resultant procedural guidelines described above are accurate.

    But a concern could be that policies in place like this give officials a free pass to “ERR” and in effect, comfortably, regularly and reflexively become “over-officious jerks.”

    How about the refs don’t get an unlimited supply of Get Out of Jail Free cards for such ERRORS?

    Blown calls like this can change the outcomes of games, and how it’s hashed out in hindsight on the following Thursday won’t put Humpty Dumpty together again.

  40. ripster65 says: Dec 28, 2012 5:47 AM

    49er fan here…and can’t see why he would be fined. Looked to be the picture perfect hit.

  41. ripster65 says: Dec 28, 2012 5:51 AM

    on another note…those obnoxious looking Oregon Ducks trial uni’s seriously need to go…

  42. boyshole25 says: Dec 28, 2012 6:07 AM

    Yet it’s ok for receivers to reach for the marker and get a free first down because they know if they are touched its another 15

  43. bmore44 says: Dec 28, 2012 8:43 AM

    Same hit Ed Reed put on Cruz. Smh

  44. cometkazie says: Dec 28, 2012 8:48 AM

    Too many reviews as it is.

  45. trollhammer20 says: Dec 28, 2012 9:52 AM

    Last year, Chancellor was called for several late hits and was fined on a couple of occasions. His teammates in the Seattle secondary had a few fines as well.

    This year, you can tell they’ve worked hard on refining their technique so they are administering hard shots within the rules. In fact, the only fine I can recall seeing anyone in the secondary receive is when Earl Thomas was fined for “roughing” Ryan Tannehill, which is as ticky-tack a “finable offense” as you will ever see.

  46. calicokiller49 says: Dec 28, 2012 10:28 AM

    Enmity01 who is denying anything, I’m fully aware of what happened last week, I watched every agonizing minute. It hurt. I said it was a clean hit, and that I hope whitner gets a chance to repay the favor. These Seahawks fans, are crazy, their team gets hot for 3 weeks, and all of a sudden they’re the greatest team in the history of the league……..

  47. waxthat says: Dec 28, 2012 11:01 AM

    Seahawks fans are awful.

  48. joe2jerry says: Dec 28, 2012 11:16 AM

    Don’t really want to get into the trash talking stuff today. In my opinion it was a clean hit. Having said that, Goldson got a late fine for that very hit last week and Ed Reed has gotten two now. The NFL fines here and there by some subjective measure so who knows, but if they stay consistent he’ll be fined whether he says so or not.

  49. steelerben says: Dec 28, 2012 11:21 AM

    At speed the hit looked like a kill shot. In slow motion you could tell it was clean. If I was a ref on the field I’d toss the flag, too. We all have the ability to look at the play over and over in super slow mo and can’t imagine how the refs might have gotten that one wrong. If Davis can’t stand up and doesn’t know when he is, let alone where he is, then you kind of make an assumption.

    It is good that the NFL hasn’t dropped a fine on this one, because the tape shows it was clean.

    We wouldn’t be seeing all these silly fines and penalties if it wasn’t for a group of grown men trying to sue the league because no one told them explicitly that multiple blows to the head are bad for you.

  50. praetorian12 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:02 PM

    The NFL needs to change its directives to its referees. Three flags on that legal hit. THREE!!! Stop flagging hits just because they are hard hits. It could have totally changed the outcome of that game. (Thankfully, it didn’t).

    It doesn’t get much cleaner (or harder) than Kam’s hit that knocked Vernon Davis into Thursday.

  51. officialfist says: Dec 28, 2012 12:11 PM

    It was a clean hit. I don’t understand the debate. I’m a Niner fan through and through and it was a thing of beauty. Seahawks thumped us good last Sunday and we deserved it. The Niners showed up completed unprepared and had no sense of urgency throughout the game. It was an excellent win by the Seahawks. You still were not good enough all year to win the division. Now go home and prepare for your gifted wildcard birth (Be sure to send a thank you letter to the replacement refs and the Packers) and hope you can play well on the road. I personally hope that road leads you right back to Candlestick so we can settle this for the 2012 season.

  52. liddogg33 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:26 PM

    Kam Bam DESTROYED Vernon LEGALLY!!!! And for everyone stating seattle should thank the replacement officials for getting into the playoffs here is a little nugget of truth for you… Seattle owns the tiebreaker against EVERY OTHER WILDCARD CONTENDER!!!! Even with one more loss they would still be in the drivers seat for the playoffs!!! And the Legion of BOOM is very real and very dangerous!!!! No matter how much hate you try and sprinkle on this team they are very much for real and will be around for a very long time.. And get those no superbowl wise cracks in while you can because very soon that will not be a statement you can make!!!

    GO HAWKS!!!!!

  53. shunye says: Dec 28, 2012 12:26 PM

    The way he hit him is not what the flag is for. The flag was for hitting a defenseless receiver, if you can’t see he was defenseless then you are blind. Goldson had a similar hit againt the patriots the week before and got a fine even though the hit was a shoulder to the sternum. this is a new rule to give the appearance that the nfl cares about player safety, just like the fines that always follow. He will be fined, it just hasn’t happened yet because its a holiday week.

  54. officialfist says: Dec 28, 2012 12:48 PM

    I’m still not wrong and caps lock doesn’t make your team better. Good luck in Washington.

  55. brysong says: Dec 28, 2012 12:50 PM

    shunye says:
    Dec 28, 2012 12:26 PM

    …He will be fined, it just hasn’t happened yet because its a holiday week.

    ____________________________

    Except for the fact that the NFL doesn’t take holidays off and they’ve already dished out fines for this week. Chancellor wasn’t on that list.

  56. liddogg33 says: Dec 28, 2012 12:58 PM

    Thank you for the good luck wishes!! Remember to be careful what you ask for. This is a vastly different team then the one that lost by 7 points at candlestick (even with 4 dropped passes,no Brandon Mebane, and a missed Haushka field goal).. And you and your “squad” saw what I mean by that last Sunday!!!!

    GO HAWKS!!!!!
    (looks so much better in caps)
    HAHAHAHAHA

  57. 88ibis says: Dec 28, 2012 1:16 PM

    Disclaimer: The opinions of obnoxious Seahawks fans on PFT boards do not represent the opinions of all Seahawk fans. Like every other fan base on this board, or anywhere in life, the obnoxious tend to draw the most attention to themselves.

    (Well okay, Philly fans may actually be that obnoxious, but it seems to be a point of pride with them. So kudos to Eagles fans.)

    Most of us in Seattle were hoping not to go 7-9 again this year, so the playoffs are a happy surprise. We are however pretty optimistic about the next 4-5 years!

  58. easymoneyjr says: Dec 28, 2012 1:20 PM

    “No one takes Seattle seriously outside Seattle.”

    This is perfect! Keep thinking this way. Then you can tell all your buddies we’re still terrible when you’re watching us the next week, after knocking your team out of the playoffs.

  59. officialfist says: Dec 28, 2012 2:10 PM

    liddogg33, I didn’t make any excuses of our loss last weekend. Don’t throw excuses out about losing to the Niners earlier in the season. I don’t care about dropped passes, missed field goals. Win the game, win the division, and win in the playoffs. We’ll see where we all are a month from now.

  60. 808ninerfan says: Dec 28, 2012 2:16 PM

    I am a huge 49er fan and I think that hit was clean as can be he was strung out by a high pass and was laid out by a clean hit. The dirty hit was on manningham but it is football and that’s why we watch. Good luck to them in the playoffs and hope to meet up for a exciting game in the playoffs

  61. mharjo says: Dec 28, 2012 3:28 PM

    blackandbluedivision says:
    Dec 27, 2012 11:55 PM
    If anybody has actually listened to the ref. The flag was thrown for “hit on a defenseless receiver.” Not helmet to helmet, shoulder to helmet. It was a hit on a defenseless receiver. Which he was.

    ———

    Correct, however you can hit a defenseless player in a legal way, which this was. There are three stipulations on what you cannot do:

    1. Cannot hit in the head or neck area
    2. Cannot hit with the crown of the tackler’s helmet
    3. Cannot launch off the ground

    As long as you tackle/hit without breaking any of those rules you’re good.

    It doesn’t matter if he was otherwise defenseless.

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