Comments on: Report: Pat Shurmur, Tom Heckert fired in Cleveland

By: christophershearin

christophershearin — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:02:22 +0000

I really thought when Haslam purchased the browns the three ring circus was over………. Apparently not…. He just saw a cash cow waiting to be milked……Shurmer had to go, Heckert was the best thing to happen to the browns in a long time……. Look at his record….. Haden, Ward, Richardson, Gordon, Little, Robertson, Taylor, Sheard, Winn, Hughes, and those are just the impact players, not to mention all the other developmental picks…… Dont blame McCoy or Weeden on Heckert, we all know those were holmgrens projects………. Oh yea how quickly we forget holmgren brought in jake delhomme to save the franchise…………… There isnt much a GM can say when the Owners hand picked fill in says jump

By: gallogj

gallogj — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:52:37 +0000

Set the clock…3yrs and counting until they press the reset button again!

By: digitaldonnie

digitaldonnie — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:47:41 +0000

What I dont get is ppl saying Shumur and Heckert knew they were in an impossible situation coming in. No one knew the Browns were going to be sold. Im sure they thought they would have more than 2-3 years.

By: slammincamnewton

slammincamnewton — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:33:08 +0000

Because overpaying Nick Saban or Chip Kelly is clearly the solution. Weeden will probably get cut.

By: norcalwandering

norcalwandering — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:07:14 +0000

At least with an active owner this time change might be acceptable. We finally have an owner who actually plans to attend the NFL “owners” meetings, loves American football and is fully engaged with the team. No more throwing the keys to another Davis, Mangini, Holgrem, etc.

By: dawgpound13

dawgpound13 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:01:07 +0000

Granted there were a quite a few miscues and at times the play calling was atrocious, but Pat had the Browns fired up and ready to compete every week. You must admit when the Browns went on their winning streak, up until they lost to the Redskins without RG3, it felt like Browns could beat anyone and teams really didn’t want to see a young, hungry Browns team. I can understand the Shurmur firing, but I don’t agree with the Heckert firing. He’s done a great job of making the Browns relevant with young talent building through the draft. There’s no doubt in my mind that if the Browns could’ve stuck to the 5 year plan we would’ve been deep in the playoffs. I hate to see the Browns rebuild again, but hopefully know it all Banner knows what he’s doing. Hopefully 1 step back two steps forward. Keep Jauron, give Weeden another year, keep Thad Lewis, get rid of Colt, draft Milliner, sign a veteran receiver preferably Greg Jennings, give Trent the ball 20-30 times a game and don’t bring Lombardi back…unless Bill Belichick is coming with him.

By: electionconfidential

electionconfidential — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:59:07 +0000

This is a head coaching job to be taken seriously. The Browns aren’t quite as bad as their record makes them look and a good head coach along with the new owner might could have them in the playoffs pretty quickly.

Of course they have huge problems at the QB position. If the new owner and GM could pick up someone like Matt Flynn they’d be on their way.

Of course that’s a really big IF.

By: Sandra Lee's Cans

Sandra Lee's Cans — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:58:34 +0000

Pat Shurmur, in his desire to become a head coach in the NFL, took a job knowing he was being put in an impossible situation. He went to a franchise that was in total rebuilding mode and he had no experience being the man in charge. That said, the players played hard for him and he stuck to his guns in developing players he felt could, at some point, become serviceable, if not good, NFL players.

Inexperienced head coaches coaching inexperienced players is a recipe for disaster but as they learned together the light at the end of the tunnel became brighter. Shurmer will get another shot someday and he will be better the second time around.

I would have preferred the Browns stick with him and Tom Heckert for the long haul and I have strong concerns about Joe Banner and his motives. To me he seems like a bitter little man who now has total power and that scares the hell out of me.

Whatever, best of luck to Pat Shurmur and Tom Heckert, both classy guys.

By: berniesboys

berniesboys — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:57:28 +0000

Any Browns fan with half a brain and a decent memoryknow s that RGIII and Weeden we’re mistakes that HOLMGREN made and not Heckert. As per heckert’s post draft comments, he would not have taken the qb in the first round. As per Holmgren comments on the failure to acquire Griffin, HIS deal fell through, and he was jumped by the skins. Heckert is a fine GM in my opinion.

By: Economic Development Data Services, Inc.

Economic Development Data Services, Inc. — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:49:00 +0000

As a Brown’s fan, I am tired of the end of season revolving door in the front office. In my experience, it takes 2-3 years for a turn-around to be successful. The release of Coach Shurmur and GM Heckert was premature.

By: bringbackkosar

bringbackkosar — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:43:26 +0000

If they hadn’t whiffed on RG3 at the draft they might both still be employed. It’ll just be more sadness for awhile, not one marquee name is going to be interested in the Browns HC job because of the QB situation. Trent Richardson was a great consolation prize but a RB isn’t going to get you to the promised land in this league nowadays. Dilfer is the only ho-hum QB that I can think of in recent memory with the ring, and that’s because his team had arguably the best defense in history – and that hurts to say coming from a Browns fan! Cleveland will always be a 5-11 type team until we can get a quarterback.

By: buckeyeluvn

buckeyeluvn — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:37:11 +0000

Steeler fans, talk all the trash you want about the Browns. We’ve got a seat on the couch for you to watch the playoffs!

By: hail74

hail74 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:34:55 +0000

Didnt need to draft weeden in first rd, they only did because wright was gone. The browns offense just wouldnt attack deep. I understand they dont have the best WRs in the league but to have teams crowd the line to stop trent and not use play action off of that is rediculous.

By: searchingwithmygoodeyeclosed

searchingwithmygoodeyeclosed — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:32:37 +0000

John Gruden would be a great hire in Cleveland.

By: logicalvoicesays

logicalvoicesays — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:29:29 +0000

Meanwhile, RGIII and the Redskins host a playoff game on Sunday.

By: kupski

kupski — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:26:03 +0000

Hire these guys : Tom Clements, Green Bay Packers, Vic Fangio, San Francisco 49ers, Mike McCoy, Denver Broncos

By: orivar

orivar — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:22:52 +0000

Andy Reid’s firing just opened up the box.

By: gallogj

gallogj — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:22:44 +0000

It’s all the same Only the names will change Everyday It seems we’re wastin’ away.

By: pacodawg

pacodawg — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:21:56 +0000

Pat came into a terrible situation for sure. That being said, I saw nothing that that he did to help his team win on gameday. Taking a timeout in Colts territory only to punt on 4th down, Hodges then punts into the end zone, net 15 yards. The next week down 7 with 3 timeeouts left goes for it in his own territory. Unbelievable miscues. Weedon deserves another chance, I have no confidence in the coaching staff to make him better.

By: coonsqualler

coonsqualler — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:20:33 +0000

Can we please get it right this time? We are losing alot of fans with the continuing losing seasons!
Just Sayin’…Go Brownies!!

By: steelernationisthepinnacleofexistenceyouarenothing

steelernationisthepinnacleofexistenceyouarenothing — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:20:24 +0000

Just your average Cleveland procedure, don’t over-think it. It’ll be interesting to see their next failed hire.

By: mcmuskie79

mcmuskie79 — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:20:16 +0000

Surprised they waited till this morning to make the announcement. I figured it would’ve happened as soon as the game ended. Now hopefully Mr. Haslem will find a quality coach & this franchise can finally get turned around.

By: maybenextyearbrowns

maybenextyearbrowns — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:18:24 +0000

Hate to see anybody lose their job,but this was a no brainer. Good luck Pat elsewhere.

By: stilllovemybungles

stilllovemybungles — Mon, 31 Dec 2012 14:17:26 +0000

Not sure if this was the right move. Not a Browns fan, but They played hard for shurmur. I wish him luck else where.