Comments on: Cardinals fire G.M. Rod Graves, coach Ken Whisenhunt

By: azr8rsfan

azr8rsfan — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:57:53 +0000

Whiz’ firing only reinforces how desperate the dead birds were to overpay for corncob to keep the faux super bowl dreams alive.

Back to where they belong…forever cursed. The worst NFLTeam of all time based on win/loss ratio. The debacle in the desert continues.

By: melikefootball

melikefootball — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 01:53:39 +0000

To bad for whiz he had no support from owners.

By: badintent

badintent — Tue, 01 Jan 2013 01:08:34 +0000

The team is owned by the Bidwells. End of story.

By: mittywalter

mittywalter — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:03:56 +0000

Whisenhunt made personnel decisions. Don’t fool yourself into thinking it was Graves who chose to not pick a O-lineman in the top rounds of the draft the last 5 years. That is all Whis/Grimm.

If you’re supporting Whis here, it’s clear you don’t watch Cards games. He is a stubborn coach. Stubborn enough to not even let Leinart touch the field and go with … sigh … Derek Anderson of all people, and then continue to call plays as if he’s Warner. To pay so much for a QB in Kolb, but to choose Skelton instead.

If the Cardinals did keep him, all we’d hear is how they’re the same cheap ol’ Cards not willing to eat the 5.5 million owed. Look at the new coaching blood brought into the NFC West and it’s clear this is the right decision.

By: robocop6849

robocop6849 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:38:23 +0000

For anyone who think Whis is a good couch and his firing is a mistake, his record for the last three years was 18 wins and 30 losses. 2010- 5 wins and 11 losses, 2011- 8 wins and 8 losses, 2012- 5 wins and 11 losses. If that is what you insider a “good coach”, then I hope your team is acquires him. Good luck with that.

By: kev86

kev86 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:25:36 +0000

Weren’t the cards close to Peyton? Imagine?

By: azbirds

azbirds — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:17:44 +0000

Terrible decision.

First things first, who exactly are you going to get/coerce that is going to be better? It isn’t like the Cards have a legacy of winning to restore to greatness; its been a pit of despair and futility for all involved for decades. Good luck suckering an upgrade in coach or GM to the desert.

The decision to get Kolb seems to have been motivated to keep Fitz happy, which works considering he signed for the rest of his career shortly after the Kolb signing. Giving up DRC is no big loss, its questionable if he’s any better than any of the Cards #2 CBs.

They made an unsuccessful run at Peyton, but that likely would have been a disaster anyway with the O Line.

Instead of Peterson they could have drafted a gem like Locker, Ponder or Mallett. I’ll keep P3

Anderson was a debacle, no doubt, but who else was available at the time? McNabb & Hasslebeck, don’t recall others.

It isn’t like they’ve been throwing picks away. They have virtually every good player on the team (and some that have since left via FA): Fitzgerald, Wilson, Peterson, Washington, Acho, Dockett, Campbell, Washington, Dansby, Rolle, Antonio Smith, and Pace.

Weak, Bidwell.

By: ihatetheeffingjets

ihatetheeffingjets — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:17:34 +0000

“I wonder how inviting this job will be for a big name coach to pass up.”.

Yeah because working for the Bidwills is any coach’s dream job….

By: ihatetheeffingjets

ihatetheeffingjets — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:15:48 +0000

Shouldn’t the coach who lead the effing Cardinals (!) to the effing Super Bowl (!) have had a slightly longer leash? Pittsburgh doesn’t fire him in the same situation. New England doesn’t. The Giants don’t. I guess that’s why the Steelers, Patriots and Giants and the Steelers, Patriots and Giants. And the Cardinals are . . . . well.

By: bnwpnw

bnwpnw — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 22:15:24 +0000

Makes sense. The NFC West is looking to be BRUTAL the next couple years – except for the Cards

By: fordmandalay

fordmandalay — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:22:05 +0000

I’d like to remind fans of ‘The Whiz’ that HE made the decisions that Derek Anderson and John Skelton were the teams starting QBs at the beginning of 2 of the last 3 years. Whiz can’t recognize a good QB if one fell on him out of a tree.

By: mazblast

mazblast — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:36:30 +0000

The Cardinals have created a big problem for themselves here.

If they promote Horton to HC, they have to hire an offensive coordinator and build an offense almost from scratch, behind a HC who’s from the other side of the ball.

If they hire a strong offensive mind who can build a competent to good offense, that person may demand the right to hire his own DC, and they lose a quality cooridnator in Horton.

If they hire a lesser-known OC and tell him that Horton is his DC, period, it undermines the new coach and they may lose Horton anyway.

If they hire a retread, they may get both a failure and someone the fans won’t support, and Horton walks again.

Were I the one making the decision, I’d go after Bruce Arians. IMO he did a great job filling in for Coach Pagano with the Colts.

By: flipadelphia77777

flipadelphia77777 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:33:46 +0000

Whis sucked. Pick up Reid and reunite him with Kolb and they’ll be set

By: mazblast

mazblast — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:30:23 +0000

banky74,

Actually, the Cards had never been in the Super Bowl until their appearance there under Whisenhunt.

hor2012,

If you’re going to say a transplanted team belongs anywhere, it should be the town they were in the longest. In the Cardinals’ case, that would be Chicago–and given their performance there, it’s no wonder they left/were forced out.

By: realfootballfan

realfootballfan — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:15:33 +0000

The people making excuses for Whisenhunt are laughable. Who do you think made the personnel decisions there? If Lovie Smith deserved to get fired with no personnel involvement and winning seasons even with no playoff berths, what reason is there for Whisenhunt to have kept his job?

He did himself in because he should have brought in a personnel guru to help him, instead of trying to make those decisions on his own.

By: arson81

arson81 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:55:23 +0000

I guess Kevin Kolb is a” Coach Killer” too then huh?

I wonder how inviting this job will be for a big name coach to pass up. That is a really really good defense. I’m not a huge fan of the guy but I could see Gruden taking that gig and bringing in a veteran retread project at QB like he likes to do.

Better have a strong GM candidate if thats the case tho, Chucky will take you over the “fiscal cliff” faster than our government.

By: thehighhat

thehighhat — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:51:34 +0000

Thanks Kevin!!!

Love,
Ken & Rod

By: lionsplayoffs

lionsplayoffs — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:49:30 +0000

Man Cowher’s phone has to be ringing off the hook today. There have to be at least 5 teams begging to talk to him.

By: Gabbo

Gabbo — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:47:44 +0000

Kolb is an average QB and is ok enough. After all, the Cards were 4-1 in games he survived this year. His problem is that he’s brittle, so maybe having one of the worse NFL O-line isn’t going to help.

The fact Cards overpaid him isn’t his fault.

By: banvard316

banvard316 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:45:44 +0000

For everyone saying Whiz wasn’t the problem in AZ. Let’s remember that he had all final say on the roster and roster moves. He asked for Kolb and for some reason started Skelton over Kolb in the beginning of the season. He knew what he had at oline and decided it was good enough.

Graves was nothing but a Bidwill “YES” man and it was time for him to go. He was more of a talking head that didn’t really make any football decisions.

By: ajb3313

ajb3313 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:44:49 +0000

Kevin Kolb wasn’t the problem. He’s not very good, mind you, but he was at least serviceable when healthy. It was Skelton and Lindley that stunk up the joint, but even ahead of them it was the offensive line. To throw it all on Kolb seems awfully unfair to me.

By: mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports

mikebrownistheworstownerinprosports — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:37:14 +0000

Haley will be fired and Whisenhunt will go back to the Steelers. Mark it.

By: durno99

durno99 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:34:10 +0000

Harvin Webb and a first for Fitz…….lets get it done!

By: nananatman

nananatman — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:33:33 +0000

Put a line in front of Kolb for once, there aren’t any good QB’s in the draft so keep Kolb and Hoyer and build an offensive line.

By: banky74

banky74 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:28:08 +0000

Seems like a rather foolish decision to fire the only coach that’s ever took the Cards to the SB in the modern era.

Last time they were there was what? 1970?

The way this franchise is run, they probably won’t get back until 2070.

By: dmface

dmface — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:27:52 +0000

If you lose 9 stra8 games you should get fired.

By: justintuckrule

justintuckrule — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:16:50 +0000

In the modern NFL, a coach’s fate has as much to do with luck as it does with skill. Take for instance Mike Shanahan. If RGIII is a bust, Shanny would be in line with the rest of the casualties today. Does that make Shanny any less of a coach than Whiz? I say Whiz is better because he got the Cards to consistently overperform. On the other hand, the pre-RGIII Skins had equal talent than the Cards and were terrible for the better part of 15 years. Put RGIII on the Cards and that team probably wins 13 games behind that defense. Point is, can’t blame the coach all the time. Now, the Cards can go through another 5 year break-in period of a new coach/system.

By: rajbais

rajbais — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:03:09 +0000

My Prediction:

Andy Reid to the Cards!!!

He’ll have Kolb, the Valley Forge Military Academy (Philadelphia) alum Larry Fitzgerald as his Philly connections. He can bring in all the Cleveland firees, Juan Castillo, and keep Ray Horton.

Besides, who can Horton bring on for the offense if he’s the head coach.

By: mrplow3

mrplow3 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:02:28 +0000

Fire that stiff Haley and bring Whiz home to steel town.

Come on Ken, you know you miss that Iron City Beer!

By: silvernblackpa

silvernblackpa — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 18:56:02 +0000

Dear Reggie McKenzie: there’s your new offensive co-ordinator and possible new head coach if Dennis Allen flops again in 2013. Make the call.