Comments on: Leaking cup helped Sherman avoid suspension

By: deltaoracle

deltaoracle — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:52:01 +0000

Anyway… does this count as looking at the cup being half full or half empty?

By: deltaoracle

deltaoracle — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:49:51 +0000

If you can urinate so forcefully that you put a hole in the receptacle… you might be on roids.
Hey – just bein’ snarky here, please don’t get too twitchy about it.

By: shlort

shlort — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:49:10 +0000

Apparently all plastic urine sample cups are contaminated with whatever drugs the players test positive for.

The NFL should reverse all suspensions ever handed down since testing began. Who would have thought that the company that made the cups coated the insides of random cups with an array of drugs. Never saw that one coming.

By: demo1984

demo1984 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:04:45 +0000

Best corner in the league, do you think maybe the PED’s was taking had something to do with that ?? Unless you are a Hawks fan because he was not cheating to them because the cup was cracked.
You Hawk fans deserve Carroll as a coach USC sure appreciates what he did for them.

By: yourmomcalled

yourmomcalled — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:44:42 +0000

jm9ulose says:
Dec 28, 2012 12:14 AM
LOL…best corner in the league? Usually the best corner in the league makes the Pro Bowl. I just checked the roster…he’s not on it. I LOL at Sherman’s and Hawks fans “swag”. I will enjoy your ousting in the playoffs. Have a nice day…
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No, the most popular players make the Pro Bowl. A benched C was voted a starter. Is he the best?
Sherman was not allowed to be voted in because of the appeal.

By: demo1984

demo1984 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:33:32 +0000

You Chicken Hawk fans kill me, the guy cheated and got caught plain and simple. The test was deemed INVALID not negative. He still had a positive test. The sample was not tainted or contaminated the cup was leaking and he was given a new one just like he should have, Sherman transfered the sample just like he should have. He got off only because the tech did not follow procedure when he did not include the cracked cup in the report.
The sample was positive, the guy still cheated. If he was clean is his teamate and other corner withdrawing his appeal for the same substance. Guess his cup was not cracked.

By: thefirstweaponofchoice

thefirstweaponofchoice — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:10:08 +0000

“I’ll never understand how fans can support cheaters just because they are on “their” team. Pretty poor upbringing if you ask me.”

Every team has cheaters. If you don’t believe that, you have a pretty naive upbringing.

…. Wait,,, wait…. Saint kidpresentable has something he wants to say….

By: thefirstweaponofchoice

thefirstweaponofchoice — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:02:21 +0000

All these haters just didn’t want him to play in the playoffs… He won,,, eat it haters.

By: lambeauwest

lambeauwest — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:37:44 +0000

Reminds me a bit of the Ryan Braun case – exhonerated on a technicality.

By: kidpresentable

kidpresentable — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:54:51 +0000

“I’ll never understand how fans can support cheaters just because they are on “their” team. Pretty poor upbringing if you ask me.”

Every team has cheaters. If you don’t believe that, you have a pretty naive upbringing.

By: bigbadbills

bigbadbills — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:27:37 +0000

Look at all these band wagon Seahawk fans!

By: hedleykow

hedleykow — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:24:42 +0000

Wake me up when the playoffs start.

By: huffdaddyco

huffdaddyco — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:15:18 +0000

You know, I have been rooting for the Seahawks this season and have enjoyed watching them play. The Hawk fans on here are changing my mind really quickly.

By: skins23

skins23 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:53:39 +0000

I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that Seattle is playing Washington or Dallas Wild Card weekend.

By: discountdoublecheck

discountdoublecheck — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:48:01 +0000

mavajo says:Dec 27, 2012 10:04 PM

Got out on a technicality. They should test him again immediately.
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Oh you mean kind of like how they have time and again since and he’s passed every time without question you zilch?

By: Beezo-Doo-doo-Zippity-Bop-bop-bop

Beezo-Doo-doo-Zippity-Bop-bop-bop — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:18:54 +0000

I’ll never understand how fans can support cheaters just because they are on “their” team. Pretty poor upbringing if you ask me.

By: voiceofrealism

voiceofrealism — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:11:19 +0000

eatitfanboy says: Dec 27, 2012 10:45 PM

Now, they can test him all they want- he won’t be stupid enough to go near anything illegal for a long time, if ever.
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Yeah, cuz people who commit crimes and get away with them never do it again. What a maroon.

By: thebigtim2012

thebigtim2012 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 13:06:56 +0000

Not a niners fan or a hawks fan. But the Braun defense strikes again. Seriously Ryan with a little initiative you could have trademarked it and made millions

By: doorharp11

doorharp11 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:54:47 +0000

Ryan braun has a new buddy!

By: jimyritz

jimyritz — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:54:33 +0000

Big mouth Sherman and Ryan Braun, two peas in a pod…

By: madpunter88

madpunter88 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:51:43 +0000

I was a urinalysis tester in the military and have conducted a number of these tests under the strictest procedures. The process is inviolate and the sanctity of the procedures is paramount since drug testing has an assumption of guilt based on positive tests. In virtually every other legal proceeding you are presumed innocent regardless of how much evidence there is against you and it is incumbent on the accuser to prove otherwise. Drug testing is the exact opposite — you are presumed guilty but only sometimes get the opportunity to argue your case otherwise. For this reason the process by which your due process is relinquished — the actual testing — must be without flaw and beyond reproach.

If this really happened the way he and the tester says it did it is amazing. This would be an egregious violation of process in the military’s drug testing system and the accused would be immediately vindicated. I would never even conceive of transferring a sample from one cup to another…and especially without documenting it. And if the tester himself did the transferring it would be infinitely worse. The tester is not allowed to touch the bottle from when it is handed to the subject until it is labelled and sealed. While the tester, of course, does not have malicious intent and is rarely trying to get people to test positive, for all intents and purposes the tester is the accuser. So it is important that the accuser not have direct access to the sample once it is collected.

Sherman need not argue he didn’t do it. And the fact that he is not saying that means nothing. He and any subject of drug testing is far, far more likely to get off based on procedural irregularities than by pleading innocence. He (well, his lawyer) did the right thing.

The NFL needs to seriously figure out this process. It is not that hard but the process must be beyond reproach.

By: vaphinfan

vaphinfan — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:44:44 +0000

Shady things always happen around Pete Carrol and his teams ever since his first few years at USC. Like them being so good at home and so bad on the road. I wonder why that is.

By: bobhk

bobhk — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:48:06 +0000

ljonesy2012 says:
Dec 27, 2012 10:10 PM
Awwwwww you a hater Mavajo? Ohhh a Pats fan I bet….or maybe San Fran? Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha GO HAWKS !!!!

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being a niners fan or pats fan would anyday qualify as being better than seabag fan. seahags have won exactly which trophy? oh right, one Lamar hunt.
yawn.

By: ripster65

ripster65 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 11:01:17 +0000

eh, whatever…leave the guy alone…

By: lostsok

lostsok — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:52:45 +0000

I’ve always rooted for the ‘Hawks in the NFC, but the Seattle fans are making them hard to like. I’ve never, literally, seen a fan base act as arrogant as they do…without actually accomplishing anyway.

You’d think they were working on a three-peat the way they brag…just embarrassing to watch, read, or listen to.

By: kelphelper

kelphelper — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 10:39:12 +0000

ok, a few things that seem to be missing from both the articles and the comments is the fact that sherman did indeed proclaim his innocence throughout. he has said that the reason he appealed and hired lawyers and pursued the whole process was because he knew he had not ingested any illegal substance. however, he knew that he needed more than just his word saying he didn’t use to overturn a suspension. almost all the players say that, and they always serve their time.

now, because their argument is about the blunders in the collection department, everyone is assuming that he is getting off on a technicality. “he never said he wasn’t guilty!” but yes, he has. it just wasn’t the main point of his argument, because the technicality was what would overturn the ruling.

whether you believe him or not, using the argument that he must have been guilty because he never said he didn’t use is pretty stupid.

By: lflib69

lflib69 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:46:20 +0000

What goes around comes around…Sherman will get his

By: lflib69

lflib69 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:42:27 +0000

I am a little confused here…..all the Seahawks fans are on here claiming that Sherman is the “Best CB in the NFL” yet he can’t even make the Probowl…which is voted on not only by the fans but the Players and Coaches as well. Hmmmm…when Revis comes back next year will they still claim he is the “Best CB in the NFL”? I am coming out of this article with the conclusion that the Gulls fans are a little delusional.

By: birdsnooper2

birdsnooper2 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:05:22 +0000

Hmmmm….Browner’s an unheraled canuck and Sherman’s a converted receiver from Stanford, but they both start producing at a high level with team Carroll? And they both get popped for Adderall at the same time?

Kinda like Lance wasn’t a climber until Ferrari and the dope rolled into town?

The Commish should investigate Carroll and this dope issue.

By: downsouth49er

downsouth49er — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:41:07 +0000

Who cares? The Seahawks acted like they won the SB after beating the 49ers. They won’t win the west and will go to the Redskins and get thrashed by RG3. The Cardinals will probably lay down to the 49ers after the Seahawks ran the score up on them a couple of weeks ago lol.