Comments on: Minority coaches not getting opportunities to run offenses

By: rmfp1978

rmfp1978 — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:54:58 +0000

To everyone crying about black people getting frozen out of the interview process and owners wanting a white face on their franchise get a life. If anything unjust is happening its whites getting passed up because race is an option. I know if I thought an organization was treating my race unfairly I would ban it. Bottom line race should never be a factor in an interview process. If I thought the majority was a differ race and they said oh we need more of this minority to make things fair your automatically picking the less qualified person

By: anthonyspinali

anthonyspinali — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 15:04:32 +0000

It may sound ridiculous to you. However, it’s not ridiculous because it’s true. Happens all the time in my profession and in my home town. It’s not an attempt to preserve whiteness so much as a desire not to work with minorities.

My wife is a real estate agent who is often asked if a neighborhood is a “black” neighborhood. She’s technically not supposed to answer that. But think of the connotations.

No one’s saying that the best person shouldn’t get the job. We are saying that, in some cases, the best people already aren’t getting the job due to subtle racism.

By: bowmanj35

bowmanj35 — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 06:24:59 +0000

I think we should also give all the coaches interviewed but not hired a little participation trophy too so their feelings don’t get hurt.

By: sandy102270

sandy102270 — Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:09:18 +0000

anthonyspinali says:
Dec 28, 2012 1:35 PM
White players are passed over for lack of talent. Black coaches are passed over for lack of whiteness. Get real do you think this isn’t a problem is because you think there’s no way a minority is qualified? That’s the definition of racism…
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So you’re saying that teams put the best players on the field, regardless of race, but then hire lesser qualified coaches just to preserve “whiteness”?

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds?

If the owners truly wanted to put a “white” face on their respective franchises, they surely wouldn’t pay tens of millions of dollars to rosters composed largely of non-white players.

By: charger383

charger383 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:41:51 +0000

Rooney rule is just another reason to hate the Steelers

By: onbucky96

onbucky96 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:38:33 +0000

I am personally offended that no cheerleaders have been named head coach in the NFL. I demand this inequality be addressed, or else. Unleash the annoying lawyer Gloria whatshername to seek justice and right this wrong!

By: jimbroney

jimbroney — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:35:11 +0000

I can’t wait til 2041 when whites will be the minority, we can corner the market completely!!

By: onbucky96

onbucky96 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:27:42 +0000

Whoa there fella. Wasn’t there a lot of whining that black coaches weren’t becoming head coaches? I seem to remember lots of coordinators who became head coaches after the Rooney rule. Now. you want a rule for coordinator jobs? How’s this, earn a job instead of whining about it. Don’t like it, quit. Oh yeah, did the Chiefs interview anyone else or just give the job to Crennel? Where’s the outrage over that?

By: Mr. Wright 212

Mr. Wright 212 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 23:00:05 +0000

You’ll be looking for Caldwell to be fired when they play a team that hasn’t quit like the Giants have. Ryan Lindley would have passed for 300 yards against the Giants.

By: bkorow

bkorow — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:27:49 +0000

Stick to football. All people care about is can the coaches successfully coach their team to a winning record irregardless of their color.

By: stull60060

stull60060 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:19:29 +0000

All employment should be best person for the job. However if you want to go the affirmative action route regarding black people lets see. Black people represent 12% of the population of the U.S.A. So that amounts to about 4 head coaches out of 32 teams.

By: seabronco

seabronco — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:09:29 +0000

Plus, didn’t most minority coaches pass up on other minorities? Maybe that’s a sign

By: eezyxyz

eezyxyz — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:57:11 +0000

anthonyspinali says: “White players are passed over for lack of talent. Black coaches are passed over for lack of whiteness. Get real do you think this isn’t a problem is because you think there’s no way a minority is qualified? That’s the definition of racism…”

But, how do you explain the fact that black head coaches are also passing over minorities when filling positions? Marvin Lewis hired Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden as DC and OC when those positions opened up, Mike Tomlin hired Todd Haley, Love Smith hired Mike Tice and before him Mike Martz. Presumably, Lewis, Tomlin and Smith do not have issues with people who have a “lack of whiteness”, so why aren’t they hiring minorities if there’s tons of talent out there?

By: qinct

qinct — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:44:25 +0000

BTW, seabronco posted these African Americans should earn the position bla bla bla. Can you please tell me how they do this when they are mostly frozen out of the interview process by people skirting the Rooney Rule?

By: nathanbetz91

nathanbetz91 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:35:31 +0000

Why do people always use this as an excuse? Affirmative action was the worst idea ever because it gives people this excuse that because they are black they are always Being treated unfair

By: bigjdve

bigjdve — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:28:49 +0000

KIR – Denny Green might be a better OC than most of the other OCs, however the problem is that he doesn’t want to be an OC, he wants to be a HC.

And he isn’t a very good HC.

By: qinct

qinct — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:23:58 +0000

The more you guys post about the Rooney Rule, the more ignorant people act. Guys NOTHING in the rule says the teams HAVE to hire a minority candidate, just that they need to interview at least one. The intent was to add to the network some quality assistants to the pool instead of recycling the good-old-boys. Everybody lost their minds when Pittsburgh chose Mike Tomlin over Ken Weisenhunt, that choice seemed to pay off pretty well. So STOP trying to make the rule something it is no…a hiring quota.

By: unkleruckus

unkleruckus — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:20:23 +0000

Gosh! They’ve already have the best golfer , the best basketball players, football players, track and field athletes, and hockey is ruled by Canadians and soviets, baseball by Latinos/ Dominicans…can we PLEASE hold onto something!!

By: reed20fence

reed20fence — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:55:17 +0000

Is it me, or are the Ravens the most socially progressive franchise in Football?

By: seabronco

seabronco — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:41:51 +0000

If they hired coached for athletic ability maybe it would be different. They hire for their brain, and that’s why it is how it is.

By: KIR

KIR — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:11:12 +0000

H’mm I see my comment about nepotism and the good old boy network wasn’t posted. lol Hue Jackson and Denny Green are better than 70% of the current O coordinators

By: melikefootball

melikefootball — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:43:35 +0000

Not enough non-minority players getting drafted, doesn’t that sound just as much a travisity.

By: hawk4life80

hawk4life80 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 19:22:11 +0000

I’m still waiting for the first Native American to coach a team.
Open your eyes there is not just two races in this world. Quit trying to segregate with these kind of topics mike
Smh.

By: manningbowl88

manningbowl88 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:51:31 +0000

who cares..theres 32 teams only 32 guys get the position im sure there will be more in the future..talk about a stretch for a story

By: richc111

richc111 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:42:34 +0000

6/32 that is double the % of the population. What would make them happy 100%. what about Greg Jennings last year saying that he thinks Jordy Nelson does not get the credit he deserves because he is white.

Also I find an interesting use of terms here “play calling” I know that Buffalo Offensive co-coordinator is black but he does not call the play. I guess it makes for a better number if they say play calling compared to Offensive Coordinators. Might be harder to make the point.

How about this number. How many Offensive line men are white? I bet of the good teams over 50% of them are. They need to stop that. We can’t have 80% of the population having 50% of a job.

By: anthonyspinali

anthonyspinali — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:35:27 +0000

White players are passed over for lack of talent. Black coaches are passed over for lack of whiteness. Get real do you think this isn’t a problem is because you think there’s no way a minority is qualified? That’s the definition of racism…

By: anthonyspinali

anthonyspinali — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:21:51 +0000

The whole idea is that these minority coaches aren’t being given opportunities for us to even know who they might be. Read the article again. If they were being given opportunities then we would know their names. I’m not trying to be cynical, I genuinely believe that the comments below this article are actually proof that there is a problem. How can we even know who the best man for the job is when only white guys get to be position coaches?

By: cuda1234

cuda1234 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:20:44 +0000

I totally agree that its time to start imposing affirmative action on sports. After all, if 10% of the population is black and 10% of the NFL coaches are black but 90% of NFL players are black, its not hard to see where the problem is.

Why aren’t Al Sharpton, Jessie Jackson and the ACLU all over this?

By: jsg1996

jsg1996 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:18:28 +0000

Enough already with the race talk! oh boo hoo. You know what? There are not enough white football players! So lame.

By: eezyxyz

eezyxyz — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 18:06:53 +0000

anthonyspinali says: “….There are a lot of great Black and Hispanic American Football players who deserve an opportunity to teach their craft and they are passed over by white men based on Nepotism. Take a dose of reality.”

Can you give us a list of the people you consider to be the top Black and Hispanic prospects.