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Survey of MVP voters suggests Peyton leads Peterson

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Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning may have a slight edge over Vikings running back Adrian Peterson in their neck-and-neck race for the NFL Most Valuable Player award.

The Denver Post surveyed 18 of the 50 voters on the Associated Press panel that picks the MVP, and found that nine of them plan to vote for Manning, three of them plan to vote for Peterson and six of them believe it’s too soon to say before today’s season finales for both players. None of the 18 voters said they think they’ll vote for anyone other than Manning or Peterson.

If Manning and the Broncos lay an egg and get upset by the lowly Chiefs today, that would surely hurt Manning’s MVP cause, but the vote will probably come down to how Peterson and the Vikings do today against the Packers. If Peterson rushes for 102 or more yards (which would get him to 2,000) and the Vikings beat the Packers to make the playoffs, he’s probably the MVP. If Peterson rushes for 208 or more yards (which would break Eric Dickerson’s single-season NFL record) and the Vikings beat the Packers, Peterson is almost certainly the MVP. If Peterson fails to reach 2,000 yards and the Vikings lose to the Packers and don’t make the playoffs, Manning is almost certainly the MVP.

In any event, this is the most interesting MVP race we’ve seen in the NFL in years. Not bad for a couple of guys who at this time last year were dealing with injuries that called into question whether they could play at all in 2012.

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  1. jc1958cool says: Dec 30, 2012 10:36 AM

    that’s because idiots vote

  2. dgoens3109 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:37 AM

    What exactly does Adrian Peterson have to do to win MVP? Does he physically have to strap the entire organization on his back and carry it down the field? Good grief!

  3. greymares says: Dec 30, 2012 10:39 AM

    no running back should ever get the M.V.P. it’s the #22 position on the field as far as evaluation is concerned and running backs are a dime a dozen

  4. canetic says: Dec 30, 2012 10:39 AM

    I’m sure Jim Brown will have nothing to say about that.

  5. tonyugoh says: Dec 30, 2012 10:40 AM

    They have offensive player of the year for a reason, give Peterson that and the Comeback player but for my money, Manning is the MVP. 4 neck surgeries, his second best season statistically, adjusting to a new team and new environment, and took the Broncos to a Super Bowl caliber level. Peterson has been incredible but in today’s NFL, quarterbacks are inherently more valuable than running backs are, its just the facts. I ask, if the Vikings could trade Peterson for Manning or Brady or Rodgers, wouldn’t they do it? You can’t say the same vice versa from the Broncos, Pats or Packers perspective.

  6. randallflagg52 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:42 AM

    Tired of seeing Peyton win MVP every year. If I recall Denver won a playoff game last year (albeit against the steelers). Peterson is single handedly keeping his team afloat, which to me is the definition of MVP.

  7. patsfan11 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:42 AM

    Can somebody explain me why Manning is ahead of Brady in that race?

    Top 5 D vs Bottom 5 D
    Manning has more Ints

    Maybe he should get OPTY, but IMO MVP is the player that makes the most difference on a team. Broncos were 8-8 with Tebow lol

  8. Obama's Ballsack says: Dec 30, 2012 10:47 AM

    Didn’t the Broncos just make it out off the wild card last year? I’m pretty sure AP is more valuable to his team than Manning. The Broncos even had a top 5 D.

  9. tdshouldbeinthehall says: Dec 30, 2012 10:48 AM

    You don’t get MVP if you can’t get your team to the playoffs. If you can then Calvin should be in on this because he is about to do something no WR has ever done. 2000 yards for a RB is great but Jamal Lewis did it without a QB so what Peterson is doing has been done. If the Viks make the playoffs then there is a discussion, if not then Manning gets it.

  10. mrlaloosh says: Dec 30, 2012 10:49 AM

    Matt Ryan is having a MVP year. Never mentioned in the top tier. It should be Peterson or Ryan. Period. Maybe Brady in third place. RGIII Luck and Russel Wilson should get consideration before melon head Manning.

  11. msclemons67 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:51 AM

    It’s a passing league. The MVP will be a QB until the rules change and make the running game relevant again.

  12. rodgers419 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:54 AM

    Manning aint even the best at his position..

  13. dbtime says: Dec 30, 2012 10:54 AM

    Peyton Manning is the MVP hands down.

  14. bowens3181 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:55 AM

    The Manning-MVP love makes no sense to me this year. He has been good, but the Broncos were decent last year without him and he has only one win this year against a quality team, the Ravens, with losses in every other game he has played against a decent team, against Houston, Atlanta, New England. I personally would have Manning 3rd or 4th on my ballot, behind Brady/Peterson (depending on how today goes) and maybe even Watt (again, depending on how today goes).

  15. electionconfidential says: Dec 30, 2012 10:55 AM

    Great QBs are more valuable than great RBs because of the decision making / leadership aspects. Manning’s ability to check off at the line and run a no-huddle offense is just as important as his stats.

    I’m not saying that he’s the best QB in the league, just that the position of QB is much more demanding than the RB position.

  16. andrejohnsonforpresident says: Dec 30, 2012 10:57 AM

    poor j.j. watt! his numbers are stupid good and he can’t even get consideration. I wonder if he gets any votes when he breaks the record today.

  17. leatherface2012 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:59 AM

    greymares says:
    Dec 30, 2012 10:39 AM
    no running back should ever get the M.V.P. it’s the #22 position on the field as far as evaluation is concerned and running backs are a dime a dozen

    right, ask the packers how rb’s are a dime a dozen

  18. tdshouldbeinthehall says: Dec 30, 2012 11:02 AM

    patsfan11 says:
    Dec 30, 2012 10:42 AM
    Can somebody explain me why Manning is ahead of Brady in that race?

    Top 5 D vs Bottom 5 D
    Manning has more Ints

    Maybe he should get OPTY, but IMO MVP is the player that makes the most difference on a team. Broncos were 8-8 with Tebow lol
    ———-
    And if Brady went down the Pats would only win 11 games. See Matt Cassel.

  19. denver1983 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:03 AM

    Sorry AP fans, this is a qb league!!

    Peyton Manning will be MVP!!!

  20. justrunit11 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:05 AM

    Thing is that Manning got to play against an easy division while the NFC north has two good teams. Also the only legit team Broncos beat were the Ravens while losing to Texans, Pats, and Falcons.

  21. dldove77 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:06 AM

    And why is Thomas Davis not on this list? Three torn ACLs!

  22. dldove77 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:06 AM

    Nevermind. Davis for CPOY.

  23. wafflestomp says: Dec 30, 2012 11:10 AM

    Just seriously wondering why Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady aren’t in the conversation.

  24. boobsmcgoo says: Dec 30, 2012 11:10 AM

    Most Valuable Player should go to best player. I am so tired of fans and media members dissecting the semantics of ‘valuable’. Don’t take it so literally! They should change the award BFP, if you know what I mean.

    Think about it, they don’t argue about how famous a player is before inducting him into the Hall of Fame!

  25. loldeepball says: Dec 30, 2012 11:16 AM

    I personally think Peterson should be the MVP, but if he isn’t, I don’t see why it should be Manning.

    Lets take a quick look at QB stats:

    Peyton Manning: 4,355 passing yards (6 rushing), 34 TDs to 11 picks.

    Aaron Rodgers: 3,930 passing yards (+259 rushing), 37 combined TDs, 8 ints.

    Tom Brady: 4,543 passing yards (32 rushing), 36 combined TDs to 8 ints.

    Manning’s return from the neck surgery has been impressive, and I’m not knocking what he’s done this year. That’s what comeback player of the year is for though, not MVP.

    Manning plays in a division that includes football’s worst team in Kansas City, arguably football’s second worst team in the Raiders that has padded its record by beating KC, and the sub .500 Chargers.

    Rodgers plays in a division that has two other teams competing for playoff spots in the Bears and Vikings, and Detroit, which is disappointing this year but is coming off a winning season and is loaded with talent. He has had to overcome injuries among three of his top four wide receivers. Constant shuffling of an injury depleted offensive line that really can’t protect him anymore. No running game. A mediocre, injury depleted defense. And he still has better stats while his team is on track for the #2 seed.

    By contrast, Manning has a top 5 defense, a great running game to take pressure off of him, and has had to deal with almost no injuries around him. He gets more possessions. It’s not all on him like it is Rodgers, that team can win in a variety of ways. Put Tebow in as Green Bay’s QB, and the Packers don’t make the playoffs or win a playoff game.

    Meanwhile, New England has had a more difficult schedule than Denver.

    To me, it’s baffling that Manning is considered the no brainer qb to win MVP.

  26. vikefan says: Dec 30, 2012 11:18 AM

    its time NFL changes its ways a bit and makes both co-mvp’s…both deserve it as well as come back player of the year together

  27. moondog7 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:19 AM

    If the broncos lose to new England in the second round will this season have been better then last year with Tebow?

  28. melikefootball says: Dec 30, 2012 11:19 AM

    Why not Peterson a running back? Giving it to the QB every year, when if he did not have a running back, or receivers, or a good line would not be so hot. Look at the Vickings going from a bad year to one win from playoffs, you don’t think Peterson had something to do with that. Atleast he should be given some consdideration.

  29. coolzog says: Dec 30, 2012 11:23 AM

    I think Peterson should get it, but I don’t understand why Peyton Manning is the default. Brady likely deserves it more than Manning does.

  30. lordfletcher says: Dec 30, 2012 11:25 AM

    this league is getting out of hand with their treatment of the elite QB’s… don’t get me wrong, clearly its an important position but just because you play QB shouldn’t mean you are ushered to the front of the MVP and awards.

    manti te’o
    AP / all day

    the two best players in their leagues this year. No question.

  31. lordfletcher says: Dec 30, 2012 11:25 AM

    sorry left out Heisman (in my rant)
    ——–
    lordfletcher says:
    Dec 30, 2012 11:25 AM
    this league is getting out of hand with their treatment of the elite QB’s… don’t get me wrong, clearly its an important position but just because you play QB shouldn’t mean you are ushered to the front of the MVP and HEISMAN awards.

    manti te’o
    AP / all day

    the two best players in their leagues this year. No question.

  32. boyshole25 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:26 AM

    Why not both win

  33. ~Hate~ says: Dec 30, 2012 11:28 AM

    The Broncos were in the playoffs with Tebow at the helm. ’nuff said!!

    All Hail Peterson!!

  34. thegrey7 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:28 AM

    Voters always seems to forget that they are voting for “Most Valuable Player” and not “Most Valuable Player On An Elite Team”.

  35. 7ransponder says: Dec 30, 2012 11:31 AM

    msclemons67 says:
    Dec 30, 2012 10:51 AM
    It’s a passing league. The MVP will be a QB until the rules change and make the running game relevant again.

    ———————

    The running game made the Vikings relevant again.

  36. massappeal12345 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:32 AM

    After all, Manning has those signature wins against Houston, Atlanta and New England.
    Wait…He lost all those games. (insert your excuses)

    His only wins against playoff teams were Cincy and a reeling, injured Baltimore team.

    But he can sweep that tough division of KC, Oakland, and San Diego with a KC win today.

    Not a Minny fan, but Adrian Peterson is a stud, with one of the guttiest seasons EVER.

    How can this vote be even close.

  37. golforepar says: Dec 30, 2012 11:35 AM

    AP would run for 3000 yards if he were playing in the AFC West! Manning MVP? JOKE!!

  38. petecarrolmorelikecheatpayroll says: Dec 30, 2012 11:42 AM

    I bleed green & gold myself – DIE hard Packer fan here…..I mean nobody hates the Vikes perhaps more than me, but if Peterson loses the MVP to Manning, it should be considered a crime. There couldn’t be a more clear-cut MVP in my opinion than giving it to ‘All Day’. It’s this simple: If the Vikings didn’t have Peterson, they’d be a 4 win team. If the Broncos didn’t have Manning, they’d still be a .500 team. Case closed.

  39. thegrey7 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:43 AM

    “It’s a passing league. The MVP will be a QB until the rules change and make the running game relevant again.” AP has single-handedly made the running game relevant in a passing league.

  40. bigdogsolec says: Dec 30, 2012 11:46 AM

    Peterson should be the MVP , Manning took a whole year off to recover from his surgery.Adrian recovered from his in about 9-10 months

  41. moelester says: Dec 30, 2012 11:48 AM

    If Tom Brady was actually that great the Patriots wouldn’t have went 11-5 without him, UNDER MATT FRIGGEN CASSELL!
    Colts lose Manning they can barely win a game.
    Pats lose Brady and they won a couple games less that year than they did this year.
    Brady vs Manning isn’t even comparable. Get him off Bills teet and see what he does

  42. onlyopinionthatmatters says: Dec 30, 2012 11:50 AM

    i understand theres a big discussion for both players, but lets get real, we all know manning will win it regardless of what AP does. im a huge AP fan and hope heh destroys the record/packers. but we have to just accept that its partially a popularity vote. people wanted to give MVP to peyton last year when his team crashed without him. manning makes a difference. yeah the broncos went 8-8 last year, but how many 4th qtr comebacks has manning had to pull out this year. how many OT wins has manning had to pull out this year. the guys great, and one of the best of all time. hes way more valuable then AP. AP has been great his whole career, but unless him and the rest of the vikes start destroying teams, hell never win it.

  43. truthfactory says: Dec 30, 2012 11:57 AM

    What if they swapped teams?? If you take peterson out of Minesota and put in Manning, the vikings are an instant superbowl contender. If you take Manning out of Denver and put in peterson, they would just be a borderline playoff team.

  44. slippyal2 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:04 PM

    I expect them to split the award like Farve and Sanders did.

  45. brento1499 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:14 PM

    split the MVP AND the comeback player of the year awards. both these guys are sensational and deserving of both

  46. walter0247 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:16 PM

    It’s “Most Valuable Player”. If Manning wins this they should change it to “Player That Faced The Most Adversity In The Offseason”. Heck i’d vote all of the power 3 rookie Qbs before manning. Stupid media.

  47. bdoubleoey says: Dec 30, 2012 12:20 PM

    Manning had 2 years to recover from his injuries, while AP did what he did in less then a year. Also Denver had had a cake schedule, easy division plus they have only beat 1 playoff team (Cincy) and have lost to 3 top seeds in the Texans, Pats and Falcons. AP’s team was 3-13 last year. Denver was 8-8 and won a playoff game. AP’s injury has been called a Running Back killer, and he has come back better then ever, he has no QB to take off the pressure. Manning has a good running game and a really good defense. You put an average QB on that team and they still make the playoffs, you put an average RB on the Vikings they win 3 or 4 games this year. Thats why AP should get MVP. Its obvious

  48. bamboozle99 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:23 PM

    Some of these voters wanted Manning for MVP last season. Things will probably go as usual. He’ll get his MVP award then choke in the playoffs.

  49. wherezwaldo says: Dec 30, 2012 12:36 PM

    Manning/Peterson 2013

  50. hoodheisman says: Dec 30, 2012 12:36 PM

    If the Packers beat the Vikes tonight, then Rogers should be league MVP. He’s put up better numbers than any other QB and you cannot make a case that any other QB means more to their team than Rogers does to the Packers.

    If the Vikings win, then it should go to Peterson. This is a QB league and for a RB to carry a team on his shoulders the way Peterson has makes his value that much more compelling. Plus given the stage where he has to beat the Packers to get his team to the playoffs on the last game of the season, this should be Peterson’s award if they beat the Pack.

  51. atrophiedambitions says: Dec 30, 2012 12:47 PM

    Comeback POTY is second-place for the MVP award this year. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. James Andrews!!!

  52. gbpackfan1990 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:49 PM

    Do the voters even look at the stats? Brady and Rodgers are having better seasons than Manning.

  53. lilrob10201 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:50 PM

    I think that AP should be MVP because no player has ever done what AP has done this season,when what Peyton has done has been done plenty of times.

  54. thejuddstir says: Dec 30, 2012 12:51 PM

    Would like to see Manning’s stats if he played in any other division. 3 teams in the division with losing records and 3 of the overall worst teams in the NFL.

  55. FinFan68 says: Dec 30, 2012 12:53 PM

    Manning is definitely the league “MVS” (Most Valuable Spokesman) but his numbers are no better than some other QBs.

    Peterson is having a great year and could break a long-standing NFL record.

    Calvin Johnson is unquestionably the best at his position and has already broke a couple long-standing NFL records this year.

    JJ Watt is having a year like no other defensive lineman has EVER had. He disrupts the offense and impacts plays in ways that are not recorded in a stats line (at least 5 of his batted balls were intercepted) and has a legit shot at breaking the sack record.

    Throw out the previous injury aspect and the team’s record is irrelevant as well. JJ Watt is IMHO the best player in the NFL right now…but he won’t win.

  56. iamjimmyjack says: Dec 30, 2012 1:00 PM

    There’s no question that manning should be the MVP. Look at how good the Denver team is. They have one of th best records. The Vikings are fighting to make the playoffs. Manning also wasn’t supposed to be able to play football or even throw a football ever again. Peterson was expected to come back at some point. Give Peterson come back player of the year and give manning the MVP.

  57. nelspetersen says: Dec 30, 2012 1:01 PM

    AP sees 9-10 ppl on the box on almost every play. He is a definite HOFer and if he continues to stay healthy will be considered one of the greatest backs of all time. This is a passing league which makes what AP has done even more remarkable. Also, Manning has solid team surrounding him on both offense and defense. AP deserves it.

  58. brokentreehousemusic says: Dec 30, 2012 1:14 PM

    So I guess Tom Brady is what, too obvious?

  59. atwatercrushesokoye says: Dec 30, 2012 1:21 PM

    Peterson has better numbers in losses than he does in wins…how can you be MVP if your best games come when your team loses?

    And the notion “Manning had 2 years to come back from his injuries” apples to oranges, it’s significantly harder to come back from a neck injury than it is a torn knee…Wes Welker has already done the same thing Peterson did and since Welker did his in week 17 and Peterson did his in week 16, he actually came back quicker.

  60. terranova22 says: Dec 30, 2012 1:26 PM

    Greymares your an idiot for saying the running back position is #22 on the field. Clearly you don’t follow AP. he deserves the MVP

  61. pack13queens0 says: Dec 30, 2012 4:36 PM

    And why isn’t A-Rod in the MVP talk? He’s the greatest athlete in sports!

  62. murf17 says: Dec 30, 2012 10:53 PM

    patsfan11 says:Dec 30, 2012 10:42 AM

    Can somebody explain me why Manning is ahead of Brady in that race?

    Top 5 D vs Bottom 5 D
    Manning has more Ints

    Maybe he should get OPTY, but IMO MVP is the player that makes the most difference on a team. Broncos were 8-8 with Tebow lol

    Where to start. More passing TD’s, approximately the same yards with less attempts, higher completion %, higher QB rating, 11 wins in a row. Yes the Broncos lost at NE early in the year, but Manning had better numbers then Brady did (look it up) and the Broncos were driving and Willis fumbled. Denver lost to Houston (3 seed) ATL (1 seed) and NE (2 seed). NE lost to AZ at home and Baltimore who Denver beat by 22 points in Baltimore. He has also increased Denver’s points per game 11 points from last year

  63. murf17 says: Dec 30, 2012 11:01 PM

    Manning had 2 years to recover from his injuries, while AP did what he did in less then a year. Also Denver had had a cake schedule, easy division plus they have only beat 1 playoff team (Cincy) and have lost to 3 top seeds in the Texans, Pats and Falcons. AP’s team was 3-13 last year. Denver was 8-8 and won a playoff game. AP’s injury has been called a Running Back killer, and he has come back better then ever, he has no QB to take off the pressure. Manning has a good running game and a really good defense. You put an average QB on that team and they still make the playoffs, you put an average RB on the Vikings they win 3 or 4 games this year. Thats why AP should get MVP. Its obvious

    His injuries? You mean the 4 surgeries on his neck where he could not throw a ball over 10 yards. Does everyone forget in the offseason that the whole talk was if he would even play again or if it was too risky because he could have been paralyzed. I love AP and I think he had a great year, but Chris Johnson also went over 2000 a few years ago and did not win MVP. Manning was released from where he spent 13 years working with players and coaches to a completely new system and they are tied for the best record in the NFL. All of there losses were in Sept/Oct when he was still recovering. Does anyone not think that Denver would beat HOU and NE now that they are in Denver. Finally check the numbers in his head to head with HOU and NE where he put up better numbers then Brady and Schaub.

  64. secretbonus1 says: Dec 31, 2012 1:16 AM

    Lol Chris Johnson! Saying CJ2k should get it then would be like saying Calvin Johnson should get it this year. The Titans self destructed that year. Okay, so not even considering the fact that Adrian runs with 8 and 9 in the box every carry or the fact that his per carry average is reduced by all his goal line carries. Adrian took a 3-13 team and made them go 10-6 due to his performances where as Chris Johnson took a 13-3 team in 2008 and then ran for 2000 yards and it went 8-8 and missed the playoffs,
    What’s more, Adrian still had a higher per carry average including his goal line carries. And over half of his yardage came AFTER contact, as rather than just get lucky and have OL create a hole and have the speed that any random fast back such as Michael Bennet could run through like CJ2k did, Adrian gets pressure behind the line and gets hit yet still runs people over, jukes them, runs through them with zero probowl OL.
    Over the last 8 games Adrian got 1400 yards, around the totals of the other top 5 RBs for a full 16 games!
    Marshawn lynch is incredibly valuable because he unlike Alfred Morris or Arian Foster is a pure runner and not a system back. The difference is a system back doesn’t force defense to put another defender inside the box because the kubiac/Shannahan system will pin you inside and create a huge opening and the back makes one cut on the outside and goes, or inside if you go outside. If the blocks are made correctly, it’s as simple as seeing open space and running untouched through it. With an extra defender, you create single coverage in the passing game which is why Russel Wilson finds it so easy to find success. true he is very good at buying time and making plays on the move, but is nothing.
    But Adrian does in 8 games 14/15ths of Marshawn Lynchs 16 game total with even more 8 and 9 man fronts. There is simply no one even remotely close.
    Rodgers did everything Manning did, except Mannings defense was dominant this year and last year, and Rodgers defense is terrible. Rodgers is in a division with 2 other 10-6 teams, manning is ithe worst division in football. DT with Tebow and Orton throwing him the ball put up good numbers, and Decker is developing nicely. The run game is average to above average in Denver which makes it easy to have balance and prevent defense from moving defenders out of the box unlike in GB where most of the year Rodgers put up his numbers with only 4-6 guys in the box and sometimes 7 but never 8 or 9.
    There are plenty of passing games you could plug into the MN offense and absolutely obliterate Mannings performance because of the 8 and 9 box defenders that Adrian creates. Well in reality, Adrian would see fewer 8 and 9 man fronts, but the elite QBs would see fewer 5 and 6 man fronts too.

    Brees
    Rodgers
    Ryan
    RG3
    Brady
    Romo
    Eli
    Luck
    (Of course Manning too)
    And a bunch of non elite guys that would do extremely well and look elite the way Russel Wilson has because of Lynch (freeman, Schaub, wilson, Cutler, etc)
    Adrian Peterson and the Vikings had a schedule that consisted of 2 AFC playoff opponents (texans,colts), the bears twice (10-6), Packers twice, 49ers and Seahawks and the Redskins. Not to mention the Rams and the Buccs.
    If you think Adrian isn’t MVP you are crazy!
    Runningbacks tend to have much shorter careers than QBs and even considering that, there are still plenty of GMs that would make Adrian Peterson the very first choice if they were starting a franchise.
    “Great” QBs is the norm now. Look at the rookie class and that’s just because more colleges are getting used to and using the pro style offenses. But now high schools are even starting them. Finding a good QB will be easy. Finding a RB that isn’t a system back requiring a bunch of really good OL to make it work that can keep defense honest is getting more and more difficult as the changing rules are extending the longevity of the QB position.
    Adrian is head and shoulders above everyone else to such a huge degree comparing him to an average NFL runner like McGahee would be like comparing Peyton Manning To Dan Orvloski and comparing Adrian to say Marshawn Lynch would be like comparing Peyton Manning to Josh Freeman. Adrian in a landslide if people have any common sense.

  65. militstrat54 says: Dec 31, 2012 4:37 AM

    Tired of the Manning bias. Was at ESPN earlier in the year and heard that they wanted Manning for MVP every year regardless of stats just because he is a great guy. Sorry, but that’s not the idea behind the MVP. Peterson has dragged his team into the playoffs with a QB that often passes for less yards than he runs for. Manning is with a team that made it to the playoffs last year and even beat the Steelers in their first round game with Tebow at QB. And this year the Broncos have a top 5 defense. Manning shouldn’t be getting extra points for the work his defense does, or because the guys at ESPN have a man crush on him. MVP is an individual award. The fact is…a QBs JOB is ball protection and scoring…that doesn’t even put Manning in the top two QBs. Both Brady and Rodgers have better TD/Turnover Ratios by a lot (ball protection) and Brady is flirting with breaking scoring records as he has these last 5 full years (scoring), 500+ points AGAIN, and is almost 100 point ahead of Manning. End result…better ball protection and better scoring by Brady, the only two real measures of a QB, yet media bias favors Manning. Who hasn’t heard every coach say…if we win the turnover battle we will win the game?….(thats what Brady does best and why he is the ONLY QB in NFL history to have more than 100 more victories than losses). I’ll say it again, Manning’s defense should not be a part of his MVP push, especially when you realize that Brady beat the Broncos top five defense while Manning lost to the Pats 30th ranked defense. And the quintessential measure of DYAR/DVOA which far outpaces QBR (put together by ESPN…and weights Mannings strong points at the expense of Rodger’s and Brady’s…ESPN fails to account for Manning’s fumbles when they are greater than his competitors and then fails to give credit to his competitors when they have more rushing TDs than him) has Brady ahead of Manning in DYAR by 300+ points (that’s nearly 20% higher) and nearly 5% points in DVOA. DYAR identifies the most valuable player over the entire year, while DVOA identifies the most valuable player per play. Brady CRUSHES Manning in both but the media bias has been criminal all year long. Like Manning if you will, its hard not to, even love the guy like ESPN has said outright, but don’t steal for the guy. The real race is between Peterson and Brady and Manning is the guy who is stealing the election with inside help from ESPN. Do we need a Congressional Investigation to straighten out sports like politics? Say it ain’t so!!!

  66. militstrat54 says: Dec 31, 2012 5:13 AM

    QBR lacks any adjustments for quality of completion/strength of schedule that DYAR and DVOA includes. And by the way, Brady just broke the NFL record for most first downs in a season. Consider the order of importance…
    Completion percentage
    Yards per attempt
    Total yards
    This is where Manning excels and are “personal stats”, then the really important areas where Brady excels…
    Total First Downs
    Total Turnovers (less is best)
    Total Points
    These are the things QBs need to excel at to win
    The actual wins are a results of being efficient (Brady) and not the mere accumulation of stats (Manning)
    Unfortunately the writers who vote have an agenda other than accuracy, something they praise Manning for, but it’s obviously not for them.
    Manning wins ecause he has a top five defense while Brady has been winning despite his bottom of the league defense.

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