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Vermeil told Reid that KC’s pros overcome lack of QB

VERMEIL HALL AP

Another man who made the trek from Philadelphia to Kansas City said he had a simple piece of advice for Andy Reid, when he was still thinking about the Chiefs job.

“Go,” former Eagles and Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said, via Randy Covitz of the Kansas City Star.

Vermeil said, prior to Reid agreeing to the deal earlier today, that he spoke with Reid regularly, and had nothing but positive things to say about his old town.

“He’s coached at the University of Missouri,” Vermeil said of Reid’s three-year stint as an assistant from 1989-91, “he’s been in middle America before and knows what the people are like. He knows how I feel about it. He’s been in that stadium. He kicked my rear . . .  when we were ahead 18-0 . . . and he knows how the fans are there, and how that Arrowhead Stadium is when it’s full.

“And he knows the great respect and admiration people in the NFL have for the Hunt family, so why not go? There are no negatives.”

Well, there are some negatives.

They did just go 2-14, and they don’t have a quarterback. But to the eternally positive Vermeil, that is but a speed bump.

“You can’t have everything,” Vermeil said. “I’d rather have a great owner and no quarterback than a quarterback and not a great owner. They have a couple of quarterbacks [Matt Cassel and Brady Quinn] who have played well before, and maybe they’ll play well again. Sometimes schemes fit quarterbacks better than other schemes.

“This year took a guy out of college, for criminy sakes, [Nick Foles], a third-round draft choice, and he plays pretty darn well.”

Of course, Reid probably has words stronger than “criminy” when he thought about the Chiefs depth chart at the most important position.

And even if he doesn’t use the first pick in the draft on a quarterback, it’s the first thing he has to fix.

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32 Responses to “Vermeil told Reid that KC’s pros overcome lack of QB”
  1. logicalvoicesays says: Jan 4, 2013 3:44 PM

    Reid told Vermeil to dry his tears and pass him the BBQ sauce.

  2. omegalh says: Jan 4, 2013 3:50 PM

    Football has a serious flaw in the the QB rules a franchizes success. Its hard to watch year in and year out when you know only the best QBs win.

  3. realitypolice says: Jan 4, 2013 3:53 PM

    At what point did he break down in tears?

  4. dalucks says: Jan 4, 2013 3:56 PM

    Andy Reid should trade for Matt Schaub. Schaub will look good in a Chiefs uniform and he can help the Chiefs win 8 to 10 games next season against the last place schedule. He will be a good veteran stop gap QB for 1 to 2 years while your 1st round rookie develops his skills. Matt Schaub added to the Chiefs offense and defense would make them the 2nd best team in the AFC West with a possibility for the playoffs. Andy Reid would look like a genius.
    The Chiefs should trade for Matt Schaub, WR Kevin Walter and/or Devier Posey, OG Antionne Caldwell and/or OT Rashard Bulter in exchange for trading picks in the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th rounds in 2013 and switch picks in the 2nd and 4th round in 2014.
    That would be a great trade for both teams and both teams would be playoff contenders next season with this trade.

  5. slemmebo says: Jan 4, 2013 3:59 PM

    ….and then he cried…

  6. mazblast says: Jan 4, 2013 4:01 PM

    Lordy, I wish I had Dick Vermeil’s outlook on just about anything. The late, not great Leonard Tose may have been wrong on just about everything in his time as Iggles owner, but hiring that man away from UCLA was one great move.

  7. jbholcom says: Jan 4, 2013 4:05 PM

    When Vermeil came to KC he didn’t have a qb either. He went out and found Trent Green. In Vermeils short stint in KC, it worked out fairly well anyway.

  8. ttommytom says: Jan 4, 2013 4:10 PM

    I’m sure he can get Kolb for some KC BBQ. Not sure if Reid would give up that much, though…

  9. boyshole25 says: Jan 4, 2013 4:12 PM

    And then vermeil cried uncontrollably when he was asked if he’d ever seen the movie “princess bride”

  10. ddjesus says: Jan 4, 2013 4:16 PM

    I love Vermeil. Wish I had been around 10, 15 years earlier so I could’ve seen his best years.

  11. bobbyhoying says: Jan 4, 2013 4:30 PM

    Vermeil was the first decent coach in many years in Philly.

  12. backindasaddle says: Jan 4, 2013 4:40 PM

    I know one thing…the fans in KC will a lot nicer than those animals in Philadelphia.

  13. power808 says: Jan 4, 2013 4:43 PM

    Guarantee Vick is heading to the Chiefs after the Eagles cut him. Vicks dream come true… to continue to play for Reid and to return to his old nearby stomping ground
    Leavenworth where he was king of the court yard games.

  14. nathanbetz91 says: Jan 4, 2013 4:49 PM

    I’m tired of hearing how kc doesn’t have a quarterback, they have Ricki Stanzi who they just refused to use, and any quarterback is gonna look bad with the receivers they have in Kansas city. Dwayne Bowe is their best one and last I heard he wants out really bad.

  15. fitnesstrainer6788 says: Jan 4, 2013 4:54 PM

    Yep….soooooo many pros that overcome a lack of a QB…

    Last I checked, those “pros” didn’t overcome squat!

    See Last in the League…. 1st overall draft pick..

    Yep…those are some pro’s alright.

  16. realitypolice says: Jan 4, 2013 4:56 PM

    Yes, it’s true. Despite his incredible pre-season performances and stellar practice tape, the Chiefs stubbornly REFUSED to put in future hall of famer Ricki Stanzi.

  17. backindasaddle says: Jan 4, 2013 4:57 PM

    dalucks says:
    Jan 4, 2013 3:56 PM
    Andy Reid should trade for Matt Schaub. Schaub will look good in a Chiefs uniform and he can help the Chiefs win 8 to 10 games next season against the last place schedule. He will be a good veteran stop gap QB for 1 to 2 years while your 1st round rookie develops his skills. Matt Schaub added to the Chiefs offense and defense would make them the 2nd best team in the AFC West with a possibility for the playoffs. Andy Reid would look like a genius.
    The Chiefs should trade for Matt Schaub, WR Kevin Walter and/or Devier Posey, OG Antionne Caldwell and/or OT Rashard Bulter in exchange for trading picks in the 1st, 3rd, 4th and 6th rounds in 2013 and switch picks in the 2nd and 4th round in 2014.
    That would be a great trade for both teams and both teams would be playoff contenders next season with this trade.
    ——————————–

    Got it all figured out? What makes you think that Houston will just give you their best and proven QB?…is it that switch picks thingy there in 2014 that’ll convince them??? Boy, how clever…I wished I could have come up with this.

  18. norcalmafia says: Jan 4, 2013 5:20 PM

    This has Alex Smith written all over it..he would do well in KC with that solid running game and Bowe…

  19. 49erdynasty says: Jan 4, 2013 5:21 PM

    Vermiel probably also told him to go coach in football’s weakest division and easiest strength of schedule next year.

  20. stoney18 says: Jan 4, 2013 5:34 PM

    Cassel went 11-5 for the Patriots and would have won a few more except for some butter-fingered receiver drops. Same guy … just doesn’t have the supporting cast in KC. Some good hogs up front and a decent OC/QB guy and the current group will be OK.

  21. coltzfan166 says: Jan 4, 2013 5:35 PM

    KC will draft Geno Smith! Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if McNabb ends up in KC as a backup, but Geno will become the franchise QB for KC.

  22. EJ says: Jan 4, 2013 5:39 PM

    It has been proven that teams with no Franchise Quarterback can still succeed and win a super bowl trophy. My point is, that not every position has to have the most dominant, the fastest or the smartest players. The average Joe can get the job done with a good team around him. If I were GM in K.C., I’d take the best player available before reaching for a QB in the upcoming Draft.
    See if Matt Cassel or Brady Quinn can get the job done with a different scheme, you never know.

  23. dalucks says: Jan 4, 2013 6:09 PM

    @backindasaddle

    Matt Schaub has maxed out in Houston. He cannot take the Texans to the Super Bowl and if he loses to the Bengals on Saturday then the fan base will want TJ Yates to be the quarterback since he won a playoff game last season.
    The Texans will not fire Gary Kubiak but they will strip him of the playcalling duties and give the playcalling duties to new OC Norv Turner.
    Matt Schaub would lead the Chiefs to an 8-8 or 10-6 record playing against the last place schedule. Schaub would be a better option for Kansas City instead of Michael Vick, Alex Smith or Matt Flynn.
    My trade still gives the Chiefs the ability to draft their QB of the future.

  24. ccooww says: Jan 4, 2013 7:01 PM

    Sorry Andy but Jim Johnson old DC and Mc Nabb are long gone. These two guys were responsible for what success you enjoyed.

  25. weaselpuppy says: Jan 4, 2013 7:50 PM

    If Vick has anything left, he’d be a great fit for a couple years while they draft a successor in rd 2 …Alex Smith smells a lot like Matt Cassel, but he’d be an upgrade. Ish. I just like the idea of trying to match the speed of Vick Charles Breaston and McCluster in a wide open offense…

    I for sure see Breaston and McCluster’s roles increased in slot and backfield duties, and maybe Baldwin can do something…but they have to get an outside WR. Jennings perhaps?

    Draftwise, it’s not sexy but Joeckel or a trade down to grab a DE (Ty Jackson’s $14m cap number isn’t staying) for rd 1. QB rd 2, DE/OT rd 3 BPA on the line and CB after…

  26. 49erstim says: Jan 4, 2013 8:32 PM

    KC is a great place to live. The fanbase is raucous and alive and they ROCK Arrowhead. That roster isn’t as far away as people think. Trade for a Alex Smith (HATE to see him go) or maybe take a look at Fitzpatrick if/when he is cut. Maybe he can salvage Cassel, Quinn or Stanzi.

  27. footballchic777 says: Jan 4, 2013 9:10 PM

    I believe Matt Cassell has what it takes to lead this team. You put more than Jamaal Charles and Dwayne Bowe in there to play with him and you will find success. He had a great record coming in for Brady in New England, and didn’t he lead KC to a playoff berth? Give the guy someone who is gonna stand behind him 100% and invest in the team around him, and you will see the best of Cassell. Unlike Brady Quinn who is now unproven with 3 different teams!

  28. docboss says: Jan 4, 2013 10:52 PM

    If “class” was a requirement of HOF, Vermeil would be “in” on the first vote. This guy should be in charge of the Philadephia coach/gm search committee. Coach Vermeil, I toast your style with a glass of your Cab Franc. Good luck Andy. KC is now my favorite AFC team. Hope its Rams/Chiefs in the 2014 Superbowl.

  29. ponder7vikings says: Jan 5, 2013 12:11 AM

    trade the number 1 pick cause this draft class sucks.

    Landry Jones in 2nd round.

    Cut Quinn and Cassel.

    Jamal Charles won’t get the ball.

  30. ponder7vikings says: Jan 5, 2013 12:15 AM

    he based his decision on food.

  31. joetoronto says: Jan 5, 2013 6:36 AM

    There’s no more overcoming the lack of a QB, those days are long gone.

  32. johngar16 says: Jan 5, 2013 4:25 PM

    Cassell must go!

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