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	<title>Comments on: Newton fined twice, for ref-bump and kick against Raiders</title>
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		<title>By: riderspantherssk</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 02:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newton clearly made a kicking motion at the 3 Raiders who were laying on him, trying to twist and jam up his knees.  He shouldn&#039;t have done it, but it was better than letting the Raider&#039;s D linemen accomplish their goal of injuring his legs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newton clearly made a kicking motion at the 3 Raiders who were laying on him, trying to twist and jam up his knees.  He shouldn&#8217;t have done it, but it was better than letting the Raider&#8217;s D linemen accomplish their goal of injuring his legs.</p>
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		<title>By: joetoronto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joetoronto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 12:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[delhommed says:
Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM
How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play.
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Yes, it WAS clean, about a decade ago.

You can&#039;t lead with your head, period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delhommed says:<br />
Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM<br />
How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play.<br />
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Yes, it WAS clean, about a decade ago.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t lead with your head, period.</p>
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		<title>By: shaggytoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shaggytoodle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 03:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wisewoo says: Dec 28, 2012 4:46 PM

I, for one, love the fines. Panthers are finally playing with some edge. Some fire. Some passion.

Nothing better than hardnosed football. 
_____

Yeah what puts fear into opponents more than a guy that bumps an official?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wisewoo says: Dec 28, 2012 4:46 PM</p>
<p>I, for one, love the fines. Panthers are finally playing with some edge. Some fire. Some passion.</p>
<p>Nothing better than hardnosed football.<br />
_____</p>
<p>Yeah what puts fear into opponents more than a guy that bumps an official?</p>
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		<title>By: txraiderfan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[txraiderfan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tommy Kelly gets flagged for getting kicked in the face... only with the Raiders]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy Kelly gets flagged for getting kicked in the face&#8230; only with the Raiders</p>
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		<title>By: raiderapologist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiderapologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 01:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[delhommed says: Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM

How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play. Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back! 
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Just saw a picture of that play on csnbayarea.com, and Hardy&#039;s helmet almost came out through Palmer&#039;s chest. Not clean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delhommed says: Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM</p>
<p>How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play. Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back!<br />
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Just saw a picture of that play on csnbayarea.com, and Hardy&#8217;s helmet almost came out through Palmer&#8217;s chest. Not clean.</p>
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		<title>By: raiderapologist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiderapologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 00:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[delhommed says: Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM

How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play. Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back! 
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It looked clean to me, but I was told hardy hit Palmer with his hat, hence the fine. I thought Palmer pretty much asked for a rib rub by just standing there looking downfield instead of paying attention to his surroundings, but QBs get treated like queens these days. I know the flags on Kuechly and Burris were bogus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delhommed says: Dec 28, 2012 4:40 PM</p>
<p>How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy’s hit on Palmer? It was a clean football play. Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back!<br />
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It looked clean to me, but I was told hardy hit Palmer with his hat, hence the fine. I thought Palmer pretty much asked for a rib rub by just standing there looking downfield instead of paying attention to his surroundings, but QBs get treated like queens these days. I know the flags on Kuechly and Burris were bogus.</p>
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		<title>By: amaf21</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amaf21]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 22:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow what a great team leader you have there in Carolina.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow what a great team leader you have there in Carolina.</p>
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		<title>By: thejuddstir</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thejuddstir]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bump is $21,000 but a kick is only $10,000? Explains why Suh-sie chooses to kick his opponents......it&#039;s cheaper !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bump is $21,000 but a kick is only $10,000? Explains why Suh-sie chooses to kick his opponents&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s cheaper !</p>
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		<title>By: wisewoo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wisewoo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, for one, love the fines. Panthers are finally playing with some edge. Some fire. Some passion.

Nothing better than hardnosed football. 

Got to keep that in check but I love watching a team that cares. Not something that the Panthers have very obviously done in a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, love the fines. Panthers are finally playing with some edge. Some fire. Some passion.</p>
<p>Nothing better than hardnosed football. </p>
<p>Got to keep that in check but I love watching a team that cares. Not something that the Panthers have very obviously done in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: delhommed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[delhommed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy&#039;s hit on Palmer?  It was a clean football play.  Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back!  What&#039;s the problem NFL?  Is this tag football these days?  B S!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the NFL justify the fine of Hardy&#8217;s hit on Palmer?  It was a clean football play.  Hardy was running full speed, Palmer stopped and Hardy hit him in the middle of the back!  What&#8217;s the problem NFL?  Is this tag football these days?  B S!</p>
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		<title>By: melikefootball</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[melikefootball]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a QB that needs to be suspended for his own good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a QB that needs to be suspended for his own good.</p>
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		<title>By: tinbender2000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[rajbais says: Dec 28, 2012 3:35 PM

First of all how did he kick Tommy Kelley?
======================================  Like a Girl :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rajbais says: Dec 28, 2012 3:35 PM</p>
<p>First of all how did he kick Tommy Kelley?<br />
======================================  Like a Girl <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: spellingcops</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So why exactly did the hit on Carson Palmer garner a fine? From what I saw it was a great blindside hit. That was legal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So why exactly did the hit on Carson Palmer garner a fine? From what I saw it was a great blindside hit. That was legal.</p>
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		<title>By: sffan75</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Love the Seinfeld reference.]]></description>
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		<title>By: larrydavid7000</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[newton is a PUNK.!!!!!!]]></description>
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		<title>By: silverandblack052099</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Mitchell was the Defensive player for the Raiders that tackled Cam slightly late and when the ref did not throw a flag for a late hit on the QB Cam jumped up and bumped the ref while screaming at him. Now, Let&#039;s say the ref did throw a flag on Mitchell for a late hit and Mitchell was the one who jumped up and bumped the ref while screaming at him, Do you think Mike Mitchell would have been ejected from the game?

The answer without a doubt is YES. But because the bias NFL has a different set of rules for the &quot;star&quot; players,even in meaningless games,Cam was allowed to continue to play. What a joke!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Mitchell was the Defensive player for the Raiders that tackled Cam slightly late and when the ref did not throw a flag for a late hit on the QB Cam jumped up and bumped the ref while screaming at him. Now, Let&#8217;s say the ref did throw a flag on Mitchell for a late hit and Mitchell was the one who jumped up and bumped the ref while screaming at him, Do you think Mike Mitchell would have been ejected from the game?</p>
<p>The answer without a doubt is YES. But because the bias NFL has a different set of rules for the &#8220;star&#8221; players,even in meaningless games,Cam was allowed to continue to play. What a joke!</p>
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		<title>By: zerole00</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zerole00]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m kind of indifferent when it comes to Newton, but did the Raiders SAY they were out to hurt Newton after Palmer got taken out?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kind of indifferent when it comes to Newton, but did the Raiders SAY they were out to hurt Newton after Palmer got taken out?</p>
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		<title>By: shaggytoodle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shaggytoodle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cam is silly, he will prove to be a headache. 

He reminds me of Cutler, has talent, but he seems to get rattled emotionally.

I think he will take a similar path as Cutler has, he will do so-so for the Panthers, but when he can&#039;t get them over the hump a team will try trading for him, Jets or Raiders perhaps?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam is silly, he will prove to be a headache. </p>
<p>He reminds me of Cutler, has talent, but he seems to get rattled emotionally.</p>
<p>I think he will take a similar path as Cutler has, he will do so-so for the Panthers, but when he can&#8217;t get them over the hump a team will try trading for him, Jets or Raiders perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: thereisalwaysnextyear</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thereisalwaysnextyear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like Deagelo Hall, but there needs to be consistency.  Hall didn&#039;t even touch the official and was ejected from the game.  It sounds like Newton said some things similar to what Hall did and even bumped the official.  He should have been kicked out of the game.  Period.  I didn&#039;t realize there were exceptions to the rule of not contacting the officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like Deagelo Hall, but there needs to be consistency.  Hall didn&#8217;t even touch the official and was ejected from the game.  It sounds like Newton said some things similar to what Hall did and even bumped the official.  He should have been kicked out of the game.  Period.  I didn&#8217;t realize there were exceptions to the rule of not contacting the officials.</p>
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		<title>By: rajbais</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rajbais]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all how did he kick Tommy Kelley?

Secondly, are we seeing the Ndamukong Suh of quarterbacks?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all how did he kick Tommy Kelley?</p>
<p>Secondly, are we seeing the Ndamukong Suh of quarterbacks?</p>
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		<title>By: nfloracle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nfloracle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The current Panthers circus led by Big Cat Jerry Richardson and Cam &quot;I am a Cultural Icon&quot; Newton is almost as interesting to watch and the Woody and Rex Show in NY. 

Two teams experiencing death by a thousand cuts... or maybe that should be death by a thousand laughs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current Panthers circus led by Big Cat Jerry Richardson and Cam &#8220;I am a Cultural Icon&#8221; Newton is almost as interesting to watch and the Woody and Rex Show in NY. </p>
<p>Two teams experiencing death by a thousand cuts&#8230; or maybe that should be death by a thousand laughs.</p>
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		<title>By: raiderguy10</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[raiderguy10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And anyone who actually bothered to watch the game will know that Kelly was the one flagged on that play too.  Anyone else think the NFL doesn&#039;t have a conspiracy on the Raiders??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And anyone who actually bothered to watch the game will know that Kelly was the one flagged on that play too.  Anyone else think the NFL doesn&#8217;t have a conspiracy on the Raiders??</p>
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		<title>By: hutch119</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hutch119]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 20:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two ejectable offenses in one game and he is fined as much as Suh&#039;s kick that could be proved to be intentional?

He really should be suspended for week 17. Missing the kick doesn&#039;t take away the intent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two ejectable offenses in one game and he is fined as much as Suh&#8217;s kick that could be proved to be intentional?</p>
<p>He really should be suspended for week 17. Missing the kick doesn&#8217;t take away the intent.</p>
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