Comments on: Report: Browns will fire Shurmur, Heckert after Sunday’s game

By: phillyfanmatt

phillyfanmatt — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:16:20 +0000

No big name coach would want to work under Banner. Cue one Andrew Reid. Already has in Philly. Maybe they reunite in Cleveland.

By: charman11

charman11 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:01:18 +0000

I don’t understand why so many on here want Heckert to stay on. He passed up a lot of talent and the ones he picked really aren’t doing much. I don’t get the infatuation with the guy..

By: buckeyeguy75

buckeyeguy75 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:38:48 +0000

Jim Tressell to the Browns!

By: buckeyeguy75

buckeyeguy75 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 15:18:31 +0000

im sure this decision was made a long time ago like when Haslum forkd out a billion dollars

By: vngnce

vngnce — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:19:13 +0000

Thank God!

By: burds358

burds358 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:02:30 +0000

Heckert should stay. Whenever he made a decision that was questionable (Weeden, McCoy), it was always because Holmgren overruled him and made the decision instead. Other than that, he’s brought some good young talent to a team that’s starved for it. Shurmer needs to leave, but man, Heckert will get a job so quickly if he’s let go.

And I’m saying this as a Ravens fan too.

By: citiciti

citiciti — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:48:51 +0000

Good.

By: ytsejamer1

ytsejamer1 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:40:19 +0000

i have no horse in the race persay in regards to what happens to Cleveland. That said…I’m kind of surprised they’re blowing it up yet again.

They just started putting the pieces in place and they have a lot to work with. Kind of sad actually…I think blowing it up is the new owner’s first of likely many, mistakes. And so…the fans will have to wait another five to ten years.

By: hor2012

hor2012 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:14:46 +0000

The reason he made the decison so quickly was because Nick Saban said he wanted the job. Now, I know all the Tide fans will come out of the wood work and say that he already said he staying and he isn’t going anywhere. We heard the same speech at LSU and he gave the message right before he bolted for Bama. The only problem I have with him doing this way is I think Bama’s QB decided to come back thinking the coach Saban would be there and they could three peat. So, I feel bad for him. But, you can mark it down Saban is going to coach the Browns and either way it goes after he’s done there he will retire. His mountain size ego won’t allow him not to give the NFL another try, especially sense PC and JH are having the kind of success they’re having. My bet is right after the Championship game he tells everyone he’s going.

By: hehateme2

hehateme2 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:59:12 +0000

Browns will always suck. Better to be a Jets fan, ?????????????

According to what? The jet franchise is also a bottom feeder. Same difference.

By: donmcg2012

donmcg2012 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:31:45 +0000

I’m really liking that Cowher and Arians idea.

By: bengalskuta82

bengalskuta82 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 12:08:29 +0000

How many Coaches and QBs have they had in the past 6 years? Jeez,talk about a revolving door. I feel bad for the Browns fans and some of their veteran and young players in their 3rd season..Going thru different OCs and DCs could be a tough task..I hear u Josh Cribbs “I hate that we keep rebuilding every year”

By: TheWizard

TheWizard — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:52:34 +0000

Considering the carousel hasn’t worked out, I would like to see this team hire somebody and stick with them for 5 years. Try consistency.

By: macbull

macbull — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:44:47 +0000

From the day it was announced that Haslam bought the team and hired Banner, I knew this day was coming.

The coaches and players knew it too…the team has been playing under this cloud since Haslam took over.

When Banner, who has never been in charge of the football side of any franchise, took over for Holmgren…you figured the rookie owner and rookie Pres (in charge of all football operations), would screw up the rebuilding project that was just 60% complete.

If the 5 yr rebuilding plan continued, Holmgren and Heckert would get most of the credit…not Banner and Haslam…this is about EGOES !

Sadly, the Browns are nothing more than “a toy” that Billionaires play with.

Haslam railed on Al and Randy Lerner for making changes as often as they did…then what is the first thing Haslam does..STARTS MAKING CHANGES.

…fired Holmgren handing the team over to a man who has never been in charge of the football side of any team.

Most big name head coaching prospects will not work under Banner, so this idea that Nick Saban is coming to Cleveland and reporting to Banner is nothing but a dream.

By: clebrowntown

clebrowntown — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 11:19:21 +0000

Having watched all the Browns games under the Shroomer regime I can honestly say I believe he and his offensive coaches play calling has been THE issue for the Browns. Whipple/Childress/Shroomer are the 3 Stooges of offensive coaching.
What’s been going in Weeden’s ear during games has been ridiculous.
Heckert had a lot of holes to fill on the roster and he has found quite a few decent players but the bottom line is he hasn’t found enough.

As for the RG3 fiasco…it did not make any sense to have RG3 go to CLE because it’s a small market and the NFL wanted him in a major market. Yes, I’m thinking the deal was guided by them or possibly just the friendship oh Shanny and the Rams heads. It had to be because the Browns actually did make a better offer than the Skins.

Time for change…again, here in CLE.
NEXT!

By: bobzilla1001

bobzilla1001 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:22:45 +0000

jessthegreat:
Your assertion that Bill Cowher is “itching to get back” into coaching is based on exactly what? Please enlighten us…
Coaching in Cleveland is career sucide. Never in the history of the Browns has a coach ever retired on his own-free-will.
It’s pretty sad when the Browns’ best coach of the past 25 years was Butch Davis…
Cowher has zero interest in leaving the warmth of the studio to coach any team. Can’t say as I blame him.

By: thetooloftools

thetooloftools — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:04:16 +0000

They had to go.

By: pcoisma

pcoisma — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:27:55 +0000

It looks like the Steve Spagnoula coaching tree is officially dead. Thankfully no survivors. Rams got Jeff Fisher a definate improvment.

By: doe22us

doe22us — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:13:36 +0000

I guess they are going out lossers considering what the Steelers will do to them tommorow with the Brownies starting their third string QB.

By: thegloriousone

thegloriousone — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:08:23 +0000

The Browns had / have far too many holes to give away a bunch of ones and twos for Robert Griffin. If he had landed in Cleveland, he would have had a crappy 5 year career with no talent around him.

Fire Shurmur. Keep Heckert.

By: thefiesty1

thefiesty1 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 05:05:26 +0000

It doesn’t matter, it’s the Browns.

By: brenenostler

brenenostler — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:58:14 +0000

It’s been so long that Cleveland has been good. They can’t give these people one more year and hope for improvement. They need to get the absolute best coaches they can because this losing streak has gone on all too long now. No more first year coaches! Get someone that has been successful as an NFL head coach like Brian Billick!

By: sactown9er916

sactown9er916 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:57:16 +0000

I have a question. If Lombardi takes the job and fails, will his NFL Network buddies start questioning his credibility when on the show. I mean how could he realistically go back to that job with a straight face after failing as a GM twice?

While they’re at it, get rid of Jaime Dukes as well.

By: charman11

charman11 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:41:41 +0000

To all you Browns fans who say you will leave the Brwons if they fire Heckert.. see ya. He passed on so much talent I couldn’t believe it. J Jones did it for me, I was done with Heckert right then and there. I feel the same about Shurmur good-bye see ya. He just doesn’t have a clue out there.
Now who will we get that will be interesting to find out but I am excited to see and am looking forward to a new era to begin. Go Browns!!

By: dabearsk

dabearsk — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:41:03 +0000

I think Heckert has done an ok job…maybe hire Jay Gruden or the OC from Denver..but Cleveland is collecting some ok players…

By: clw1906

clw1906 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:32:37 +0000

wardmanone says:
Dec 29, 2012 9:25 PM
Tommy Boy:
Get a grip and do yourself a favor Your President undervalued the #2 overall pick and then wanted a do over he .like Redskins got one chance and Browns blew it. mr Holgrem then whined about it to the press in a an attempt to cover his tracks…oh here another news flash the Rams already played the Redskins and RGIII and reminded the chosen one it wasn’t the Big 12. Rams Won. Enough of blaming of others for the futile franchise results. Stick to the facts!

Wait this I miss something are the Rams fighting for the division crown or even in the playoff talk? Your points were valid until you tried to dog the Redskins. Lol Lams fans talking about a game during the season. Lol enjoy watching “the chosen” one in the playoffs.

By: sellout1983

sellout1983 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:23:55 +0000

Bengals fan here, I say this with zero malice, I hope that Cleveland can compete in the short future. I say this because I know what it is to suffer following a losing franchise. But, the one thing I can offer is this, when/if the Browns start winning…the drought will make the winning all the more sweeter, trust me on this..or don’t, whatever…i’m not a cop..

By: lfarrell2012

lfarrell2012 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:03:52 +0000

Hire 49ers OC and John Carroll Grad Greg Roman, sign Alex Smith to play QB, draft Manti Teo with 1st round pick and keep Dick Jauron as DC and this is a playoff team next year just like the 49ers in Harbaugh’s first season

By: smogofwar

smogofwar — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:00:33 +0000

It’s beyond me how some fans can condone incompetence and say the Browns should give Shurmur another year. He’s proven nothing in the NFL except that he is incompetent. The only reason he got the job was because he’s Fritz Shurmurs nephew and the Browns will not grow under him.

Good bye and good riddance to Holmgren (great coach-lousy GM).but I’ll be sad to see Heckert leave, he did add a lot of talent thru the draft.

And I just want to say the only Lombardi that could possibly help the Browns is Vince and he’s dead! So we better buckle up and pray, 2013 could be more of the same.

By: jesse1834

jesse1834 — Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:53:51 +0000

Pat Shurmurnator, an unsophisticated coach sent back through time to once again reset the Browns rebuilding process.