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Should the Jets keep Rex or clean house?


On Friday’s edition of Pro Football Talk, Peter King and yours truly took up the question of whether the Jets should bring back coach Rex Ryan for another season.

King says yes.  I used to agree, but in light of a recent stream of daily distractions and embarrassments the best move for the Jets would be to press the proverbial reset button and clean house.

Actually, the best move would be for owner Woody Johnson to sell the team, since his unending desire to constantly attract attention and generate headlines has resulted in the wrong kind of attention — and the worst kind of headlines.

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  1. pinion8ted says: Dec 28, 2012 11:04 PM

    Should the Jets can Rex Ryan?

    Every circus needs a good ringleader.

    Keep him.

  2. hallcyon says: Dec 28, 2012 11:11 PM

    In professional football it has been said that employment will continue as long as their is hope for the future. Without such, it’s time to put someone else who can can give the organization and fans hope. With such hope the bills get paid.

    Will he stay or will he go can be answered by this criteria.

  3. Obama's Ballsack says: Dec 28, 2012 11:12 PM

    If Tebow had a thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

    Did anybody get the joke? Tebow is christian and ponder means to think. There is also a QB named Christian Ponder. It’s a nice play on words.

  4. bronco1st says: Dec 28, 2012 11:20 PM

    Rex needs to go along with Sanchez, Tebow and McEloy. Maybe they can all find success somewhere else – but together in NY, they are the epitome of dysfunctional.

  5. nyjets1017 says: Dec 28, 2012 11:21 PM

    I think he is one of the things right with the team. He has done a lot with a little. Great defense all years he has been there and the offense played well enough up until the last two years to get them in the playoffs. He needs a solid GM who will get him the right players who can play and not the ones who will sell papers. I think if Rex gets the right tools around him he will be a better coach.

  6. tfbuckfutter says: Dec 28, 2012 11:22 PM

    As a Patriots fan I say keep him.

    And bring in Rob Ryan too. Can Buddy GM?

    Any other Ryans running around would be great too. Maybe they can even get Paul Ryan to sign on to help build the brand amongst women. Sure Woody would love that.

  7. heeeeelzfan says: Dec 28, 2012 11:27 PM

    If I could buy Rex Ryan for what I think he is worth and sell Rex Ryan for what Rex thinks he is worth, I would be a rich man.

  8. philrat says: Dec 28, 2012 11:31 PM

    Keep rex and get rid of tannenbaum. Re-evaluate sparano as offensive coordinator.

  9. melikefootball says: Dec 28, 2012 11:32 PM

    Tebow may have take another coach out if Rex is gone. Tebow should start a new league with T.O

  10. getyourownname says: Dec 28, 2012 11:37 PM

    Ab0ut 7 or 8 of NFL coaches are hoping for a vacancy they can apply to.

    The rest want him to keep his job as long as possible because that increases the chances they will keep theirs.

  11. nyyjetsknicks says: Dec 28, 2012 11:37 PM

    Obama’s Ballsack says:
    Dec 28, 2012 11:12 PM
    If Tebow had a thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

    Did anybody get the joke? Tebow is christian and ponder means to think. There is also a QB named Christian Ponder. It’s a nice play on words.


    If you have to explain your joke…

  12. tfbuckfutter says: Dec 28, 2012 11:39 PM

    Obama’s Ballsack says: Dec 28, 2012 11:12 PM

    If Tebow had a thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

    Did anybody get the joke? Tebow is christian and ponder means to think. There is also a QB named Christian Ponder. It’s a nice play on words.


    That’s sort of funny….but the actual funny part is the concept that devoutly religious people actually have thoughts as opposed to just following without question. Which is what most religions demand.

  13. pkrjones says: Dec 28, 2012 11:39 PM

    If bluster, empty promises and a circus in the locker room is the goal, then by all means, keep him. There is some talent on the roster, but the Jets always seem to get the least out of them…

  14. hartleechung says: Dec 28, 2012 11:41 PM

    Keep Rex, bring in a new OC. Pick up a vet QB, invest in the OL (Draft, FA). Bring in as many Patriots as possible. Also, they need to fill the 3rd down back role again.

  15. al40110 says: Dec 28, 2012 11:53 PM

    Any half decent coach that gets the right tools around him would be a better coach. The problem is knowing how to use the tools.

  16. lfarrell2012 says: Dec 28, 2012 11:56 PM

    Hey Jets- Pat Shurmur will be available on Monday for your coach….Also, if you need a new GM you can get George Kokinos……Browns fans will vouch for both of us

  17. westchiefs5 says: Dec 29, 2012 12:17 AM

    Why don’t we ask Manish’s unnamed source? That guy/girl/intern/security guard/janitor has all of the answers.

    Stop defending this guy. We understand that he’s a guy in the industry that you can consistently have on the show, but give me a break. He’s a joke. You don’t see reputable reporters pull hide behind the anonymous resources like Manish does. He doesn’t have to defend his claims b/c there is nobody to put a name to it nor does he have to face any serious consequences for the damage he causes.

    One day he’ll be a great writer for Page 6, but don’t let him use the Jets as his springboard for hot gossip.

  18. cags777 says: Dec 29, 2012 12:18 AM

    Can Tannebaum or fire them both. Ryan obviously isn’t happy with the way things are going and he’s getting no help from the GM nor Mr. Johnson. Then again, Johnson said he cared more about Romney being elected president than making the Jets a winning team. You reap what you sow.

  19. dallascowboysdishingthereal says: Dec 29, 2012 12:31 AM

    Keep Rex? Seriously? Any coach who thinks Sanchez is an NFL QB need not be coaching in the NFL!

  20. shaggytoodle says: Dec 29, 2012 12:38 AM

    Keep Revis, and Tebow.

    Let them deicide.

  21. Aaron Kempf says: Dec 29, 2012 12:41 AM

    Rex should go. Tim Tebow should be the next starting QB for the Jets.. in addition to being player coach. Clean house- for the players- get a solid GOOD WHOLESOME set of people playing football with passion… and they’ll rock.

    Tim Tebow for QB -and- coach -and- GM is the only way that the Jets make the playoffs in 2013.

  22. mustbechris says: Dec 29, 2012 12:42 AM

    I concur with Woody selling the team.

  23. edithpiaf51 says: Dec 29, 2012 12:46 AM

    The jets are dysfunction junction.Rex must go.

    also to obama ball sack – i love your joke about christian ponder, that was cute;);)

  24. patssox says: Dec 29, 2012 1:06 AM

    The owner is the chief clown in that organization.

    Therefore he permits a clown coach who can’t keep his unprofessional trap shut.

    The owner should either sell or fire the coach.

  25. tommytd says: Dec 29, 2012 1:10 AM

    Keep the hapless fatso with the big yap on the Jets sideline. It’s fun to watch him make an idiot of himself week after week. Maybe he could even bring his bro over as DC then it would be at least a 2-ring circus! LOL

  26. tommytd says: Dec 29, 2012 1:12 AM

    I think he is one of the things right with the team. He has done a lot with a little. Great defense all years he has been there and the offense played well enough up until the last two years to get them in the playoffs. He needs a solid GM who will get him the right players who can play and not the ones who will sell papers. I think if Rex gets the right tools around him he will be a better coach.
    The right “tool” for this guy would be a muzzle.

  27. mogogo1 says: Dec 29, 2012 1:35 AM

    How do you realistically keep him? The bravado only works as long as the players buy into it and how are they supposed to do that after Rex hitched his wagon to Sanchez? And their offensive coaching has been abysmal. Close games where they had Sanchez throwing 45 passes and completing maybe half of them? Rex was the guy in charge as they built game plans designed to fail.

  28. dlmcc1010 says: Dec 29, 2012 2:09 AM

    Rex gets alot of heat for his personality, but hes a great X’s and O’s guy. That roster was a mess all year and somehow that team was in it up until the final weeks without their best player on defense, no WR’s, a shaky O-line, no RB, and no QB.

    He gets the most out of these guys.

    He isnt the problem there. That roster is. Thats the GM

  29. ebr362 says: Dec 29, 2012 2:21 AM

    clean the effin house before it goes on any longer.

  30. kenstabler says: Dec 29, 2012 2:31 AM

    Rex, Rex, your our man, clean out your desk as soon as you can.

  31. lgwelsh1 says: Dec 29, 2012 2:46 AM

    The last thing the Jet’s need to do is fire Rex Ryan.

    Get rid of the GM and get some football players on the team. Clean out the garbage and locker room drama types.

    Rex can only work with what he has, if anything he has done more with less this season than any other head coach in the league.

  32. Slackmo says: Dec 29, 2012 3:04 AM

    >If Rex gets the right tools around him

    The problem is that team has too many tools on it, starting with the head tool. Clean house.

  33. draculalambert says: Dec 29, 2012 3:27 AM

    I’d love to see Dallas hire him as head coach while his brother is in charger of the defense. The coaching staff would be dead ringers for “Sons of Anarchy.”

    so, yeah, jets need to clean house. As the white sox announcer says, “HE GONE!”

    (please hit the thumbs up, I work on commission)

  34. guinness021 says: Dec 29, 2012 3:30 AM

    The jets are a joke. From the top to the bottom. No leadership are heart on the Team

  35. cavredleg15 says: Dec 29, 2012 3:42 AM

    GM Mike Tannenbaum has ‘Hired’ two head coaches. If Rex gets fired I would expect MT to be out on his ass as well.

  36. dabearsk says: Dec 29, 2012 4:41 AM

    I think they should keep Rex…he needs to get a real OC like Norv a real GM. Rex did take these guys to two AFC championship games…maybe someone like Turner can salvage Sanchez…the qb truly has not improved over 4 years…hard to believe but maybe shotenhiemer and big tony are that bad of coaches…anyway..I think Rex should come back

  37. lrjets says: Dec 29, 2012 6:24 AM

    Why give Mark an extension at literally the same time they brought in Tebow? Someone should be held accountable. If Mark needed a push, an electric prod is cheaper, no circus atmosphere created, and people like myself wouldn’t question why Tebow wasn’t given a “full” chance, say after ummmm, week 6?
    Totally disasterous season!

  38. whatjusthapped says: Dec 29, 2012 6:37 AM

    At some point, you have to look at the quality of the roster, which is to say, the cupboard is bare.

    When you trade a ton of draft picks to move up to #5 to get your franchise QB and the move doesn’t work out as planned, it tends to deplete the overall team. That is more the central issue with the Jets although Rex’s bluster provides for more than a mere distraction.

  39. hehateme2 says: Dec 29, 2012 6:47 AM

    He is everything that is wrong with this franchise. So, he needs to stay!

  40. electionconfidential says: Dec 29, 2012 7:00 AM

    I say keep Ryan. Bring in a better OC and GM. None of the top-tier coaching candidates want this circus anyway. Also, Woody Johnson needs to eat the money for Sanchez’s contract, release Tebow and go hard after a FA or trade at QB.

    And not Vick btw…

  41. jpb12 says: Dec 29, 2012 7:24 AM

    Woody’s decision is purely based on ROI. If the Tebow experiment sold PSL’s and jerseys, then Rex and the circus stays. Woody owes him $ on his current deal.

    If the Jets brand is suffering (i.e. blackouts), then Rex goes

  42. ianwetpantscom says: Dec 29, 2012 7:46 AM

    Rex is not HC material, but as a DC, very good, he will stay in the NFL, but as a DC, the Steelers should make a run for him.

  43. razzlejag says: Dec 29, 2012 7:51 AM

    Every circus needs a good clown too so he fills two roles.

  44. ampats says: Dec 29, 2012 7:54 AM

    No changes. Keep the status quo and Super Bowl predictions and Sanchize can continue to lead this comedy act.

  45. richcranium2112 says: Dec 29, 2012 8:00 AM

    STOP the Insanity! Tannenbaum, Ryan, Sanchez are the ringleaders of the circus they call the J-E-T-S. Run, do not walk, them out of town! You can’t fool all the people all the time. Personnel have been decimated, they’re the laughingstock of the NFL. The Lingerie League may not want them.

  46. patriots123456 says: Dec 29, 2012 8:10 AM

    Clean House, keep Rex.

    That way if they still stink next year, get a new Carnival Barker to replace Rex.

  47. wrossi81 says: Dec 29, 2012 8:19 AM

    It’s a bad year to be firing a coach if you’re on the fence about it. It’s very easy to see 8 to 10 teams engaging in coaching searches next year and some of the top shelf coaches will probably be part of bidding wars, and what coach is going to want to come into the QB situation the Jets have right now?

  48. jakec4 says: Dec 29, 2012 8:24 AM

    The most logical suggestion made was for Rex to just admit he made a mistake hiring Sporano, and buy out his contract. I don’t see Rex as the problem. Their dysfunction is about a QB lost in a crazy run around offense that went nowhere. Lost in the Jets soap opera is the fact Rex still has a stout defense that is because of Rex. Any firings beyond Sporano should be made above Rex.

  49. harry1941 says: Dec 29, 2012 8:32 AM

    Most of the people who come here and post are NE fans. They want the Jets to clean house. That makes the Jets team weak. Bill Belicrap loves beating weak teams. If cost too much money to hire new coaches. The first the Jets should is get rid of the players that an’t doing their job. Get rid of OT Howard on the offensive line. He is allowing defensive players to zoom pass him. Draft OT Luke Joeckel of Texas A&M.

  50. cometkazie says: Dec 29, 2012 8:56 AM

    Move the team to Omaha, away from the media circus. Change their name to The Omaha Steaks.

    See if they attract the same attention out there.

  51. wwwmattcom says: Dec 29, 2012 8:57 AM

    If the Jets cut Rex, I would gladly take him in Buffalo. I think Rex learned something in Florham Park New Jersey but I think it would be hard to change the atmosphere in NJ.

  52. 1historian says: Dec 29, 2012 9:21 AM

    Clean house, start with the uniforms.

  53. 69finfan says: Dec 29, 2012 9:23 AM

    Keep Woody, Mike, Rex, Tony, Mark, Tim, Greg and all other players and forfeit all draft picks because you have the best team ever in the history of the NFL.

    Signed: The other 31 teams and their fans!

  54. kegmen7 says: Dec 29, 2012 9:24 AM

    If cleaning house includes the owner i’d gladly sacrifice rex to ditch woody- he’s awful and this debacle all starts with him….unfortunately it probably won’t end until he does too. I cant believe i’m writing this but I miss Leon Hess.

  55. ruggyup says: Dec 29, 2012 9:24 AM

    Open the barn doors and stall doors, get new brooms and shovels, back in the manure truck and get to work.

  56. pixelito says: Dec 29, 2012 9:42 AM

    nyjets1017 is a idiot

  57. annes22 says: Dec 29, 2012 9:59 AM

    Get rid of the whole circus act, and start again. The Jets have been a mess for 2 seasons now, and it needs to be over.
    Rex and Sparano need to go, Sparano is a terrible offensive co ordinator. His playbook for Tebow must have nothing in it, that was very unkind to treat him like that. He’s not a bad person, he’s just not a very good QB. Maybe it will work for him Jacksonville.

  58. pisano says: Dec 29, 2012 10:04 AM

    It’s obvious this dog and pony show can’t continue, this organization has to be totally revamped, so start at the top and work your way down.

  59. lennydpocketqb says: Dec 29, 2012 10:09 AM

    Let’s start with a new owner.

  60. marck55 says: Dec 29, 2012 10:09 AM

    Even as a Jets fan, I get tired of the media circus surrounding this team, and sometimes, I just want Rex to shut up, but no one can dispute the success they have had under him relative to the years before him, and I would even make the same case for Woody Johnson.

    Woody built this team a new training facility, and helped build a new stadium, both of which have helped attract free agents that he has been willing to spend money on. While the team’s cap situation reflects poor spending decisions, which Tannenbaum should mainly bear the blame for, the teams recent slump is not due to a lack of spending.

    And where was Woody being loud and obnoxious during the Mangini years? The owner has simply embraced, and fully supported, each coach he has had, adopting their ways.

    While it may be tough for a couple of years, it makes no sense to bring in a new coach now. They need to keep Rex, and he needs to suck it up and deal with this situation until the team has freed up resources by cutting the waste that has accumulated on their roster/cap.

  61. thelastpieceofcheese says: Dec 29, 2012 10:31 AM

    Keep him!

    Every court needs a jester!

  62. manningbowl88 says: Dec 29, 2012 10:32 AM

    if i was woody johnson and its sunday 12:55 pm and i see mark sanchez run out of that tunnel first id fire rex ryan before it hit 1:00

  63. grrsnronw says: Dec 29, 2012 11:03 AM

    Ryan is just like his Dad was and thats a BIG mouth. Rob has one but the Cowboys monitor what he says to the News outlets and he’s done a fairly good job with all the injuries the Cowboys have had on Defense. But Rex is a different story he plays a guy at QB thats a joke and you have one that was a proven winner in Denver and what Jets has done to that man is a joke. I just hope that Teabow goes to Jacksonville and hires a QB coach to teach him the right way to play QB. Say what you want about Romo he has been 1 of the best QB’s for several years and had nothing around him. And I think that Wade Wilson could make Teabow and outstanding QB for some other team but not the Jets. I’m fire Ryan and the GM and rework alot of players contracts and cut Mark Sanchez. And bring in a Vet. QB.

  64. toybkshr says: Dec 29, 2012 11:14 AM

    I’m a Pats fan and this season has been fun to watch, but I’d rather see a competitive Jets team, good for AFC East & League. However, how can an owner keep the people (RR & MT) that rewarded failure big time.

  65. immafubared says: Dec 29, 2012 11:18 AM

    IMHO, the buck stops with the Head Coach and the GM as well since he has the final say on draft picks, acquisitions that effect the team.

    I think you get rid of both and start over.

    Maybe the other question should be, is it a fluke the Jets aren’t in the playoffs? If the answer to that is no, considering the talent on the team, the answer becomes more evident: clean house good bye Rex, goodbye GM.

  66. wnstonchill says: Dec 29, 2012 11:32 AM

    Rex Ryan is a classless slug. He belongs with the Jets. Infact, they should give him a lifetime contract. Let’s put the “X” in the box for Rex!!!

  67. bdub14 says: Dec 29, 2012 11:52 AM

    If the Jets were smart they would offer the head job to Mike Westhoff….

  68. eatitfanboy says: Dec 29, 2012 11:59 AM

    If Tebow had a thought would it be a Christian Ponder?

    Did anybody get the joke? Tebow is christian and ponder means to think. There is also a QB named Christian Ponder. It’s a nice play on words.

    The joke was good. Your mistake was including the explanation.

    As for Ryan, I think he needs to go. There is a place for people like the Ryan boys, but I don’t think it is at the top of an organization. They need someone above them to reign in their over-size personalities. Left to run amuck, their teams take on these personalities and wind up resembling zoos more than professional organizations.

    It was true of their father, and it’s true of them as well.

  69. mewelde says: Dec 29, 2012 12:10 PM

    If he would just shut up publicly and quit acting like an ass at press conferences…..He may actually be a good coach.

  70. CKL says: Dec 29, 2012 12:27 PM


    Nice post. I am not sure I absolve Woody totally though. He’s willing to spend the money which is good, but unfortunately he doesn’t seem to know enough what he doesn’t know (a problem my team’s owner, Kraft, had at first), which leads him to do things like promoting Tannenbaum (whom we both agree is a problem). Being great at your job means never ceasing to learn and grow and perhaps Woody needs to consult business leaders in other venues who he respects and asks them what qualities are important in hiring good people, etc. He can then apply that to a search for a new GM. Merely kicking Tanny upstairs would be a disaster as even though he may be suited for it (he is highly educated) his replacement could have a very uncomfortable work environment.
    Or…This is another thing BB did to blow up his rivals…Tanny did start with BB in Cle. LOL

  71. brohamma says: Dec 29, 2012 2:53 PM

    As a Pats fan I would suggest that Woody fire Rex and move Tannenbaum into a more influencial role; one with the ability to be the sole decision maker as to who should be then next headcoach. With the Bills, Fish and M-E-S-S (mess, mess, mess) in the division it makes each year seem like a new circus is coming to town.

    Please do anything you can to continue this tradition Woody! PS: Props on the name.. Woody Johnson.. just golden.

  72. patsfan13 says: Dec 29, 2012 5:36 PM

    Keep the Jets intact, and give them all a raise.Best comedy act in the league.

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